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posted on 8-11-2012 at 12:44 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Abraham Washington Released

After hearing about this, somebody should check on Cherokee Jack.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/wwe-superstar-aw-release-26044431

And upon looking at AW's Twitter feed, he is nuking that bridge.





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posted on 8-11-2012 at 01:23 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
@AWPromotions. Some of the tweets from AW:
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AWPromotions is no more ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for your support and hate, it's been a great run. Now I get to do me which isn't PG!

@TitusONeilWWE & @DarrenYoungWWE thank you for allowing me to speak on your behalf. You guys are the best and I'm glad to call u my friends!

I've offended the wrong people that taught me how to have ATTITUDE It was the #WWE that made me bold and now it has turned it's back on me

Let this be a lesson to up and coming talent in the WWE don't try and be great like the Rock or Stone Cold. WWE isn't the same...

Just be normal shut up and be a yes man so you can collect your check and feel like your special. #SELLOUTS!!

I remember a time when the WWE didn't care about breaking the mold but now everyone is so afraid of their own shadow. #RemeberTheFans

Thanks to the fans who showed me support over the whole Kobe thing and to those I upset I apologize again. Remember It's entertainment folks

I really do hope Linda wins that election because If not then all of this BS has been for nothing. #GoLinda!!


The funny part about that last tweet is just 20 hours before AW was released he tweeted:
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#AWPromotio$ says vote for Linda McMahon!!! The PTP'z support Linda and so should you!! #VoteOrDie4Linda







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posted on 8-11-2012 at 01:33 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Huh, I almost feel bad about specifically pointing out his little rape joke two weeks ago, if that's what got him fired. Not that WWE reads OO or anything, but still...

Of course, that was a retarded thing to say, and I'm glad he apologized for it. Still, for him to be fired over it seems a little overkill. I wonder if it was that comment alone, or if there was something more to it.






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posted on 8-11-2012 at 01:39 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Pretty sure the wrestling world is going to keep spinning, but I wonder why they waited a week and a half and continued allowing him on live TV with a live mic in between?





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posted on 8-11-2012 at 02:17 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Wha...


I...


But...


No...








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posted on 8-11-2012 at 02:47 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Pretty sure the wrestling world is going to keep spinning, but I wonder why they waited a week and a half and continued allowing him on live TV with a live mic in between?


That occurred to me as well. Maybe there was more going on than the Kobe reference.

Edited to add: More fun going on from AW right now on Twitter. This at 9:02pm...

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To anyone that thinks I'm bad mouthing the WWE you're wrong. I love the WWE I just think they have forgotten the people that made them.



...and this a half-hour later...

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@Linda_McMahon : Creates jobs my ass!! I'm fired thanks to you and your campaign.



He didn't just burn the bridge, I'm pretty sure he nuked it and jettisoned the ashes directly into the sun.

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posted on 8-11-2012 at 02:47 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Pretty shitty to get fired over one silly joke... I guess that's what today's WWE is, though. This pretty much kills the Prime Time Players, as they were really benefiting from having him as their manager/mouthpiece.





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posted on 8-11-2012 at 03:47 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Well, Aces and Eights does need a mouthpiece. What's Roosevelt van Buren doing in the Impact Zone, Taz?





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posted on 8-11-2012 at 04:42 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I'm not sure his joke was something he should be fired for, but I thought he was going to be fired when I heard it. Rape jokes have no place on a wrestling show, period.

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Rape jokes have no place on a wrestling show, period.



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posted on 8-11-2012 at 05:09 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
From AW's twitter: funnily enough, Big Show made a Kobe Bryant rape joke during the case! 0:42.







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posted on 8-11-2012 at 05:34 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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@Linda_McMahon : Creates jobs my ass!! I'm fired thanks to you and your campaign.




That's pretty fucking funny. I already wish he could have been around with his live mic ten years ago.





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posted on 8-11-2012 at 05:37 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I may be the only one, but I think that I'd feel much differently about this if the PTPs were babyfaces. But they're not. They're heels.

And I don't see this as a "rape joke." Because one doesn't joke about rape, unless one is Daniel Tosh and is a diptard who's never struck me as funny, because making fun of awful youtubes isn't interesting or worth putting on TV. It's the comment section of awful youtubes. Which anybody can contribute to, which immediately makes it unworthy of putting on TV.

It's a "Kobe Bryant is a douchebag who got aquitted of rape" joke. To some, that might still be tasteless, but to me, it's in play -- even on TV-PG -- so long as you are glorifying his behavior. And they weren't. Titus O'Neil is a heel, and he's just like Kobe Bryant. You're not just allowed to boo for that, you're SUPPOSED TO.

Granted, in AW's shoes, I'd not have made that joke, as it is neither timely, nor especially funny (there are other, equally "edgy," ways to get the same idea across, and you don't have to think very hard to come up with 5 of them), but this was not worth getting fired over. Hell, it wasn't even worth Cole issuing the on-air apology over. [I fear AW may be onto something, and this has more to do with Linda 2012 than with WWE's on-screen product, in which case, I just refer you to every fucking thing I wrote regarding "Stand Down for WWE" in 2010. It still applies.]

All that said, AW was a solid mic guy, but not some singular talent. He'll be missed, but he isn't irreplaceable. If he wasn't torching his WWE bridges, I'd almost have viewed this as a "Daniel Bryan choking Justin Roberts with a tie" deal... but as it is, maybe we should prepare ourselves for the PTPs getting taken over by Vickie? And if that subtext from 2 weeks ago pans out, they join Tensai in her new stable once Dolph turns face?

Just spitballin'....



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posted on 8-11-2012 at 05:57 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Rape jokes have no place on a wrestling show, period.


But it's, as Dusty would say, a trad-ish-iyon.







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posted on 8-11-2012 at 05:43 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I get the focus on the "rape joke" incident, and suer it makes for an easy target as a reason to let the guy go, but jesus how about the much more likely root reason of the fact that despite being pushed to the moon as a mic guy on more than one occasion, AW just isn't very good. Christ, Tony Atlas made him look like a talentless goof by comparison back on ECW, and he aint exactly Piper or Jericho.

I would expect Young and O'Neill to be following hom for much the same reasons, they really are dire and have had far to many chances others could have had.

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^^That. The guy has no talent. When he had his own show for 6 months, he was upstaged by a laughing idiot.

Now that he got a second chance to be on tv with a live mic for months, he still rarely did anything entertaining or worthwhile.

He can be replaced by literally anybody willing to just repeat catchphrases given to them by writers and then stand at ringside yelling "come on now" "get up" and that's what I'm talking about.





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posted on 8-12-2012 at 10:40 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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posted on 8-12-2012 at 07:42 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Given that Cena's feuding with Big Show again, this seems doubly appropriate to post. Not sure how long WWE will let it stay on youtube though...

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posted on 8-13-2012 at 01:39 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
In retrospect, you know who we should really be feeling bad for? Mason Ryan. Because back when they tried to make a big deal out of All World Promotions, he would randomly show up in their backstage bits. And even though they immediately seemed to forget about him when they swapped Epico and Primo out with the PTP, you get the feeling they might try to just throw him out there again. Hell, for all we know, this might have been the week. And now, he's probably just sitting by himself somewhere, wondering if he'll ever be on TV again.





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And now, he's probably just sitting by himself somewhere, wondering if he'll ever be on TV again.


We can all hope not.

Also, AW tweeted this:

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If I smoked crack or did steroids I'd get suspended but I made a joke and tweeted support Linda and I get fired. #Doesn'tAddUp #Hmmmmm



That's a fair point.





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posted on 8-13-2012 at 04:32 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Its because he's black. DUH!!





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No, it's not a fair point.

It's a simple equation. People with talent and value can get away with things, people without cannot. AW is the latter and not worth the hassle.

AW is either completely naive or wildly overestimating his talent.

Or working everyone.





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posted on 8-13-2012 at 03:07 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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^^That. The guy has no talent. When he had his own show for 6 months, he was upstaged by a laughing idiot.

Now that he got a second chance to be on tv with a live mic for months, he still rarely did anything entertaining or worthwhile.

He can be replaced by literally anybody willing to just repeat catchphrases given to them by writers and then stand at ringside yelling "come on now" "get up" and that's what I'm talking about.


Agree with everything you've stated. Did anyone notice the dead silence from the live audience everytime he would yell into that mic? It's like the crowd had no clue on how to react to that. It was a bad idea from the get go! Let's not forget the fact that the tag team he was managing, is very forgettable to say the least.





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posted on 8-13-2012 at 06:21 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Honestly, even if Abraham Washington hadn't made that ill-advised Kobe Bryant joke, I'd not have been surprised to see him fired at any given moment. Conceptually, I liked his character -- manager who's only on the lookout for the best talent and is more than willing to pull them to safety to protect his investment rather than have them compete against all comers -- but that character was pure WWE Creative. All Washington brought to the table was a warm body with mediocre-at-best mic skills.

Of course, that said, it's really, really obvious WWE only canned the goofball because they were worried Linda McMahon's political opponents would keep playing the clip and bludgeon her with Washington's continued employment. As Manimal noted, Washington wasn't worth the trouble.

I wouldn't give up hope on the future of the Prime Time Players, though. It would seem a little forced to pigeonhole in another manager for them, but I think we'd all forget about how forced that seemed almost immediately. WWE still has some semblance of a tag division, so the Players are going to stick around for now.

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posted on 8-13-2012 at 07:05 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
AW has mike skills the same way Chris Tucker has mike skills. Sure, he's certainly astute and can talk, but nobody wants to listen to him for any number of reasons -- delivery, lack of connection, annoyance level, etc. "X Pac heat" was going to be renamed for AW, but he got himself fired.
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