DKBroiler
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posted on 1-25-2016 at 03:07 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by nOOb
I feel like Ric Flair is living the same life Dean Cameron was in last week's episode of Always Sunny, where he thinks he's still living
in the 80's, probably pokes holes in the walls of the women's shower as "a prank", and will likely get hauled away by the police during
Raw for a litany of things that may have worked in 80's sex comedies, but are pretty much sexual assault nowadays.
Never stop partying, Ric!
Pretty much a 100% chance of Ric getting "charges pressed" on him tonight. Also, roughly a 1000% chance of Ric turning on Charlotte at WM so we can
do a Becky rides Space Mountain story over the summer. WOOOOOOO!!!
Get off my lawn.
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Slade
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posted on 1-25-2016 at 03:36 PM |
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I don't see AJ Styles vs. Kevin Owens happening at Wrestlemania. Not every guy who gets tossed from the match is going to have a match at
Wrestlemania against the guy who tossed him. It is more likely than Sami Zayn vs. Kevin Owens, but I still don't think it is happening.
I think Zayn vs. Owens is something that happens further down the road. That was but a little teaser of something that will make them lots of cash in
the future. In the meantime, Sami Zayn is pursuing a second NXT Title reign. I would expect Zayn vs. Balor at Takeover Dallas. I know Owens pulled
double duty on the Summerslam weekend, but Wrestlemania is a much bigger can of worms and there is still a large chunk of the audience that
doesn't watch NXT or Ring of Honor. There are a lot of people who don't know why Zayn vs. Owens would be a big deal. If it happens two
months from now, it won't be a big deal.
The only two matches that I think are a lock for Wrestlemania, coming out of the Royal Rumble, are Roman Reigns vs. Triple H and Brock Lesnar vs. Bray
Wyatt. I'm perfectly happy with those matches.
Kevin Owens and Dean Ambrose are the next biggest healthy draws on the roster. They've just finished having a bunch of ppv matches, so I
wouldn't expect them to face off again at Wrestlemania. They need fresh programs. Someone mentioned Ambrose vs. Jericho as a possibility and I
like that idea. That leaves Kevin Owens to face The Undertaker. If you think I'm out to lunch calling Owens vs. The Undertaker are a strong
possibility, ask yourself who else is best suited to face him at Wrestlemania? Who could possibly be a bigger opponent for him?
As for AJ Styles. I have no clue what to expect from him next. However, the League of Nations looks like it will have nothing to do at Wrestlemania,
so maybe you can get the Bullet Club over by having them feud with the League of Nations. It makes sense to me.
Roman Reigns vs. Triple H
Brock Lesnar vs. Bray Wyatt
The Undertaker vs. Kevin Owens
Dean Ambrose vs. Chris Jericho
Bullet Club vs. League of Nations
Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks vs. Paige vs. Becky Lynch (or just two or three of them, depending on who is healthy)
That's 3 out of 4 hours of your show right there. That's about as good a card as one can hope for without John Cena, Cesaro, Seth Rollins
and Randy Orton.
[Edited on 1-25-2016 by Slade]
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S Kid J E T S 48
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posted on 1-25-2016 at 03:59 PM |
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I think Cesaro and Orton will be back by then...and just going off your card - Them going up against each other in the opening match may be a very
good spot for their next attempt to push Cesaro. Everyone else left being pushed into a US Title Ladder Match closes that card pretty well considering
all the rest of the injuries as you brought up.
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Slade
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posted on 1-25-2016 at 04:10 PM |
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I hope Cesaro and/or Randy Orton will be ready to go come Wrestlemania. I've read the reports that state that they might be back by then, but
that it is far from certain. Orton is recovering quicker than expected and Cesaro has been working out at the Performance Center. Those are good
signs. I don't want to be disappointed if they aren't ready to return by then, so I'm assuming they won't be on the card. If
either one or both them makes it onto the show, then they will be welcomed additions to the show.
"Love is making out with someone after you've blown a load on his/her face." - Dan Savage
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punkerhardcore
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posted on 1-25-2016 at 06:32 PM |
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It kinda felt like Becky didn't even know that kiss was coming, and that was just Flair being a bit of a sleaze on the fly. Good match, at
least... even if the ending sequence was pretty lame. I'm already bored with, "Flair interferes in every single one of Charlotte's
matches." I really wish Becky would have won, but as soon and Kalisto took the title in the match before her's, it was obvious it
wouldn't happen. I would have swapped those two title changes.
At least the booking in this year's Rumble match wasn't fucking god awful like last year's was. Well, except for the
already-mentioned beatdown of Reigns where the League of Nations just left him lying there. So fucking stupid.
HHH winning is such a lateral move, though. Take the belt off Reigns, so that he won't be in the title match at Mania... except now he still
will be. Which, if tonight's crowd was any indication, will be hilarious. Reigns was booed when he made his entrance, and the crowd popped big
when he was eliminated. The smarky Mania crowd will eat him alive.
And I really don't see how we don't get HHH (c) vs. Reigns at Mania. There's no other point for HHH to hold the belt right
now. And him losing it at Fastlane ain't gonna happen, because who would he drop it to? The only match for Fastlane that would make any sense
would be HHH facing... Reigns.
They should have just had Bray win so we could get Bray (c) vs. Lesnar. Oh well.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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Paddlefoot
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posted on 1-25-2016 at 06:55 PM |
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AJ's first WWE t-shirt sold out on WWE.com in about two hours when it was made available and apparently the ones at the concession stands at RR
last night were all snapped up within minutes of his debut. God bless us smarks that keep this business going. Casual crossover fans? To borrow from
what Dice Clay would say about Mother Goose, we fucked them.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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Quentil
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posted on 1-25-2016 at 10:30 PM |
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I really enjoyed the Rumble until I heard HHH's music start at #30. Then my thought (evidently out loud according to my friends) was,
"Crap."
At the end, it was simply that.
[Edited on 1-25-2016 by Quentil]
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PB-13
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posted on 1-25-2016 at 10:56 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Paddlefoot
AJ's first WWE t-shirt sold out on WWE.com in about two hours when it was made available and apparently the ones at the concession stands at RR
last night were all snapped up within minutes of his debut. God bless us smarks that keep this business going. Casual crossover fans? To borrow from
what Dice Clay would say about Mother Goose, we fucked them.
Suffice it to say that my friend Mark doesn't visit much any more.
-PB
Nobody here but me and my friend Mark
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S Kid J E T S 48
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 12:21 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by punkerhardcore
Which, if tonight's crowd was any indication, will be hilarious. Reigns was booed when he made his entrance, and the crowd popped big when he
was eliminated. The smarky Mania crowd will eat him alive.
With all due respect, isn't this exactly what was said about Reigns last year...and he wasn't anywhere near eaten alive? At least this
year they're building an actual heel across from him instead of burgeoning face/monster, Brock Lesnar.
And of course, if they can't figure something out over the next 69 days, he'll punch Vince McMahon once before the end of the match and
everyone will be right back on the train. Wrestling! It works.
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punkerhardcore
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 12:25 AM |
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I remember him getting booed a lot during his entrance, and Lesnar getting cheered while suplexing him. If Reigns had pinned Lesnar cleanly in that
match, I really, really doubt he would have been met with triumphant cheers from the crowd.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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Count Zero
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 12:47 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by ulsterphil
Am I being picky or was the camera work on the whole event a bit shit? They missed a few major spots and even Kofi's elimination during the
Rumble.
Yes the Rumble match has so many things going on at one time its hard to catch them all but this was an entirely new level of bad camerawork.
I
totally agree with this. I dunno if it was my fault or bad camera, but I didn't even realize that A.J. had been elminated, nor what happened to
a few other guys. At times they were too busy following the storyboarded-stuff, and not watching the in-ring action.
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S Kid J E T S 48
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 12:55 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by punkerhardcore
I remember him getting booed a lot during his entrance, and Lesnar getting cheered while suplexing him. If Reigns had pinned Lesnar cleanly in that
match, I really, really doubt he would have been met with triumphant cheers from the crowd.
His comeback, once the crowd really got into it post-Lesnar blood, was enough of the turnaround that it would have just been seen as a great match at
that point. Even if it was middling, not like WWE would have cared. Obviously I'm glad they went the way they did, but it's a year later
and not Lesnar, which is important. People aren't going to be dying to see HHH win like they were Lesnar, especially after we see him on every
Raw for 9 weeks as opposed to 7 weeks off and a return in the home of NXT.
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Slade
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 01:02 AM |
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quote: Posted by Count Zero
I totally agree with this. I dunno if it was my fault or bad camera, but I didn't even realize that A.J. had been elminated, nor what happened
to a few other guys. At times they were too busy following the storyboarded-stuff, and not watching the in-ring action.
There were a few editing oddities. I distinctly recall seeing the set up for Goldust's awesome quick-snap powerslam. I forget who was running at
him, but I was anticipating it and then they cut from the shot of the entire ring to something happening in one of the corners and it was completely
missed.
I think a few eliminations were missed. I understand that Kofi's was missed because the League of Nations assault on Roman Reigns was happening
at the same time. It's annoying that they did cut back and forth, but I think that was to be expected. I'm glad that Kofi's
elimination at least got shown in a replay.
The AJ Styles elimination wasn't missed. You would have had to have had your eyes shut or left the room to miss that one. The cameras were
basically trained on Styles and Owens from the moment they started throwing fists until the moment Owens hucked him over the top rope.
EDIT TO ADD:
quote: Posted by S Kid JETS 48
People aren't going to be dying to see HHH win like they were Lesnar, especially after we see him on every Raw for 9 weeks as opposed to 7 weeks
off and a return in the home of NXT.
That's an excellent point. I think the part about Triple H returning in Orlando, at the home of NXT should be emphasized. Triple H has a mega
ton of good will built up in that town. He was cheered because he is the brainchild behind the NXT loyal regulars' favourite WWE product and the
NXT regulars showed up in full force at the Royal Rumble, not because people the world over hate Roman Reigns. One should not make the mistake of
using how the Full Sail regulars act and react to things as a barometer for how the rest of the fan base thinks.
It is also why Sami Zayn got a spot in the Rumble and why they had him eliminate Kevin Owens. They were making the NXT crowd happy and laying the
foundation for a feud that will happen well off into the future, not setting up Zayn vs. Owens at Wrestlemania.
[Edited on 1-26-2016 by Slade]
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The Hitcher
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 01:05 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by punkerhardcore
I remember him getting booed a lot during his entrance, and Lesnar getting cheered while suplexing him. If Reigns had pinned Lesnar cleanly in that
match, I really, really doubt he would have been met with triumphant cheers from the crowd.
This was my feeling also.
He's more over than he was last year but he's probably skirting the line of acceptability on a clean Wrestlemania win,
especially so last year against Brock.
HHH may afford him more cheers because, well, it's HHH the smart crowd anti-christ but last night was pretty damning in the crowd
reception department, that Rumble would've ended in boos should Reigns have prevailed have no doubt.
quote: Originally posted by Slade
There were a few editing oddities. I distinctly recall seeing the set up for Goldust's awesome quick-snap powerslam. I forget who was running at
him, but I was anticipating it and then they cut from the shot of the entire ring to something happening in one of the corners and it was completely
missed.
That was AJ.
And yes the editing was complete shit in places last night as mentioned, the camera work in general has been getting annoying lately.
Here's something that'll ruin things for you if you've not noticed it yet: Impact movements. Where they'll spasmodically move
the camera along with the action, often via zooming in and out really quickly on slams or moving left to right in time with punches. It's
teribble and needs to go away.
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G. Jonah Jameson
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 01:24 AM |
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The only elimination the cameras missed was Kofi Kingston. I get what everyone is saying about overlooking eliminations, because there are a few I
barely caught, but the other 28 were all on camera. I think the issue is that the eliminations didn't have as much buildup. The last few years,
if a guy's going to go out, he gets a few seconds of focus first, even if he's just fodder for the Big Show or something. This year, that
guy was more apt to suddenly get dumped shortly after the cameras focused on him or his executioner.
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Jumbie
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 02:50 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by nOOb
I feel like Ric Flair is living the same life Dean Cameron was in last week's episode of Always Sunny, where he thinks he's still living
in the 80's, probably pokes holes in the walls of the women's shower as "a prank", and will likely get hauled away by the police during
Raw for a litany of things that may have worked in 80's sex comedies, but are pretty much sexual assault nowadays.
Never stop partying, Ric!
Next week he's going to try some trickery with his Darth Vader mask...
"I'm a team player."
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anglefan85
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 06:42 PM |
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WWE posted a much better version of AJ's entrance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuBVcsPVPyQ
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act crazy by association, caught in the gravitational pull of his insanity."- Ringout from FAN Forums
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Dominator
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* I know you all missed me, but it took a bit for me to get caught up on non-work life as I worked a 150-hour business trip in 11 days. So I watched
the two Raws I missed in preparation for what is probably the favorite show of the year for the IWC. So let's get going with the Royal
Rumble.
* By the way, I LOVE the Roman Gladiator theme and all the ancient-looking statues. WWE should keep that in perpetuity for this event.
* If I hadn't had said business trip, I probably would've made the 2 1/2 hour drive to this event, as I did for Wrestlemania 8 or so years
ago. I have a buddy who's supposedly on the floor, 12th row.
* Really looking forward to this I-C title match. Last man standing is perfect for Owens/Ambrose. Potential show-stealer here.
* Oh, crap. Saxton is on commentary for this. I thought King was a Rumble staple. This is a big event for Saxton to prove his mettle on the
table.
* I think Kevin Owens and Michael Cole are secret buddies.
* Cannonball breaks the barricade! That was a pretty creative way to do it.
* Did Owens just try to stab Ambrose with that broken kendo stick? That's not PG-rated!
* Did JBL lose his voice in the first 10 minutes of the event?
* Kevin Owens looks funny with a chair necklace.
* And there's your first Holy Shit chant after a top rope elbow through the table. Crowd doesn't want this one to end.
* They both said they hate each other in the middle of the match. That is hysterically awesome.
* Holy shit #2 as Owens reverses the superplex into a super jackhammer through the table.
* Ow. Owens shoved off the top through his own table stack. Sucks to be you. Game over. Everything I hoped it would be. Good on you, boys. Way
to get the show off to a super start.
* Were the Usos booed for interrupting New Day? They were pretty awesome. And Orlando was cool with their Francesca chants. #GoldenUnicorns
* I really think this a pro-New Day crowd here in Orlando. I didn't know Xavier had a tornado DDT in his bag.
* Xavier and Cole are arguing mid-match. Awesome.
* Is there a wireless mic attached to the trombone? Seems like we can hear Xavier more clearly.
* OK, it is clear now that there is a very vocal pro-New Day crowd here and good on JBL for acknowledging it.
* That's 2-for-2 on quality matches.
* Wyatt Family Rumble draw will be fun to monitor.
* OK, ADR/Kalisto... time to step up your game.
* Orlando counting in Spanish with ADR's mounted corner punches. Orlando's Full Sail experience paying off in crowd quality.
* OW! Countered a rana into a vertical gutbuster! Wow, ADR. That was awesome.
* This match has been good quality but hasn't had the crowd response it deserves. Couple botches late here by Kalisto hasn't helped.
* Again, ADR might be the worst Mexican at rana bumping ever. Well, it wasn't crisp on anyone's part.
* Kalisto wins. Little disappointing from both fans and performers as we reached end game.
* Hey, there's King. There needs to be a little crisper intros on these panels. We don't need dramatic pauses between everyone.
* I'll tell you this, Becky Lynch's promo on Raw that goaded Ric Flair into this title match was absolute perfection.
* That is one short skirt on little Lilian wannabe.
* Ric kissing Becky? There's a distraction for you.
* Byron Saxton, "I would conversate with Becky Lynch..." Really, Byron? Conversate?
* Charlotte has gone to the Kevin Owens school of in-ring chatterboxing.
* Well, that was unique. Throwing in the jacket as opposed to throwing in the towel, but it doesn't count as a loss? OK, whatever. Becky
certainly had generated some positive love from the crowd, but by the end Charlotte had all the heat.
* Sasha now here? OK. Let's see what happens.
* Guess Sasha wants to headline Wrestlemania? Maybe a Triple Threat?
* Is Lilian confused as to which language she's speaking in in this Rumble explanation?
* Looks we could have a Philly repeat if Reigns retains tonight.
* Byron Saxton quoting Pink Floyd? That's something I'd never thought I'd hear.
* So Reigns in at #1 in the biggest charade of a Rumble draw ever. That was so freakin' stupid the previous Raw.
* Rusev #2. The two guys who ended the '15 Rumble start the '16 Rumble.
* Michael Cole did not mention the other guy who won the Rumble at #1. Krispin Wah.
* Wow, Rusev eliminated in just over a minute.
* Whoa. AJ Styles at #3! And rudely greeted.
* And Tyler Breeze at #4. This is a trio I didn't expect to see. And wow, can Styles bump. I will admit I've seen very little of Styles
so I may be ignorant of some of his skills. Funny that I mentioned Krispin Wah and Styles is reminding me a little of him. Breeze gone.
* Curtis Axel completing his year-long Rumble journey at #5. What the hell is this with the refs allowing the rest of the Social Outcasts to be
around the ring. And it winds up costing Axel.
* Jericho in at #6. I think he is required by law to be in the first 10 of the Rumble draw every year he's in it.
* Kane at #7. Limping a bit? These 90 second splits seem a little short... maybe to keep Reigns fresh for the whole thing.
* Goldust gets a nice ovation at #8.
* Ryback is booed out of the building at #9. Ring starting to fill up.
* New Day at #10. And it's Kofi. Ready for Rumblinsanity.
* Again, why is New Day allowed to be at ringside. And holy shit was Styles just launched by Ryback in a back body drop about 10 feet. Still in,
though.
* My man, Titus at #11. Starting hot, too. At Titus knocks out Goldust! Way to get an elimination, Titus! Sadly his local crowd (lives just down
the road on I-4) doesn't care.
* R-Truth in at #12, brings a ladder in, climbs it, thinking it's a ladder match, gets pulled down and eliminated by Kane. OK, that was
funny.
* Kane then clotheslines Kofi over the top onto Langston's shoulders. Good one. Kofi having a beverage on Langston's shoulders.
* Uh-oh. Wyatt #1 at #13. Luke Harper. How key will it be for him to stay around until his buddies get in. Saxton points that out, smartly.
* And now Vince and the League of Nations are pulling Roman out of the ring and beating him up on the floor. This is the most outside interference
retardation I've ever seen. They are tarnishing the Rumble with this. Biggest joke since Vince's win.
* Stardust coming in at #14. Ruseve with a running splash across 3 announce tables through Reigns. Cole is way too indignant about it. Kofi is
still on somebody's shoulders outside the ring. The League of Nations is beating up a guy and not eliminating him. They announce that Kofi was
eliminated. We don't know how. This has devolved into horseshit so quickly.
* Big Show is in at #15. Big Show just dumped Titus. Big Show has just eliminated Titus and Ryback as they're trying to cart out Reigns and
we're playing this Reigns surviving the odds B.S.
* Neville sprints by Reigns to enter at #16 as Reigns is being stretchered out. Way to prove yourself, champ. Who the fuck thought this was a good
idea?
* We finally get to see Kofi's elimination courtesy of Y2J.
* Wyatt #2 at #17 and it's Braun Strowman. Man built for this match. Could weed out the field here.
* And Strowman just blocked a choke slam and threw Kane out! Wow. And now facing off with Big Show! And he did the same thing! Wow! There's
a statement for his future. And a big boost for Wyatt hopes.
* Kevin Owens at #18 and limping like hell. He starts off with Styles! That could be fun. Neville almost eliminated Styles! And now Owens does!
And screams "Welcome to WWE!" How can the crowd chant "This is awesome" when the guy defending his title in this match isn't even in the
ring any more? Styles didn't really showcase much after his initial foray. Really thought he'd be an anchor with his entry number, but
he was pretty much a place-holder.
* Dean Ambrose in at #19. Owens is waiting.
* Hey, look who's back! Sami Zayn at #20! And Owens with another enemy. And Zayn got him! Wow.
* The final Wyatt henchman in the ring at #21. Erick Rowan beating people up. He and Harper combine to take care of Neville and Stardust. Wyatts
beating everyone up.
* Mark Henry at #22. Wonder how he'll fare against the Wyatts. Wow! Strowman just scoop-slammed Henry with ease. All 3 Wyatts chuck Henry
out. Strowman dumps Zayn. It's now 3 Wyatts vs. Ambrose & Jericho.
* Brock Lesnar at #23 to a raucous ovation and to even the odds. Lesnar imposing his will on the Wyatts. Rowan is gone.
* Jack Swagger at #24. Decides to go after Lesnar. Error. F5. Buh-bye.
* Miz at #25. Where is Roman Reigns? So awful. Miz is going to chill out, I'd imagine. And he's proving me right by moving in to
commentary position and defending his decision. Nothing wrong with this. Everything wrong with Reigns being out of the match for the last 25
minutes.
* Lesnar disposes of Harper. Really the beast of the match and huge for the fact that Wyatt hasn't entered yet.
* ADR at #26 and looking reasonably fresh. Lesnar wipes out Strowman. Wow. The Wyatt Family are gone. Jericho is bleeding from his nose.
* Bray Wyatt at #27. One number too late. Or not. The Wyatts are now back in the ring and are ganging up on Lesnar. I understand this is no dq,
but there's always been some sort of honorable competition in this thing most of the time. And the times there haven't been, the match
has been horrible. This is another example. And Reigns has been out for at least
half-an-hour. And Lesnar is now eliminated by the 3 returning Wyatt Family members. This is disgusting.
* Dolph Ziggler at #28. Miz decides to enter finally. Smart to wait for the Wyatts and Brock to be out. If Reigns comes back and wins this, nobody
in Orlando is going to be happy.
* Sheamus at #29. Wearing really small tights. Roman Reigns returns to Superman Punch Sheamus coming down the aisle.
Enters with renewed vigor after his nap to a chorus of boos, eliminates Miz & ADR.
* Uh-oh. HHH is #30. Brilliant machination. Saxton points out the deck stack the McMahons have done, but I'm not buying it with the half-hour
nap the champ got. The champ who, by the way, is not selling any of his previous "injuries." And the crowd is not buying it, either.
* HHH sidesteps Ziggler and gets rid of him.
* Wyatt and HHH face off. That backfires when Sheamus and HHH tag team him to get him out. Disappointing day for the Wyatts.
* Ambrose chucks out Jericho after another stellar performances by Y2J. Over 50 minutes according to Cole.
* Final Four are Sheamus, Ambrose, Reigns & HHH.
* Brogue kick by Sheamus on Ambrose. Goes for another and gets hung up, allowing Reigns to Superman Punch him out. HHH quick to jump over and dump
Reigns before he can think about what to do next! Thank God Roman didn't win this. But this is now a foregone conclusion. No way Ambrose is
both IC & World Champ. This is going to set up HHH & Reigns to headline WM in front of 100K people. A semi-retired executive against the alleged
future. In a WM Main Event. What a disaster.
* Orlando wants Ambrose. They don't get it. HHH wins. Absolute horseshit from start to finish. The 1 vs. All concept was interesting but
ultimately obliterated by the half-hour the champ spent out of the match, the constant outside interference and the threat of it by allowing tag
partners and buddies around ringside was a travesty, the deck-stacking joke of making Reigns #1 and HHH #30 was moronic, Lesnar being eliminated by 3
Wyatts and not climbing back in the ring himself and tossing Bray out and F5'ing him through all the announce tables was out of character, and
then you top it off with the COO becoming champion. 2nd worst Rumble behind Vince winning under similar circumstances. You took the greatest
showcase match of the year and turned it into a side show. And this was after a pretty strong undercard. WWE can suck it on this one.
I get that Cena's hurt and that might've changed plans, but there's no way you make Reigns/HHH your feature match. You have HHH
cost Reigns, that's one thing. Make the vengeance the top of the undercard a la Bret/Vince. Don't make it for the freaking title in the
Main Event. Obviously WWE has time to right this wrong, but it's such a big wrong... this could be 3 straight years the WWE has fucked
themselves with the Rumble decision making and there's really no excuse for it.
[Edited on 1-26-2016 by Dominator]
I do NOT love RKO, you sarcastic bastards.
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Matte
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quote: Originally posted by Dominator
2nd worst Rumble behind Vince winning under similar circumstances.
Were you on a hiatus for the last handful of Rumbles? This year's definitely had its bad/questionable moments, but I'd rank it ahead of
2014 and 2015, maybe 2012 and 2013 (can't say for sure, I forget most of those ones).
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The Hitcher
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Seconded: As much of a groan inducing cluster fuck as some of that match was, it was nothing on how much of a train wreck the last two were.
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Dominator
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Here's why this one was so awful. You're trying to get to a vendetta between Reigns & HHH at WM AND trying to maximize buy-rates
for WM, right? How many other ways could this have been achieved other than putting the title on a guy who I believe has wrestled 5 times in
the last 3 years? And unlike the last two years, this is something you can't back out of. You can't damage HHH's wrestling legacy
because of his current position in the company. So, was 2014 flawed? Yes. But it could be fixed. The groundswell for Bryan was overwhelming. Was
2015 flawed? Yes, but it could be fixed. Rollins could cash in his briefcase (the thought I immediately had when Reigns won and the universe shat
all over it). This can't be fixed. HHH is going to be in the Main Event of WM32. Think about that. A guy who basically hasn't been an
active wrestler since 2010 is Main Eventing the 2016 WM as the WWE Champion. And the guy who is supposed to be his credible opposition took half the
Royal Rumble match off. If you want to put Reigns through the ringer and screw him, then screw him. Beat him up on the outside, then throw him back
in to the Wyatts. Have him prove his worth with a 60-minute effort Against All Odds, One Versus All, and then have HHH as #30 dump him when he
wasn't looking. Ironically, this would've been the year to have Reigns set his eliminations record. Be #1, dump a bunch of folks out,
get screwed in the end. Instead of 1 vs. All, we got 1 vs. About Half, 'cause Reigns missed like #'s 14-29. You might've thought
the plan was bad the last two years, but the way they went about carrying it out was acceptable. This year, the plan was bad AND the execution
was so damaging to so many.
* HHH not a credible champ. He's a place-holder and everyone knows it.
* Reigns took half the Rumble match off. He's a weaker challenger.
* Lesnar was eliminated by 3 guys who weren't even in the match and sought ZERO retribution. He's made weaker.
* Wyatt, never got any serious in-ring action with Lesnar and now he's going to be his major foil? Weaker.
* League of Nations failed to take out Reigns and didn't eliminate him when they ambushed him. Weaker.
That's your ENTIRE MAIN EVENT picture at present, all coming out of the second biggest PPV of the wrestling calendar year looking weaker
than when they came in. Pure unadulterated horseshit.
I do NOT love RKO, you sarcastic bastards.
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Count Zero
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posted on 1-27-2016 at 01:58 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Slade
quote: Posted by Count Zero
I totally agree with this. I dunno if it was my fault or bad camera, but I didn't even realize that A.J. had been elminated, nor what happened
to a few other guys. At times they were too busy following the storyboarded-stuff, and not watching the in-ring action.
The AJ Styles elimination wasn't missed. You would have had to have had your eyes shut or left the room to miss that one. The cameras were
basically trained on Styles and Owens from the moment they started throwing fists until the moment Owens hucked him over the top rope.
Okay, that one was completely my fault, though I don't even remember what I was apparently doing at the time. I just figured it was bad camera
work, but it appears to be a memory hole.
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The Hitcher
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posted on 1-27-2016 at 03:08 AM |
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I'll agree to disagree Dom, which is cool, we're all pals.
The second Bryan got dumped like a sack of shit last year my interest flatlined both in the Rumble itself and the Wrestlemania match. Granted it
worked out great with Rollins in the end but as an isolated event, that Rumble was a turd.
Year before: The second #30 wasn't Bryan: Same as above. They'd been shitting on Bryan so hard in the weeks prior to the Rumble they
had to throw him in there to give him some sort of credible arc, but they didn't. Luckily, again, the crowd rescued it and we got
the (imo) Wrestlemania moment since we can't talk about Eddie/Voldemort any more. But again, they killed the match with shitty
booking.
This year they had shitty booking but the match didn't overtly suffer as entertainment.
As a self contained PPV: This year was a marked step up imo, doesn't mean it was excellent or even good, just better.
[Edited on 1-27-2016 by The Hitcher]
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Paddlefoot
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posted on 1-28-2016 at 12:10 AM |
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You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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