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Subject: NCAA College Football 2011- Revenge of the Conference Reallignment
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posted on 9-6-2011 at 02:35 AM
quote:Originally posted by williamssl
Just because you can wear an ugly uniform featuring your ugly state flag doesnt mean you should.
At least they've got 30 other designs to choose from, all of which I'm sure are just as lovely.
My alma mater looked really good against South Carolina the other night. For the first half at least. Then it all fell apart. Still, I guess time
will tell how bad it is for South Carolina that ECU was able to put up 37 on them.
Anyone who lets their hair grow below their ears to where I can't see their ears means they don't wash. If they don't wash, they
stink, and if they stink, I don't want the son-of-a-bitch around me.
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posted on 9-6-2011 at 08:55 PM
My weekly watch of potentially undefeated teams:
Alabama/LSU
Oklahoma
Boise State
Houston/Southern Miss
I'm saying right now, this is how Boise State gets screwed. Houston or Southern Miss goes unbetaen, so the bowl reps decide to put Bama/LSU vs.
Oklahoma together, and then try to convince people that Boise State vs. Houston is a marquee game. Screw that already.
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posted on 9-6-2011 at 09:29 PM
New
top 25
Nothing unexpected. Nice to see LSU jump Bama to #2. Boise at #4 is nice (although naturally Georgia dropped from the polls, because God forbid that
win look good for the Broncos). I'm still not buying Florida State as a top 5 team, but I guess we'll see soon enough. Oh, and TCU dropped
all the way down to #25, which seems really harsh considering they mounted a 24 point comeback and only lost by 2.
Slew of halfway decent games coming up this weekend:
Thursday- Arizona @ #9 Oklahoma State
Friday- #21 Missouri @ Arizona State (calling an upset for the Sun Devils here)
Saturday- #3 Alabama @ Penn State
#12 South Carolina @ Georgia (the best thing that could happen for Boise is for Georgia to win this game, and by the wider a margin the better)
BYU @ #24 Texas (probably won't be an upset, but BYU ought to give them a game)
Utah @ USC (I think the Utes make a run at winning the Pac 12)
Notre Dame @ Michigan (nobody wants to say it yet, but I think Brian Kelly's job is already on the line and if the Irish lose, he might want to
go ahead and call a real estate agent)
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posted on 9-7-2011 at 06:44 PM
Just saw the news on Texas A&M; being voted in by the SEC, and Baylor threatening a lawsuit if they leave. Does no one remember what happened to the
last conference that tried to house 16 teams?
Granted, it was the WAC (in 1996), but it instantly was viewed by most of the original members as too large, and those original members split off to
form the Mountain West.
So if the SEC, Pac-12 or even the ACC goes to 16 teams (or even 14), how do they schedule? You only have 12 games, so you can't play every
conference opponent even if you wipe out the non-conference schedule. That wipes out a lot of inter- and intra-state rivalries that makes college
football great.
For example, in the SEC, would we no longer get Florida/Georgia every year? And if we do, does that mean Florida/Florida State and Georgia/Georgia
Tech is history? Nebraska is a perfect example of the lost rivalries. Nebraska/Oklahoma use to be a huge end-of-season game, then it was lost to the
Big 12 expansion. Then Nebraska/Colorado became a decent rivalry, and now that's history.
I think that BYU might be on the right track, that independence might be the best road. A team like Texas could do it as well. It's not for
everyone, but a big market thhat can either get a TV contract or create it's own network can create a 70s Notre Dame-type vibe and compete for a
national title by scheduling all the big teams without the confines of a conference schedule.
Of course the drawback to that is if all the other teams are in 16-team conferences and have no room to schedule an independent, who does Notre Dame
and BYU play?
Bottom line: These huge conferences are not going to work because the fgootball season is too short to create a meaningful schedule year after year.
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posted on 9-7-2011 at 10:13 PM
Conference USA has managed to do it for a long period of time.
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posted on 9-7-2011 at 10:56 PM
7 games against the team in your half of a conference. 2 rivalry games against a school in the other half of a conference. 1 or 2 games against random
teams in other half of a conference. 1-3 out of conference games...no 1-AA or anything like that.
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posted on 9-8-2011 at 04:40 AM
Conference USA has 12 teams. And because of the schedule, Houston, Southern Miss and Tulsa may all be undefeated in conference going into the final
week of the season.
The MAC has 13 teams, yet the fourth-best team will probably play in the title game.
The SEC this year will probably have a championship game featuring an unbeaten No. 1 or No. 2 team (Bama or LSU) against a Georgia team that only gets
there because they don't play Alabama, LSU or Arkansas in the regular season (or South Carolina, which doesn't play Alabama or LSU).
That's just this season.
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posted on 9-8-2011 at 03:22 PM
I'm not a fan of A&M; (or any other team) joining the SEC. There's really no tradition between them (except maybe with Arkansas, Chris? I
don't know for sure), and it's not like the SEC is starving for teams or anything. I can't believe how the Big 12 is just falling
apart like this (even though Oklahoma has an open road to the title if they can beat Florida State).
There's a good article on Yahoo right now about Baylor suing to block the move, except that Baylor had no issue with leaving the Southwest
Conference high and dry years ago. You know who the president of Baylor is now? Ken Starr. Go figure.
EDIT:
Re: all the SEC hate, this might be the year to pile on. The conference, imo, is very weak this year. The only two really good teams are Alabama and
LSU (and possibly Arkansas). Auburn and Florida are rebuilding, Georgia is always vastly overrated, South Carolina seems flawed, and
Tennessee will be terrible for the next ten years. This year, someone else wins the title.
[Edited on 9-8-2011 by denverpunk]
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posted on 9-9-2011 at 07:45 PM
I agree with Denver that the SEC is weak this year. Yet they're good enough that Alabama or LSU will be unbeaten. And with Oklahoma probably
going unbeaten (yes, you know where this is going...) that leaves Boise State out in the cold. This year they may be the BEST team in the national,
not just ONE OF the best teams, and still get screwed. Holy hell, Georgia will probably win their side of a weak SEC division, and somehow voters will
make an argument that Georgia sucks and Boise doesn't deserve to be in the title game.
Meanwhile, Houston or Southern Miss will go unbeaten and probably not even get to a BCS bowl because Notre Dame will sneak ahead of them for some
idiotic reason that even I haven't figured out yet. And then let's just suppose Stanford wins at Oregon and at USC and goes unbeaten. What
then? Now we have FIVE unbeaten teams.
How many years have I screamed for a 16-team playoff here and at Pun's? This is the year we really need it.
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posted on 9-9-2011 at 10:19 PM
SEC Safety Rules
That's an article over on EDSBS tearing each SEC fanbase apart by coming up with fake stadium rules. It's a hilarious read and of course,
is an idea open to expansion. Some of the commenters have added their ideas, which I'll recount below, but I think we can do just as well.
Michigan Stadium
- Do not jingle keys within 20 feet of Brady Hoke. He sees this as a challenge.
- DOWN IN FRONT.
- University Police are on hand to curtail unruly behavior. Unruly behavior includes, but is not limited to: standing, clapping, cheering, yelling,
using four letter words other than �darn,� speaking of the years 2007-2010, being born after 1970, or not knowing when deer season is.
- That slice of the stadium filled with loud, bouncing, energetic young folk in yellow? They�re students. Pay no attention to them, the noise they
make or their attempts to get into the game. David Brandon insists that they cannot be moved any farther from the field without cause for litigation.
You may have to simply sit on your seat and ignore them. We apologize for the inconvenience.
Ohio Stadium
- All projectiles hurled at opposing fans must weigh no less than 2 pounds.
- Please vomit in the aisles. That�s what they are there for.
- You may present your ticket stub to stadium staff for your �complementary� tattoo after halftime.
Notre Dame Stadium
- No Poors Allowed.
- Failure to monitor your Northwestern Mutual account on your smart phone during Northwestern Mutual commercial breaks will result in ejection from
the stadium.
- Stay at least 50 feet away from Coach Kelly at all times. Seriously.
Camp Randall Stadium
- Please stop feeding Ron Dayne.
- Don�t leave beer bottles unattended; Coach Bielema's obsession with �leaving no wounded soldiers behind� will distract him from the game.
California Memorial Stadium
- Please do not feed the hippies hanging out in the trees.
- Please smoke weed in only the designated areas of the stadium.
- Never wear red into the stadium. Red turns the students into wild animals and you could possibly get hurt.
Sun Life Stadium
- One firearm per person. (This will not be enforced.)
- The hookers in the courtesy area are for players and recruits only.
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posted on 9-9-2011 at 11:27 PM
those were fun. Here's mine for UVa:
Scott Stadium
Do not push the one person ahead of you in line for tickets
When the Cavalier falls off his horse in the intro, DO NOT help him up. It's the only way he'll learn.
Please give up your seat to a Virginia Tech fan if needed. They actually care.
DO NOT jump over the top of the stadium, no matter how bad they're playing.
If you see George Welsh, hire him.
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posted on 9-10-2011 at 03:06 AM
quote:Originally posted by denverpunk
I'm not a fan of A&M; (or any other team) joining the SEC. There's really no tradition between them (except maybe with Arkansas, Chris? I
don't know for sure), and it's not like the SEC is starving for teams or anything. I can't believe how the Big 12 is just falling
apart like this (even though Oklahoma has an open road to the title if they can beat Florida State).
Yeah, there's a pretty lukewarm rivalry there from the old days of the SWC but all of the real hate is reserved for Texas. Most of that hate is
now geared toward LSU, although to be perfectly honest LSU is the only other SEC team besides Arkansas that I really like, which makes me something of
a giant gaping asshole to most Hogs fans I know.
I'm pretty meh about A&M; to the SEC, but more for geographical reasons. Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, and/or Miami are all much better
fits.
quote:
There's a good article on Yahoo right now about Baylor suing to block the move, except that Baylor had no issue with leaving the Southwest
Conference high and dry years ago. You know who the president of Baylor is now? Ken Starr. Go figure.
Fuck Baylor. Crybabies.
quote:
Re: all the SEC hate, this might be the year to pile on. The conference, imo, is very weak this year. The only two really good teams are Alabama and
LSU (and possibly Arkansas). Auburn and Florida are rebuilding, Georgia is always vastly overrated, South Carolina seems flawed, and
Tennessee will be terrible for the next ten years. This year, someone else wins the title.
God, I want Penn State to upset Bama soooooooooo bad. I know it isn't going to happen, but I can hope. LSU has an absurdly good defense but Les
Miles is completely insane and is going to end up costing them a game somewhere. Possibly against Bama, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get
stunned by someone like Auburn that has no business beating them. Arkansas should be really good, but they won't beat Bama and I
don't know if they'll beat LSU. 10 wins, which is nothing to sneeze at. Mississippi State is a lot better than people realize and should
win 8 or 9. The rest of the conference is rebuilding, mediocre, or terrible.
I'm watching Mizzou-AZ State right now, and the Sun Devils offense looks pretty solid. They might be one of the more underrated teams in the
game right now.
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posted on 9-12-2011 at 05:10 PM
In case the HTML didn't work, as I have no idea how to just post a Youtube video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJxHA4ONhkI
Why Don't You Put Out an APB - an Ask Pam Beesly!
So the pop culture zeitgeist of this shitty age I find myself living in doesn't just compel me to love these piggish oafs, but I now also
have to admit that they're the equivalent to hard-working people who've earned legitimate acting careers? Fuck that noise, junior. -
Paddlefoot
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posted on 9-18-2011 at 09:18 PM
So, it looks like the Big East is gonna lose football.
Pitt and Cuse to the ACC and UConn wants to go as well. TCU, I have to assume had some assurance that the conference wouldn't get gutted and I
could see them looking for another conference. If that happens, I wouldn't be surprised if Rutgers and West Virginia went to the Big 10.
Also, the Big 12 is dead as Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State look to be Pac-16 bound.
If we're doing the 16 team super conferences, I could see it looking something like this:
Pac-16 - USC, UCLA, Arizona, ASU, Oregon, OSU, Stanford, Colorado, Washington, WSU, Cal, Utah, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Ok State
SEC - Auburn, Bama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, Tennessee, Miss St. Ole Miss, Vandy, South Carolina, Kentucky, Arkansas, A&M;, and then they need 3 new
schools (Lousiville, South Florida, Cincinnati, TCU, Iowa State, Miami and FSU are options)
ACC - Duke, UNC, NC State, Georgia Tech, Wake, BC, Miami, FSU, Virginia, Va Tech, Maryland, Clemson, Pitt, Syracuse, and 2 more schools (UConn, South
Florida, South Carolina, Louisville, East Carolina, Memphis, Marshall, among others are options)
Big 10 - Michigan, MSU, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Minn, Iowa, Indiana, Nebraska, Northwestern, Illinois, Penn State, Purdue, and 4 new schools (Rutgers,
Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Notre Dame, Cincinnati, Louisville, Marshall, West Virginia, among many options)
And then a New Major Conference with Boise State, Hawaii, BYU, SDSU, New Mexico, and any schools not put into the above 4 conferences.
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SEC - Auburn, Bama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, Tennessee, Miss St. Ole Miss, Vandy, South Carolina, Kentucky, Arkansas, Texas A&M;, West Virginia, (two of
Missouri, the Kansases)
ACC - Duke, UNC, NC State, Georgia Tech, Wake, BC, Miami, FSU, Virginia, Va Tech, Maryland, Clemson, Pitt, Syracuse, UConn, (one of East Carolina,
Louisville, etc)
But it appears the B1G is going to sit on their laurels, fat and happy with merely picking up Nebraska, and just gobble up fucking Rutgers and
Missouri when the SEC/Pac-16 expansion happens.
Delany should be on his knees to get Texas-Oklahoma here and instead they're apparently creating idiotic trophies and finding ways to use all
the entries under 'iconic' in their thesaurus.
[Edited on 9-19-2011 by Qonas]
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posted on 9-19-2011 at 12:50 AM
Big Ten can only get teams that border on the states of existing members. So to get Oklahoma or Oklahoma State, they would have to get Missouri,
Kansas or Kansas State
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posted on 9-19-2011 at 12:52 AM
Yeah, the whole expansion thing is starting to turn into a giant headache. Pitt and Cuse add little to the ACC's football prestige but those are
monster adds to an already stout basketball conference.
Anybody else watch the Oklahoma-FSU game last night? Two great defenses, but Oklahoma got lucky that FSU's starting QB got knocked out, because
I think the Noles had them on the ropes. Also, that hit on Kenny Shaw was absolutely sickening and I was with a half dozen other people and we all
thought he literally might have been dead.
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posted on 9-19-2011 at 11:26 PM
According to ESPN's news crawl, the Big East and the Big Twelve are discussing a merger if/when Texas and Oklahoma leave. For football, it
would still suck as the best team I guess would be Louisville or West Virginia. But for basketball, that would put them at 19-20 teams depending on
if Oklahoma can convince the Pac to take Oklahoma St for whatever reason. A basketball conference with Kansas, Missouri, Louisville, Marquette,
UConn, Georgetown, Villanova, St. John's? I'm cool with that.
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posted on 9-20-2011 at 12:05 AM
All I ask is that a Big East/Big XII merger adopt Boise. And maybe Nevada. That's all I ask.
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posted on 9-20-2011 at 04:19 PM
That's the thing for me. Once all of these 'superconferences' pop-up, the Boise States and UCFs of the world are going to be even
more fucked than they already are -- unless if a playoff system gets implemented (which it won't).
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posted on 9-20-2011 at 05:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
All I ask is that a Big East/Big XII merger adopt Boise. And maybe Nevada. That's all I ask.
it's bad enough that the Big East is already adding TCU. Adding Boise and Nevada would be ridiculous. I mean, how much sense would it make for
Boise to travel to UConn for a game? (that is, if UConn doesn't bolt for the ACC)
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posted on 9-20-2011 at 05:25 PM
Agreed. Boise and Nevada should join the Pac-16 or whatever the hell it's gonna be. Those two schools make more sense than Texas and Oklahoma.
And it'd be nice for Boise to be in a conference like that where we won't have to hear all the, "they're only in the WAC hurr
hurr" talk from all the idiots.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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posted on 9-20-2011 at 06:13 PM
this could be a fun breakdown of the conferences so we could get 8 mega divisions:
Football Super Conference East - Division 1
1. Wake Forrest
2. Florida State
3. Maryland
4. Clemson
5. NC State
6. Boston College
7. Pittsburgh
8. Syracuse
1. North Carolina
2. Duke
3. Georgia Tech
4. Virginia Tech
5. Virginia
6. Miami
7. UConn
8. South Florida
Football Super Conference North - Division 1
1. Wisconsin
2. Illinois
3. Purdue
4. Ohio State
5. Penn State
6. Indiana
7. Notre Dame
8. Cincinnati
1. Nebraska
2. Michigan
3. Iowa
4. Michigan State
5. Northwestern
6. Minnesota
7. Rutgers
8. West Virginia
Football Super Conference South - Division 1
1. South Carolina
2. Florida
3. Vanderbilt
4. Kentucky
5. Tennessee
6. Georgia
7. Missouri
8. Kansas
1. LSU
2. Auburn
3. Arkansas
4. Alabama
5. Ole Miss
6. Mississippi State
7. Texas A&M;
8. Kansas State
Football Super Conference West - Division 1
1. Stanford
2. Cal
3. Oregon
4. Washington State
5. Washington
6. Oregon State
7. Oklahoma State
8. Oklahoma
1. USC
2. Arizona State
3. UCLA
4. Colorado
5. Utah
6. Arizona
7. Texas
8. Boise State
Football Super Conference East - Division II
1. Florida International
2. Louisiana Lafayette
3. Arkansas State
4. Louisiana Monroe
5. Troy
6. Florida Atlantic
7. Western Kentucky
8. North Texas
Football Super Conference West - Division II
1. Colorado State
2. San Diego State
3. Wyoming
4. UNLV
5. Air Force
6. New Mexico
7. BYU
8. Nevada
1. Utah State
2. Louisiana Tech
3. Hawaii
4. Fresno St.
5. Idaho
6. New Mexico State
7. San Jose State
8. Montana*
* or whatever teams are ready to make the jump from 1-AA to 1-A)
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posted on 9-20-2011 at 06:53 PM
quote:Originally posted by Qonas
This is really how it should go:
Big 10 - Notre Dame
Notre Dame is never joining a conference for football. They have their own TV Deal with NBC. Why would they want to make less money when sharing TV
revenue in a conference?
And in basketball? Who cares if they leave the Big East? Notre Dame is the Midwest version of Gonzaga.
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posted on 9-20-2011 at 06:58 PM
so, let ND keep their tv money, its not like it is helping them any, they still suck. When that deal expires, we will see if they get another
lucrative deal (they probably will since people still seem to think ND matters) but with a 16 team superconference like that, fuck it, let them have
the NBC money, but then they don't get a slice of the College Football Super Conference North Network money
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