OORick
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Rumor Crap 2017, pt. 1: The First Hot Steaming Slice!
Time to reset all these threads for 2017, kids.
I'll leave it to the less-snarky to kick off the TNA and Lucha Underground threads when it is appropriate to do so, and I'll take
responsibility for this one and the first RAW one (today), the first SD/205 one (Tuesday), and the new NXT one (Wednesday).
A few news items (some may be from the old thread, a few may be new):
Last week, SmackDown both drew more live fans and more TV viewers than RAW, for the first time since the very first week of the brand split. Of
course, this is being attributed internally to nothing other than John Cena. Which is probably (if depressingly) accurate.
Paige is in Tampa, FL, tonight, which is site of RAW. While nowhere near ready to compete, WWE is said to want to find some non-wrestling use for her,
on the grounds that Paige sort of thought her behavior would lead to her getting to sit at home and collect her guarantee until her contract expired,
and WWE doesn't want to let that happen.
Both the Undertaker and Shawn Michaels are being advertised for NEXT week's RAW. Michaels is steadfast in not working any actual match (despite
the big tease that AJ Styles laid out a few months back), but could be a fit as a guest ref. Taker could enter the Rumble Match, or have some other,
more active, role that sets the wheels in motion for his WM Storyline (widely rumored to be a match against Cena).
Out of nowhere, New Orleans has emerged as a leading candidate for WrestleMania 34. The SuperDome just hosted WM30 (unless you are the Hulkster, in
which case, that was actually the SilverDome, brother!).
Ronda Rousey's KO loss on Friday may be the end of her UFC career. Contrary to Jonathan Coachman's mind-bending theories about Rousey
being "broken merchandise" (and the silly schadenfreuede being exhibited by many of your douchier fans, who take pleasure in Rousey's fall
from grace), this actually does nothing but improve her chances of lucrative future WWE appearances.
Kurt Angle is telling people he's headed back to WWE, and is not taking any indie bookings past late March.
WWE, obviously, skipped the Slammys this year. There was no clear vision on how to execute them, given the Brand Split. It is possible that after a
year off, each brand will do its own version of an awards show, or that WWE will reboot the Slammys as a WWE Network standalone deal, geared a bit
more towards non-rigged awards and the "smart" fans. The thinking is that WWE Network has already usurped the title of "best indie" with NXT, and
trumped every other attemtped Hall of Fame with their own HoF presentation, so maybe, just maybe, in January 2018, you'll see an awards show
where WWE actually tries to honor the best performers and performances across ALL their platforms (RAW, SD, NXT, 205, UK, and their semi-secret indie
affiliations), and screw anyone for putting any stock in those PWI or Meltzer awards.
In the meantime, WWE.com nudged things in that direction, by putting out their list of the top 25 matches of 2017. The top two matches were both from
NXT (Zayn/Nakamura from Dallas, and Revival/DIY Best of 3 Falls), which is a definitely wink and a nudge in our direction. Maybe the entire LIST was a
bit too much in that direction.... I mean, Shane/Taker was nowhere to be seen, and while it was a shitty "wrestling match," it was easily one of the
top 25 "sports entertainment segments" of the year. And I definitely would have campaigned to get Ziggler/Miz moved up several spots, too.
That's enough to get the ball rolling, I think....
Rick
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G-Spot
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Paige at RAM tonite....
[Edited on 1-2-2017 by G-Spot]
"G-Spot rocks the g-spot!!!
**Ghandi (Clone High)**
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lz4005
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quote:
Originally posted by OORick
I'll leave it to the less-snarky to kick off the TNA and Lucha Underground threads when it is appropriate to do so
We've been going season by season on LU. There's nowhere near enough posts to need a new one before they go on hiatus. Unless
there's some admin thing that necessitates.
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OORick
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quote:
Originally posted by lz4005
quote:
Originally posted by OORick
I'll leave it to the less-snarky to kick off the TNA and Lucha Underground threads when it is appropriate to do so
We've been going season by season on LU. There's nowhere near enough posts to need a new one before they go on hiatus. Unless
there's some admin thing that necessitates.
Correct you are. LU Season 3 restored.
TNA, though? Ball's in your court, people who didn't think that episode 2 weeks ago was very silly!
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Paddlefoot
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* ADR got arrested in Austria on Friday night Dec 30; he and his brother were involved in a brawl at a nightclub then they started fighting each other
at the police station; ADR apparently popped the handcuffs or zip-ties they first had on him and they had to put ankle shackles on his wrists to
restrain him 
http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2017/0102/620849/alberto-del-rio-reportedly-arrested-after-club-brawl-in-austria/
* interesting analysis here on why Ronda Rousey would be a poor fit in WWE
http://411mania.com/wrestling/why-ronda-rousey-would-fail-in-wwe/
[Edited on 1/3/2017 by Paddlefoot]
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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royberto
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Finally viewed WWE's new PTI inspired show on the network, Bring it to the Table. I think it can work. OF ocurse, many smakrs all over the
internet are already getting their panties in a major way because Paul Heyman gave them a savage verbal beatdown. It does seem to have a unusual mix
of shoot and kayfabe talking and can't seem to decide which direction they want to go.
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Gobshite
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"Finally viewed"??
It only debuted last night didn't it?
I'll watch it later, if for no other reason than Peter Rosenberg is hosting it.
I have six invites I can crash out for membership to pwtorrents.net - if you want one, U2U me!
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Count Zero
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quote:
Originally posted by Gobshite
"Finally viewed"??
It only debuted last night didn't it?
Yup, it did only debut last night after RAM, so as usual, berto is a good boy, he done nothins wrong.
I think that's how it goes? It's Janerd's line, not mine, but it fits.
"It's a WWE tradition, to do something un-right." --Paddlefoot
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merc
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If Berto in fact viewed the show, and evidence indicates he did... Why is it a rumor? FFSF lets start this year off right. SMFI
"I wish sarcasm was available as a font." John Stuart Mill
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Paddlefoot
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* charges against Jimmy Snuka were fully dropped today as the judge in the murder & manslaughter case against him agreed with both the defense and
prosecution that he is in no mental or physical shape to be tried and sentenced for the death of Nancy Argentino back in 1983
* WWE had an extreme attack of pettiness at last night's RAW and forced stadium officials in Tampa to move well-known super-fan Tye Dye Guy out
of the camera's focus because he was dressed up like Hulk Hogan
* despite being under new ownership by Anthem, TNA staffers still haven't been paid yet for the work they did for the October Impact tapings;
they have to wait until a payment from Sony Six in India is made before they get their pay
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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Flash
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If the WWE is punting Hogan fans off camera then I'm guessing that those rumours out of Hogan's daughter a few months back about how her
dad was going to be at WM aren't true.
It's a shame that Snuka can't stand trial; I'm sure from everyone from the victims family, to Snuka and his family they would have
all liked to see some closure from this... For the Argentino family they'll just have to make due with the fact that the grand jury inquest was
said to be extremely thorough (owing as much to the 32 year delay in justice) and opted to proceed with charges probably being a decent chance that he
would be found guilty, and that his days upright are numbered right now at about 6 months.
For what its worth his in ring legacy took a hit as well, as once the charges went through the WWE gave him the Hogan treatment and disappeared him
from their HOF.
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janerd75
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Dunno about the Hogan one considering that the advertising for 'Bring it to the Table' last night on RAM regarding the type of questions
that will be addressed on the show included one in the ballpark of "Will Hulk Hogan ever return to WWE?". Methinks that's about as
Chekhov's Gun as WWE gets as far as telegraphing the answer. Which will eventually turn out to be 'yes' because otherwise why even
mention his name in that context? If they shun him or just bring up his name just to say, "No, he'll never be back" he's got enough
'fuck you' money to be petty to Vince right back.
Outside of what I think of him as a person, he's still important to the historical aspects of the proceedings and considering they're on
short supply when it comes to relatively non-offensive Legends like Dusty, Piper, and whatever remains of Flair's wetbrained psyche.
As an aside and in retrospect, Hogan's overall mental health (lol) relative to his more workrate capable peers basically indicts him as a
useless load in the ring considering he's only really suffered physically from hip, back, and racist mouth issues while the rest of the boys
ultimately got severe head trauma for their efforts. Geez, I can't wait until he's welcomed back with open arms. 
"Well, life's a bitch n' then you marry one. Alls you know now is you're goin' into the bar tonight to get just fuckin'
interplanetary." - Wayne (Letterkenny)
"This is the water and this is the well. Drink full and descend. The horse is the white of the eyes, dark within." The Woodsman
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Flash
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Oh I'm not saying Hogan won't ever be back, just that signs point to him riding the bench for while more... I've always thought that
the WWE dropping Hogan because of private comments (however reprehensible it may be) was a mistake, as him going on speaking engagements as part of
their be a star program, and rehabbing him publicly would have far more value; both to the company and to a greater good where we don't just
sweep things under the rug pretend they didn't happen, and then when enough time goes by bring him back and really pretend it didn't
happen. You could even suspend his legends contract and any merch' sales... anyway... old news, and we've all debated this already... but
yeah, he'll be back... just probably not yet.
*In other news...
ADR is in shit again; a bar fight in Austria this time where he and his brother apparently quite badly beat up a third guy; ADR and his brother then
either fought each other, or were taken to a local police station where they then fought one another.... man, what's this 3 fights in the last
six months for ADR? Maybe the WWE was actually trying to be kind of a caring boss by getting Paige to split from ADR...
[Edited on 1-4-2017 by Flash]
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williamssl
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Wait....so not only did ADR get in the fight you reference....but he ALSO got busted for an earlier fight that Pads referenced this morning?
Shit...whoever set his bail didn't set it high enough....or some poor schmuck is out whatever they teed up as bail. money.
quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
* ADR got arrested in Austria on Friday night Dec 30; he and his brother were involved in a brawl at a nightclub then they started fighting each other
at the police station; ADR apparently popped the handcuffs or zip-ties they first had on him and they had to put ankle shackles on his wrists to
restrain him
http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2017/0102/620849/alberto-del-rio-reportedly-arrested-after-club-brawl-in-austria/
Don't Mess With Texas
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Flash
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Yeah... that ADR, what a trouble maker....
That, or I missed Pad's post 
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royberto
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quote:
Originally posted by Count Zero
quote:
Originally posted by Gobshite
"Finally viewed"??
It only debuted last night didn't it?
Yup, it did only debut last night after RAM, so as usual, berto is a good boy, he done nothins wrong.
I think that's how it goes? It's Janerd's line, not mine, but it fits.
I viewed it when I got home from works which was a
few hours after it aired. So, I will
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CamstunPWG187
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Man, can't we just ban him? I got banned like twice between 2006 and 2010 (the second time was highly debatable), and I straightened my act up.
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merc
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Now that's one spiffy pic Berto's got. I hear (see its a rumor (no "u") thread and this is a rumor (no "u") he stole it off the
interweb and did not make it himself.
Cam, banning someone is sooo last decade. The OOUniverse is desperate for residents so law and order have gone to hell.
"I wish sarcasm was available as a font." John Stuart Mill
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Thom
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If no ban, then how about a custom status of "Cunt"? Or would the custom status be too "cool" for him?
#GLENNSURVIVESLOL - Cherokee Jack, from TWD Season 6 thread
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royberto
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quote:
Originally posted by Flash
If the WWE is punting Hogan fans off camera then I'm guessing that those rumours out of Hogan's daughter a few months back about how her
dad was going to be at WM aren't true.
Ecept that they are punting any fans that are cosplaying. The last time The Rock was on Raw, they
punted 4 guys who were cosplaying and one was dressed up as the Undertaker while one was dressed up as The Rock, neither of which are in a bad
relationship with WWE. What is actually happening is they don't want cosplay people in front of the hard camera drawing attention away from what
is happening in the ring. It does not matter who they are dressed up as.
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royberto
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quote:
Originally posted by merc
Cam, banning someone is sooo last decade. The OOUniverse is desperate for residents so law and order have gone to hell.
This is very
fascinating. They take personal shots at me. Then when I respond and call out their trolling, they whine about wanting me banned. It seems they can
dish it out, but they can't take it.
[Edited on 1-4-2017 by royberto]
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Ortonmustdie
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I'm pretty sure it's a kind of hazing, roy. They give ya shit, and if you can keep up with 'em, sooner or later they'll
either embrace you, or ignore you completely.
Of course, I could be wrong.
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Paddlefoot
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It's the obsessive hatred for Charlotte and the belief in a massive bury-Becky-Lynch conspiracy that makes it all possible.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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Count Zero
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quote:
Originally posted by royberto
That's fine. I was talking ABOUT you, not TO you. Though I can understand you don't know the difference, since you
don't seem to handle rational discussions very well -- clinging to your opinions (which you often try-and-fail-to-disguise as "popular
opinion" or "fact") wherever it suits you best. 
If there were an ignore list here, I wouldn't even be aware you existed anymore. Take solace in that if you will.
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royberto
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quote:
Originally posted by Ortonmustdie
I'm pretty sure it's a kind of hazing, roy. They give ya shit, and if you can keep up with 'em, sooner or later they'll
either embrace you, or ignore you completely.
Of course, I could be wrong.
You are wrong. They can dish shit out, but they have proven they can't take it. So, I am just going to
ignore their trolling from now on.
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