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Author: Subject: PPV Discussion: Hell In A Cell 2011
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posted on 10-3-2011 at 11:55 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Not sure if it's been mentioned but I thought Beth should have dumped the Divas title on K2's carcass then come out tonight with the women's title.

Also was expecting Cody to mention big bro in his IC promo.

All in all a decent show though Cena losing just means he's winning again in the next few months as the Dwayne feud gathers pace.

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posted on 10-4-2011 at 12:10 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
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Originally posted by OORick
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Originally posted by DevinemanAnd also, the rumours of the Rick financially benefiting from giving the WWE positive reviews and not ripping in to them has made me look at his posts in a different manner.


I assume by "different manner," you mean to say "ignoring the words I actually write, and imagining entirely different ones." Some people seem to really enjoy doing that.

And this can't be a real thing, can it? These "rumors," I mean? If so, I'd honestly have a hard time deciding who is more heroically stupid: the idiots who created the rumors, or the idiots who actually believe they might be true.

Then again, Fox News not only exists, but has viewers. So perhaps there is precedent for this particular brand of stupidity-being-consumed-by-the-stupid....


Rick


Yeah? AND HOW MUCH DID VINCE PAY YOU TO SAY THAT, Scaia?


Rumor has it he sells out for a case of Bud Lite and empinadas





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posted on 10-4-2011 at 01:13 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
You can accuse me of being Vince McMahon's secret internet propagandist, JBKing, but you WILL NOT accuse me of enjoying low-quality knock-off Mexican hot pockets or anything that originates in vile St. Louis, MO.

Take it back. Take it back, now.


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posted on 10-4-2011 at 01:23 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Few live notes:

Crowd filled in most of lower bowl, still some empty seats around the hard camera but not nearly as many as when I posted that earlier note. Upper level was completely tarped off on hard camera side, and was maybe half full on the opposite side.

Many of the people around me (including myself) thought Ryder would be the surprise IC Title challenger, but still a nice pop for Morrison nonetheless.

Cult of Personality as Punk's theme is awesome on its own, but hearing it blaring through the arena live is ten times more awesome.

The main event finish kinda felt like it came prematurely. When Cena got locked out, and it was only like 9:25 or so, we were certain he would get back in somehow. And we noticed the holes (climbing holes?) on the section of the Cell right next to the door, and figured when Cena couldn't break the door open, he'd climb up and come in through the roof. Then just 2 min or whatever later, a pipe shot and a pin.

The closing angle was awesome. Really felt chaotic, and the sight of all 20 or however many wrestlers were out there all shaking the cage trying to rip the walls open was kinda cool.

And most importantly: After waiting in line behind what felt like a dozen parents who all seemed to buy the Cena shirt, hat AND wristbands for their kid, I got my headband!


It even came with an autographed photo of ZR.





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posted on 10-4-2011 at 02:03 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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You can accuse me of being Vince McMahon's secret internet propagandist, JBKing, but you WILL NOT accuse me of enjoying low-quality knock-off Mexican hot pockets or anything that originates in vile St. Louis, MO.

Take it back. Take it back, now.


Rick


Empinadas have been around longer than hot pockets, how it's lower quality then hotpockets? And second, at least I didn't say bud lite lime





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posted on 10-4-2011 at 03:18 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
How does anyone think Miz/Truth were made to look bad by getting beaten while they were handcuffed?

And Miz took a nasty shot because he bounced into a "cop" with his hands behind his back.





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posted on 10-4-2011 at 06:46 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
As Rick so often says, the Main Event is often the ultimate arbiter of how good a pay-per-view is. That said, I'm loving it the "24"-style booking with complete and total chaos and not knowing where things are going or where the next thing is coming.

Here's what I think WWE has finally realized. They've acknowledged, at least internally (thanks mostly to CM Punk's recent tirade), that they've lost a lot of fans the last few years and in order to get them back they're trying something completely different. Yes, they're using their Free TV Shows to set up their Pay-Per-Views, but now they're using the PPV's to set up the freebies, too, and it's worked out fantastically. They've hit two straight triples with tonight's chaos and the Nash/Punk/HHH/Ace insanity from Night of Champions. You've left a couple big supercards wondering what the hell is going to happen next. What this does is get those fans who have stuck it out through the miasma of crap the last few years talking about it and maybe discussing it with some of their old buddies who don't watch any more. It's not something they're going to be able to rectify overnight, since they did such a spectacular job burning the house down, but they're slowly building it back up.

Alberto winning the title the way he won it was very befitting of his El Patron (The Master) Evil Genius character. The Awesome Truth shenanigans were Truly Awesome and HHH, if you'll pardon the pun, is still having a hard time figuring out when to use a flyswatter and when to use a sledgehammer. It's an interesting parallel how ADR's figuring out how to be a champion faster than HHH is learning to be a COO. But still, the main event and the post-match chaos will be all the talk heading into RAW.

Miz & R-Truth have inserted themselves back into the Main Event picture and set themselves up for inclusion (I know it's a ways off still) in the Elimination Chamber. The Divas match was eminently watchable as storytelling helped make up for the occasional technical glitches. Seeing Beth bust out the same Crossbow Natalya did last week was kinda cool, too. Cody Rhodes got a huge pop for busting out the old I-C strap. The tag title retention and Sheamus victories were well-received. Henry/Orton wasn't a classic, but the right man won (read as, NOT ORTON) and a reasonable story was told. Cara/Cara could've been better, but that was more booking's fault than wrestler's fault... just not enough buildup to care. But you figure a few singles, one or two flyouts, and a triple to close the night... that's a solid PPV.

Now, if by next Wrestlemania they can get the rest of the card as hot as the main event picture is, then this is going to be seriously awesome. It wasn't 5-star-worthy, but definitely thumbs-up-able. And I can't wait to watch RAW. Isn't that how it's supposed to be?

P.S. Oh, 100 posts... and I am awesome. Cool.

[Edited on 10-4-2011 by Dominator]

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posted on 10-4-2011 at 03:59 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Yes, Christian should win EVERY match EVER.

Seriously?


I think that some people are annoyed (myself included) that when Christian beat Alberto Del Rio in a ladder match to win his first WWE World Heavyweight Championsip, he was arguably one of the most over babyfaces in WWE and he was (and still is) having great matches with everyone up and down the card. He was *this close* to breaking out and becoming a legitimate main event player! However, WWE willingly cut him off at the knees when he had every conceivable thing going for him that a potential money drawing babyface could have.

It was at that point I stopped watching WWE TV and taking everything they did seriously. I watched the Orton vs. Chrstian match on SD! following Christians first title win and a few SD episodes during Christians second title reign but thats the extent of it.

Now WWE is pushing Henry who no one wanted to see on top in the first place! If I were them I would have pushed Christian to the moon after he won his first world title...I would have built up credible heels and have him beat them all. He was very over as a babyface...he could have pulled it off easily! More over, I think people saw Christians evolution...he was a tag team guy, a comedy guy and now he was starting to find his way as a singles main event player. He had everything going for him except the confidence of the people in the front office to be a top draw.

Very sad...if WWE can't push someone who had absolutely everything going for them like Christian did, who will they push?? WWEs attitude is "We're making a profit so you watch who we push! If you don't like us, turn us off". Okay, WWE...gladly!! I'm more than happy watching my old VHS tapes and DVDs

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posted on 10-6-2011 at 08:33 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Beth winning the belt? Eh. Someone was upset because if she won it in Buffalo it would have meant more. The belt and division mean nothing. Buffalo would have popped, but the next day, who cares, you're in the same spot now. Until there's actually a division where it doesn't go wrestler to diva to wrestler to diva and back and so on with the belt, it'll never matter if its on Beth or Kelly or anyone else (though Layla returning soon may make it a bit more interesting at least).



The belt and the division COULD mean something, but the Fed shot themselves in the foot when we had an inkling of starting to take it seriously. Beth and Natalya declaring war on the Divas division came on the heels of all the positive changes that came in the wake of the start of Punk / Cena. Tag teams, Raw supershow, Triple H behind the reigns bringing back JR, Morrison, etc. When they did it, Beth and Natalya had some serious cred behind the idea that wrestling was coming back to the women's division.

Like everything else, WWE shit all over that with asshatted booking. Kelly's surprise win over Beth in the first PPV, followed by her clean win in Buffalo, destroyed that momentum. By HitC, I was looking at it like "how many shots does Beth get before it's not her turn anymore?". The SMART thing to do after blowing Beth's chances was to give Kelly one more win, and have Beth / Natty take her seriously. Instead, they lift the belt off Kelly, and everybody loses. Beth took the belt off of "fragile" Kelly, but needed 3 tries to do it. Kelly pulled off a few victories, but ultimately lost to the alpha diva anyway. The momentum was snatched away from both girls at exactly the wrong time, and as a result? The division looks as it ever did. Uninteresting.

Had Beth won in Buffalo, I'd have been down for a third match at HitC where what was at stake was Kelly's pride and desire to be seen as legit as much as the Divas championship. Instead, they made Beth look like a female Christian. They could've done sooooo much better.





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posted on 10-6-2011 at 11:14 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I can't believe Beth still needed to cheat to win. Kelly Kelly is like the Orton/Cena of the diva division.





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posted on 10-6-2011 at 11:20 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Nicer boobs though.



EDIT: Meaning KK having the nicer boobs...

[Edited on 10-6-2011 by williamssl]





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posted on 10-7-2011 at 09:47 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I wish I'd had this gif a week ago:






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