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Subject: OOfficial Discussion Thread for: RAW (January 25, 2016)
janerd75
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 04:14 AM
Are those monitors the cardboard kind they put on furniture at Office Depot or can you just pick up the real deal there in a 10 Monitors for 10
Dollars type of deal?
He's "unknown" only in the bizzaro-verse kayfabe fuckface wonderland where WWE doesn't want to admit ROH/TNA/Japan even exist. -
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 04:16 AM
So HHH books a match where he might potentially have to meet one of those three?... in what dimension does that make sense?
"Congratulations Brock/Roman/Dean on barely even SURVIVING such a brutal match, I'm sure you'll be less than 100% when you face me at
Wrestlemania... despite having numerous weeks to recover from the deliciously evil threeway I've placed you all into... thus rendering my plan
useless and placing me in a match with The Human Cheat Code/The Chosen One/A Complete Lunatic .... shit."
It'll be fun getting there but... come on now.
[Edited on 1-26-2016 by The Hitcher]
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 04:22 AM
quote:Originally posted by The Hitcher
So HHH books a match where he might potentially have to meet one of those three?... in what dimension does that make sense?
"Congratulations Brock/Roman/Dean on barely even SURVIVING such a brutal match, I'm sure you'll be less than 100% when you face me at
Wrestlemania... despite having numerous weeks to recover from the deliciously evil threeway I've placed you all into... thus rendering my plan
useless and placing me in a match with The Human Cheat Code/The Chosen One/A Complete Lunatic .... shit."
Going along with that, the Authority set up Roman Reigns to get screwed at the Royal Rumble and drop the title, and to follow that up...they put him
in a number one contender's match, where he can potentially get a match against Triple H and regain the title. Sure, makes total sense.
Also, what was the point of the whole "Authority evaluating talent to decide who's in the main event at Fastlane," only for Steph to come out
at the end and just randomly throw Reigns, Ambrose, and a guy who wasn't even on the show into a match together?
And I'm feeling pretty underwhelmed by Triple H/Reigns at the moment and think it could end up being similar to Triple H/Orton from WrestleMania
XXV, where the crowd just doesn't give a shit.
Nash is only a few inches bigger than JBL and depending on how stiff he gets Punk should be able to take it. -JB King, meant in a totally non-sexual
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 04:23 AM
quote:Originally posted by The Hitcher
So HHH books a match where he might potentially have to meet one of those three?... in what dimension does that make sense?
"Congratulations Brock/Roman/Dean on barely even SURVIVING such a brutal match, I'm sure you'll be less than 100% when you face me at
Wrestlemania... despite having numerous weeks to recover from the deliciously evil threeway I've placed you all into... thus rendering my plan
useless and placing me in a match with The Human Cheat Code/The Chosen One/A Complete Lunatic .... shit."
It'll be fun getting there but... come on now.
[Edited on 1-26-2016 by The Hitcher]
Well, the argument is what he laid out in the beginning - the WWE Title is safeguarded now because HHH is the champion. Just a hubris thing of
believing that he can beat anybody, so why not let the crowd favorites have their shot so he can put them down once and for all? Hell, surely he
wants more physical revenge on Roman than just a couple of moves and throwing him over the top rope, for that matter?
I don't deny that the getting there was tepid - I think the match will be good, but I'm more intrigued at potential Roman/Ambrose tension
than anything else involved. It also makes me wish there was a way we could get to Ambrose/Brock at WM because I would enjoy that immensely.
"It is an impressively arrogant move to conclude that just because you don't like something, it is empirically not good. I don't like
Chinese food, but I don't write articles trying to prove it doesn't exist." - Tina Fey
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 04:28 AM
Still waiting for Curtis Axel and Adam Rose to form the long-awaited tag team of...Curtis Adam.
*ducks thrown objects*
-PB
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 04:39 AM
quote:Originally posted by Nobledictator1278
I know Im watching this on DVR and I forgot to fast forward....but how does someone become successful creating a title named Pride and Prejudice and
Zombies...... What the hell is wrong with the creator and everyone who green lit it....and anyone who thinks this is a good idea. Am I wrong? Am I
that out of touch with the real world?
[Edited on 1-26-2016 by Nobledictator1278]
It's appeal is the injection of surreal and ridiculous elements to classic human stories. Mocking the melodrama and perceived pretentious of
those books by throwing a huge curveball that makes the regular parts of the story seem pretty damn funny with the new perspective. There's
alsothe cleverness of seeing certain elements reinvented and repurposed to fit the new genre. It's tough to pull off right but there's a
reason it caught on.
Oh and a RAW was fine I guess.
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 04:53 AM
As it relates to all the love that there seems for Pride and Prejudice and Zombies from the folks that responded about it on this board ......to my
self I say ....."you know nothing John Snow" I am shocked at the defense given to the movie. I guess Im just getting old....I never got Pokemon
and Dragon Ball Z either.... we keep this up people will be cheering men with unicorns on their.....FUCK :-)
[Edited on 1-26-2016 by Nobledictator1278]
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 04:56 AM
With Triple H/Reigns and Brock/Wyatt seeming to be locks for Mania, I got to thinking tonight about where that leaves Taker. And then it hit me, even
though it will probably never happen in a million years: Taker/Styles at WrestleMania. The storyline could be as simple as AJ saying that he's
wrestled all over the world and challenged the best, but there's one guy he's always dreamed about facing. And then he could call out
Taker for a WrestleMania match and things go from there.
Again, I highly doubt it would ever happen, but I'm just not sure who Undertaker matches up with at this point where it'd be a big enough
deal for WrestleMania (unless they do something where he teams up with his mortal enemy Brock Lesnar to take on the Wyatts, but that would just kind
of be a retread of Survivor Series). Kevin Owens would be a good opponent, and I'd be fine with that, but Taker/Styles would just have more of a
"dream match" feel to it.
Nash is only a few inches bigger than JBL and depending on how stiff he gets Punk should be able to take it. -JB King, meant in a totally non-sexual
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 05:05 AM
quote:Originally posted by S Kid J E T S 48
It's a little weird seeing someone as level-headed as Rick going full bore "this is going to be a disaster" mode. I mean, even the idea that
they're going to turn Roman Reigns heel at this point seems about as far away as it gets. Even more so, that after all this time holding him out
that WWE would just immediately trust Daniel Bryan into the most important match of the year without worrying that the could get injured and ruin
it.
That's even before we get to the part where it really isn't a big deal. The worst thing that happens is he gets "Cena-ed" and they cheer
HHH and boo Reigns, and they haven't cared about a Wrestlemania ending with an unfavorable reaction to Cena ever, including just 3 years ago. I
don't even think we're in that zone.
For one, the whole bit with "Hey, let's put Bryan in the match and turn Reigns heel" was meant to be a bit more smart-assy than it came off.
Like, "OK, WWE you get to do this stupid thing without realizing how terrible it is, so let me respond with something completely crazy without
realizing how implausible it is." I mean, the part with Bryan. I fully stand behind the fact that WWE would get Reigns to where they want Reigns to
be faster if they turn him heel and let him follow the proven path, rather than trying to force him to be an ultra-rare exception to the rule.
For two, I think you're understating the problems with HHH/Reigns for the title at WM32 at least as badly as I might be overstating them.
There's a couple of components to this. The big one is that this isn't just setting up to be a "people boo Reigns like they do Cena"
deal. The pieces are in place for this to be Lesnar/Goldberg bad. If I thought there was a high probability of fans just deciding to cheer for HHH to
be contrary, fine, it's still basically a wrestling match with fans getting into it (even if they're into the wrong guy). That ain't
gonna happen like it did 3 years ago, because HHH ain't the Rock; it ain't even gonna be like last year, which turned out better than
expected, because HHH also ain't Lesnar. You take the Reigns hate, you add in the fact that the wankers have HHHated HHH for 15 years because of
his perceived political game, and you finish up with a healthy dose of The Types of People Who Attend WrestleMania...
That's just a disaster waiting to happen, because those fans won't give this a chance as a wrestling match... and I say that as someone
who thinks the Reigns Hate is way too much; I just acknowledge it exists and have my own ideas about how you'd fix it (heel turn). And I say
that as someone who has always thought HHH should have another title run before hanging it up for good (because unlike most wankers, I find him to be
good at his job), too.
But even as I, myself, am famously "level headed," that doesn't keep me from stepping back and recognizing how this is gonna play out with
people who aren't me, and from marvelling at the fact that WWE is going down this road, and will probably have the audacity to feign confusion
or ignorance when it all implodes, despite the fact that anyone who gets paid to make wrestling has no excuse to not see it coming.
And that leads to the other component that's probably not as easily quantified, and it's more just an intangible notion that "Hey, this
is WrestleMania, and this is NOT the time of year to be putting something out there on the grounds that Hey, maybe it won't TOTALLY suck, or
Hey, this has been our goal for a year so let's just keep doing it even though there are no signs of it working, or whatever."
Not to twist your words, Skids, but it's sort of like your best defense is "Well, it might go wrong, but even so, it'd just be like 3
years ago when everybody booed Cena." It's still TWO MONTHS till Mania, and if so motivated, a lot of things could be fixed. But nah, it might
suck, but things have sucked in the past, so why put in the effort?, let's just do what we planned... I do not buy that as a justification for
tanking a random Monday night, I sure as hell don't buy it as an adequate justification for admitting that something is less than Your Very Best
Effort and running it out there for the biggest show of the year.
If this IS WWE's very best effort, I feel pretty sad, because a lot of other potentially good things at Mania will wind up living in the shadow
of an historic piece of WrestleCrap.... but if, by your own admission, this is NOT WWE's best effort and it's just something that maybe
won't be a complete abortion, I would hope you'd join me registering SOME displeasure, rather than giving WWE a free pass.
Especially when HHH/Reigns could very easily be turned into a pretty entertaining value-added match at WM32, just by making it be Not For the WWE
Title. That's the thing which creates all the problems. And it'd be so simple to correct. But it's not looking like it'll
happen. D'oh.
For WWE's latest trick, the Authority spent all of December and January trying to make sure Roman Reigns is not WWE Champion. They finally get
their way. The next night, entirely of their own volition and under no duress, they put Roman Reigns right back into a #1 Contender Match. Oy.
This is WrestleMania Season, not "Well, gimme a second, and I'll come up with some sort of rationalization for why this is not completely as
bad as you're saying, Rick." Because even if I AM overstating things and it isn't COMPLETELY, the objective reality of the situation is
that it's still at least partly bad.
Rick
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 05:05 AM
quote:Originally posted by the goon
And then it hit me, even though it will probably never happen in a million years: Taker/Styles at WrestleMania. The storyline could be as simple as AJ
saying that he's wrestled all over the world and challenged the best, but there's one guy he's always dreamed about facing. And then
he could call out Taker for a WrestleMania match and things go from there.
Phenom vs. Phenomenal. There - that's all you need for a match.
EDIT: I'm on West Coast and watching Jericho/Styles at the moment, so I haven't seen the end segment yet. Did they say anything about
Reigns' rematch clause...and that being the reason Reigns was in the Fastlane main event #1 contenders match? That would have at least made
some sense - "Yeah you have a rematch, but you're not going to get a normal rematch... " kind of thing. "The only reason you're in
the Fastlane match is because you're owed a #1 contender's match..." Or something.
[Edited on 1-26-2016 by williamssl]
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 05:18 AM
AJ seemed a bit jittery. He's probably nervous and wound-up because he doesn't know the other guys very well yet and probably needs some
time to adjust to the much larger crowds.
The girls match was great. That was the first time lately that Charlotte's really ramped up some intensity because she really hammered both
Sasha and Becks tonight. Really looking forward to how this all plays out, especially if Paige gets involved again or Bayley gets the call-up in this
period ranging from Fastlane to WM.
Might get in shit for this but I really don't like New Day all that much. It's just too hackneyed and over-the-top, even for wrestling.
Too loud by far and just plain dumb. Having them face off with Rock, who had his own schtick dialed up to eleven out of ten tonight as well was just
too much. Had to turn the volume off halfway through because it all got way too obnoxious.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 05:29 AM
quote:Originally posted by Nobledictator1278
As it relates to all the love that there seems for Pride and Prejudice and Zombies from the folks that responded about it on this board ......to my
self I say ....."you know nothing John Snow" I am shocked at the defense given to the movie. I guess Im just getting old....I never got Pokemon
and Dragon Ball Z either.... we keep this up people will be cheering men with unicorns on their.....FUCK :-)
[Edited on 1-26-2016 by Nobledictator1278]
Just for the record, I'm not defending it. I just happen to be aware that it exists, because pop culture. I almost rolled my eyes out of my
skull when it started.
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 05:54 AM
quote:Originally posted by williamssl
quote:Originally posted by the goon
And then it hit me, even though it will probably never happen in a million years: Taker/Styles at WrestleMania. The storyline could be as simple as AJ
saying that he's wrestled all over the world and challenged the best, but there's one guy he's always dreamed about facing. And then
he could call out Taker for a WrestleMania match and things go from there.
Phenom vs. Phenomenal. There - that's all you need for a match.
I...I don't know how I feel about the Undertaker being inside A.J.
quote:Originally posted by williamssl
EDIT: I'm on West Coast and watching Jericho/Styles at the moment, so I haven't seen the end segment yet. Did they say anything about
Reigns' rematch clause...and that being the reason Reigns was in the Fastlane main event #1 contenders match? That would have at least made
some sense - "Yeah you have a rematch, but you're not going to get a normal rematch... " kind of thing. "The only reason you're in
the Fastlane match is because you're owed a #1 contender's match..." Or something.
Wow, you're really in for a treat! Just wait until you see how Bryan makes his return. No, seriously, just wait for it! Yes, that's it,
keep waiting! Waaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttt fooooooooorrrrrrr iiiiiiiiiiit...........................................................
Also, TL;DR RAW: New Day Rock's Rock, Rock Rock's New Day....I think.
He's "unknown" only in the bizzaro-verse kayfabe fuckface wonderland where WWE doesn't want to admit ROH/TNA/Japan even exist. -
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 06:08 AM
Of note...on Sportsnet 360 up here in Soviet Canuckistan, they showed a local promo for the Road To WrestleMania Network Special with Paul Heyman that
Lesnar will be there...and will be hunting Wyatt. Soeither a) they are blowing that off there or b) Lesnar vs Bray will be Lesnar's Mania
match.
As for WHY Roman is getting a title shot...see the opening promo. Triple H gushed over how GREAT (not good, GREAT) Roman is. And how tough he is. But
how until Roman & the non-Roman members of the locker room learns them some respect, Trips will stay champ. Case in point...no need to defend the belt
every 30 days. So Triple H thinks he is that damn good, but Roman is even better. So I don't think he sees Roman as a threat, but still gets
that Roman is one of the best on the roster. Hence Roman being in the main event of a PPV is what's best for business.
Is it great storytelling? Know. Is the logic weak? Sure. But does it make sense it world of pro-wrestling. Yup. And still smarter than Sting.
Additionally...Ambrose being in the match could mean many things. Could be fake tension, could be leading to one of them turning on the other. Or it
could be a McGuffin. We won't know for weeks.
AJ looked...off. Watched the show with my brother and his comments were "AJ messed that move up" and "He looks small next to Jericho"...both of
which could be issues if it just wasn't nerves on AJ's part and the WWE gets gun shy with his push.
Kevin Owens is the best. When the ref tried to raise his "injured" arm Owens a) sold it b) made the ref raise his other arm. That's the type
of things other guys (see Rollins, Seth) just do not do at the same level.
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 06:33 AM
quote:Originally posted by janerd75
Also, TL;DR RAW: New Day Rock's Rock, Rock Rock's New Day....I think.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 07:47 AM
Well, the alternative was to Google "The Incredible Hulk Bangs Urkel" or post a bunch of big ol' floppy llama cock gifs and I don't
think any of the fellows want to see that. Even I have standards, you know.
Is @TheRock about to #LayethTheSmackDown on #TheNewDay?! #RAW @WWEBigE @TrueKofi @XavierWoodsPhD https://t.co/uKh2vTpfK7
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 08:45 AM
Missed RAW, but saw the AJ/Jericho match on the youtubez. Pretty good showing, I'd say, for AJ. If the botch was on the final pin reversal,
that's something relatively minor that only people like us notice. And I love the entrance music.
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 10:30 AM
quote:Originally posted by OORick
You take the Reigns hate, you add in the fact that the wankers have HHHated HHH for 15 years because of his perceived political game, and you finish
up with a healthy dose of The Types of People Who Attend WrestleMania..
I can agree that all of this is just a terrible idea, but I can see people cheering for HHH as well. Not to insane Brock/Rock levels, mind you. All I
know is Roman will get no love.
And honestly with him chair shotting and spearing anything that moved at TLC going over so well, he should just be causing chaos and ruining the show
until he gets his rematch. If you want to keep him face, that would go over like gangbusters. You know what's not on my top 10 booking choices
to get Reigns to face HHH at Mania? Having him beat my other two top babyfaces that are much more over than he is. I just, really don't
understand the booking at all...
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 01:32 PM
Its a frustrating time as I do believe that without the title being involved, HHH-Reigns, with Vince and Rock also involved, could be perfectly
acceptable for Mania. Its the fact its gonna be the main event for the title that makes it shit.
On other notes - isn't anyone else fed up with the Rock? Jesus his stuff is awful. He is kinda like Flair and Vince now. Get the pop, do
something quick, then fuck off for a few months. Hopefully the weed comment will get him off the mic for a while.
Nothing to worry about with the Hogan thing though, didnt anyone else watch WWE 24 after the Rumble? Hogan is back in WWE land..
And finally, sucks for Cody, but Stardust is clearly out the door now AJ has arrived. Still, it had pretty much run its course anyway.
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 03:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by OORick
The big one is that this isn't just setting up to be a "people boo Reigns like they do Cena" deal. The pieces are in place for this to be
Lesnar/Goldberg bad.
Rick
I think Rick is absolutely right on this one & some may be underestimating how bad Reigns/HHH may go if it is the main event for the championship.
Obviously worst case is Goldberg/Lesnar where the crowd shits all over the match & chants for Daniel Bryan, AJ Styles and Kevin Owens the whole time.
Best case may be HHH v. RKO from Wrestlemania 25 where the crowd was apathetic and silent most of the match. The Authority is a solid #2 behind Reigns
in terms of who the wankers hate the most right now so I really don't see a scenario where the crowd just cheers for HHH. He got cheered at the
Rumble because they were desperate for ANYONE but Roman to win, & HHH was the only real hope. The conclusion of HHH v. Reigns match at Mania is a
foregone conclusion where everyone knows exactly how that's ending so that only compounds the problem; but if HHH somehow won that doesn't
make anyone happy either because it means the 2nd most despised thing in WWE, the Authority, will continue to drag on & on & on. I don't see WWE
changing course either so I think that main event will be one of the most memorable of all time...for all the wrong reasons.
As far as Raw goes, like others have said, just seeing the graphic for AJ Styles v. Jericho on Raw was surreal. Really high quality Raw match that
still felt like just a teaser of what those two could do. Props to Y2J for going 50 minutes in the Rumble then turning around and going 15 with AJ
while being the vet & leading the new guy through his first Raw match. Agreed that AJ will need time to acclimate to the big crowds & everything that
makes WWE WWE but no doubt he'll be fine. It's really amazing to see how big a deal WWE is making out of AJ though, & even cooler that
they're saving the Clash for a big moment.
I don't know what the Rock did but I loved it and was captivated the entire time he was on screen. Yeah some of it was a little corny but Rock
sells the hell out of it & I genuinely believe he's having a blast out there which translates to me having a blast watching him. Also the
inadvertent middle finger to Kevin Dunn and the production truck was amazing when he talked to the fellas dressed like the old school wrestlers. I
remember a story a few months ago where Dunn got all pissy because some guys did that on the front row and he made them move and maybe even change.
Last night he made them move again & the camera held off from showing them as long as they possibly could after that 1st segment, until Rock literally
put the microphone in their face. I can only imagine that buck-toothed fuck knawed straight through California redwood while watching what Rock was
doing.
Somebody gonna get their ass kicked, somebody gonna get their wig split
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 03:28 PM
Pretty sure the guys at the French announce desk appreciated being part of the action at the end.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 03:40 PM
I was at the show Monday. Here are some of my observations:
* McMahon and Steph's promo was solid, but not spectacular. Crowd popped for HHH and he was pretty thoroughly cheered throughout his promo. Odd
reaction for arguably your top heel. "AJ Styles" chants were really loud during the promo and throughout the show. Seemed like they expected some
"Roman" chants but the crowd didn't bite unti lthey gave a light one at the end kind of out of pity.
* Ziggler received a lukewarm response. Sad to see how far down the ladder Ziggler slipped. Crowd was pretty solidly behind Owens and popped loudly
for his entrance and his win. Almost felt like the crowd has given up on supporting Ziggler because they know that know matter how loudly they cheer,
Vince still won't push the guy. Maybe I'm projecting. Good match though, and no one sells like Ziggler does.
* The stuff with Flo Rida went over much better live than on TV. Crowd was laughing and enjoying themselves. The Social Outcasts are genuinely
entertaining. Hopefully they can get this lousy gimmick over like New Day did. Huge pop for the Duds and the crowd was into the match the entire
time.
*Crowd popped really loudly for AJ. People absolutely knew who he was and were solidly behind him. During the match, there were some competing "Y2J"
vs. "Let's go, AJ!" chants. From the crowd the match looked really disjointed and it appeared there was some communication problems. It looked
like Jericho called the entire match on the fly and AJ either wasn't hearing some stuff or not understanding. Not a great WWE TV debut but I
don't think it was all his fault.
* Becky vs. Sasha was pretty good. A lot of people got up to go to concessions during it though. Short match, but it was solid and everyone got good
reactions.
* The backstage segment with Goldust and R-Truth played really well live. Everyone was laughing and eating it up. FWIW, Stardust beat Darren Young in
a dark match and the crowd was all over him. Wouldn't mind seeing a reunion.
* Crowd started off really excited for Kane vs. Bray but turned on the match really quickly. The guys dressed as Hogan and Savage started playing to
the crowd and really loud "Randy Savage" chants started. Bray even came over and yelled at the guy in what appeared to be legit annoyance. Crowd
wasn't into the match at all and spent the entire time cheering the Savage cosplayer and booing security who made them move, and mixing in some
"We want Lesnar!" chants. Bray and Kane worked hard but the crowd was distracted and disinterested. Also, Strowman's bear hug looks really
weak live. Crowd around me was cracking jokes about how Strowman should pat Kane on the back and how it should be called the "Bear Embrace".
*Clearly, the Rock got the loudest pop of the night and the crowd ate everything up. The New Day was absolutely hilarious and were the perfect foil
for Rock. Crowd ate up the entire segment.
* Brie Bella got a nice pop which surprised me since the Total Divas promos they played during the show were soundly booed. Paige and Natalya both got
nice reactions too. Match seemed quick but it was nice to see the Brie take the loss.
*Kalisto vs. Miz was terrible. Crowd didn't like it at all. Lot's of boring chants and even one "This is awful!" chant. Hard to believe
Miz main evented Mania.
*Reigns entered the ring near my section and everyone was craning their necks and running up and down the stairs to get a better look. The crowd was
all over the road regarding Reigns. I'd say it was 33% girls and children cheering him, 33% teen boys and men booing him, and 33% who just
didn't react at all. Even though Cena gets mixed reactions, there is never any ambivalence. With Reigns there was a large segment of the crowd
who didnt' even bother to cheer or boo. Match was really good though and the crowd liked it. Crowd popped for Dean's hot tag, but kind of
booed when Reigns came in. After Steph made the FastLane announcement there was a lot of "Huh?"s from the crowd since the Authority wanting one of
those three guys to face HHH at Mania doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
* Overall, the crowd was pretty active. Loudest pop was for The Rock followed by AJ and Reigns/Ambrose. Best heel heat was Vince/Steph followed by the
League of Nations and Social Outcasts.
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Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Hey baby, I'm come an' blow up that bitch son of goblin then you can I fuck be with a real man.
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 04:01 PM
Even the New Day had a hard time saving the Rock segment. That's right, I said it! I'm in the minority here, but I haven't found
Rocky funny since 2002. He just seems so dated with his juvenile references. In a segment that seemed to last forever, I laughed twice. Once, when
he threw the keys to Miz to valet his truck and the second time when Xavier Woods said "did it for the paycheck". Where's Francesca to give
us the wah wah wah waah failed bit tune?
Two words...... "Golden Truth"! By the way stuttering Goldust is back.
BoRida owned FloRida.
Kevin Owens is the man. This guy can do no wrong. It's the attention to the small details that make him so great.
AJ Styles looks awesome. They are holding back on the Styles Clash, which is ok with me. Jericho again plays the role of the good company guy by
putting the new talent over. It's becoming clear with every time he comes back, that he has lost a step or two in the ring.
Lesnar, Ambrose, Reigns sounds exciting, until you realize that the result is a foregone conclusion.
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 04:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by The Grindfather
I think Rick is absolutely right on this one & some may be underestimating how bad Reigns/HHH may go if it is the main event for the championship.
Indeed, as evidenced, underscored, bold-faced, italicized, and highlighted by the loud pop HHH got when he tossed Roman at the RR. Which, technically,
is the third Rumble whiff-in-a-row for gauging what The People are interested in seeing, it just happened to be hidden by a lot of other cool
shit, like Owens, A.J., Zayn, el al.
Dean is their Championship Match "out" if they really come to their senses between now and WM if they don't want Lesnar/Goldberg redux or,
even worse, HHH really getting cheered. Dunno quite how you get there, but as the Rick pointed out, and what a lot of us have held as the most
reasonable and easy thing to do is for Roman to go heel. Let him be an "in it for himself heel" kinda in the Owens ballpark rather than the
Authority approved suck-up Rollins. Shit, well, just writing this it dawns on me you'd had to have Dean win the Rumble for an easier flip. Hell,
the WM Championship match is looking all kinds of fucked with HHH as Champ with only Brak and Dean as vaguely acceptable challengers if they go
through with it as it stands now.
Barrk vs. The Wyatts doesn't exactly inspire confidence so maybe have the Family come down at the Fastlane 3-Way to help hit the reset button
before WM somehow. Jebus this is getting complicated. Where the hell is Cena when you need him.
quote:Originally posted by The Grindfather
Also the inadvertent middle finger to Kevin Dunn and the production truck was amazing when he talked to the fellas dressed like the old school
wrestlers... I can only imagine that buck-toothed fuck knawed straight through California redwood while watching what Rock was doing.
Outstanding. And may the splinters never pass from his idea maker. Amen.
quote:Originally posted by CCharger
I was at the show Monday. Here are some of my observations:
* McMahon and Steph's promo was solid, but not spectacular. Crowd popped for HHH and he was pretty thoroughly cheered throughout his promo. Odd
reaction for arguably your top heel. "AJ Styles" chants were really loud during the promo and throughout the show. Seemed like they expected some
"Roman" chants but the crowd didn't bite unti lthey gave a light one at the end kind of out of pity.
And you didn't leap the barrier because why now?!?!
He's "unknown" only in the bizzaro-verse kayfabe fuckface wonderland where WWE doesn't want to admit ROH/TNA/Japan even exist. -
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posted on 1-26-2016 at 06:59 PM
The WWE: Where no one wins, unless you like Cena, in which case you are a sad little fanboy who will never get laid, but we are happy to take your
money away-Moosehead Jack
"She is an estrogen molotov cocktail. It'd be in your best interest not to piss her off."- My thoughts on Firewoman
"Kurt Angle is like a living vortex of the surreal. On the off chance he's not doing, saying or thinking crazy things, people connected to him
act crazy by association, caught in the gravitational pull of his insanity."- Ringout from FAN Forums
And may the splinters never pass from his idea maker. Amen. 
