joerizal
Showstopper  
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Originally posted by knuckleballschwartz
Unlike the tna immortal stuff, I quite like the idea of an increasingly beleaguered HHH continually trying to open the show with a simple announcement
about what's going on only to be interupted and waylaid by evermore ridiculous allegations and complaints until he eventually completely loses
it and sledgehammers someone like heath slater all the way back to FCW
Next week, Wade Barrett should come out and blame his botched arm
tattoo on HHH.
That opening segment was so-random-it-made-sense, it really was hilarious. Christian's "one more match" schtick continues to amuse me.
I'm telling you, every single primetime broadcast, he never fails to sneak it in. Awesome.
I like that "Heath Slater" is now the wrestling equivalent of a punchline.
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by Dominator
..let me just say that I was wrong about Alberto Del Rio. I was among those who thought his push came a little too soon, but was willing to see what
he could do with it. Turns out he was more than ready. The match with Punk was excellent, and could've easily gone another 5-10 minutes with
plenty of story still to be told..ADR has proven to me over the last couple months that not only is he not stealing the thunder away from Punk & Cena,
but he's in fact a welcome addition to the main event picture..
Fantastic match. When was the last time you saw that much arm-related
offense in a match? And the attacker's finishing move is arm-based so it made complete wrestling sense. I'd have liked it better if all
that punishment on Punk's arm had come into play in the endgame (like Punk lifts del Rio for the GTS but his arm is too weak so only then does
he revert to the high roundhouse), but just nitpicking. del Rio really is a main event player, in-ring and overall presence. Too bad his 1st
Championship came at an inopportune/inappropriate time, in retrospect.
[Edited on 9-30-2011 by joerizal]
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Dominator
And I am AWESOME
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Originally posted by joerizal
... del Rio really is a main event player, in-ring and overall presence. Too bad his 1st Championship came at an inopportune/inappropriate time, in
retrospect.
Nitpicking disagreement. It came at the perfect time. How else could you justify keeping Punk outside the title picture for even a split second if
he wasn't there? Cena said in a recent interview, "Punk's so good, he doesn't need the title to be a top dog."
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joerizal
Showstopper
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| posted on 10-1-2011 at 05:16 AM |
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To keep it short, I felt Punk coming back 2 weeks after leaving "Money in the Bank" as Champion was a waste after all the build-up and everything
they did right. And, in retrospect, seeing how everything played out, everything that happened after that upto now has been disappointing,
including del Rio winning and completely derailing whatever story they may have had with Punk and his "quest for change".
Mind you, Nash coming back and del Rio cashing in were both a shock at that time, but again, I'm giving my opinion after seeing how everything
turned out.
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Cena said in a recent interview, "Punk's so good, he doesn't need the title to be a top dog."
And fuck Cena for
namedropping Punk. Maybe not in this interview (he may have just been answering a question), but go back to that promo Cena cut on del Rio where he
said, "there's only one guy that can hang with me, and that's CM Punk". Talk about riding the coattails of the hottest commodity of the
company at that time.
That, and Punk's shoot-story of how Cena congratulated him after his first ECW title win and said something along the lines of "I almost gave
up on you, kid". Like Punk needs Cena to validate him. Fuck that noise.
Know your role, you jorts-wearing jabroni. "Real men see through bullshit" [/Rock].
[Edited on 10-1-2011 by joerizal]
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Jumbie
Creepy Little Bastard
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| posted on 10-2-2011 at 03:50 AM |
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Cena said in a recent interview, "Punk's so good, he doesn't need the title to be a top dog."
Lost opportunity. Obvious followup question: "So, Mr. Cena, why do YOU need to have your manicured hands on the title 30 weeks a year?"
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cloak and dagger
rOOkie
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Originally posted by Dominator
Before I get to SKid's comments, let me just say that I was wrong about Alberto Del Rio. I was among those who thought his push came a little
too soon, but was willing to see what he could do with it. Turns out he was more than ready. The match with Punk was excellent, and could've
easily gone another 5-10 minutes with plenty of story still to be told. That said, I liked the surprise ending off the round kick to the back of the
head. I like it that you can have a match end on something other than a finisher or a triple-reverse-y pinning combination. But back to the point,
ADR has proven to me over the last couple months that not only is he not stealing the thunder away from Punk & Cena, but he's in fact a welcome
addition to the main event picture, and as I've said before, the main event picture is at it's best when there are as many qualified
competitors in it as possible.
Meh. He can't talk. His in-ring technique is great, but he gets exposed when he needs to do some talking. They put him on commentary, and he had
less to say than David Hart Smith the one time they let him and Tyson near a headset. He can stumble through a solo speech, but when you ask him to
interact? He can't keep up.
In a business where what you say is as important as what you do? ADR is missing one big element to make him complete. I honestly think that's
why they snatched the title off him and put it back on Cena. Otherwise, why not let him keep it with some chicanery, and have both Cena and Punk
chasing the title come Hell In A Cell? Making him talk for more than 30 second stretches is a disaster. It's been a little over a year since his
debut. His grasp of the language needs to be better.
"...and everything I touch, shall wither and die."
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Jumbie
Creepy Little Bastard
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Now I wanna see WWE with UN style translator headsets going.
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Dominator
And I am AWESOME
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Originally posted by cloak and dagger
Meh. He can't talk. His in-ring technique is great, but he gets exposed when he needs to do some talking.
I agree. As I mentioned in my awesome Muppet Mania post, he's got the same problem I have in reverse. I can't think in Spanish, even
though I can speak it pretty well. I have to think in English, translate it to Spanish, speak in Spanish, hear the reply in Spanish, translate it to
English, think of a response in English, translate it to Spanish, and then say it in Spanish. It takes about as long to do as it does to explain and
it's hard to be very timely and hit your moments as you have to do in a performance.
However, it's not impossible to excel and be a champion in the rasslin' world while speaking poorly or not speaking well. Aside from the
obvious Randall F. Orton, guys like Chris Benoit, Jimmy Snuka, Greg Valentine, Iron Sheik, and Abdullah the Butcher all obtained multiple
championships and legendary status without speaking well. That's what managers/valets used to be for, to help those who needed help talking.
Unfortunately for ADR, his valet speaks even LESS English than he does.
And everyone quit whining about Cena. First off, it seems to me that Cena was still the center of the WWE Universe when he was out Nexus-ing and not
involved in the title picture. Secondly, Punk's the star he is right now for two reasons: 1) CM Punk, 2) John Cena. John was right when he
said he has spent too long making average look awesome and Punk is someone who has proven he can give him a run for his money in the ring, on the mic,
and in the public eye. You notice how it seems like a lot of people's games have stepped up since Punk came to the forefront? Guys like
Rhodes, Ziggler, Henry, even ADR and Orton to a certain degree... Punk and Cena have shamed them into it. Everyone else looked SO bad by comparison.
It was like, "Hey, dipshits, this is how it's done." Cena is as talented a performer as there is in the business today. HHH knows it. CM
Punk knows it. If you don't like his shtick, that's fine, but the man deserves respect.
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cloak and dagger
rOOkie
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Oh, and that Mason Ryan turn has a bit of background, no? Didn't Dolph Ziggler make some snide remark about Mason Ryan and robots during his
exchange with Hugh Jackman the previous Raw?
"...and everything I touch, shall wither and die."
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Dominator
And I am AWESOME
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quote:
Originally posted by Jumbie
Cena said in a recent interview, "Punk's so good, he doesn't need the title to be a top dog."
Lost opportunity. Obvious followup question: "So, Mr. Cena, why do YOU need to have your manicured hands on the title 30 weeks a year?"
Obvious follow-up answer: "I'm sorry, who's been better than me the last 6 years?"
Only guy who comes close is Edge.
Fun Fact: Cena's 10 WWE title reigns have totaled 1,058 days in length which works out to 25.2 weeks a year.
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theflammablemanimal
The Immortal One 
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Originally posted by blackdragon
I remember R-Truth getting blown up, but I don't remember if it was ACME branded. Speaking of which, I miss R-Truth already. God I love me
some Mark Henry.
Truth for blown up by Macgruber.
I don't remember why, but hornswoggle once drew a tunnel on a wall and escaped from Coach, who just ran into a wall.
I mentioned it in another thread, but I don't like the crossbow. Natalya seems like she has a hard time putting it on, like she can barely
remember how to do it, plus her shoulders are down through the whole move.
The first and only undisputed OO draft champion of the world
Get the pistons pumping and let the pigeons loose on my yambag
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knuckleballschwartz
Showstopper
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Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
I mentioned it in another thread, but I don't like the crossbow. Natalya seems like she has a hard time putting it on, like she can barely
remember how to do it, plus her shoulders are down through the whole move.
I like it; she puts it on a lot different to a standard bow and arrow (and it looks more "realistic") and I don't mind the shoulders issue
because she's been bridging in and out of the pin in matches. That said, given how flexible a lot of the divas are I don't know why she
doesn't just use a really bent in sharpshooter which would look at least as badass.
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Jumbie
Creepy Little Bastard
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quote:
Originally posted by Dominator
quote:
Originally posted by Jumbie
Cena said in a recent interview, "Punk's so good, he doesn't need the title to be a top dog."
Lost opportunity. Obvious followup question: "So, Mr. Cena, why do YOU need to have your manicured hands on the title 30 weeks a year?"
Obvious follow-up answer: "I'm sorry, who's been better than me the last 6 years?"
Only guy who comes close is Edge.
Fun Fact: Cena's 10 WWE title reigns have totaled 1,058 days in length which works out to 25.2 weeks a year.
But that's the point: Cena's 'logic' is that you don't need the title if you're 'so good'.
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