Nikhil
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I am also just confused. I had reckoned Truth and Miz will help Punk make the pin. But then, Truth breaks the pin afterwards (maybe because Punk beat
him), but still it doesn't make an iota of sense. John Lauranitis was shown texting as if we should all get the signal. But everyone knew Nash
was coming back. And what was the deal with Punk saving HHH from Nash? Nash was gonna come after Punk after beating out HHH anyway, so Punk should
have just waited til then and try to give him a beating. But then again I am thinking logically, my apologies, WWE.
I generally never criticise WWE harshly, but today's PPV was complete BS. There were so many time-wasting segments and self-promotion ads. I
feel for those who bought this. WWE should give their money back AND give them HIAC out for free, which by the way is freakin ONLY two weeks away?
Whats up with that?
Exit perplexed mode.
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G-Spot
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And in response to FistHiccups...
I enjoyed the 4-Way match too. Some good back & forth, that sets up more for Swagger/Dolph/Vicki in the future.
But I disagree with the HHH/Punk, but only with the ending. I was into the match up until that over-booked/cluster (IMO) ending. The brawling around
the stands and stage was great, but could have used some blood, since it was an all-over-the-place match that was supposed to be personal (Curse you
PG-WWE!). I think HHH & Punk matched up well, and that "HOLY SHIT!" elbow from the top rope to the table was pretty amazing!
And I agree with Henry winning. And not just that Orton lost clean. I think Henry can be used to to a good degree even though he is somewhat limited
in the ring. having a powerhouse keep the title can make for some interesting defenses against the right opponents.
[Edited on 9-19-2011 by G-Spot]
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punkerhardcore
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The recap made it seem like Henry dominated the hell out of Orton, especially at the end. I love that Orton finally lost clean, and damned if
I'm not really into Henry as the current World Champion.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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Paddlefoot
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A thoroughly baffling schmozz really shouldn't be all that unexpected coming out of any No DQ Match. Besides, it stacks more ammunition in
Punk's corner that the system really is out to get him. Worked great for Austin during his rise and it should hopefully work just as well for
Punk.
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DudeLove721
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quote:
Originally posted by FistHiccups
quote:
Originally posted by DudeLove721
I'm really scratching my head now. This is the reason they short-circuited the Cena/Punk feud that was red hot and getting people back into
wrestling?
It wasn't getting people back into wrestling. It was getting people on the Internet talking more. The ratings and buyrates weren't
skyrocketing. Plus how many times could they do Cena vs Punk without overexposing it? They already had the match three times in the last two months,
and they weren't really even feuding with each other as much as Punk was feuding with WWE brass.
This train of thought doesn't make sense to me. Just because buyrates and ratings didn't immediately skyrocket, WWE was within their
rights to stop trying again? Punk was getting buzz going and the way I see it, that's a lot better than the radio silence that's occured
from lapsed fans for the past decade. Cena was more tolerable than he has been in years and they flushed it all down the toilet for this convoluted
mess and the status quo as usual with Cena regaining his title tonight.
If crowd response had been fading (like it has been since they ended the Punk/Cena feud btw) while Punk/Cena were in the ring, I'd agree with
you about over-exposure. Fans still seemed perfectly fine with shelling out more cash for another match between the two at least. I could be
misreading it myself but I don't know...
I do know several people in my own circle of friends who had given up on WWE and came back because of this stuff with Cena and Punk though. I also
know that I'm not the only one who has said this so people somewhere were at least paying attention again -- how is that bad? WWE didn't
win the ratings war overnight so why would they be able to repair a decade of shit overnight too? It takes time and giving up because it isn't
happening fast enough is kind of stupid.
You know how reliable that coked-up sack of gay is.
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DudeLove721
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quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
A thoroughly baffling schmozz really shouldn't be all that unexpected coming out of any No DQ Match. Besides, it stacks more ammunition in
Punk's corner that the system really is out to get him. Worked great for Austin during his rise and it should hopefully work just as well for
Punk.
They need to be careful, I've felt over the past few weeks that's starting to come across like a whiney bitch. He needs to stop
complaining about conspiracies, accusing people and just do what he's supposed to be the best in the world at doing. Austin worked because he
stuck it to authority but he never complained... I hope Punk will stop hitting the same notes about Steph making HHH her bitch, how (despite all
evidence to show otherwise) HHH is out to get him, etc. If Nash can't wrestle, maybe we're moving into a HHH/Punk Vs. Awesome Truth (Get
Awesome?) match at HiaC. *shrugs*
You know how reliable that coked-up sack of gay is.
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cardscott5
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The tag match was getting good, then the ref called a tag for Air Boom when Bourne just clapped his hands, missed a tag for Awesome Truth, and then
missed a cover when Miz had Bourne pinned. I understand the freak out on the ref. It was more a storyline match than ppv match though.
Rhodes/DiBiase was a solid match. The crowd did not help it at all. I liked the finish of how Ted went to use the mask, and Cody outsmarted him.
The US title match had a lot of action, the Morrison german suplex on Riley, then Swagger doing the Angle toss of Ziggler was a cool spot. I really
thought Riley had the belt won. I kind of thought that was how the match would end, so that was a let down.
Henry/Orton was a little better than I thought it would be. I liked the end, how Orton climbed up Henry and thought he was gonna hit the RKO and win.
It played off nicely with the Cutting Edge segment from SD. Henry winning clean was surprising. I like where Henry is going overall, but the fact Mark
Henry is the champion makes me go bleh though.
Don't know why Phoenix didn't win. The crowd was behind a woman for the first time in years, and she jobs clean again. Don't get it.
Cena/Del Rio was ruined by Cena winning the fucking belt clean again. ADR being a transitional champ helps no one, and makes him seem like a punk.
Sheamus, Punk, Mysterio, Swagger, and now Del Rio in the Hall of Fame of horrible title runs their first time as champion. I don't count
Christian, since he didn't have the belt long enough to have a run.
Punk/HHH was going really well until the overbooked bullshit. It would have been much, much better if Truth and Miz ran out, laid them out, and left.
That would have made sense from a storyline and motivation perspective. Instead, Truth puts Punk on HHH, then minutes later costs Punk the match. It
also didn't help every move HHH did to Punk after that was the pedigree, but it was cool when Punk kicked out. For something so overbooked, it
still made Punk look like a chump.
The show was going nicely until the last two matches threw it off the tracks. It could have been another solid show, like Capital Punishment, but
instead, it was the worst ppv in a run where I think WWE has put on some good shows ppv wise this year. Disappointing.
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carlitos coconut
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411 has a poll running on which decision at NOC was the worst, options being:
Kelly Kelly retains
Cena wins
Mark Henry wins
Punk loses
I find it extremely disconcerting that Mark Henry winning is by far the lowest percentage. I find it even more disconcerting that I totally agree with
that. This is what you've done to me, WWE.
Life's like a movie, write your own ending, keep believing, keep pretending- The Muppets
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the goon
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Didn't see the show, but some thoughts:
-I really hate Kelly Kelly going over Beth yet again. Completely head-scratching to me.
-At any point in the last 15 years I would have been completely apathetic/disappointed in Henry winning the belt, but I do have to admit this current
monster heel run is going really well for him. After 15 years of service (and having to be in the Mae Young storyline), I guess I'm okay with
the guy getting the world title for a couple of months. And Orton losing cleanly is surprising...I was just asking a week or two ago when the last
time was that Orton actually lost a one on one match cleanly. Though it does kind of suck to see Christian be Orton's personal job boy for the
last few months, only for Henry to go over clean in their first match.
-Don't really get Cena winning the belt back already either, but the Del Rio haters should be happy (well, outside of the fact that it was Cena
who took the belt off of him). Cena should be up to 100 title reigns in the next few years.
-I would be fully okay with some kind of Laurinaitis/Miz/Truth/Nash alliance, if that's the direction they're going. Otherwise, I
have no idea what happens tomorrow night, outside of the fact we'll probably be getting some kind of uneasy Triple H/Punk alliance.
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DevilSoprano
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I've waited...
I've seen...
WWE fucked this story up to an obscene degree.
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Thom
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
Wow, that main event sounds overbooked and non-sensical. Glad I skipped this shit
QFMFT
Falcons: 35
Eagles: 31*
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ThePunisher
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quote:
Originally posted by FistHiccups
Excellent show.
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Love the Cena and Kelly wins
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Henry has been incredible for the last few months, awesome to see him rewarded with a major title. Well-deserved.
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And the main event was pretty awesome.
I knew we had some WWE fanboys on OO, but HOLY SHIT!
[Edited on 9-19-2011 by ThePunisher]
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blowjob from Richard the Lionheart. ~Devineman 07/12/2011
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TonyTH
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I lurk, but I wanted to say I agree with most sentiments.
However my favorite part of the night that went unmentioned was the ref hitting Miz. Even if he got crap kicked out of him afterwards. Was still
awesome. Way to go, ref. You're my favorite now.
Also, Cena's match opener? Did...did he diss himself to get himself over?...Can...can you do that?
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Froggie
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Good show last night! The biggest surprise was Henry beating Orton clean...I don't think anyone saw that coming!! Cena beating Del Rio before
the Mexico tour was also unexpected. The match was very good...the crowd reactions Cena gets are amazing! Half the crowd is for him and half the
crowd is against him. It's awesome!! And WWE continued their trend of jobbing people out in their hometowns with Ben Pheonix losing to Kelly
Kelly. Go WWE!! I didn't see Air Boom vs. the Miz and R-Truth but looking at the wrestlers involved I'm sure that was good too.
HHH vs. CM Punk was a good match despite all of the interference that occurred...I guess they felt they had to do the overbooking because they
didn't want a clear cut finish because it was way too early for the match in the first place. Punks Randy Savage elbow from the top rope to the
announce table was awesome!! I'd say that was the spot of the night. However, the announcing left a lot to be desired...Jerry Lawler described
it as a SUICIDE LEAP~! I guess he can't tell the difference between a flying elbow drop and a suicide dive. God I miss JR...he would have said
something to the effect of "That was a great Randy Savage-like flying elbow from CM Punk!!"
Thumbs up for the in-ring...Swagger is US champ!!
"...Best There Ever Will Be!!"
-When WWE jobbed first time WWE World Heavyweight Champion Christian out to Randy Orton and turned him heel when he (Christian) was arguably the most
over babyface on the roster and having great matches with everyone on the card, it was at that exact moment that WWE jumped the shark!!
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Joeldacat
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quote:
Originally posted by Froggie
God I miss JR...he would have said something to the effect of "That was a great Randy Savage-like flying elbow from CM Punk!!"
Thumbs up for the in-ring...Swagger is US champ!!
King did say something like "That was just... Savage!" which was subtle.
Swagger isn't champ. Ziggler is.
And that main event left me cursing the WWE. TNA-style finish! Yay!
That stip shouldn't have happened in the first place. The interferences didn't follow any real logic, and while I should be happy Punk
kicked out a pedigree- joining a short list which probably only includes Foley and Undertaker to do so- they still took a hot character and made him
HHH's bitch. That Punk has gotten no real physical retaliation on Nash at this point is maddening.
I went from super-excited, to "let's see where this goes," to "I can no longer endorse this crap to non-fans" last night. Even if it comes
around, it's still typical wrestling power-struggle BS.
X-Box Live: Mr Whale Jr. Message me who you are, though!
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theflammablemanimal
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Wait, did they keep JR off another ppv?
Can't believe Orton destroyed Punk and Christian, couldn't give ether of them one win, but jobs cleanly to Mark Henry.
Beth has nothing now, unless they run some angle where she has gained respect for Kelly Kelly. Which would be awful.
The first undisputed OO draft champion of the world
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Katie Vick killer
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quote:
Originally posted by the goon
Don't really get Cena winning the belt back already either, but the Del Rio haters should be happy (well, outside of the fact that it was Cena
who took the belt off of him). Cena should be up to 100 title reigns in the next few years.
I'm not a ADR hater, but I don't really care for him. Winning via MITB and then losing the belt on his first defence does make him look
like a total chicken shit heel and not a main event player. Cena doesn't need the belt, and ADR needs the rub!
That HHH kid did well for only his second match of the year.
[Edited on 19/9/2011 by Katie Vick killer]
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Frank Lloyd Wright
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Cena going over ADR seems like a panic move to me. They saw the RAW ratings crashing these last couple of weeks and think that the end all-cure all
is putting the belt back on Cena. It really leaves you shaking your head the way the WWE has botched the title reigns of these young up-and
-comers.
Whether you like Mark Henry being the World Champ or not, the WWE handled his build-up well. Color me shocked if they didn't give him the damn
belt and in a clean fashion!!
I never thought for a second that the Miz/Truth interference had anything to do with aligning themselves with Punk. It proved itself true when they
didn't allow Punk to get the pin. The only positive at the end of this clusterfuck, is that it gives Punk more ammo against HHH and his so
called undermining intentions.
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punkerhardcore
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It seems so weird to me that there's a certain subset of the fanbase that will actually stop watching just because someone is no longer the
champion. Are they so stupid to think that that Cena won't be on Raw anymore if he doesn't have the belt? He's still-- and will be
until the day he retires-- one of the mail focal points of the show.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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theflammablemanimal
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Besides making Del Rio look like a bitch, they also changed his character for no reason. This is a guy who once walked up to Kane, slapped the urn out
of his hands FOR NO REASON, and then dared him to do something about it. But now that he was the champ, he has to be a chickenshit and run from
Cena.
Dumb.
The first undisputed OO draft champion of the world
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TommyD420
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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quote:
Originally posted by Thom
Falcons: 35
Eagles: 31*
*Copyright TommyD420, 2011.
To be fair, it was a really good game. Maybe not the best played, but Philly comes from 11 down to go up 10, then Atlanta scores 14 to go ahead
late.
Plus Vick got killed. Win-win.
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blackdragon
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Been loving Mark Henry since his days as ECW champ so I'm digging that Orton got his ass kicked and his wig split. I hope he reigns for at
least until the Rumble. My only question is, will there be peace now?
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punkerhardcore
The Man
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This will be a shock to absolutely nobody. From Lords of Pain--
quote:
- After Triple H decked Kevin Nash with a sledgehammer in the main event at Night of Champions, Michael Cole, who had lost his voice, was seen
writing something on a piece of paper and showing it to Jerry Lawler. Lawler then showed the paper to members of the WWE crew who then ran to the
backstage area.
After the main event, Nash stayed on the floor until someone came from the back to tend to him. The "X" symbol was thrown up and other officials
came to check on Nash, even Jerry Lawler. Nash finally staggered to his feet and was helped to the back by officials.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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JB KING
 
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Oh God! It's like Obama all over again!!
Mom I don't feel safe, am I going to be raped?
Two time Winner for 2010 Breakthrough Poster of the Year Award. You read that right.
XBL Gamertag: JB KING
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Quentil
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Just out of curiousity, how much of the RAW ratings drop can be attributed to monday night football being back on?
[Edited on 9-19-2011 by Quentil]
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