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Author: Subject: 20 Roster Spots - who do you want?
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posted on 5-14-2010 at 07:30 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Shastar,

Thank you for reminding me of something from my youth that I had forgotten but LOVED when it happened. That speech was one of the 197,503 reasons why Chris Jericho is, was, and always will be one of my favorite pro wrestlers of all time.

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20 wrestlers are plenty for 1 weekly show. Here is how you do it using a formula I learned from SD vs Raw 2008.

Week 1

A fights B
C fights D
E fights F
G fights H
I fights J

K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S and T can either get thrown into a battle royal, tag match or random promos.

Week 2

K through T get broken into the same format at A through J in week 1.

A through J get broken into the same format as K through T in week 1.

Week 3

A and C face B and D in a tag match.
E and G face F and H in a tag match.
I and J compete in a triple threat with whomever's push isn't working in K through T. Others are given promo time, others get put into the random match generator, etc. etc. etc.

While I doubt the math works out exactly correct the 20 squared is 400 and 20 to the 20th power is some large number that doesn't fit on my calculator which runs out of numbers after I get to about 20 to the 7th power at something like 12,800,000. Long story short you have MILLIONS of possible match combinations and you would never really NEED more then 20 which was the basic roster size for each drafted show in the SD vs Raw 2008 game.

To use another video game reference the story I built for SD vs Raw 2010 online when for 8 straight months and I never repeated a match twice unless there was a storyline reason to do so. It's really not that difficult as long as you keep track of what you have already done.

Or maybe it is very difficult and I'm one of the few people that understand how to put a card together for a long stretch of time. Hmmm...





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posted on 5-15-2010 at 02:33 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Shastar

Or maybe it is very difficult and I'm one of the few people that understand how to put a card together for a long stretch of time. Hmmm...


Well, I would venture that most of us might do just a tad better than the writer monkeys that the WWE employees, you have to keep in mind that those same twenty wrestlers won't all be main eventers. Oh, you could push them as such (and the marks of the worlds would love it), but if you were truly trying to make money, you couldn't have too many Danielson vs. Angle main events. You and I would watch, but most of America could probably give two shits.

Let's face it - wrestling is about making money. You have to please the masses. That's why I say you need a larger roster. Especially if you give guys time off to deal with injuries, and to deal with the public's burnout of guys who've overstayed their welcome in the spotlight.

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posted on 5-19-2010 at 08:12 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
This exercise was really fun and a tremendous challenge. I wanted to maintain a balance between faces & heels, but there are just so many great heels today. My list skews young, as I consciously left off guys like Hogan, Nash, & The Undertaker who are either past their prime or damn close. I also left off Cena & Orton. I am so tired of Cena and just don�t get why he is soooo over with the masses. And Orton�well I just don�t like the assclown. I am also bored with Triple H and Batista to be honest. I included tag teams and women because I do think they are a part of the product. I would love to see the importance of tag team wrestling return to some semblance of the glory years when The Rock n� Roll Express, The Hart Foundation, The British Bulldogs, The Road Warriors, and The Midnight Express were all top level stars.

Faces

Samoa Joe
Bryan Danielson
Jeff Hardy
John Morrison

Heels

Ted Dibiase Jr. (could conceivably be turned face)
Matt Morgan
CM Punk
The Miz (a face turn eventually?? I could see it)
Takeshi Morishima
Austin Aries


Tag Teams

The Hart Dynasty
Beer Money Inc.
Team Ebony - Shelton Benjamin & The Pope (I made this team up, but they would rock together)
The Empire - Drew McIntyre & Wade Barrett (McIntyre alone does nothing for me�he needs someone with him who can be entertaining)
The Briscoe Brothers


Ladies

Michelle McCool
Angelina Love
Velvet Sky
Gail Kim
Nattie Neidhart

I agree with something that someone else said as far as managers�they are a key ingredient that has been missing in wrestling for awhile. Guys like Bobby Heenan, Mr. Fuji, and Jimmy Hart were vital to the success of the guys they managed back in the day, and we need to see a return to the things that made us all fall in love with wrestling in the first place. So�I would have Flair, Regal, Father James Mitchell, Santino Marella, and Teddy Long on board as managers. Maybe some current divas could stop wrestling and do what they are qualified for�stand at ringside looking fine. I am thinking maybe Kelly Kelly, Tiffany, and Christy Hemme. My announce team�and this was a tough choice�would be a three man crew of Cole, Lawler, & Tazz.

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posted on 5-19-2010 at 10:26 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Vince McMahon's Wet Dream:

1. Great Khali
2. Santino
3. Hornswoggle
4. Hulk Hogan
5. The Iron Sheik
6. Fatt Hardy
7. Dudebusters
8. Michelle McCool
9. Bella Twins
10. X-Pac
11. Scott Hall
12. Scott Steiner
13. Orlando Jordan
14. Kozlov
15. Slam Master J
16. Shannon Moore
17. Mabel
18. Mark Henry
19. Jimmy Wang Yang
20. The Monster Abyss

What the fuck is work rate?

Okay, my real Fed:

Main Event Picture:
1. Batista (I don't know why, but I'm a mark for heel Batista...and he's needed to balance the flippy guys that I'm sure will make up most of my roster).
2. Chris Jericho (the absolute centerpiece of my franchise...Not to kiss his ass too much, but I think he's pretty much Jesus, or at the very least The Dali Lama in wrestling boots...better tipper though)
3. Randy Orton (I kinda dig it now that I'm supposed to root for the psychopath. I should probably see a shrink about that.
4. Angle (3 I's version baby!)
5. The Whole F'ing Show. I haven't seen much of him in TNA, but I'm still a mark for his ECW stuff. Nobody else who's old matches I'd rather watch.
6. CM Punk. The total package, and IMO,

IC/2nd tier contenders:
1. Edge (great story teller, but never seemed to be the whole deal to me)
2. Wade Barrett (mostly as Jericho's partner in crime. Seriously, this guy is gonna be a massive star)
3. The Pope. I hear he does work, I don't know, I don't watch TNA.
4. Samoa Joe. Maybe he should be in group 1, but his name just came to mind, so whatever. Give him Taz's ECW gimmick and see where he belongs.
5. Jerry Lynn (work rate. work rate. work rate. And if you don't think I'm gonna make him fight RVD 1,000,000 times just because, you Sir, would be wrong.)

Cruiserweight/X-Division/Whatever:
1. Rey Mysterio (he's over with the kiddies and Wale shouts him out on the Cliche Lil Wayne Feature...what more do you want?)
2. Shelton Benjamin (And he'll get to win matches! I super, super promise!)
3. Kofi Kingston (Although he needs a new name now that he's not Jamaican anymore)
4. Jack Evans (Indy guy Du Jour who jumps off absolutely idiotic heights)
5. Matt Bourne



Teams:
1. Morrison/Miz (oh they're back, and they're AWESOME)
2. Hart Dynasty w/ Nattie (Cause Nattie both turns me on and makes me feel a little uncomfortable about that)
3. MCMG
4. Colons (back and better than ever!)

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posted on 5-21-2010 at 04:29 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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My announce team�and this was a tough choice�would be a three man crew of Cole, Lawler, & Tazz.



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I thought it was universally agreed upon that the best announce team was Heenan and Monsoon with J.R. and Paul Heyman a close second...





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posted on 5-21-2010 at 07:42 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Fun idea. Since everyone else is taking shortcuts and bending the rules a little, hopefully the original poster won't mind if I take the same liberties.

My announce team would be good old J.R. and Josh Matthews (the kid is getting quite good at his job). My ring announcer would be Savannah, because she's purty and I was never a big fan of Lillian anyway. My backstage interviewer is Layla, so we wouldn't ever have to be subjected to her wrestling. My on-air GM/authority figure, even though I'm kinda sick of him, is Stone Cold Steve Austin.

As you can see, I'm shooting for youth and potential here more than size or name value.

1- Samoa Joe- I'd make him
the franchise player of the company a la Cena to WWE.

2- Austin Aries- Probably would be the top heel for awhile.

3- Bryan Danielson

4- AJ Styles

5- Christian- cagey vet with a few years left who is still a great guy to have around for both promos and matches

6- Kurt Angle- yeah, he's old and broken down but even running on fumes, I believe he could still have some amazing matches with most of the other guys on this roster

7- Sheamus

8- Low-Ki

9- Tajiri

10- Chris Jericho

11- CM Punk

12- Justin Gabriel

13- Shelton Benjamin

14- Jay Lethal

15- Kenny Omega

Tag Teams
16- Tyson Kidd & DH Smith

17- Paul London & Brian Kendrick

18- Chris Sabin & Alex Shelley

19- Kevin Steen & El Generico

20- Robert Roode & James Storm

And a few women so we can run a womens' division

1- Alyssa Flash

2- Hamada

3- Gail Kim

4- Angelina Love

5- Natalya

6- Roxxi

7- Sarita

8- Maryse

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posted on 5-21-2010 at 08:05 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
You know, this is actually one of my favorite threads because the concept is so interesting. I actually almost posted a companion thread in the Fantasy forum asking anyone who pleased to book 4 weeks/5 shows (4 two hour tv shows and one 3 hour PPV) using their roster. Or they could just post their ideas for the main event.

The problem I had is that my main event storyline alone took up almost half of an average sized 25 post page. I felt it was way too long to be readable.

Maybe I'll condense it and start that thread anyway, but I can give the short version of what I've written.

The main event scene I envisioned consisted of Owen Hart, Ric Flair, Arn Anderson and Scott Cardinal (because someone had to job) with Jake Roberts, Raven, Dynamite and Samoa Joe on the periphery.

Essentially, Flair/Anderson/Cardinal form an alliance in trying to keep Hart from the title with some initial success before Dynamite and Joe balance it out.

Raven and Roberts than interject and tip the scales back in favor of the heel alliance and subsequently Raven joins officially while Roberts declines.

Owen earns a title shot on free tv the week of the PPV, with a stipulation that he must defend his title at the upcoming PPV against Flair should he win.

He does, but the heel alliance destroys him afterward with Raven going well beyond the accepted level of violence (repeatedly hitting Owen with DDT's on the floor.)

The title is vacated at the PPV and heel alliance comes out on top with Flair winning the title over Dynamite Kid (Owen's personal choice to replace him) and, a to that point unbeaten, Kurt Angle.

If anyone else is interested in such a thread, I'll be glad to tighten it up and post it in the Fantasy forum.

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If anyone else is interested in such a thread, I'll be glad to tighten it up and post it in the Fantasy forum.


I can't speak for everybody, but if you posted it I'd definitely set aside some time and give it a read.

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12- Justin Gabriel



I know this thread isn't about questioning others' picks, but HUH?

What do you see in Gabriel that a ton of other guys (Bourne, Jack Evans, PAC, the entire X-division) can't do better?

And Mr Magu, I'd read that but I thought we were doing rosters that were possible, not full of dead peeps

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What do you see in Gabriel that a ton of other guys (Bourne, Jack Evans, PAC, the entire X-division) can't do better?



Well, he's got the WWE marketing machine behind him so it probably skewers my perception somewhat, but to me I see more of the "it" factor in Gabriel than I do in those others, and he isn't as ridiculously undersized as they are, either. Not that size matters to me, but stretchiness aside I just think Gabriel is more impressive overall than a guy like Jack Evans. If Bourne and Gabriel are capable of playing the exact same role I think I'd rather let Gabriel play it because I think he's got more of a chance of catching on with the crowd and being a big deal than Bourne does. But again, a lot of that line of thinking may have to do with the amount of effort WWE has put into Gabriel vs. the lack of effort they've put into Bourne (and my general sense of being underwhelmed by Evans and having never seen PAC)

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posted on 5-21-2010 at 08:40 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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And Mr Magu, I'd read that but I thought we were doing rosters that were possible, not full of dead peeps


I just took my cue from OOMike on that one and went all out on what I think would make the best roster for me to work with.

I only had the two vanity picks (Cardinal and Hodge) and ended finding that Cardinal was one that I actually had a lot of value in.

That or I neglected to mention that some of these picks have been brought in by The Doctor, are actually Black Lanterns or crossed over from the WWE Zombies universe....





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(and my general sense of being underwhelmed by Evans)


Where's the emoticon for a spit take?

I know we're getting into a matter of opinion here, so I won't argue too much.

But unless I've missed something, so far all Gabriel has done to get over (besides being unbelievably horrible on the mic) is hit a 450 splash (and frankly, not a very well-executed one compared to, say Hardy or Aries). Meanwhile, Jack Evans can do a 630. Hell, Evans can do a moonsault 630...off the top of a cage.

Really, it's just simple math:

630>450
Evans>Gabriel

And if you haven't seen Pac, The Man That Gravity Forgot, do yourself a favor and check him out. Try youtube (http://tinyurl.com/298j8su) or a PWG dvd (like PWG sells out, 3 disc set for 19.99, which has 3 or 4 Pac matches).

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Since my 3 man booth of Cole, Tazz, & Lawler has received scorn, I wanna know...who do you think is better?? I approached this from a realistic standpoint, so JR is essentially retired, Monsoon is dead, and Jessie Ventura has moved on. Who do you like better?? Tenay?? Grisham?? Striker?? Don West?? Joey Styles?? Just curious. Lawler's act is a little old, but he's still entertaining in my book. Tazz is solid. And I have to say it pained me greatly to choose Cole...but as much as I hate to admit it he has really grown into the job in recent months.

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I actually wouldn't mind a Joey Styles/Heel Don West booth.

I actually really liked West as an announcer when he went Heel. The stuff surrounding it was crap, but his commentary actually improved by leaps and bounds.

He toned down the incessant yelling and his old school "Justifying the Heels Action" logic was refreshing as well as the fact that he would sometimes abandon it altogether if the situation called for it.

Joey Styles is Joey Styles and could always get it done.





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You know, this is actually one of my favorite threads because the concept is so interesting. I actually almost posted a companion thread in the Fantasy forum asking anyone who pleased to book 4 weeks/5 shows (4 two hour tv shows and one 3 hour PPV) using their roster. Or they could just post their ideas for the main event.


Something similar.. but in draft form... geting ready to kick off oover at puns house. 3rd annual version of it to boot.





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Where's the emoticon for a spit take?

I know we're getting into a matter of opinion here, so I won't argue too much.



Please don't get me wrong, I like Jack Evans. I think he's overrated, but I like him in spite of that. I enjoy his matches for what they are, I appreciate his ability to take awesome bumps, and I generally cringe at the term "spot monkey" so I won't call him that but I don't think he's the complete package that a Gabriel is. If Evans signed with WWE tomorrow, you wouldn't hear me complain one bit, but I certainly wouldn't be championing him to have an especially prominent role or anything. I just think at the end of the day, Gabriel has more overall potential and will ultimately be more versatile as far as what kind of matches he can work.

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I don't think he's the complete package that a Gabriel is.


Maybe it's because I don't watch FCW, but I don't know where you're seeing a "complete package" from Gabriel.

Sam, Taz is the only guy from your Announce Booth worth keeping. Maybe it's because of the voice in their ears, but Cole and Lawler just seem like such shills and piles of suck. I can't stand when Lawler yells out catchphrases or does his stupid high-pitched squeal.

I guess with the current crop, I'd do Styles and Tazz. I'd add Stryker in a more subdued, old-school TNA type role where he could just add his knowledge and not be so over-the-top and constant with his jokes (which are sometimes very good), but you don't really need him when you've got the knowledge and comedy of Styles and Tazz (who's been cracking me up in TNA with talk of yambags and tomatoes).

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If anyone's interested, SoutherMagu has opened up a Fantasy thread for booking your 20 man rosters. Here's what I posted there.

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I've laid out full storylines for 5 weeks (2 shows each) and a PPV. My rosters got 24 guys (I cheated with tag teams), all current, plus I added some women into the mix for shits and giggles. No space to list the roster but you'll see it all by week 4. Announce team is Taz and Stryker.

SHOW 1

General Manager Jim Cornette comes out to say that this company isn�t about the past, it�s about the future. It�s not about politics, it�s about wrestling. It doesn�t matter who you know or what you�ve done. You�ve got to earn your spot here and the only way to the top is by winning. Now the first order of business is crowning a champion and that�s going to be done with a double-elimination tourney (hopefully this math will work) to decide who qualifies to compete at the PPV and we�re going to start with a doozy. (That�s pretty much the whole promo, so that it can last for only 2 or 3 minutes before kicking off the promotion with a huge match).

Samoa Joe vs AJ Styles � 15 to 20 minutes. Joe goes for a musclebuster, AJ wriggles out, lands on his feet and hits a neckbreaker. He goes for a springboard forearm but Joe sidesteps and locks on the Kokina Clutch. AJ staggers to the ropes, then hits Joe with a Flair-style low blow that the ref can�t see. One springboard 450 later and it�s over.

Brian Danielson vs Sheamus � Brutal match. Sheamus gets some huge clotheslines and power moves but Danielson won�t quit. He gets Sheamus in some submissions for a near tap and kicks the hell out of him (leaving nasty welts on his pale body). Eventually, Sheamus picks him up for the Irish Cross (or whatever it is now), but Danielson somehow turns it into that rollup where he hooks his heels under Sheamus� armpits and flips him over then bridges for the pin. Danielson celebrates but Sheamus flips out, beats the shit out of him, powerbombs him in the ring and then on the floor. Refs try to intervene but Sheamus tosses them into the crowd and powerbombs Danielson 1 more time, this time through a table.

The Motor City Machine Guns come out and talk about how, even though they�re the world�s greatest tag team, they�re also worthy of singles gold and they�re going to prove it by fighting each other. The actual World�s Greatest Tag Team comes out and says not only is that a lie but it is copyright infringement because they are the WGTT. MCMG calls them nerds, they argue back and forth for a bit until Cornette comes out and says fine, they�ll reschedule Sabin/Shelley and let these 2 teams settle their differences right now. But a few minutes into the awesomeness, Beer Money comes out, cracks a beer bottle over Sabin�s head and beats everyone down.

Main Event starts with 30 minutes left in the show:
John Cena vs HHH � Crowd should be going wild, even if they are 50-50 on Cena. If possible, they even do the thing like Rock/Hulk where they milk it for a bit. Then they lock up, HHH forces Cena to the corner, makes a clean break, pats Cena patronizingly on the cheek and then�rolls out of the ring? Crowd boos like hell as he gets counted out.

Jim Cornette runs out and yells at HHH, but HHH just crotch chops him and leaves. Cornette gets in the ring and says Cena gets the win but no way in hell is this show ending without a match. �Angle, Jericho, get your asses down here right now!�

Real Main Event:
Chris Jericho vs Kurt Angle � 15 to 20 minutes and�Angle wins after an Angle Slam from the top.

SHOW 2

Cornette confronts Beer Money about their interference from last week and says maybe they�ll stop laughing during their match tonight�against each other. Roode laughs it off and tells Storm to keep drinking.

Low-Ki vs Matt Morgan � End game starts when Low-ki dodges a Carbon Footprint in the corner and Morgan winds up in the Tree of Woe. Ki wears him out with kicks to the midsection and then a dropkick to the face. Ki goes up top to do the Warrior�s Way but Morgan somehow manages to sit up and crotch Ki on the top. Eventually, he manages to sit up again and do a modified Super Belly-to-Belly, tossing Ki across the ring and allowing him to hit a Carbon Footbrint for the win.

In the back, John Cena confronts HHH for walking out on him last week. HHH says that he shouldn�t have to play these games, and neither should Cena. Then he walks out.

Cornette comes out and runs down the matches for the night. CM Punk vs The Miz is announced as the main event. Also, Beer Money are shown backstage as Roode keeps feeding beer to Storm.

Amazing Red vs Evan Bourne � Ridiculously fast paced and flippy. Bourne wins.

Robert Roode vs James Storm � During the ring entrance, Storm is clearly intoxicated. Roode slaps him in the face and then runs in circles as Storm chases him. Storm eventually gets dizzy, Roode picks him up for a quick airplane spin, then puts him down and lets him collapse for the easy pinfall.

John Morrison vs Austin Aries � This match starts with almost an hour of show left. They go back and forth with crazy aerial maneuvers and counters. At 20 minutes, Morrison hits Starship Pain but Aries gets his foot on the rope. After some dueling pins, Aries gets the upper hand and hits the 450, but Morrison gets his foot on the ropes! Aries starts working over Morrison�s arms and locking on submissions, but Morrison won�t quit. At this point, the announce team (Taz and Styles) start wondering if Morrison shouldn�t just save something for the next round. Morrison dumps Aries to the outside and then does a springboard shooting star. Both men are knocked out and barely make it in before the 10 count. Now the announcers are wondering how much longer this can go and if we�ll have time for the main event. As the match continues, they announce that CM Punk/Miz is postponed to next week but we�ll stay on air until the match ends. Eventually, Morrison sets up for the Moonlight Drive, but Aries does a front-sweep, pounces on him, and locks on the Rings of Saturn for the win.

Show 3

Doug Williams comes out and asks who his opponent�s going to be? Is it going to be some high-flying daredevil some risk taking stuntman, or a real wrestler? His question is answered when Shelton Benjamin comes out.

Shelton Benjamin vs Doug Williams � Technical masterpiece. At the end, Williams goes for a Chaos Theory but Benjamin lands on his feet and hits Paydirt for the win. Postmatch, Benjamin offers his hand and Williams reluctanctly accepts.

Cornette confronts HHH in the back and asks why he screwed up his main event with Cena. He starts saying HHH is going to have to shape up if he wants to earn his spot, but HHH cuts him off and says �I�ve already earned my spot, and I don�t have to prove anything to you or any of these fans.�

Chris Sabin vs Alex Shelley � Sabin wins.

Jack Swagger vs Charlie Haas � Another technical masterpiece. Swagger wins with the gutwrench powerbomb.

Main Event:

CM Punk vs The Miz � During his entrance, CM Punk runs down Miz for all his Real World partying and his celebration of intoxication. Punk wins.

SHOW FOUR

Cornette comes out and runs down where we are after Round 1 (Cena, Angle, Sabin, Benjamin, Swagger, Aries, Danielson, Punk, Roode, Bourne, Morgan, Styles all have a win, everyone else has 1 loss) and says we�re going to start Round 2 by letting the losers pick their own opponents.

John Morrison comes out and picks�Austin Aries. �I know I can beat you.� This leads to another 30 minute+ match. At the end, Morrison goes for the Moonlight Drive and Aries tries to counter with the front sweep, but Morrison jumps over and then pele kicks him in the face, setting him up for Starship Pain and the win. Both guys are 1-1.

The Miz comes out and says he wants to prove himself by fighting someone that everyone thinks is better than him, Brian Danielson. Danielson comes out all bandaged up, still selling the beating from Sheamus, as Miz smirks and points to his own brain. But then Sheamus� music hits and he comes out say �Hey fella, I�m the one that did all the work and I�m going fight Danielson.� They jaw a bit, Cornette comes out to set Sheamus straight, Miz does that condescending �shoo� move to get Sheamus out of the ring, but gets kicked in the head as soon as he turns his back. This lets Danielson lock on a submission hold for the win. Miz is eliminated, Danielson is 2-0. Sheamus runs back in and takes out Danielson.

James Storm takes the mic to make his pick, but Punk�s music hits. Punk comes out and says that he can�t let Storm choose an opponent because Storm is intoxicated and everyone knows that you can�t make decisions when you�re drunk. So Punk will make the right decision for him and save him by eliminating him from the tournament. Storm accepts and dominates the match, but Punk wins after breaking a bottle over Storm�s head. Storm is eliminated, Punk is 2-0.

Jericho says that he�s the best at what he does so he�s going to pick the toughest opponent he can think of�HHH. HHH comes in, but then steps out of the ring and starts letting himself be counted out. Jericho smiles and dances around, broadly gesturing about how smart he is, and then HHH sneaks back in and nails him with a chair for the DQ. HHH is eliminated, Jericho is 1-1.

Main Event:
Samoa Joe challenges Jack Swagger and wins. Both guys are now 1-1.

SHOW 5

Low-ki starts off the show by challenging Sheamus to teach him not to bully smaller opponents. Sheamus says �you�re making a mistake fella� but Low-ki is like �Not the size of the dog yadda yadda.� Same style match as Danielson/Sheamus from Week 1 until Miz comes out and starts talking about how awesome he is. Sheamus gets distracted then charges Low-ki in the corner. Low-ki dodges and knocks Sheamus out with a brutal kick for the win. Sheamus is eliminated, Ki is 1-1.

Amazing Red challenges Chris Sabin and wins. Both are 1-1.

HHH asks Angle why he�s even in this tournament. �You�re an Olympic gold medalist, you�ve won almost as many championships as me, you don�t need to prove anything.� Angle disagrees and says �if you stop proving yourself and start living in the past, then you suck.�

Charlie Haas challenges Robert Roode and wins. Both are 1-1.

Alex Shelley challenges Evan Bourne and wins. Both are 1-1.

Main Event:
Doug Williams comes out and he�s disappointed that all the flippy little monkeys have had matches tonight and he won�t be able to teach them a lesson. On the other hand, it�s a good thing because now he can challenge someone he�s always admired�Kurt Angle. After a nice competitive match, Doug goes for the Chaos Theory but Kurt stops him midroll and somehow gets a pin. Postmatch, Angle offers his hand and Williams reluctantly accepts. Williams is eliminated, Angle is 2-0.

SHOW 6

AJ Styles comes out to crow about how nobody had the balls to challenge him. Cornette comes out and says that just means that he gets to pick AJ�s opponent and he picks Matt Morgan. AJ is apoplectic. Morgan wins to go to 2-0, AJ is 1-1.

Cena is disappointed that he didn�t have a match last week and that he disappointed the fans in week 1. He challenges HHH to a match, but HHH says �I fight for championships, or I don�t fight at all.� Cena looks crestfallen until Benjamin walks in and says he�ll fight him, and he�ll do it tonight in the main event.

MCMG vs Beer Money � MCMG wins.

Sheamus vs The Miz � No contest as they fight through the crowd.

Christy Hemme confronts Cornette and asks why there are no female wrestlers. Cornette says we don�t need �em. We�ve got a female announcer (Savannah), a female interviewer (Hemme), a female ref (Miss Tessmacher, why not?), some females in the makeup room and maybe we�ll even get some valets. This shows not about divas or knockouts, it�s about wrestlers. And wrestlers are men.

Benjamin vs Cena � Cena wins to go to 2-0, Shelton is 1-1.

SHOW 7

Time to start Round 3 of the tourney. Everyone who is 2-0 (Angle/Morgan/Cena/Danielson/Punk) have qualified to be at the PPV, but tonight they�ll be in a 10 man tag match against those who have been eliminated (Sheamus/Miz/Williams/Storm/HHH). As for the people who are 1-1, losers from last round get to pick their opponent.

Jericho picks Red, then mocks his size for a bit until Red kicks him in the head. In the end, Red goes for a standing shooting star but Jericho rolls under it, then locks him in the Walls for the win. Red is eliminated.

Morgan sees Cena in the back and tells him he didn't deserve to move on after that cheap victory over HHH.

Aries is about to pick his opponent when John Morrison comes out, points out that they need to have a rubber match. Aries agrees and says that�s why he chooses to fight J�J�Jack Swagger. Aries laughs but walks into a heel kick, followed by StarShip Pain, which lets Swagger run in and get the pin. Aries is eliminated.

Christy Hemme approaches Cornette and asks about whether women will be represented at the PPV. Of course not, he says, because they want to sell PPVs and women don�t sell them. Why pay $35 to see women wrestle when you can pay half as much and get something much better on the other channel?

AJ picks Evan Bourne and wins. Bourne is eliminated.

Robert Roode picks Charlie Haas and loses. Roode is eliminated.

Main Event:
Angle/Morgan/Cena/Danielson/Punk vs Sheamus/Miz/Williams/Storm/HHH � HHH immediately gets off the apron and walks back up the ramp. Angle and Williams start the match with a handshake. Eventually, Miz and Danielson get tagged in and Danielson goes to town on Miz. Miz goes for the tag on Sheamus but he jumps off the apron. Miz takes a step back, then quickly tags Storm and dives out of the ring onto Sheamus. They fight to the back as the match continues. Danielson eventually has to tag out to Morgan, who turns around and clocks Cena, but walks into a superkick from Storm and falls back to the corner where Danielson tags himself in. Danielson locks Cattle Mutilation onto Storm, but Punk reaches out and tags himself in then goes for the pin and only gets 2. Punk turns to Danielson and shrugs so Danielson jumps in and tackles him out of the ring. Everything�s out of control now, eventually ending in Cena giving Morgan the FU and letting Storm take the pin.

Show 8

Jim Cornette wants to show everyone that we�ve got a by-god tag division, but Beer Money�s the only tag team that�s been completely eliminated from the tourney. Amazing Red/Bourne come out and say they�ll take them on.

Beer Money defeat Amazing Red/Bourne.

Shelley picks Low-ki. Low-ki wins and eliminates Shelley.

Doug Williams approaches Kurt Angle in the back and thanks him for the fantastic competition over the past few weeks. He�s glad to see a real wrestler get to the top and hopes he wins the tourney.

Shelton Benjamin picks Sabin and wins. Sabin is eliminated.

Some hot chicks have started a picket line to get women wrestlers in the promotion. Foolishly, they are all wearing white shirts and Cornette turns the hose on them.

Cena/Danielson vs Punk/Morgan. Morgan pins Danielson with the Hellevator.

Morrison and Samoa Joe are the only ones left so they have to have a match. Joe wins a tough battle and eliminates Morrison.

SHOW 9

Cornette comes out and says this is it. We�re going to have 3 matches to find out who is going to join Morgan/Cena/Danielson/Punk/Angle at the PPV. Joe vs Low-ki, AJ vs Shelton Benjamin, and, since Cornette messed up the math, the final match will be a triple threat with Haas vs Swagger vs Jericho. Jericho comes out to yell at Cornette about how unfair it is but Cornette tells him to deal.

AJ vs Shelton Benjamin � AJ wins and qualifies.

Jericho runs into HHH in the back and complains. He says that he shouldn�t put up with this stuff because he�s like HHH and doesn�t need to earn his spot. HHH laughs, says �Yeah, right,� and walks away.

MCMG vs Red/Bourne � Red/Bourne win.

Joe vs Low-ki � Joe wins and qualifies.

Angle/Williams vs Sheamus/Aries � Williams hits Aries with the Chaos Theory for the win.

Jericho vs Swagger vs Haas � Jericho wins and qualifies

SHOW 10

Cornette comes out to run down the card for the PPV. First, we�re going to crown a tag team champion. It�s going to be a 4-way match with MCMG vs Red/Bourne/Beer Money/WGTT and it�s going to be a ladder match. Everyone else who was eliminated from the tournament (Aries/Morrison/Miz/Swagger/Low-ki/Williams/HHH/Sheamus) will compete for the TV title in a Survival-of-the-Fittest style match (elimination rules). As for the Heavyweight Championship of the world, that will be decided in a single elimination tournament. Christy Hemme comes out again to complain that there are no women wrestling at the PPV. Cornette says �Fine, fine, if it�ll shut you up. I mean, we�ve got a stacked card so we may as well get some stacked women. Besides, we�re going to need a piss break.�

Low-ki/Williams vs Swagger/Sheamus � Swagger/Williams start with a handshake. Miz interferes, allowing Ki to roll up Sheamus. Post match, Swagger watches while Sheamus takes out Ki, but interferes when he goes for Williams. Swagger/Sheamus stare down allowing Miz to slide in and hit the Facecrushing Finale on Sheamus.

Williams bumps into HHH in the back and says he�s always respected his cerebral approach and would be honored to have a match with him. HHH tells him to get a title or get lost.

WGTT vs Beer Money � WGTT win.

John Morrison comes out and calls out Aries for their rubber match. Cornette comes out and says �Great idea. This match is on.� Aries isn�t happy about it but he comes down to wrestle. After about 15 minutes, Aries lets himself get counted out. He grabs a mic and says he doesn�t have to prove he�s better than Morrison because everyone knows it, and he�s saving himself for the PPV. Morrison grabs a mic and says he�d better rest up because he�s not winning that title without going through Morrison.

Main Event:
Angle/Cena/Joe/Danielson vs Punk/Morgan/Jericho/AJ �Crazy shmozz at the end. Punk dodges a flying shoulder from Cena who crashes into Joe. Punk takes advantage and hits the GTS on Joe for the win. Cena tries to apologize but Joe will have none of it.

THE PPV

CM Punk defeats Brian Danielson

Samoa Joe defeats Matt Morgan

AJ Styles defeats Kurt Angle

John Cena defeats Chris Jericho

MCMG win the tag team titles in the 4-way ladder match

Samoa Joe defeats CM Punk

John Cena defeats AJ Styles

Survival of the Fittest Match � HHH immediately rolls out of the ring and goes to the announce table. They ask why he isn�t fighting and he says these guys aren�t worth my time etc. Occasionally he gets up and trips someone or somehow causes someone to be eliminated. Eventually we come down to just Morrison/Aries. They�re leery of HHH but eventually forget about him in the heat of the competition. After 10 minutes or so of 1-on-1 action and nearfalls, Morrison whips Aries to the ropes and HHH hits him with a chair. Morrison doesn�t notice and hits Starship Pain for the win. He celebrates and turns around into a pedigree. HHH is the new TV champ!

Hemme asks HHH why he didn�t compete harder for the heavyweight title and HHH says it doesn�t matter. Whatever title he has is the biggest title in the company. As far as he�s concerned, he�s the champ and the face of the company.

Cornette comes out and announces that it�s time for the women�s match that �everyone� was asking for. And the competitors are Velvet Sky and Angelina Love. But before they start, Cornette takes off his jacket, reveals that he�s the special referee of the match, and then checks the ladies for foreign objects. After patting down the ladies (lucky bastard), he rings the bell but then stops the match to announce that this is a Bra and Panties match. Velvet says she isn�t wearing panties and Cornette says �Well, then you better not lose.� He starts laughing until Awesome Kong�s music hits. She comes out and Cornette wets himself (literally). He tries to run but Velvet and Angelina hold him back. Kong whips him into the corner, gives him a stinkface (without hiking her shorts up) and then a Yokozuna Splash. All the women come out to celebrate.

Main Event:
John Cena vs Samoa Joe for the heavyweight title � Back and forth match with Joe taking the best that Cena can give him and dishing out some punishment. The announcers talk about how Cena has never fought anyone like Joe. Joe counters the STF into his own STF and Cena barely makes the ropes. Cena goes for the 5-knuckle shuffle but Joe pops up and hits the powerslam for 2. Eventually, Cena hits the FU but Joe pops right back up. Cena is stunned and terrified and eats some rapid-fire slaps. Cena counters an irish whip and catches Joe with a sleeper. Joe quickly counters and locks on the Kokina clutch but Cena scrambles for the ropes before Joe can get him on the mat. Cena rolls outside looking terrified. Joe gives him room to come back in and they lock up again. Cena picks up Joe for another FU but winds up knocking down the ref before hitting it. Cena doesn�t notice and goes for the pin anyway and Joe kicks out. The announcers say that kickout would have beat 3-count anyway and Cena is stunned. Suddenly, HHH runs out and throws a chair into the ring. Cena picks it up, looks at HHH, then looks at Joe, and then blasts Joe with a chairshot for the win. Cena is the heavyweight champion and a full-on heel!

FALLOUT

Obviously, I'm a workrate guy but I think there's some real nice storylines in here too.

Cena/HHH are now the new 2 Man Power Trip. They hold all the gold and consider each to be equally valuable. Others like Jericho/AJ try to prove their value and join the group but are rebuffed.

Sheamus/Miz hate each other but they also hate Danielson and Low-ki (who could also be a sweet tag team). Williams doesn�t like any of the cruiserweights, but he respects Swagger, WGTT, and Angle (who could form some kind of stable, like The Purists�I know I stole that�with Angle as the leader).

We�ve got Aries/Morrison as a big rivalry at the top of the midcard and a pissed off Samoa Joe and everyone else trying to take down the Power Trip.

I don�t know where the Women�s stuff would go but it cracks me up.

Also, I'd put in a ranking system for both titles. For the TV, it would be based on order of elimination in that match (so, Morrison/Aries would be #s 2 and 3) and then a losers bracket from the tourney to set the heavyweight ranks. 7 contenders in each division and TV title contenders can only move up and contend for the bigger belt after winning the TV title.

The rankings after each PPV based on win/loss and some vague =/- and strength of competition variable (which of course wouldn't really exist).

Thoughts?

[Edited on 5-26-2010 by theflammablemanimal]

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I liked your show..personally I like the idea of Shleton/AJ. As for my picks, a bit later in the game here and coping some other people's strategies..

Commentators: Joey Styles and a more heelish Taz(z)


GM: Sting

1. AJ Styles
2. Matt Morgan
3. The Miz
4. Chris Jericho
5. Big Show
6. Eric Young
7. Kurt Angle
8. Hernandez
9. John Cena
10. Edge
11. Tajiri
12. RVD
13. The Pope
14. Rhino
15. Desmond Wolfe

Tag Teams/Stables: (I know it's kind of a cheat to get some more people, but cohesive teams in the drafts were always counted as one..)

1. Lethal Consequences
2. Straight Edge Society
3. Beer Money
4. Hart Dynasty
5. Motor City Machine Guns

Divas: (Excluding Nattie and Serena, who would be considered part of HD and SES)

1. Beth Phoenix
2. Mickie James
3. Trish Stratus
4. Daffney
5. Lita

[Edited on 5-29-2010 by MayhemNX]





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