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posted on 7-22-2016 at 09:02 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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A history of TV & PPV matches - the only kind of matches that matter, according to you - involving Becky Lynch and Dana Brooke:

1. Smackdown (May 10) - Brooke def. Lynch by pinfall with an assist from Emma.
2. RAW (May 16) - Brooke def. Lynch by pinfall.
3. Smackdown (June 7) - Lynch def. Brooke by submission.
4. Money in the Bank (June 19) - Charlotte & Brooke def. Lynch & Natalya by pinfall; Lynch is not pinned and gets attacked 3-on-1.
5. Smackdown (June 21) - Lynch def. Brooke by DQ when Charlotte interferes.
6. RAW (July 18) - Banks & Lynch def. Charlotte & Brooke by DQ when Natalya attacks Lynch.

Lynch is 3-3 against Brooke (2-2 in singles competition). Other than one clean loss to Brooke, the second time they faced either other, Lynch has not been made to look weak against Brooke. In fact, the next time they faced each other after Brooke's clean win against Lynch, it was Lynch getting a clean win over Brooke. She was further made to look better than Brooke in their last singles match when she was poised to defeat her only to have Charlotte interfere. Then, Lynch was protected in the Money in the Bank match by having Natalya take the pin and then attack her post-match. That's hardly the textbook definition of a burial.

[Edited on 7-22-2016 by Slade]
She was made to look weak. Kayfabe wise, she looks like a complete goober because she had to know they would try every dirty tactic against her. Yet, she does nothing and lets happen multiple times. Becky NEVER should have lost to Dana Brooke AT ALL. As for MITB, once again she ends her night on her back staring up at the ring lights looking like a complete goober. You cannot continue to job her out the way they are or nobody will give a damn about her. But as long as Vince has sheep like you defending his crap booking, we will get more crap booking.,

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Becky will get her chance at some point. I do not understand all the crying about this subject. DB looked weak at some point. HBK and Bret waited a long time to get their moment. Seth and Dean waited quite a while before getting the belt. Who cares? Just enjoy seeing the yummy, talented Becky on TV every week.
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Becky will get her chance at some point. I do not understand all the crying about this subject. DB looked weak at some point. HBK and Bret waited a long time to get their moment. Seth and Dean waited quite a while before getting the belt. Who cares? Just enjoy seeing the yummy, talented Becky on TV every week.
HBK never lloked weak. HBK almost instantly got the IC title when he went on his singles career. DB never looked weak. Seth and Dean were treated as big deals from the moment they debuted as the Shield. And sorry, I'm not going to enjoy Becky getting jobbed out every night in purgatory known as the Smackdown womens division while Vince orgasms over Ric Flair's untalented daughter. Becky made the mistake of getting over on her own. Vince is punishing her for it. The only way Becky gets the title is if whoever the champion lets her hold the belt for a couple of minutes.

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posted on 7-23-2016 at 01:42 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
If this Becky thing bothers you as much as it does, then watch Raw and punt on SD. And if seeing Charlotte on Raw bothers you as much as it does, watch Lucha or something. Or just FF any offending segments

Or heck, take a break from wrestling altogether for a bit.

Choose to keep watching that which upsets you and deal with it, choose to change it up, or choose to be angry every week. Too many people go with option 3 there and have a hard time figuring out why they're not happy and why people find them unpleasant or worse.

We're past dead horsey stage on this one. I choose to ignore all subsequent posts on the topic.

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How the fuck has a Smackdown thread gotten up to nine pages? Okay, this whole Becky/Charlotte thing (which I have skimmed through) has highly contributed, but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this is the first and last time any WWE TV show generates this many pages of discussion. Though if we can get it up to 13, we're gonna match the WrestleMania XXXII thread!

Also, I'm slightly bemused by people not liking Charlotte. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion and all that, but five or six years ago when the likes of Kelly Kelly and Candice Michelle were what passed for a women's champion, we all probably would have been dying for someone like Charlotte to be pushed to the top. But I guess that's a testament to the talent that currently makes up the women's division in WWE.





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Agreed. We've got gals now that learned the role in the indies or are coming out of NXT after being trained by none other than Death Rey herself. Go back less than five years it was Diva Search winners (apologies to Layla and Eve who really did try hard) that got selected because Johnny Ace got aroused when saw them in a Hawaiian Tropic ad in Maxim or FHM. It's been a sea change with about a 180 degree turn where talent is finally being prioritized much higher than it was for a long time. It's like a golden age and yet somehow someone's complaining about how a girl that's getting prominent time on PPV's and about ten minutes a week on national TV shows is getting buried.





You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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Agree with Tex. Dom Protocols, yo. The FF button is the dislike button for shit you don't want to look at on a show you like to watch. Or, use Janerd Protocols where you pretend in your head moovies where the things you like actually happen and the real world can't hurt you there, like when I imagine what BvS would have been like with Billy Zane as Lex instead of that twitchy bag of Aspergers that was Jessie Eisenberg.





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Billy Zane wouldn't have worked as this was a reimagined Sillicon Valley-flavored Lex.Sticking a guy who looked like the Luthor from the animated series was going to lead to something different. Let it go janerd.

Yes, it's a shame Becky got over just to get cooled down but looking at the upcoing prospects, she's still one of the most talented and likeable wrestlers they can have and just needs one opening to catch fire again.

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Billy Zane wouldn't have worked as this was a reimagined Sillicon Valley-flavored Lex.Sticking a guy who looked like the Luthor from the animated series was going to lead to something different. Let it go janerd.

Yes, it's a shame Becky got over just to get cooled down but looking at the upcoing prospects, she's still one of the most talented and likeable wrestlers they can have and just needs one opening to catch fire again.


Then give him some Jeff Besos or Elon Musk seasoning instead of the bad gefilte fish version we got instead. Wait, wot did you say m8?!? Let. It. Go? Nev to the er, yo.



Also, something something Becky Lynch is getting buried. Please, continue.





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Ok, Elon Musk-lite Lex would have been great. The guy's life is pretty much exactly what Luthor would have wanted the world to view him as.

Any guesses on who'll feud with Dean after Battleground? Rollins and Reigns can keep on going themselves but who is left for Ambrose? Styles will likely still be tied to Cena and Bray is kind of meh option unless he undergoes a major change to justify being shot straight back to the top.

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A feud between Dean and AJ for the title would be full tits awesome for a while to have happen.





You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 7-24-2016 at 01:48 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I'm thinking Ambrose moves into a feud with Cena and Styles.

But not Becky Lynch.





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How the fuck has a Smackdown thread gotten up to nine pages? Okay, this whole Becky/Charlotte thing (which I have skimmed through) has highly contributed, but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this is the first and last time any WWE TV show generates this many pages of discussion. Though if we can get it up to 13, we're gonna match the WrestleMania XXXII thread!

Also, I'm slightly bemused by people not liking Charlotte. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion and all that, but five or six years ago when the likes of Kelly Kelly and Candice Michelle were what passed for a women's champion, we all probably would have been dying for someone like Charlotte to be pushed to the top. But I guess that's a testament to the talent that currently makes up the women's division in WWE.
So now we have to like Charlotte because they once had Kelly Kelly?(And don't insult Candice by lumping her in with Kelly. She was far better than Kelly and was really starting to come into her own when she broke her collarbone and basically ended her career). Who they hired in the past has nothing to do with the fact Charlotte is untalented and is only in the spot she is in because Ric Flair is her daddy.

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Billy Zane wouldn't have worked as this was a reimagined Sillicon Valley-flavored Lex.Sticking a guy who looked like the Luthor from the animated series was going to lead to something different. Let it go janerd.

Yes, it's a shame Becky got over just to get cooled down but looking at the upcoing prospects, she's still one of the most talented and likeable wrestlers they can have and just needs one opening to catch fire again.
I'm not getting burned by WWE's bullshit again. They have given me ZERO reason to believe they will ever push her hard.

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ETA: Also, here's Becks slumming with noted losers the New Day and AJ Styles at Comic-Con. Fux sake, I cann see wh� roy's gann all batty fer hair. Aye, lad she make Jann� h�rd too, boyo.



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How the fuck has a Smackdown thread gotten up to nine pages? Okay, this whole Becky/Charlotte thing (which I have skimmed through) has highly contributed, but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this is the first and last time any WWE TV show generates this many pages of discussion. Though if we can get it up to 13, we're gonna match the WrestleMania XXXII thread!

Also, I'm slightly bemused by people not liking Charlotte. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion and all that, but five or six years ago when the likes of Kelly Kelly and Candice Michelle were what passed for a women's champion, we all probably would have been dying for someone like Charlotte to be pushed to the top. But I guess that's a testament to the talent that currently makes up the women's division in WWE.
So now we have to like Charlotte because they once had Kelly Kelly?(And don't insult Candice by lumping her in with Kelly. She was far better than Kelly and was really starting to come into her own when she broke her collarbone and basically ended her career). Who they hired in the past has nothing to do with the fact Charlotte is untalented and is only in the spot she is in because Ric Flair is her daddy.


Where in my post did I say that anyone has to like Charlotte because the WWE once had Kelly Kelly? My point was that if Charlotte is currently the worst the WWE women's division has to offer, than the WWE women's division is doing pretty damn good. But hey, fingers crossed that they bring back the WWE Divas Challenge so that the next Candice Michelle can be discovered!

Oh God, now I'm getting dragged into this stupid debate. I...I have to go.





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Can we officially put this in the "Trainwreck of the Year" thread nominations yet? Or do we need more shitposting? Cuz I can help with either of those. Just let me know which I'm needed for.

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How the fuck has a Smackdown thread gotten up to nine pages? Okay, this whole Becky/Charlotte thing (which I have skimmed through) has highly contributed, but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this is the first and last time any WWE TV show generates this many pages of discussion. Though if we can get it up to 13, we're gonna match the WrestleMania XXXII thread!

Also, I'm slightly bemused by people not liking Charlotte. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion and all that, but five or six years ago when the likes of Kelly Kelly and Candice Michelle were what passed for a women's champion, we all probably would have been dying for someone like Charlotte to be pushed to the top. But I guess that's a testament to the talent that currently makes up the women's division in WWE.
So now we have to like Charlotte because they once had Kelly Kelly?(And don't insult Candice by lumping her in with Kelly. She was far better than Kelly and was really starting to come into her own when she broke her collarbone and basically ended her career). Who they hired in the past has nothing to do with the fact Charlotte is untalented and is only in the spot she is in because Ric Flair is her daddy.


Where in my post did I say that anyone has to like Charlotte because the WWE once had Kelly Kelly? My point was that if Charlotte is currently the worst the WWE women's division has to offer, than the WWE women's division is doing pretty damn good. But hey, fingers crossed that they bring back the WWE Divas Challenge so that the next Candice Michelle can be discovered!

Oh God, now I'm getting dragged into this stupid debate. I...I have to go.
Where did I say anything about the WWE Diva Search? All I said was Candice was improving when she had the collarbone injury and she was not nearly as bad as Kelly Kelly was. Somehow that translate to me wanting another Diva Search? But hey, anything for Charlotte fans to spin the subject in to keep up their delusion that Charlotte actually got her spot on merit and not because of who her father was.

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posted on 7-24-2016 at 10:57 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Royberto, you can't keep making claims of "fact" from unsubstantiated information. I call Bullshit on Charlotte being Ric Flair daughter without you providing DNA test results. Until then let the fantasy go man! It's over.





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Where did I say anything about the WWE Diva Search? All I said was Candice was improving when she had the collarbone injury and she was not nearly as bad as Kelly Kelly was. Somehow that translate to me wanting another Diva Search? But hey, anything for Charlotte fans to spin the subject in to keep up their delusion that Charlotte actually got her spot on merit and not because of who her father was.


Where in my post did I say that you specifically wanted another Divas Search? And when did I say that I was a Charlotte fan and tried to justify why she has her spot? I'm confused.

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