nOOb
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That last episode had to be the middle of the end of Jimmy McGill. There's no way to escape without some damage. He essentially confessed to
his girlfriend that Chuck was right: he sabotaged HHM to give her her client. His leaving the bed they shared in the middle of the night and
disappearing for hours is going to reinforce that point. So immediately he's probably out a girlfriend and is probably going to have to worry
about her turning him in. His brother he may have inadvertently saved, since we established last season that the electronic allergy was in his head,
so he may have given his brother the situation he needed to get the MRI or CAT scan that shows what's really going on in his head, which,
knowing Jimmy/Saul, is a greater good situation that ultimately justifies everything he did wrong.
I also imagine that Monday is when Mike finally "pulls the trigger". He got a "Good Samaritan" killed because he didn't kill the driver.
Hector is probably entering bell ringing school somehow Monday. I think at this point I just want to see how Gus gets into this. But the ride to get
there is at least better than most of TV right now.
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janerd75
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posted on 4-16-2016 at 07:09 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by OORick
Are we still watching this?
I know that, for me, the pace of the show really made it harder to find discussion material this season. Yeah, you had Hector and the twins, but the
main story of Jimmy/Saul seemed to stall. This season was basically "Mike's Awesome Back Story and Everything Else is In Slow Motion Musical
Vignettes."
I got spoiled binge watching Breaking Bad in its final year, so I had virtually no down time between seasons. Watching Saul "real time" is difficult
to say the least, especially when we know what the endgame will be, barring any radical transformation into a post-BB continuation in the next few
seasons. That being said, I've also found Mike's journey to be much the more engrossing journey than Saul's, much like I preferred
Frank Castle's adventures over Daredevil's on his show.
It's funny, but when I watched BB at such an accelerated rate, I got in the "Nuance Zone" and stayed there for the duration to pick up all the
amazing details Gilligan and Co. throw into every show. Since it's more of a slog to go week to week with Saul, I find my attention wandering
and I miss a lot of the Easter eggs, callbacks, and other world building details. Oh well.
quote: Originally posted by nOOb
That last episode had to be the middle of the end of Jimmy McGill. There's no way to escape without some damage. He essentially confessed to
his girlfriend that Chuck was right: he sabotaged HHM to give her her client. His leaving the bed they shared in the middle of the night and
disappearing for hours is going to reinforce that point. So immediately he's probably out a girlfriend and is probably going to have to worry
about her turning him in. His brother he may have inadvertently saved, since we established last season that the electronic allergy was in his head,
so he may have given his brother the situation he needed to get the MRI or CAT scan that shows what's really going on in his head, which,
knowing Jimmy/Saul, is a greater good situation that ultimately justifies everything he did wrong.
I also imagine that Monday is when Mike finally "pulls the trigger". He got a "Good Samaritan" killed because he didn't kill the driver.
Hector is probably entering bell ringing school somehow Monday. I think at this point I just want to see how Gus gets into this. But the ride to get
there is at least better than most of TV right now.
Pretty much down with all this. I figure the fall either killed Chuck or the bump will have "cured" him of his electromagnetic sensitivity hooey and
he'll go after his brother in earnest for all the shit he pulled.
With Mike, I'm guessing he's gonna make a play to take out Hector, but as is customary with BCS, shit will go sideways and he'll
need some rescuing. Which, of course, will Bring The Fring to his aid as the Salamancas are his greatest enemies. I'm wondering if it will be a
mutual respect thing, or if Gus offers him a job and "protection", i.e. forced murdertude, for keeping the rest of Tio's gang off his back?
Season Finale ETA: Well, I was kinda right about Chuck and possibly vaguely right about Mike. Chuck doesn't look to be cured but he
certainly is going after Jimmy. I was kinda disappointed that I guessed from the beginning that everything Chuck did after his hospital stay was a
set-up to take down his brother. As soon as I heard he was "retiring" I wondered where the recorder was. Then Jimmy spilled his guts and dropped the
karmically ominous, "It's your word against mine" and there was nothing left but the reveal. Ho hum.
As for Mike, it couldn't have been Nacho that rigged his horn to blow or left the note, so it was either Bobby Singer having second thoughts
after the fingerprint wipe of the rifle or the set-up for next season's inclusion of Gus. In the latter case, I'm not exactly sure how he
could have caught wind of Mike's troubles with Hector at this point, but I suppose it's possible there could be a Fring mole in
Tio's crew that's been shadowing Mike for a while.
All in all, I hope they're done with the table setting and can really throttle up towards Jimmy's transformation into Saul and Mike into
Gus' enforcer in season 3. Not gonna lie, but some of the BB luster is starting to wear off for me. That show crackled in ways that this one
somehow doesn't. Again, now that we've really established who everyone is and where they're headed in earnest, I hope they get
moving with Saul's hired goons Huell and Kuby, as well as a couple visits to Los Pollos Hermanos.
[Edited on 4-19-2016 by janerd75]
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like me, you're no good to anyone doing anything else. All I'm saying is don't go trying to be a human being. You'll get your
fuckin' heart ripped out." - Ross "The Boss" Muthafuckin' Rhea, Master of Fucking Guys Up 101.
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Paddlefoot
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posted on 4-19-2016 at 07:28 AM |
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I guess at the end of last season it was easier to hate Chuck for being mean to Jimmy because of the ingratitude of screwing over his brother and
caretaker. As this season went by (with seeing how Jimmy fucked over his own dad, got Chuck's wife to crack lawyer jokes at him, and then
wasn't there when their mom died) it became easier to see that Chuck's resentment began turning into a justifiable vendetta. Chuck's
been there all along to see the damage that Jimmy causes to practically everyone who enters into his orbit. Even if Chuck is the first to state that
Jimmy can't help himself from behaving that way it eventually becomes an excuse for shenanigans. And it's an excuse that has a limited
shelf life. At this stage in the proceedings it's hard not to agree with Chuck that the only thing that will stop Jimmy is a now-probably
disbarment and potentially a trip to prison.
I do like slow-burn seasons that build up a lot of the background story because it usually results in some kind of explosion, including intense
violence, for later on. As such I don't have a problem with this second season of BCS being a stage-setter. The sole surviving chicken
brother's shadow is now looming over the proceedings with the note left on Mike's windshield, and I'm assuming the mole in the
Salamanca mob is probably Nacho because he's clearly dissatisfied with the way Hector and Tuco run their operation. Jimmy's clearly now in
major shit if Chuck uses that recording the way I assume he is going to. Kim's kinda-sorta legally insulated from Jimmy's antics, but she
could get screwed if Chuck uses Jimmy's stunt to get the bank contract returned to HHM and it could derail her career via guilt by association.
All the major pieces are now in place for next year for the real game to begin.
Liked the part where after Jimmy's commercial played on the TV in the waiting room the commercial that followed it was for (The Garden) Weasel.
Never a truer moment for Jimmy even if he didn't notice it.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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CVD39
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posted on 4-19-2016 at 08:24 AM |
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Yeah, it seems like other shows have the over arc but also contain many arcs throughout seasons (sometime even single episodes). This just seems like
one long story where nothing is wrapped up at the end of episodes/seasons. It's slow. I still like the characters but the pace is just too
slow for me to really enjoy it as much as I enjoyed BB and other shows.
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janerd75
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posted on 4-19-2016 at 07:41 PM |
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TL;D(id)R Pad: Chuck is Skyler. Kinda annoying, but essentially right about their loved one's criminal antics.
And with that finale, I'm going to knock myself into some kind of coma so I can awaken into a Trumpian/Hildabeastian/Bernoid/Rat-faced Canadian
ex-pat hellscape in a few years so that I may binge this show as it was intended by my addled brain to offset the terminally slow pacing. Jonathan
Banks ain't getting any younger, goddamn it!
"Kid, you got this thing. The stuff. The shit. The fuckin' grit, you got it, like me. But like me, that's all you fuckin' got. And
like me, you're no good to anyone doing anything else. All I'm saying is don't go trying to be a human being. You'll get your
fuckin' heart ripped out." - Ross "The Boss" Muthafuckin' Rhea, Master of Fucking Guys Up 101.
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nOOb
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 12:02 AM |
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Hey, the Breaking Bad guys did something
clever again.
I honestly don't know how much of a spoiler this actually is because 1) We know it's going to happen and probably soon and 2)
There's really not anything in this to show how it's going to happen.
So there's a hidden message in the titles that the creators opted to throw in. The episode titles (Switch, Cobbler, Amarillo, Gloves Off,
Rebecca, Bali Ha'i, Inflatable, Fifi, Nailed, and Klick) are all usually very short and usually tied to a key point in each episode. In this
case, someone took all the letters starting each episode title:
SCAGRBIFNK
And, if, you re-arrange them, you get this:
FRINGSBACK
They're quick to point out that doesn't mean he had anything to do with pulling Mike from his sniper position, or positioning Nacho in
front of Hector, or that he's going to pop up right away. But it wasn't an accident. Be excited for season 3.
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