drmuerto
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Someone needs to adopt the Heart Punch.
Also the Garvin Stomp.
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Beer Baron
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-No one has used The Tequilla Sunrise submission since Konnan in WCW. That was a cool variation of a half crab. Or his 187, bearhug into a DDT. I
think Colt Cabana used it a while ago.
-Diamond Dust: Only person I've seen do it during matches as a finisher was Masato Tanaka. Don't know if any other wrestlers use it.
-Has anyone recently used Ron Simmons/Farooq's Dominator?
-Kanyon's Flatliner always looked great and legit. I know R Truth, Shelton, Scott Steiner used variations of the move, but nobody was better
than Kanyon.
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lz4005
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| posted on 9-26-2011 at 03:58 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by drmuerto
Someone needs to adopt the Heart Punch.
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Also the Garvin Stomp.
Besides Orton?
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theflammablemanimal
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I think Lashley is last to use the Dominator, though Otunga uses Farooqs other finisher.
Didn't Sharkboy use diamond dust? I think moves that rely on the top rope (besides actual top rope moves like a frogsplash) don't work
very well because the set up is so tough.
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Chris Is Good517
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quote:
Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
Didn't Sharkboy use diamond dust? I think moves that rely on the top rope (besides actual top rope moves like a frogsplash) don't work
very well because the set up is so tough.
The Diamond Dust is an awesome finisher. I also really like Spike Dudley's Acid Drop and its fraternal twin, the Sliced Bread #2
Gee, I wish I was still alive- LuckyLopez R.I.P.
Michele Bachmann thinks that blacks were better off as
slaves
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Wickedfrost
I LOVE RVD 
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Add me to the Cross-Faced Chicken Wing crew.
Stay wet my friends.
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joerizal
Showstopper 
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With that said, all neck based offense look like winners to me. Everybody knows that it doesn't take much to injure a neck.
The
problem I have/had was there was a period in WWE when 3 or 4 wrestlers had a swinging neckbreaker-variant as a finisher, which wouldn't happen
if the E would be more lax in their move-banning, or if the wrestlers were allowed more originality. To wit, these moves were: Morrison's
Moonlight Drive, Miz's Mizard of Oz, Kenny Dykstra's tap-the-toe-twice swinging neckbreaker, Mike Knox's Knox Out, etc. Not 100%
sure about the concurrency of their appearances though, but I think it was pretty close. Not to mention the multiple uranage finishers: Kozlov, Zeke,
Otunga.
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A superplex used to be a match ender, now its a routine move in a Diva's match!
C'mon, man. They (Divas) used it one time on
a PPV Championship match. I will concede that it occurs more frequently in men's matches.
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Perhaps something like a combination Slingshot Suplex/Gordbuster
Rob Conway (aka "best entrance theme ever") used a nice Slingshot
Suplex/Neckbreaker combo called the "Ego Trip". And Kevin Thorn used a Slingshot/Stunner combo called "Original Sin", which wasn't as fluid
but was effective nonetheless.
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Someone really needs to steal the Jackhammer!
Yeah. This is one of the moves I had in mind for this thread. It's (relatively)
safe, it's devastating, it's identifiable as a finisher.
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Richie Steamboat will be the next wrestler to use the Superkick as his finisher.
Doesn't Tyler Black/Seth Rollins also use a
kneeling Superkick as a finisher?
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Goldust's Final Cut twisting suplex was solid and could be used
That works. It looks wrestling-y too, instead of just a strike
(e.g. Roaring Elbow) which looks more MMA-y. I'd like to see someone use the hiptoss-into-a-neckbreaker too, although as a transition move
instead of a finisher.
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Didn't Shane Douglas use a Uranage hold only dropping to his knees in a version of a stunner
"The Franchiser". But, again, IMO,
not finisher-credible. I liked the Pittsburgh Plunge (Fisherman Buster) better.
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Does anyone in WWE use a frog splash? How much heel heat of Vickie gets someone to turn & join her faction & then started using
it?
Damn. Fucking genius. Dolph should use this. The heat would be off-the-fucking-charts.
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Speaking of the Wasteland, Kennedy used to do a top rope version of it (I forget what it they called it, but it was a mix of a Wasteland and
Swanton Bomb).
"Green Bay Plunge".
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I'd also love to see a big man like Brodus Clay use the stretch muffler.
That's the "Brock Lock", right? The visual works.
And it fits Brodus' dominant monster persona: a bigman having you hanging by the leg.
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And somebody should start using Carlito's lungblower again.
del Rio uses it sparingly. He used it at Night of Champions against
Cena. And I think Primo (yes, he's still employed) uses it as a finisher. But again, alluding to your Tyson Kidd remark, if a tree falls in the
forest..
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And Truth occasionally does an Osaka Cutter, which is like a suplex into a stunner but I don't think he's ever won with
it.
I'm continually baffled by Truth's choice of finisher among the moves in his moveset. He has the Axe Kick, yet he uses a
Spinning Forearm as his finisher. He has the Osaka Street Cutter and Hat Rack Cracked (Sitout Front Suplex), yet he uses Shelton Benjamin's
Paydirt as his finisher.
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How about the Derailer or the choke bomb that Gallows/Albert used to use?
They're 2 different moves. The Derailer is a sitout
two-handed chokebomb. The Gallows Pull is a kneeling Gas Mask, where Gallows has the opponent's face in a "gas mask" of sorts before lifting
him and dropping him. And yes, Luke Gallows stole from Pete Gas!
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-Kanyon's Flatliner always looked great and legit. I know R Truth, Shelton, Scott Steiner used variations of the move, but nobody was
better than Kanyon.
I see what you did there. Also, Kennedy's Mic Check is exactly like the Flatliner, right?
Record for most quote/replies in a post?
[Edited on 9-26-2011 by joerizal]
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JB KING
Showstopper 
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Its too bad Batista stole the Rings of Saturn (or a veariation of it) for 2 weeks before leaving. That was always a great submission imo
Give it to Mason?
Oh and im glad to see someone is doing a Boston crab/liontamer/strong hold again....well kinda someone.
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joerizal
Showstopper
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quote:
Originally posted by JB KING
Its too bad Batista stole the Rings of Saturn (or a veariation of it) for 2 weeks before leaving. That was always a great submission imo
Yeah,
it's a modified version. Saturn's version had both arms trapped instead of a neck vice.
Although, he did another version during the latter parts of his WWE career, a Stranglehold Gamma, which didn't look as convincing.
The "Rings of Saturn" is a great submission, though. I'd like to see it back. Ditto the Moss-Covered Three-Handled Family Gredunza that Tyson
Kidd busts out from time to time.
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Give it to Mason?
Speaking of Mason Ryan, add him to the list of guys who use a uranage-variation as a finisher. I say give him the
Jackhammer.
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TommyD420
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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Beer Baron
Fella
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quote:
Originally posted by joerizal
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-Kanyon's Flatliner always looked great and legit. I know R Truth, Shelton, Scott Steiner used variations of the move, but nobody was
better than Kanyon.
I see what you did there. Also, Kennedy's Mic Check is exactly like the Flatliner, right?
Record for most quote/replies in a post?
[Edited on 9-26-2011 by joerizal]
Totally forgot about Kennedy using the Flatliner/Mic Check. I haven't seen a full episode of TNA in a few weeks. I seem to remember he did a
pretty good job of making the move look fluid and believable as a finisher. I was never a fan of Shelton's Pay Dirt. To me, it just looked
sloppy, especially coming from a wrestler who was/is so solid in the ring.
And totally forgot about The Rings of Saturn! I have always been a huge Saturn mark.
The finisher I thought was great/believable was the Banzai Drop. Yokozuna and then later Rikishi used it. Yoko as his finisher, and if I remember
correctly, Rikishi as a set up move. But the Banzai Drop was more of a character driven finisher. It fit with Yoko's character, and Riki was a
fat guy too.
[Edited on 9-26-2011 by Beer Baron]
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Riko
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What about the F5? I really liked it (actually marked out when Brock F5ed the Big Show. Who also used once or twice I think). Seems like something you
could do without actually injuring somebody. I think it would suit Wade Barret.
I'd also like to see the mandable claw again..although I can't think of anyone to use it.
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theflammablemanimal
The Immortal One
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Sorry should have been more specific. The Derailer and the choke bomb are 2 separate moves that both deserve to be brought back.
The Derailer is like Shock Treatment only with the guy over one shoulder instead of in a rack position. It's also similar to Joe's new
move, but with the guy on his own back instead of his own stomach.
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knuckleballschwartz
Showstopper
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Related to the Rings of Saturn, 2 submissions that are probably re-deployable now are
Dan Severn's Bow & Arrow half-crab armbar thingy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRbA1FNbv40
and
(sadly) the regal stretch (can you remember the last time we saw it on wwe tv? even if so we could have a handover/changing of the guard moment where
regal bequeaths his legacy to someone)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPUJlIZnwRY
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salmonjunkie
American Dream
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Regal's Union Jack was a nice finisher too. Wonder why he didn't use it very long.
Talking about his Regal Stretch reminds me of when he won KOTR in 09 using his Regal Stretch to win 3 matches. And how he lost his push afterwards
being caught with drugs. Damn shame.
Personally, I think he�s a [freaking homosexual].
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gobbledygooker
Sister Act 2 
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quote:
Originally posted by joerizal
JTG's wraparound clothesline, Yoshi Tatsu's roundhouse kick
I'm shocked (and a little worried) that you even knew these guys have finishers.
Anyone who lets their hair grow below their ears to where I can't see their ears means they don't wash. If they don't wash, they
stink, and if they stink, I don't want the son-of-a-bitch around me.
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cardscott5
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I'm surprised no one in the WWE has done the single leg crab. I like the way Eddie Edwards does it when he includes stomping the head for extra
emphasis. Speaking of ROH moves someone should steal, I love the suplex into the knees that Roderick Strong does. That may not work as a finisher, but
it's cool.
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theflammablemanimal
The Immortal One
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Someone might as well use the Future Shock. Just saying.
Also:
Lasso from El Paso
Haas of Pain (same move?)
Edge's sharpshooter variant (Edgeucator? That move looks nasty)
Trailer Hitch
Big Show's Reverse Powerbomb
Kenta/Roderick's Running One-Legged Dropkick
Tajiri's kicks of death
And some heel needs to pick up the Power of the Punch.
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Wickedfrost
I LOVE RVD
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quote:
I haven't seen Ox Baker since I read an article about him in an old wrestling magazine about 20 years ago. Wild.
Stay wet my friends.
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magnooos
Turd Generation Superstar
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Giant swing!
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The Riot Act
Hot, Spicy, ICHIBAN!!! 
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quote:
Originally posted by cloak and dagger
With the popularity of MMA coming into focus, basic submission moves become more viable in wrestling, in my opinion.
Totally agree.
I was thinking that some version of an Arm Triangle Choke would make a good finisher. There are so many different ways to apply and you could really
make it look devastating. You could even set it up with some kind of Uranage move, like a Sambo Suplex. I may actually steal this one for myself if
I'm ever in need of a finish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arm_triangle_choke
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bigfatgoalie
The Man 
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Power moves:
Dominator
Jackhammer
Running powerslam / Oklahoma slam
F5
Bossman Slam
Non-bigman Finishers
Superkick
Rocker droper / Fameasser
Rude Awakening
Reverse DDT
Fisherman suplex / Perfectplex
Highflyers:
Frogsplash
Elbow drop
Moonsault
Swanton
Slicebread / Aciddrop
Submission:
Figure four
Million dollar dream
Rings of Saturn
Crossface
Camel clutch (Henry or another big man doing this right would work well)
Also, a DDT and Spinebuster should not be transition moves.
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Beer Baron
Fella
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quote:
Originally posted by magnooos
Giant swing!
Claudio Castagnoli has used that in his recent matches.
I don't think anyone's said this one, and even though he is Buff Bagwell, I was a fan of his Buff's Blockbuster that he did from the
2nd rope. That is a safe finisher and falls under the popular neckbreaker category.
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diablo_dor
Fella
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quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
Regal's Union Jack was a nice finisher too. Wonder why he didn't use it very long.
Talking about his Regal Stretch reminds me of when he won KOTR in 09 using his Regal Stretch to win 3 matches. And how he lost his push afterwards
being caught with drugs. Damn shame.
Is the Union Jack that short arm neck breaker he used in 2001 against Trish? Yeah that needs to be stolen pronto.
Wasn't it HHH who demanded an end to the pile driver, after Undertaker gave him a stinger during the iron man match?
With his attempt to reignite the tag team division why not loosen the reigns a little to see what happens, Hell the pile driver could be a killer move
it doesn't need to be a regular move.
Didn't Layla use the diamond dust?
Do you think anyone would have the cheek to steal any of the Chikara Specials from Quackenbush?
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cloak and dagger
rOOkie
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quote:
Originally posted by diablo_dorIs the Union Jack that short arm neck breaker he used in 2001 against Trish? Yeah that needs to be stolen
pronto.
Sorry Trish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBUVrTq0Ryg&feature;=related
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