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posted on 5-12-2010 at 04:59 AM |
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20 Roster Spots - who do you want?
Frustrated over the WWE's horrible product lately - the recent 'draft' got me thinking - in a perfect world - what 20 stars would be
on my show - Doesn't matter what company they work for, just looking for your top 20
Your criteria is up to you (could have 20 Divas/Knockouts or the 20 best 'workers' around today - your choice)
Here's my list
Jericho
Miz
Morrison
Edge
Bryan Danielson
Punk
Mysterio
Christian
Big Show
Swagger
Undertaker
AJ Styles
Pope
Samoa Joe
Morgan
Hernandez
Jeff Hardy
RVD
Sting
Flair
RAW - 4
SD - 6
NXT - 1
TNA - 9
Sting & Taker were probably the last 2 to make the list (partly because I've been wanting to see these 2 in a match for the last 15 years) -
I'm curious to see who everyone would pick -
For me No Cena, Batista, Sheamus, Orton, or HHH - never really been a huge mark for these 'main eventers', and cause I absolutely hate
what RAW is doing with their top tier right now - absolutley no intrigue at all - BORING!!!
Edge is on the list, but that's based a lot on past performance
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1 CM Punk -- In my mind, the top "total package" working right now.
2 Mike Knox -- An underrated big man with one Hell of an upside if given the chance.
3 Alex Shelley -- He's got the 'it' factor, and could be the next Chris Jericho
4 Colt Cabana -- I'm just a sucker for his work.
5 William Regal -- Great for training new wrestlers, and I think he and Cabana could do some wonderful things together.
6 R-Truth -- He's gotten over in both TNA and WWE, can go in the ring, and has charisma.
7 The Pope -- Has really come into his own in TNA.
8 Mr. Anderson -- If he can get his career on track, and if TNA expands or WWE picks him back up, he could be big.
9 Daniel Bryan -- For his size, one of the greatest all-around performers.
10 Samoa Joe -- Gets fans behind him based on ass-kicking alone. Gives credibility and believability to any match he's in.
11 Daniels -- Never got the break he really needed in TNA.
12 Matt Morgan -- Another great big man.
13 Kurt Angle -- Not at his peak any more, but can still bring it. Although I'll admit a preference for Three Is era Kurt angle.
14 Awesome Kong -- Get a decent face, and you can build an entire women's division around her.
15 Daffney -- I love Daffney. Simple as that.
16 Michelle McCool -- She's really come into her as the definitive bitchy heel, and I think she'd serve as a good alternative to Kong on
the heel side.
17 Mickie James -- Until her release, Mickie was probably the best face working in the Diva division.
18 Sarita -- We haven't seen much of her in TNA lately, but I've seen some of her CMLL work and I think she'd be a good complement
to a woman's division.
19 Chris Jericho -- Chris almost didn't make it onto the list simply because I'm not sure I'd want to have both him and Shelley on a
20 man roster. But ultimately, I think current Jericho is different enough, and he'd do well as a top level heel.
20 Kane -- I figured this fantasy draft needed more Kane.
Honourable mentions to:
Wade Barrett (good size, good upside); Delirious (would work well with younger fans but can still actually wrestle); Jay Lethal (who would probably
benefit from being around more veterans than I put on my list.)
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1. Edge
2. CM Punk
3. Matt Morgan
4. Kurt Angle
5. Ken Anderson
6. AJ Styles
7. Randy Orton
8. John Cena
9. HHH
10. Drew McIntyre (This guy is the future HHH. I guaran-damn-tee it.)
11. Miz
12. Big Show
13. Jeff Hardy
14. Chris Jericho
15. Kong
16. Velvet Sky
17. ODB
18. Melina
And because I really don't feel like separating tag teams.
19. MCMG
20. Hart Dynasty
[Edited on 5-12-2010 by Wickedfrost]
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FistHiccups
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1. Triple H
2. CM Punk
3. Edge
4. Randy Orton
5. Undertaker
6. Rey Mysterio
7. Jeff Hardy
8. The Pope
9. Santino Marella
10. Sheamus
11. Kofi Kingston
12. The Miz
13. Big Show
14. Cody Rhodes
15. Ted DiBiase
16. Kevin Nash
17. Brian Kendrick
18. Maryse
19. The Glamazon
20. Velvet Sky
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I'm going to take a different approach to this really good question since if I were to just pick 20 wrestlers that I want to see no one would
ever watch the show (starring Regal, Tarver, Carlito, Lethal, and Santino as World Champion!!!) and there is about a 14% chance that the internet
would collapse onto itself by being filled with "Reasons to Murder DK" websites. So instead I will choose 20 wrestlers that I will create not the
best show, or even my favorite show, but the highest rated show.
And right from the start you will end up finding that there will be an astounding lack of wrestling on this show. Also, I will use only people on the
current Raw, SD, NXT or TNA rosters so, for example, HBK, Foley, Stone Cold, Rock, and The Gobbledygooker would be unavailable but Ric Flair, Hulk
Hogan, John Cena, HHH, and The Dudebusters would be.
Also, if I were put in this position I would demand that it be on Raw and Raw only. It's the only show where you could put on a 2 hour Mae
Young vs Great Khali Iron Man-Hell In A Cell-Dog Kennel-Bikini Match and still recieve no worse then a 3.0 TV rating. Impact, for example, could put
on a match involving Kurt Angle, AJ Styles, Jesus, Aquaman, President Obama and Bigfoot and still not scratch a 2.0.
I'm going to do my best to also split the faces and heels in half, however I think that the entire concept of everyone either being one or the
other is kind of outdated. Honestly, I have a feeling that if I did my favorite show it would end up being all heels, but, once again, I'm
going for ratings here.
With that said...
1) Hulk Hogan: Sorry had to do it. Has he bastardized much of TNA? Sure. Is he still the biggest name in all of wrestling? Yup.
2) Vince McMahon: He, along with Hogan are the 2 most important people in prowrestling over the last 30 years and probably ever. As long as he
isn't dominating the screen (It's my show damnit!) he is a really usefull heel.
3) Ric Flair: You cannot have Hogan without him and since he is making it his life long dream to be the first person to die in the ring while on live
TV this decade, I may as well use him for the automatic 7.5 rating the week after he does.
4) John Cena: Children love him and buy tons of his shit. Children also watch an assload of TV.
5) Randy Orton: I hate this sssssselection but it'ssssssssssss a necesssssssssary evil. Also, fuck snakes.
6) HHH: I think he has 981 lifetime WWE Championships. It's about eyeballs people, not step over toe holds.
7) Batista: SPOT LIGHT PLEASE!
8) Big Show: You can't teach big and he has been a main eventer for over a decade. Also, he seems to enjoy losing and someone needs to do the
job on this roster.
9) The Undertaker: Anyone who doesn't include him probably thinks they are the smartest poker player at the table and then wonders why they have
no money left. One caveat however, no SpookyTaker allowed. He must bring his bike.
10) Edge: On this day I see clearly that Edge may be the most talented guy on this list.
11) Kurt Angle: He is still the best pro wrestler in the world especially since HBK is now retired.
12) CM Punk: When you spend a year telling people that they shouldn't do drugs, smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol and you get booed for it, you
clearly are doing something right.
13) Chris Jericho: He could break both legs, lose an arm to a landmine, and get layrngitus and I would still tune in just to watch him make faces. I
would like to reiterate that Jericho's career will not be complete until he stands in the ring on live television and actually reads the phone
book.
14) Sting- I have never ever been a fan of his. With that said, he is a first ballot hall of famer and people would love to see him face guys like
The Undertaker once. It's about eyeballs.
15) AJ Styles: Someone has to wrestle.
16) RVD: People love Mr. Monday Night and not every good guy has to be a child pandering d-bag.
17) Rey Mysterio: I really, really cannot stand Rey Mysterio, but while not every good guy has to be a child pandering d-bag, I may as well choose the
worlds second biggest child pandering d-bag next to Cena.
18) Kevin Nash: I really wanted to take both he and Hall but I didn't want the hate mail. Say what you will of Nash's clearly eroded ring
skills, but dude gets a reaction and can speak with the best of em. Also, I would really enjoy him verbally running guys like Cena down.
19) Jeff Hardy: Kids love him too, however I would put a clause in his contract mandating that his brother serve his prison sentence and said sentence
be increased to the death penalty. Somewhere out there Ozzie Canseco and Jeffery Jordan own Matt Hardy t-shirts. Sadly they are the only 2 of the
10,000,000 Hardy related shirts ever purchased with Matt's logo on them.
20) Jack Swagger: Holy shit this last one was tough. There are probably 10 other guys who would deserve it as much including a "fella" with pasty
white skin and orange hair, however I'm going to give the nod to the All American American American American World Champion. Say what you will
about his backasswards push but dude has been throwing fastballs since he got the strap.
Honorable Mention To: Sheamus, The Miz, Christian, Hall, Anderson, The Dudleys, Kane, Samoa Joe and 25 other guys who I couldn't put on this
list because they weren't legit World Champions or just simply got caught up in the numbers game.
Dishonorable Mention To: Divas no longer posing in Playboy and therefore having little reason for being on my TV, and Kung Fu Naki.
In conclusion: If you were to put this roster together for Monday Night Raw you would be drawing north of 4.0's regularly and start scratching
5.0's in no time at all. My guess is that in a standard 2 hour show there would probably end up being 14 minutes of wrestling and 106 minutes
of shit talking, but last time I checked the highest rated segment in prowrestling history was "Rock: This Is Your Life!" so there you go.
[Edited on 5-12-2010 by DKBroiler]
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FistHiccups
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quote: Originally posted by DKBroiler
My guess is that in a standard 2 hour show there would probably end up being 14 minutes of wrestling and 106 minutes of shit talking
Your show's commercial-free?
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Pointless speculation AND list-making? Two of my favorite things! As I wrote this up, I realized it's a lot harder to limit yourself to twenty
than you'd think. I eliminated a few obvious draws (Taker, Hogan, Flair, Angle) largely due to age and at least one (Cena) mostly due to
personal taste. I get what Cena brings to the table, I understand it, but I just can't get myself behind it. Not really sure why.
1) Randy Orton - As much of a useless turd as he's been for most of his career, he's clearly come into his own over the last couple.
He's young enough to have a lot of use ahead of him and puts lots of character into everything he does.
2) A.J. Styles - In-ring, maybe the best wrestler in the world right now (at least on TV that I can see), pretty much capable of giving you an awesome
main event at will.
3) HHH - Son-in-law or not, he's one of the last great draws from the Attitude era, he can talk, he can wrestle, and still has the best
entrance.
4) Samoa Joe - Brings legitimate looking, savage violence and is clearly up for any stupid booking angle you throw at him. (You want me to paint what
on my face? Sure, why not? Oh, and you want me to be kidnapped for a few weeks and then act like nothing happened? Okie doke).
5) C.M. Punk - Great wrestler, great heel, great finisher (and I'd cheat and let him keep Serena, but probably spare us Luke Gallows).
6) Chris Jericho - The Teflon man, versatile and capable of doing anything. I'll always love him as a heel, but still hope he has one more good
face run in him.
7) The Big Show - I've inexplicably grown to love the big guy, and you need at least one giant in any wrestling company.
8) Jeff Hardy - Hopefully without his personal demons, because, in early-mid 2009, he was as over as anybody in wrestling.
9) John Morrison - Incredibly entertaining in the ring, fantastic entrance, cool character. Still hasn't fully mastered the mic, at least as a
face, but has time to grow.
10) The Pope - One of the best of the young guys on the mic, has a unique gimmick.
11) R-Truth - Yes, everything he does is flippy, but it's generally done well, and I remember he can be an effective heel, too, from his TNA
days.
12) Jack Swagger - Also currently a main eventer, but perhaps pushed too fast. Brings the amateur style and power and lots of room to develop.
13) Sheamus - The Brute, capable of savage violence. He's won me over a LOT in the last couple of months (and just want to keep hearin'
him say, "Listen, fella")
14) Mr. Anderson - Fantastic mic work and angles makes up for a somewhat bland in-ring style. He's really blossomed in TNA after getting kind
of tepid in his last year or two in WWE.
15) The Miz - A true dickweed, through and through. Few heels are as naturally hatable as the Miz.
16) Rey Mysterio - Can still work a great match (see his series with Jericho last year). I'm not a fan of his mic work, but he's
super-over and always brings in the kids.
17) Alex Shelley - Just a big ball of potential waiting to be tapped and everyone knows it. Sabin's great, too, but, again, limited roster
spots.
18) Kofi Kingston - I fear he may be losing steam, but he's got obvious talent and natural charisma.
19) Christian - Just one of my personal favorite wrestlers.
20) Edge - I almost forgot about Edge until I put Christian in and I'm not sure why. I've always enjoyed him, he's a great talker,
he's a fantastic heel. I think the tepid babyface run from earlier this year left a bad taste in my mouth, but he's getting back on track
now.
I didn't include any women because you need a real division, not just one or two. Given a top ten divas/knockouts to pick to add to the show,
I'd go with:
1) Angelina Love
2) Daffney
3) Awesome Kong
4) Gail Kim
5) Maryse
6) Velvet Sky
8) Beth Phoenix
9) Michelle McCool
10) ODB
[Edited on 5-12-2010 by GodEatGod]
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quote: Originally posted by FistHiccups
quote: Originally posted by DKBroiler
My guess is that in a standard 2 hour show there would probably end up being 14 minutes of wrestling and 106 minutes of shit talking
Your show's commercial-free?
Well it is Raw! Hahaha. Funny enough I actually thought about this for a few minutes and decided that I would get trash talked less if I just did it
off of the full 2 hours rather then shoehorning in 30 minutes of commercials. I'll amend it to my show being 106 minutes of trash talk and
negative 16 minutes of actual matches however I would need one of our trusty professors of Wrestling's Quantum Physics to explain how I would do
that and unforunately I believe they are all busy working on the "Batista Overselling Therum" right now.
The world no longer moves when Chuck Norris does push-ups because Tim Tebow pushes back.
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standrir
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Sounds like fun I'll take a stab at it. I put my 20 based on producing a wrestling show not just my 20 favorite wrestlers.
1. Christian Cage- THE All-Around Performer
2. Chris Jericho- other half of the greatest tag team where both people have a "Chris" as part of their name and one didn't kill people.
3. Ric Flair- strictly to be the "on-air" authority figure. The only trick here is NO WRESTLING. Yes he can yell like an old man from the stage
but no he cannot wrestle.
4. A. J. Styles- My favorite wrestler right now and has been for years. Best pure in-ring talent now that Shawn's retired.
5. John Cena- I know Homey is played out but everything he does feels bigtime which you cannot teach.
6. C.M. Punk- He's the best pure heel going right now and everything he seems to touch turns to gold.
7. Samoa Joe- For this I want Bad Ass Joe, the Joe that was ROH champion for almost two years. Put him in a feud with Punk to start off and the rest
writes itself.
8. Kurt Angle- The original "Best in the World at What he Does." He's getting older, but there's enough people here for him to have
matches with that he'll be motivated for a while.
9. The Miz- He's the next Chris Jericho who was originally the next Shawn Michaels. There's nothing in the business, so far, that he
hasn't excelled at.
10. Edge- I wanted to stray away from the WWE main event scene (thus no HHH, Sheamus, or Show) but you have to have Edge. He's too good at
telling the story.
11. Randy Orton- I really didn't want to put him on here. But the fact is, the last three years have really made Orton not only
tolerable, but one of the only few truly bankable main event players.
12. Rob Van Dam- I knew I wanted to put either him or Hardy on here, and, to be honest, RVD is more reliable.
13. Kofi Kingston- Athletic, gifted, a serviceable talker and someone that will be around for a long time.
14. William Regal- I've always been a huge fan of his and I think given the right circumstances either as a foe for Flair or even as a
midcard/teacher role, he'd be a very valuable hand.
15. Kane- This list needed more Kane. Plus, I didn't want the Undertaker due to my desire to skew a little younger and, to be honest, I think
Kane has one good run left in him.
16. Shelton Benjamin- Maybe the best pure athlete in the last decade and really would be suited well in my now overcrowded midcard.
17. Alex Shelley- funny, intelligent, great on the mic, and a skilled worker. Put him in a stable with Jericho, Miz, and Christian and you'd
have a level of awesome not seen ever before.
18. Jack Swagger- World Champion, build in feuds with Joe and Angle, and an amateur background makes this an easy add.
19. D'Angelo Dinero- I really tried to consider these last two and I couldn't think of a reason not to have him on here. He's on
the verge of greatness and would be perfectly suited on a show where, other than Orton and Cena, there is no clear cut top guy.
20. James Storm- I agonized over this last pick but in the end, I went with someone who entertains me. Plus, I really want to see a Straight
Edge vs. Boozer Cruiser feud.
21. Jay Lethal- Since Flair is my on-air talent I felt like I could squeeze in one more actual wrestler (well at least that's how I'm
justifying it). His interactions with Flair, the history of his characters, and the fact that he's so young rounds out my 20(1).
"Tell your story walking bitch." -Scott Steiner
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Standrir,
Shelton and Kofi are great "athletes". Would you describe Alex Shelley as an "athlete" too or is he more of an "intellectual"?
Mel Kiper, Jim Ross and Chad Ford would be proud of your work.
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standrir
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DK Broiler,
I felt very Todd McShay when I was doing it. Younger than the rest, better insight, but I don't have the hair of the Kiper's of the
world. And to answer your second point, I think of Shelly much like a kick returner. He's got great speed and athleticism and has the skills
to break one. Plus, he talks to the media better than anyone, I could see a Desmond Howard type career out of him. Flashes of brilliance, numerous
awards, and a job just using his mic skills when he's all done.
"Tell your story walking bitch." -Scott Steiner
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DKBroiler
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Hahahahaha.
I hear he is also great in the community and the clubhouse.
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theflammablemanimal
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Wow, this is tougher than I thought. Especially since I don't see anything about not including indie guys so I'm going to include 1.
I'm also going to cheat by including tag teams as 1 person (and making up a tag team).
Star Power:
1) John Cena
2) HHH
3) Chris Jericho
4) Kurt Angle
Heavyweights:
5) Hernandez
6) Matt Morgan
7) Sheamus
8) Jack Swagger
9) Samoa Joe
Established Stars:
10) AJ Styles
11) CM Punk
12) Miz
13) John Morrison
14) Austin Aries - You could build a company around this guy. Great worker, great talker, pure money.
Tag Teams
15) World's Greatest Tag Team
16) Beer Money
17) Motor City Machine Guns
18) Amazing Red/Evan Bourne (I cheated)
Tremendous Upside:
19) Bryan Danielson
20) Doug Williams (great worker and awesome heel)
I think everyone on my roster could have a great match with everyone else. Got a nice tag team division and midcard, a nice group of big guys and high
fliers, some great wrestlers and talkers, and everyone has main event potential. I don't even feel the need to explain most of these picks. The
only weakness is that a few guys (Hernandez, Morrison, Danielson) have questionable mic skills.
But the cuts I will explain. And first let me say that I cut all divas/knockouts because who gives a shit? I know some of them can talk and wrestle,
but they don't bring anything to the table that a male wrestler can't do. They're only there for T&A; so let them be valets.
Cut:
Undertaker - How much longer can he last?
Christopher Daniels
Orton - Meh. He's better but not worth keeping
Batista - My big men aren't as impressive but are better workers. Still, his newfound promo ability makes him a hard loss
Sting - Old and boring in every aspect
Jeff Hardy - Nothing but a stunt man. Has gotten slightly better as a wrestler, but is mostly a spotfest with no mic skills.
Flair - Old. Better as a authority figure, which shouldn't count to actual roster
Big Show - He's awesome but his size makes it impossible to have great matches with most people
Rey Mysterio - Meh. A lot of high fliers on my list have the same (if not more) ability and the same tiny underdog vibe
Young Bucks/Generation Me - Already have some great tag teams/high fliers
Homicide - Does a great job as an insane heel, but I think some others can work
Edge - Somehow wasn't at the top of my mind when I made this list. Great promo guy and wrestler, but I think he's lost a step. Plus I
think the Spear is ridiculous
Christian - Love the guy but he's getting old
RVD - I've got younger and better high flyers on the list
The Colons - Tough cut. Could be great in a tag division.
Hart Dynasty - Ditto. Tons of potential.
Kofi/R-Truth - They can both jump and flip. Big whoop.
Jack Evans - Tremendous high flier, maybe the best, but I ran out of spots. It was between him and Morrison and I think Morrison can probably do the
same insane shit as Evans.
[Edited on 5-12-2010 by theflammablemanimal]
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MAIN EVENT
1. CM Punk
Best talker in the business right now plus a damn good wrestler. Good way to pad up the main event scene.
2. Christian
It's no secret on these boards that I'm a huge Christian fan. Huge main event upside. Plus he's a good way to flesh out the tag
scene if you also hire...
3. Edge
Once again huge main event pull, awesome tag wrestler, can fit in any division but obviously at the top of the card. Also awesome for filling out tag
division with...
4. Chris Jericho
Jericho is awesome. Plain and simple. He had loads of history with the above 2 as tag partners and opponents.
5. Samoa Joe
Powerhouse player who can have a good match with just about anybody. Plus having him and Punk on the same roster again is a dream for me.
6. AJ Styles
One of the most versatile performers in this day and age. Loads of history with Christian and Samoa Joe plus huge potential for dream matches with
Edge, Jericho and CM Punk.
7. RVD
Once again, versatile performer who is just a lot of fun.
8.. Jack Swagger
It was a toss-up between the him and Angle but I chose Swagger because he's younger and seemingly just at the beginning of a hot streak right
now.
TAG TEAMS
9. Alex Shelly
10. Chris Sabin
MCMG vs Edge & Christian. Need I saw more.
11. The Miz
12. Jon Morrison
The best tag team WWE has produced in almost a decade. Awesome athletic ability combined with phenomenal mic skills.
13. Homicide
14. Hernandez
LAX is probably my favourite tag team ever just because they were so goddamn vicious.
Also take into account all players involved in the tag division are solid midcarders to main eventers when on their own, making for a very well
balanced roster, especially when you see the...
MIDCARD
15. Bryan Danielson
Best technical wrestler on the planet today. Plus he's just so damn likable.
16. D'Angelo Dinero
Great wrestler, great talker and a character that is tonnes of fun.
17. Desmond Wolfe
This guy is just vicious in the ring.
18. Mr. Anderson
He could very well be the best talker in the business today.
19. Matt Morgan
Awesome big man wrestler with great mic skills.
20. Jay Lethal
Black Machismo. Need I say more.
While this roster lacks massive star power, it would be a dream TNA roster as it stands now. Lots of potential for 5 star feuds in every division and
room for anybody to move up or down the card at will.
RAW - 4
SD - 3
NXT - 1 (until last night)
TNA - 12
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My list would probably look like the rest of these give or take a few names. Kings of Wrestling would have to be on it - Hero and Claudio should be
in one of the big companies.
What's with the Karate Kid? Mr. Myagi tells Daniel-san to whack off, and now Jackie Chan is telling Jaden Smith to Jack it off...
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Claudio? Really? Has he gotten better recently? Based on what I've seen from him pre-2006, I've got no interest in him on a roster.
I'm surprised so many (3) people have divas on their roster. Are women wrestlers actually necessary to have a successful wrestling company?
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DevilSoprano
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Nope, they should be on our beck and call to serve us when we need things. Women should know where they belong.
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Hootie McBoob
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20 Singles wrestlers wouldn't cut it. You need 20 singles wrestlers, 10 tags, and probably 10 female wrestlers just to keep things interesting
and fresh. Otherwise the match ups will get boring in a hurry. You'd also need a good mix of guys who can talk, work in the ring, and
entertain.
And yes, I made up some of the tags. So sue me.
1) Chris Jericho - Can make everyone look good.
2) Kurt Angle - Ditto
3) Desmond Wolfe
4) Edge
5) Taker
6) Bryan Danielson
7) AJ Styles
8) Matt Morgan
9) CM Punk
10) Big Show
11) RVD
12) Miz
13) Santino
14) Golddust
16) Christian
17) Wade Barrett
18) Kane
19) Samoa Joe
20) HHH
Tags:
1) Dudleys
2) Benajmin/Haas
3) Hart Dynasty
4) Carlito/Primo
5) LAX
6) MCM
7) McIntyre/Regal
8) The Dibiases (Ted and Brett)
9) Knox/Jeff Hardy (Great Little and Big with potential)
10) Beer Money
Women:
1) Kong
2) Beth Phoenix
3) Mickie James
4) ODB
5) Daffney
6) Maryse
7) Velvet Sky
8) Tiffany
9) Hamada
10 Trish Stratus (we are all winging it here, so I want her)
And since we are trying to build a good company here, you would need managers. I believe that they are one top missing pieces of the puzzle in
wrestling today. A good manager brings instant heat and can help the non talkers in the business. Give me Flair, Paul E., Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels,
and The Million Dollar Man (for his sons) to start.
And Taz and JR on the announce team.
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OOMike
Man of a Thousand Holds
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posted on 5-14-2010 at 02:27 AM |
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This is my perfect wrestling show, I took the liberty of including tag teams as one spot. This is my dream show.
1. Jimmy SuperFly Snuka
2. Ricky The Dragon Steamboat
3. Roddy Piper
4. Mr. Fuji
5. Andre the Giant
6. Big John Studd
7. Jake The Snake Roberts
8. Wild Samoans with Capt. Lou
9. Dudley Boys incl. Spike
10. Kurt Angle
11. Stone Cold Steve Austin
12. The Rock
13. DX
14. Undertaker and Kane and Paul Bearer
15. Mick Foley
16. Al Snow
17. Hardy Boyz & Lita
18. Edge and Christian
19. Sgt. Slaughter
20. Million Dollar Man and Virgil
ETA Capt Lou...how could I forget.
Also adding my announce team of JR and Jessie the Body
[Edited on 5-14-2010 by OOMike]
Alright already, I'm sorry, Unfuck you.
The only OO columnist that has never written a column.
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kafkonia
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posted on 5-14-2010 at 03:15 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
I'm surprised so many (3) people have divas on their roster. Are women wrestlers actually necessary to have a successful wrestling company?
No more so than men....
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Shastar
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posted on 5-14-2010 at 10:56 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by DKBroiler
13) Chris Jericho: He could break both legs, lose an arm to a landmine, and get layrngitus and I would still tune in just to watch him make faces. I
would like to reiterate that Jericho's career will not be complete until he stands in the ring on live television and actually reads the phone
book.
Actually, he already did that in WCW (sort of.)
One night, he came out and claimed that he knew more holds and moves than Dean Malenko (The Man of 1000 holds) and then proceeded to whip out a list
of the holds that he knew (a piece of roll script that extended out of the ring) and started reading, during which they had to take a commercial break
and when they got back, he was STILL reading the list. Most of his holds were variations on the Arm Bar but he also threw some silly names int here
too, like the Moss Covered 3-Handled Family Gredunza. Me and my roomie remembered falling off the couch we were laughing so hard at this.
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blackdragon
The Great One
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posted on 5-14-2010 at 01:49 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Hootie McBoob
20 Singles wrestlers wouldn't cut it.
I'll play along after work today, but this quote stood out for me.
I don't know, I can see 20 guys staying interesting for several months, possibly a year if we assume they only occupy about 80 minutes of actual
air time per week and you don't try to cram 6 five minutes matches on every show.
Between tag matches, promos, and the occasional squash/showcase match, I think it'd be viable for a while.
A ho fucks everybody. A bitch fucks everybody but you.
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southermagu
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posted on 5-14-2010 at 02:02 PM |
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The criteria for my list is simple. Either a wrestler from the past in his prime, or a wrestler today who is still in his prime. If it is for past
performance, it will be noted alongside with they particular year I'm thinking of.
1. Jericho
2. Raven (1995)
3. Rey Mysterio (1996)
4. Owen Hart
5. Dynamite Kid (1983)
6. Samoa Joe
7. Scott Cardinal (Shut up, it's my list!)
8. Jake Roberts
9. Magnum TA (1986)
10. Kenta Kobashi (1994)
11. Randy Savage (1990)
12. Taz (1998)
13. CM Punk
14. Bryan Clarke (1998)
15. Kurt Angle (2003)
16. Mr. Perfect (1990)
17. Arn Anderson (1989)
18. Ric Flair (1992)
19. Danny Hodge (Because it's also my name.)
20. Jay Lethal
[Edited on 5-14-2010 by southermagu]
God is Dead, because Nietzsche no sold his finisher.
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theflammablemanimal
Man of a Thousand Holds
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posted on 5-14-2010 at 03:16 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by DevilSoprano
Nope, they should be on our beck and call to serve us when we need things. Women should know where they belong.
Yes, that's exactly what I was saying. The only reason I could possibly think women wrestling doesn't add to the show is because they
belong in the kitchen.
Glad we had this talk.
Shastar, didn't Saturn use the moss-covered 3 handle gredunza (I think a kind of spinning perfectplex) as his finisher? Did he steal that name
from Jericho's list of holds?
quote: Originally posted by OOMike
This is my perfect wrestling show, I took the liberty of including tag teams as one spot. This is my dream show.
1. Jimmy SuperFly Snuka
2. Ricky The Dragon Steamboat
3. Roddy Piper
4. Mr. Fuji
5. Andre the Giant
6. Big John Studd
7. Jake The Snake Roberts
8. Wild Samoans with Capt. Lou
Is that you Black Machismo? This sounds just like his list for the top 10 ranking.
[Edited on 5-14-2010 by theflammablemanimal]
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blackdragon
The Great One
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posted on 5-14-2010 at 05:54 PM |
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I can't remember if Saturn called his move that or if it was one of the announcers. Either way, it was always one of those "that's so
silly it's awesome" names for a move.
Some people may complain it's a midcard finisher, but I'd love to see someone like MVP use it. It's world's better than the
Play Maker and whatever his sloppy ass version of Paydirt is called.
A ho fucks everybody. A bitch fucks everybody but you.
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