C.MontgomeryPunk
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Speaking to WM, pwtorch is saying that there is plans to give Bret Hart the title at WM! With this being leaked, plans could change however the plan
is Hart/Cena vs Batista/McMahon with whoever getting the pin will get the title.
It could go something like this -
With Batista being a SD! star he could give the title to Vince by having him pin Hart for the ultimate insult. Batista takes out Hart and tags in
Vince who does some postturing before going for a pin - however Bret kicks out. Cena takes out Batista by brawling him at ringside, leaving Vince and
Bret, with Bret getting Vince in the Sharpshooter and Vince tapping out to give Hart the title.
The next night on Raw, Hart would give up the title, something he couldn't do all those years ago - give his last farewell speech and leave once
and for all.
I hope they do go this direction and don't change it because it was leaked. Even if everybody knows it's coming it still would make a
great ending.
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jefft221
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If Sheamus doesn't somehow get the title back before WM, then instead of putting HHH into the UT/HBK match they could possibly put HHH into a
hair vs. hair match with Punk... since they had a mini-feud upto and at the Rumble. Or maybe do a tag team match with HHH/Dibiase vs. Orton/Rhodes?
Long shot, but maybe most interesting: forget about Batista being Vince's muscle and have Vince tag with HHH against Bret & Cena
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hail2thesteve
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I think the decision to put the title back on Cena was a swerve for a swerve's sake because by all accounts, Triple H-Sheamus was going to be
for the title (and lord knows that match needs the belt to be important as opposed to Batista-Cena which would be a big match no matter what).
Thankfully, I'm glad they decided to swerve us on the Raw chamber match rather than Smackdown.
Even though I enjoyed this PPV, something was missing - not sure if it's because it's the third year in a row where we've gotten a
double Elimination Chamber line-up or because we had another hot-shot belt change (which was kind of the m.o. back in late 2008/early 2009) or a
combination of both.
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 04:24 PM |
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I don't know what's going to happen with HHH. I'm not sure I'm a fan of putting him in the HBK vs Undertaker match, but
should Taker win that would be his biggest given the in front of and behind the camera power of HBK and HHH.
What about HHH as referee in the Cena/Hart vs Batista/McMahon match? Would that be over-booking/overkill? Would HHH need a match on the PPV?
Edge vs Jericho vs HHH?
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deshorta
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 05:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jefft221
If Sheamus doesn't somehow get the title back before WM, then instead of putting HHH into the UT/HBK match they could possibly put HHH into a
hair vs. hair match with Punk... since they had a mini-feud upto and at the Rumble. Or maybe do a tag team match with HHH/Dibiase vs. Orton/Rhodes?
Long shot, but maybe most interesting: forget about Batista being Vince's muscle and have Vince tag with HHH against Bret & Cena
I'm utterly convinced we'll see the title back on Sheamus or HHH in time for their match at WM. The Vince/Bret match doesn't need
the belt, but Bret needs to have some sort of recent revenge. Costing Bats the title would kill two birds with one stone.
Saying that though, my EC predictions were utter turd.
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williamssl
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 05:54 PM |
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While I don't like it, Bats/Cena with the title on the line is the "close the show" finale type thing that I'm sure WWE is looking
for.
Absent the title, not sure that's the headliner.
Vince/Bret if it is happening surely ain't.
I don't know that Edge/Jericho would be either - just doesn't feel like a WM headliner (albeit a good match and something I am very
interested in seeing).
And HBK/Taker 2...well...it wasn't the headliner last year so why this year?
And Trips/Sheamus for the title...same thing.
I realize I'm being completely subjective and not offering much beside "this feels like x / this doesn't feel like x", but out of
everything there, Cena/Bats for the title has a very "close the show" ring to it.
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bbty23
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 06:13 PM |
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I'm not a John Cena hater, but my God was he terrible last night. The announcers weren't much better. He was in the chamber for less than
10 minutes, took a few moves from Orton, got a break, then took a few moves from Sheamus before eliminating Triple H to win the title. Mcmahon
announces the Batista match and suddenly, Cena can barely get up, is on rubber legs, and completely gassed. The worst part was after the defeat, on
the mat, writhing in pain and...desperately reaching for the wrestlemania sign??? Terrible.
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LuckyLopez
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 06:28 PM |
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In fairness, that's really not on Cena. Or even the announcers. That's the absurd booking that tells Cena to act like he's dead
when he's wrestled a fairly mundane match and tells the announcers to sell that he's been through a war when he spent most of the match
standing around.
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gobbledygooker
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 06:43 PM |
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Just watched footage of the Undertaker get scorched on his way to the ring and holy crap, if that guy didn't have the biggest balls in wrestling
before, that just solidified it. I couldn't imagine something like that happening and then having the luxury of receiving medical treatment
right after it. If it was, in fact, as bad as it looked...the fact that he wrestled a match right after it happened is unbelievable. Much more due
to the fact that he had to spend a decent amount of time standing in a pod and hoping to hell that he wasn't seriously burned.
Originally posted by punkerhardcore -
"Seriously, Rock Band > Guitar Hero. Guitar Hero is like the cute girl who makes out with you for the first time, which is awesome because it's
new and exciting. Then Rock Band comes along and is like the chick who blows you your junior year of high school... and then that first girl just
doesn't look quite so fun anymore."
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The Riot Act
Hot, Spicy, ICHIBAN!!! 
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 07:14 PM |
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For those curious to see the pyro incident:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6V6LrrCz3Q
Man, Taker has had some bad luck with pyro in his career, hasn't he?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAktqHeVjAY
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LuckyLopez
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That is fucking horrifying and I in no way mean to make light of it, but at the end of that video once Taker has ditched the coat and gotten clear of
the pyro you see him take that second to stop, take a deep breath, and give the universal sign of "Wow, holy shit, I can't believe that just
happened" that most men have done at one time or another after a close call with fire, electricity, power tools, booze, guns, knives, or cars.
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The Riot Act
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Indeed it is (horrifying, I mean). I don't blame him for being so reportedly upset after the show.
On a lighter note, dipshit Michael Cole has a Scooby Doo moment at 0:38:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCLGXzyEJh0
[Edited on 2-22-2010 by The Riot Act]
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Martman
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 07:43 PM |
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Cena also went into the chamber last. My theory was that they were having him wrestle as little as possible because of his neck/back injuries. I
mean, they certainly don't want to be without him again for another X number of months, so best to take it easy on him.
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DKBroiler
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 07:48 PM |
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A few things...
1) Got the show and I don't think it was as bad as it sounds. Frankly, it seemed like a 3 star show with simply a horrible crowd. If the crowd
were hotter I could easily see this one in the 3.5 area, but they brought negative heat to the show. My overall score would probably end up as a 2.5
as a result.
2) The SD Chamber was a 4 star PPV main event if you are into those things. That alone makes me not regret this purchase. Jericho's chicken
shittery was gold.
3) To avoid the same time shift error I had during the TNA PPV, I fast forwarded through 10 minutes of the show which I deemed useless. And yes, that
part was the Undertaker's entrance. I missed every bit of it. In retrospect... wow... he is a beast.
Overall product ended up being kind of mediocre, but the apathetic crowd really, REALLY hurt this one.
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SeanSmythe
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 07:56 PM |
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To be fair Taker is lucky he does come to the ring with the coat, imagine Kane who is basically topless not having that luxury of a barrier between
skin and fire (it may not be much but its something)
As for Jericho getting in the pod twice, best moment of the night.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste
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deshorta
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 08:13 PM |
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A blonde woman wasn't spotted in the pyrotechnics truck before the show, was she?
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Biff_Manly
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 08:20 PM |
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The coat could be a two edged sword. It might protect you from some of the burning but it could also take away a second or two of "holy crap I am
burning" feeling and once you clear the pyro you still have a flaming coat on your back.
Glad that Taker is mostly OK. I would really like to see Taker/Shawn 2 at WM. I could see Triple H as a guest referee of some sort. Him and HBK being
in rocky straits and no love loss for Taker could lead HHH to being an enforcer type ref, beefing with each guy, giving them time to rest.
If the match was a 3 way dance I think that could work too. I think Taker standing tall in what could be his last WM would be the great iconic image
the WWE is always looking for. If it was the last match of the night you get the up ending, especially if the three guys pull out the stops and make
it a brutal match with lots of close falls.
"Walter: I can solve everything by making this gramophone have sex with time."
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gobbledygooker
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I hadn't really thought of HHH-HBK-Taker in a three-way dance but if they could even come close to the awesomeness that was HHH-HBK-Benoit from
Wrestlemania XX, fuck...that would be sweet.
EDIT - As a lover of all things related to Chris Jericho chicken-shittery, man it sounds like he took it to a new level with running back into the pod
to avoid the Taker. Seeing that alone would've almost been worth the price of ordering it.
[Edited on 2-22-2010 by gobbledygooker]
Originally posted by punkerhardcore -
"Seriously, Rock Band > Guitar Hero. Guitar Hero is like the cute girl who makes out with you for the first time, which is awesome because it's
new and exciting. Then Rock Band comes along and is like the chick who blows you your junior year of high school... and then that first girl just
doesn't look quite so fun anymore."
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TomS
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What got me was Taker using John Morrison to batter the pod door down to get at Jericho. I was laughing as it was, but that was just the icing on the
cake :-D
Also - I think Cena should give up taking part in the Elimination Chamber. Even when if he wins he gets screwed out of the title - first Edge and now
Batista!
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gobbledygooker
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 09:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by TomS
Also - I think Cena should give up taking part in the Elimination Chamber. Even when if he wins he gets screwed out of the title - first Edge and now
Batista!
I mentioned that exact fact to Goon last night when we were discussing results. I said that, when Vince came out with Batista, it should've cut
to a close up on Cena who would've been mouthing the words "Not again!" right before eating a Spear from Batista and losing the title.
Originally posted by punkerhardcore -
"Seriously, Rock Band > Guitar Hero. Guitar Hero is like the cute girl who makes out with you for the first time, which is awesome because it's
new and exciting. Then Rock Band comes along and is like the chick who blows you your junior year of high school... and then that first girl just
doesn't look quite so fun anymore."
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S Kid J E T S 48
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Thought it was a pretty average show bookended with some fun matches. We got one result we all knew was coming, and another that was the typical
Elimination Chamber-type swerve we've gotten plenty of before.
I have a bit of a different perspective on the Sheamus-No-Title situation. On one hand, the Cena/Batista match really didn't need a title
attached to it. But in terms of a championship situation, HHH v. Sheamus for the title is much more of an obvious conclusion than Cena/Batista, which
is didn't need the belt to have the only conclusion they are going to have. The less obvious conclusion that the former match could have is if
no belt is on the line. Even with it being Wrestlemania and all, if HHH were serious about pushing his protege Sheamus to new levels, either pulling
out a less pressureous 20 min match at Mania, or actually letting him beat him in the biggest PPV of the year would be a huge boon for Sheamus,
especially after they didn't allow him to eliminate neither HHH nor Cena in the Chamber. It could also set up Sheamus' first real lengthy
feud in the WWE and allow HHH to get his heat back at the Extreme Rules PPV the month after, while allowing Sheamus to forever have the "I beat HHH
at Wrestlemania" claim to bring up like others bring up their accomplishments time to time. Something that could never happen if Sheamus is champion
at Wrestlemania.
On the other hand, I'm too lazy to look and see who said it, but someone had the idea that HHH would come back and get a title match tonight and
take the belt back for his feud thanks to Cena or something. I guess if they had Sheamus invoke his rematch clause (which I fully expect them to
forget about), they would be able to do something like that.
Back to the PPV, it was rather meaningless otherwise. I liked this MVP/Miz encounter better than others they have had, but the match that made the
most sense was ShowMiz v. Team Red Jumpsuit....of course...they could be hoping to use that as the tag match at Wrestlemania.
And speaking of stretching to Wrestlemania, I'm guessing that is their explanation for Maryse/Gail being postponed. Which is dumb. Because
unless theyre finding some past star to come back and challenge for that particular title, the only women's feud with any heat is Beth v.
Mickie, and that should be the only diva match on the card.
Looking forward...I was away this week and must have missed the news that the new PPV on the schedule was MitB...which I believe to be one of the
worst ideas ever presented. It has become such a staple of Wrestlemania, that it hurts to lose it, not to mention, the people left without matches at
Wrestlemania would be quite perfect for this match. Taking into account a Punk/Rey match, we still have
Kofi/Morrison/Christian/Shelton/McIntyre/Zeek or Kane as the powerhouse...Bourne/Carlito/Primo/Kidd/Rhodes etc to round out the rest of the bill, and
all people they might have trouble booking otherwise. Oh well. I guess they could always do Christian v. Zeek and Morrison v. McIntyre ro something
if they needed to get them in...but I'd be lost to find Kofi a spot in that case. Still, at least the card going into Mania is while sort of
obvious, a lot of the matches we were hoping would wind up there.
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theflammablemanimal
Man of a Thousand Holds
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| posted on 2-22-2010 at 11:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Martman
My theory was that they were having him wrestle as little as possible because of his neck/back injuries. I mean, they certainly don't want to
be without him again for another X number of months, so best to take it easy on him.
Is he really injured? Shocking how a guy who was put on the shelf by a Batista bomb might somehow be injured when Batista-bombed onto steel stairs.
What a mystery.
By the way, not too pick too much on The Rick, but I don't see any logic holes in Batista coming out last night. Sure, it's an AMAZING
coincidence that that Cena was champ at the time, but it makes perfect sense that Vince said kill Bret and get a shot at the EC winner of choice.
Glad I didn't get this PPV as it sounds pretty disappointing from an action perspective, which is what I was hoping for with Kofi and the SD
participants.
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LuckyLopez
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Yeah, it makes perfect sense if you take it as "Vince agreeing to give Batista the easy win if he takes out Bret." Batista took out Bret and it had
nothing to do with Cena until Cena got himself involved. Batista then walks away from the Elimination Challenger, tells Cena to just walk away and
forget him, and acts in secrecy and confidence. Turns out that for weeks Batista's known that Vince would give him a title shot immediately
after the Chamber match and the easy win, which is why he saw no need to compete in qualifiers or fight anyone he didn't have to. He was
focused on this. Cena is just a happy coincidence.
Of course if you look at it as Batista vs Cena setup and a continuation of their stuff since Batista dropped him on the ring steps then you have to
suspend a lot of disbelief to accept that it just worked out that Cena was champ. But I do think that was the story. Had Sheamus or HHH won then
Vince would have pulled the same stunt. Vince wasn't out to get Cena and Batista had nothing personal against him, it was just about the belt.
Of course Batista and Vince are free to contradict me to tonight and make it illogical if they wish.
EDIT: I would say the show was pretty much exactly what you could have reasonably expected. Sheamus never had a chance in hell of retaining and
anyone who thought he would pin HHH, Orton, or Cena was probably crazy given the last 3 months. Match was fine on paper was pretty by the numbers RAW
booking. SD chamber was much better as the talent was more interesting and did their things the way they do it well, all pretty predictable right
down to the HBK ending but also entertaining enough. And then everything between it was a ton of useless filler because WWE put no interest in
booking anything beyond the Chambers.
Pretty much the definition of lazy booking but the performers did their jobs so if that's enough for you, there you go.
[Edited on 2-23-2010 by LuckyLopez]
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Martman
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| posted on 2-23-2010 at 02:32 AM |
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Is he really injured?
I thought I read somewhere that he was having neck or back issues again? But that could easily have been someone else, since I remember reading about
Alex Shelley having that too.....
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theflammablemanimal
Man of a Thousand Holds
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| posted on 2-23-2010 at 03:55 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Martman
But that could easily have been someone else, since I remember reading about Alex Shelley having that too.....
Maybe that's why MCMG are almost never on TV! Seriously though, I think MCMG just accepted a ROH booking in the not-so-distant future so
hopefully he's fine.
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