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quote:Originally posted by The Riot Act
You could even set it up with some kind of Uranage move, like a Sambo Suplex. I may actually steal this one for myself if I'm ever in need of a
finish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arm_triangle_choke
I liked when CM Punk set up the Anaconda Vise with his Uranage.
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posted on 9-27-2011 at 02:10 PM
I miss the DDT as a finisher. I hate that it's a desperation move now or a setup.
Someone could come in and claim that nobody else does it right, learned Jake's secret technique and then use it as a proper finisher.
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posted on 9-27-2011 at 06:30 PM
^Drew McIntrye's Future Shock is a DDT. He hits is beautifully as well, always looks impactful - it's too bad he's now an
afterthought. If he's ever endeavored somebody like Punk should poach it instantly.
I remember Eddie Guerrero.
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posted on 9-27-2011 at 07:22 PM
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posted on 9-28-2011 at 07:10 AM
quote:Originally posted by blackdragon
quote:Originally posted by The Riot Act
You could even set it up with some kind of Uranage move, like a Sambo Suplex. I may actually steal this one for myself if I'm ever in need of a
finish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arm_triangle_choke
I liked when CM Punk set up the Anaconda Vise with his Uranage.
Yeah, me too.
The thing with the basic Arm Triangle is that it's pretty much already a Uranage grip, so you don't even have to let go after the move.
You can just hit the move and then lock in the hold, which I think would look pretty devestating in the right hands.
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posted on 9-28-2011 at 01:57 PM
I've actually tapped someone out with an arm triangle takedown. Not as impressive as the uranage set up (which would be a must in pro
wrestling) but a nice leg sweep is very effective.
edited to add
Thinking about Mason Ryan's wind up Uranage from Raw, I've always wanted a big guy besides UT with his ugly ass gogoplata to utilize a
submission hold as their primary hold. Like someone mentioned with the camel clutch and Mark Henry, but not as generic.
[Edited on 9-28-2011 by blackdragon]
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posted on 9-28-2011 at 02:34 PM
quote:What about the F5?
The thing with the Stunner and the F5 is that they're too identifiable with a WWE "legend" to just have some
random midcard guy rip it off and start using it. Unless there's a really good reason to do so. Case in point: Dolph using Eddie
Guerrero's Frog Splash because of his association with Vickie and because he's a prick/heel who likes to rub it in people's
faces.
quote:The Derailer is like Shock Treatment only with the guy over one shoulder instead of in a rack position.
That's the Train Wreck, a
move A-Train came up with when he changed his name from Albert. The Derailer is the two-handed chokebomb aka the Baldo Bomb. Speaking of which,
someone should use the Shock Treatment in the WWE. Claudio, maybe?
quote:Talking about his Regal Stretch reminds me of when he won KOTR in 09 using his Regal Stretch to win 3 matches. And how he lost his push
afterwards being caught with drugs. Damn shame.
What about when Regal would institute blackouts on Raws? The heat he got was phenomenal
main-event level.
quote:
quote:JTG's wraparound clothesline, Yoshi Tatsu's roundhouse kick
I'm shocked (and a little worried) that you even
knew these guys have finishers
Heh. Yoshi picks up a win every now and then on NXT and Superstars, so I notice his finisher. JTG's, you
have to think long and hard. I think the last time he won on primetime was during his feud with Shad Gaspard. I think what's even more shocking
and worrying is that I watch NXT and Superstars.
quote:Someone might as well use the Future Shock.
Chris Sabin's right? Too FU-y. Hell, Cena should modify his AA to a Future Shock, but
it's too late for that.
quote:Lasso from El Paso
I forgot how the Lasso was executed. If I recall correctly, it's a variant of a Texas Cloverleaf, right? Too
lazy to youtube it.
quote:Tajiri's kicks of death
Man, I'd wince everytime I saw Tajiri's kicks. Brutal-looking AND sounding. I doubt anyone
today can land kicks as cleanly and as mercilessly as Tajiri though.
quote:I don't think anyone's said this one, and even though he is Buff Bagwell, I was a fan of his Buff's Blockbuster that he did
from the 2nd rope. That is a safe finisher and falls under the popular neckbreaker category.
Agree. Very viable finisher in today's WWE.
Shannon Moore has a version called the Mooregasm.
quote:With his attempt to reignite the tag team division why not loosen the reigns a little to see what happens, Hell the pile driver could be a
killer move it doesn't need to be a regular move.
I doubt they'll ever bring the Piledriver back, but if you're gonna use it
in a tag team setting, then do it Spike Piledriver-style, baby!
quote:I miss the DDT as a finisher.
Alex Riley has his lifting DDT ala-Big Vito (the guy who used to crossdress. yup!). Cody Rhodes, before he
adopted the Cross Rhodes, used a simple yet very fluid DDT as a finisher, almost Jake Roberts-like. Gangrel's Impaler DDT was vicious. I think
Petey Williams has won a match or two with the Bearhug-into-a-DDT, but I could be misremembering. I also recall reading about a time in ECW where 3 or
4 different wrestlers used a DDT as their finisher. Correct me if I'm wrong.
quote:^Drew McIntrye's Future Shock is a DDT. He hits is beautifully as well, always looks impactful - it's too bad he's now an
afterthought. If he's ever endeavored somebody like Punk should poach it instantly.
They need to redraft Drew back to Smackdown.
Don't understand why he got depushed in the first place. Is it because of the Tiffany incident?
quote:Thinking about Mason Ryan's wind up Uranage from Raw, I've always wanted a big guy besides UT with his ugly ass gogoplata to
utilize a submission hold as their primary hold.
Forgot who mentioned it first (flam?), but Brodus Clay using the Stretch Muffler/Brock Lock
would be badass. And again, Mason Ryan + Jackhammer = win. Especially the way Goldberg used to execute it. Make it happen, Arn. Speaking of Arn, I
don't think the Spinebuster can be used as a finisher anymore, at least not in the E, since HHH, Christian and freaking Alex Riley use it as
transition moves.
[Edited on 9-28-2011 by joerizal]
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posted on 9-28-2011 at 06:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by joerizal
quote:What about the F5?
The thing with the Stunner and the F5 is that they're too identifiable with a WWE "legend" to just have some
random midcard guy rip it off and start using it. Unless there's a really good reason to do so. Case in point: Dolph using Eddie
Guerrero's Frog Splash because of his association with Vickie and because he's a prick/heel who likes to rub it in people's
faces.
Agreed. The only reason the RKO works is beacause DDP wasn't a WWE guy, and because Randy does it in a way that doesn't 100% resemble
DDPs. That's probably why we don't see people outside of Harts use Sharpshooters to win matches.
Maybe Dolph should use the Lasso. At the same time, I think the WWE will continue to shy away Vicki's former association to Eddie. As
classless as WWE gets, I don't see them envoking his name to give her and Dolph heat. I mean, not a single face or announcer has ever said
"What did Eddie ever see in you/her?", which would be pretty f'd up, scripted or not.
quote:What about when Regal would institute blackouts on Raws? The heat he got was phenomenal main-event level.
Seriously, if there is one thing in wrestling (non-death realated) that I wish we could go back in time and change is his suspension and de-push. I
still think he'd make a great main event heel, but I think time is going to pass him by.
quote:Lasso from El Paso
I forgot how the Lasso was executed. If I recall correctly, it's a variant of a Texas Cloverleaf, right? Too
lazy to youtube it.
Does anybody use the Cloverleaf these days? I love that move.
quote:Speaking of Arn, I don't think the Spinebuster can be used as a finisher anymore, at least not in the E, since HHH, Christian and
freaking Alex Riley use it as transition moves.
Even Ron Simmons, when he had the most badass spinebuster in the business used it as a transition move (but occassionally did win matches with it).
Personally, I think he�s a [freaking homosexual].
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posted on 9-28-2011 at 07:35 PM
It might be cool to see someone bust out the Iron Claw. I know the Von Ericks used to use it and I know I saw a few other guys but it really
hasn't been used.
The closest thing is Mankind's Mandible Claw. It's probably too soon to use that considering but some other version of the claw would be
great. It could be a submission or a move that knocks people out.
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posted on 9-28-2011 at 08:14 PM
^ You mean like Khali's Vise Grip?
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posted on 9-28-2011 at 11:01 PM
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posted on 9-28-2011 at 11:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by Biff_Manly
It might be cool to see someone bust out the Iron Claw. I know the Von Ericks used to use it and I know I saw a few other guys but it really
hasn't been used.
The closest thing is Mankind's Mandible Claw. It's probably too soon to use that considering but some other version of the claw would be
great. It could be a submission or a move that knocks people out.
The most believable (and coolest) variant of that sort of thing would surely be the tongan death grip which is coincidentally probably the most
stealable too.
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posted on 9-28-2011 at 11:40 PM
All Japanese wrestlers in the WWE should always have the Green Mist just on principle alone. There are long running gimmicks in pro wrestling, like
for example, everyone knows that a Samoan headbutt is 1 million times more devastating than a non-Samoan headbutt. Wanna get Yoshi Tatsu over? Let
him us the Green/Red/Yellow/Black Mist.
I loved the Impaler DDT. Edge used that after Gangrel left the scene.
I wasn't impressed with Mason Ryan's crazy gorilla slam into uranage, solely because it didn't have the sound of a gigantic impact.
Finishers should have a sound of flesh bouncing off the mat. Don't get me wrong, I was impressed he did a move like that, but the overall
lasting image wasn't as strong as it should have been. Either give him the Jackhammer, or if you want to stick with a gorilla press to show how
freakishly strong he is, give him the slam that Goldberg used to do as a setup move to the Spear. Goldberg used to do a Gorilla Press into a
powerslam. That move had the impact to it and it looked legit awesome.
Someone else said it, but Greetings From Ashbury Park needs to come back. That was a great move.
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posted on 9-29-2011 at 01:19 AM
I agree the implant ddt is a fantastic looking move when done right, but regularly looks like one oof those women finishers were the opponent
OBVIOUSLY does all the work.
What about Michinoku (sp) style drivers? I think Matt Morgan has a great looking slam there that could easily look like a finisher.
I also rate combination finishers, like a powerbomb into a Boston crab.
You know what I'd love to win more matches, actually bridged German Suplex, we mentioned Chaos Theory but the bridged Suplex works.
Would they let the Jig a tonic happen? Or the move Mike Modest debuted on Beyond the Mat? I know plenty use it in the Indies but it looks pretty
safe...
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posted on 9-29-2011 at 04:34 AM
Anyone else miss seeing Monty Brown hit the Pounce?
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posted on 9-29-2011 at 04:45 AM
No, but I do miss hearing him talk about hitting the POOOOOOUUUUUUNNNNNCE... PERIOD!
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posted on 9-29-2011 at 06:18 AM
quote:Originally posted by joerizal
Man, I'd wince everytime I saw Tajiri's kicks. Brutal-looking AND sounding. I doubt anyone today can land kicks as cleanly and as
mercilessly as Tajiri though.
Daniel Bryan could. His kicks are pretty badass -- maybe not to Tajiri levels, but he could still use one as a finisher whenever he gets sick of
using the Lebell Lock.
EDIT: Here's something else I'd like to see more of, and I've only seen done once by DDP. It'd take a strong wrestler, but
basically he would get someone in powerbomb position and lift them up like he's doing a powerbomb. Once he reaches the top, the wrestler shifts
position and turns the move into a high-impact stunner or Diamond Cutter.
[Edited on 9-29-2011 by denverpunk]
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quote:Originally posted by denverpunk
EDIT: Here's something else I'd like to see more of, and I've only seen done once by DDP. It'd take a strong wrestler, but
basically he would get someone in powerbomb position and lift them up like he's doing a powerbomb. Once he reaches the top, the wrestler shifts
position and turns the move into a high-impact stunner or Diamond Cutter.
[Edited on 9-29-2011 by denverpunk]
I'm having a hard time visualizing that. I follow all the way until it's time to hit the Cutter. Nevertheless, I'd love to see
this move on video. Do you remember what DDP match?
I can't quite remember anyone doing double underhook suplexes recently. I think Scotty Steiner still uses them. But Double Underhook Suplex
into a powerbomb looks great and has that impact one would need for a finisher. And for tag teams, how bout bringing back the Doomsday Device or the
Steiner's Top Rope Bulldog double team. Hell, even a Double Team Power Bomb would be nice to see.
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posted on 9-29-2011 at 11:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by Beer Baron
I'm having a hard time visualizing that. I follow all the way until it's time to hit the Cutter. Nevertheless, I'd love to see
this move on video. Do you remember what DDP match?
http://youtu.be/keMz1rAUlIc
That's what I'm talking about! DDP gets Eddie in more of a Dominator position rather than a powerbomb, but it's the same concept.
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posted on 9-29-2011 at 11:31 PM
HO-LEE SHIT. That was pretty radical. I think I have seen that before, and it's still a sweet move. Eddie was great on his part as well.
Doesn't hurt that he makes that move like a million bucks.
That move reminded me of Chris Hero doing the Ripcord.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqD3smPV044
Don't know if anyone else does the Ripcord, but I've only seen Hero do it. Though seeing how Roderick Strong kicked out, I guess
that's not really a traditional finisher.
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posted on 10-1-2011 at 04:33 AM
How about any of about 10 moves that Sonjay Dutt does? Anyone explain to me how WWE hasn't hired this kid yet?
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posted on 10-1-2011 at 05:11 PM
Lots of good choices here. A couple of people mentioned it already- but I vote for the Union Jack move that Regal did on Trish. It has that
devastating neckbreaker aspect to it, plus the way it's set up could lead to a lot of good counters and sequences.
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Don't like Natalya's new finisher. Too complicated (even she seems confused when she puts it on) and it looks like her shoulders are down
through the move.
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posted on 10-4-2011 at 11:05 PM
I'd also like to see someone big (Brodus maybe?) pick up d-lo's "Sky High":
