Matte
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President Trump: How does it end?
Just a fun little poll to gauge the community. There's already plenty of Trump threads, so don't feel required to add words to your vote.
Or if you want to invoke your right to free speech while you still have it, fire away!
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merc
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I fear he's walking dead.
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salmonjunkie
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Remember, he could be impeached and still have any of the others happen. Impeachment doesn't mean he gets fired from his job. It means he goes
to court. Happened to Bill Clinton and Andrew Jackson. Nixon was impeached but, he didn't stop becoming president until he resigned.
There's also the option that he could pass away due to natural causes, since he's old.
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BBMN
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Nuclear Winter?
Seriously though, if he continues at this rate, he won't get re-elected. Trade war with China. Hand jobs with Putin. Actual war with Iran.
Economic instability. Endless attacks on the media. He's literally the least favorably viewed president at this point in his term, as any
president ever.
Your first four options are basically all equally likely.
[Edited on 1-26-2017 by BBMN]
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Quentil
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We are going to invade Mexico, occupy parts of the Middle East, and limit voting and the environment at home. Tens of thousands will die in the first
year, and huge voting fraud will "happen" to be found in every state that voted Democrat, having Trump impose martial law. Or at least try to. By
this point, most rednecks will have been formed into Trump Patriots, a haphazard militia that will attack local infrastructure and governmental
buildings, followed by personal Trump security forces hired with government money to work as mercenaries for the new Trump Order.
Eventually, states like New York and California will mobilize state militias and unite with others, with a strikingly similar north/south dynamic
appearing for the most part. They will lock down the nuclear assets and put them in control of a neutral element of the military, and the gloves will
come off.
Washington DC rebels against Trump, and Trump flees to Houston to set up a new capital city. After two and a half years of warfare, in which
Trump's loyalists commit countless massacres on Hispanics, African-Americans, and much raping of women, they are beaten back. Houston is
leveled, with Trump catching a plane to exile to spend the remaining years of his life in Russia, with 50 billion dollars in assets stolen from the
nation while he was president.
Meanwhile, Russia and China both use this distraction to advance their interests. A united Europe, coupled with some elements of the US military,
successfully counter Russian aggression in the Balkans and Baltics, although Ukraine is torn apart in the process, become split along the lines of
North and South Korea.
China will push for their version of the TPP, cutting the United States out much as the US attempted to cut China out. By the time Trump's War
ends, China will have de facto control over most of southeast Asia economically, with only Japan and Australia forming a bulwark against them when
possible.
Meanwhile, North and South Korea get blown up, leaving nothing but a toxic hole on the map for generations.
Africa will continue to starve and die to disease.
In about six years, you'll see a world where a weakened but still viable EU opposes Russia, where China eventually retakes Taiwan, and a new
cold war between them and Japan starts. Russia will still be fighting in Ukraine and looking for ways to undermine the United European Defense Pact
(UEDP), which was born from the ashes of NATO, while the UEDP funnels in weapons into Ukraine and Georgia, essentially keeping them as buffers against
a renewed Russian threat in the same way Russia used them a decade before.
Once the United States re-enters the world scene, they will be courted by the various powers and will likely try to keep a detente with China while
they fortify the Eastern European Front and demand the handover of Donald Trump.
After Trump dies mysteriously while in Russian custody, a gathering of world leaders in Vienna agree, over weeks of talks, to establish a new order,
in which the US, China, EU, Russia, India, and Japan are dominant, which much of the rest of the world still in a second-class existence, being
exploited by the stronger power blocks.
With the melting ice caps now at critical mass and the oceans rising form climate change, the focus for the next decade after this will be to try to
build up defenses against the weather. Meanwhile, the Middle East will still be a shithole.
[Edited on 1-26-2017 by Quentil]
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CCharger
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quote:
Originally posted by Quentil
We are going to invade Mexico, occupy parts of the Middle East, and limit voting and the environment at home. Tens of thousands will die in the first
year, and huge voting fraud will "happen" to be found in every state that voted Democrat, having Trump impose martial law. Or at least try to. By
this point, most rednecks will have been formed into Trump Patriots, a haphazard militia that will attack local infrastructure and governmental
buildings, followed by personal Trump security forces hired with government money to work as mercenaries for the new Trump Order.
Eventually, states like New York and California will mobilize state militias and unite with others, with a strikingly similar north/south dynamic
appearing for the most part. They will lock down the nuclear assets and put them in control of a neutral element of the military, and the gloves will
come off.
Washington DC rebels against Trump, and Trump flees to Houston to set up a new capital city. After two and a half years of warfare, in which
Trump's loyalists commit countless massacres on Hispanics, African-Americans, and much raping of women, they are beaten back. Houston is
leveled, with Trump catching a plane to exile to spend the remaining years of his life in Russia, with 50 billion dollars in assets stolen from the
nation while he was president.
Meanwhile, Russia and China both use this distraction to advance their interests. A united Europe, coupled with some elements of the US military,
successfully counter Russian aggression in the Balkans and Baltics, although Ukraine is torn apart in the process, become split along the lines of
North and South Korea.
China will push for their version of the TPP, cutting the United States out much as the US attempted to cut China out. By the time Trump's War
ends, China will have de facto control over most of southeast Asia economically, with only Japan and Australia forming a bulwark against them when
possible.
Meanwhile, North and South Korea get blown up, leaving nothing but a toxic hole on the map for generations.
Africa will continue to starve and die to disease.
In about six years, you'll see a world where a weakened but still viable EU opposes Russia, where China eventually retakes Taiwan, and a new
cold war between them and Japan starts. Russia will still be fighting in Ukraine and looking for ways to undermine the United European Defense Pact
(UEDP), which was born from the ashes of NATO, while the UEDP funnels in weapons into Ukraine and Georgia, essentially keeping them as buffers against
a renewed Russian threat in the same way Russia used them a decade before.
Once the United States re-enters the world scene, they will be courted by the various powers and will likely try to keep a detente with China while
they fortify the Eastern European Front and demand the handover of Donald Trump.
After Trump dies mysteriously while in Russian custody, a gathering of world leaders in Vienna agree, over weeks of talks, to establish a new order,
in which the US, China, EU, Russia, India, and Japan are dominant, which much of the rest of the world still in a second-class existence, being
exploited by the stronger power blocks.
With the melting ice caps now at critical mass and the oceans rising form climate change, the focus for the next decade after this will be to try to
build up defenses against the weather. Meanwhile, the Middle East will still be a shithole.
[Edited on 1-26-2017 by Quentil]
I would read the shit out of this dystopian novel.
"She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted."
"The powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned."
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Quentil
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quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
I would read the shit out of this dystopian novel.
Haha, yeah. It was fun to type it up. I even expanded on it in the vein of it being a book after I put it up here. Most of this is the same, but
there's some new tidbits of fun thrown in. I chopped it down a bit of stuff that wasn't changed from above:
The what if of Trump going full-on Fascist? Hmm.
We are going to invade Mexico, occupy parts of the Middle East, and limit voting and the environment at home. Tens of thousands will die in the first
year, and huge voting fraud will "happen" to be found in every state that voted Democrat, having Trump impose martial law. Or at least try to. By
this point, most rednecks will have been formed into "Trump's Patriots", a haphazard militia that will attack local infrastructure and
governmental buildings, followed by personal Trump security forces hired with government money to work as mercenaries for the new Trump Order. At
first, he will have control of much of the standing US military as well.
There will be an initial feeling out process of uncertainty, followed by near simultaneous flash points literally in every neighborhood in every city.
Eventually, states like New York and California will mobilize state militias and unite with others, with a strikingly similar original civil war
north/south dynamic appearing for the most part. (Although some areas, like "Fortress Austin" would hold out deep behind enemy lines for the
duration of the war,) They will lock down the nuclear assets and put them in control of a neutral element of the military, and the gloves will come
off.
Main early battles include a drive up the eastern coast towards NYC, with Philly falling to Trump's forces for a period of time before being
liberated in a counterattack. St. Louis becomes a besieged Leningrad, LA breaks down into race war. Initial Trump push ends at NYC...where a million
die inside of three months...before falling back eventually to Dover and Baltimore in the face of counterattack in the form of returning troops from
Europe and freshly trained draftees, where the initial front lines will stabilize.
The battles then shift to Trump trying to take missile silos, to the differences in life between the two sides as each calls up (war at home type
stuff), before the industrial Seattle and Great Lakes region starts cranking out material, and liberals finally realize they can use their brains for
tactics in addition to being ironic and discussing vinyl.
Washington DC rebels against Trump, and Trump flees to Houston to set up a new capital city. After two and a half years of warfare, in which
Trump's loyalists commit countless massacres on Hispanics and African-Americans, along with much raping of women, they are beaten back. Houston
is leveled, with Trump catching a plane to exile to spend the remaining years of his life in Russia, with 50 billion dollars in assets stolen from the
nation while he was president.
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Yeah, I might be a bit of a nerd with such what ifs. 
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OOMike
The Great One
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quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
Remember, he could be impeached and still have any of the others happen. Impeachment doesn't mean he gets fired from his job. It means he goes
to court. Happened to Bill Clinton and Andrew Jackson. Nixon was impeached but, he didn't stop becoming president until he resigned.
There's also the option that he could pass away due to natural causes, since he's old.
Andrew Johnson, not Jackson.
Nixon was technically never impeached, he was going to be impeached and convicted by the senate and removed from office, so instead he resigned and
was pardoned by Ford.
2017 where Nazis are defended and being against Fascism is a bad thing.
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salmonjunkie
Best There Is Was or Ever Will Be
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quote:
Originally posted by OOMike
quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
Remember, he could be impeached and still have any of the others happen. Impeachment doesn't mean he gets fired from his job. It means he goes
to court. Happened to Bill Clinton and Andrew Jackson. Nixon was impeached but, he didn't stop becoming president until he resigned.
There's also the option that he could pass away due to natural causes, since he's old.
Andrew Johnson, not Jackson.
Nixon was technically never impeached, he was going to be impeached and convicted by the senate and removed from office, so instead he resigned and
was pardoned by Ford.
Oh duh, that's right. Wrong Andrew. Old white presidents from yesteryear all look the same to me.
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GodEatGod
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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I mean, Andrew Jackson probably should've been impeached, that guy was a fucking psycho.
"It is an impressively arrogant move to conclude that just because you don't like something, it is empirically not good. I don't like
Chinese food, but I don't write articles trying to prove it doesn't exist." - Tina Fey
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Chris Is Good517
Best There Is Was or Ever Will Be 
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I think Trump being forced from office is inevitable, it's just a matter of how long. The minute Congressmen start losing money because of
Trump's recklessness and insanity, they're going to be up Paul Ryan's ass to take care of his business. I initially thought two
years; but after this dumpster fire of a first week and Trump barely concealing that he's skipping down the path to a complete mental breakdown,
I'm actually starting to think it might be sooner than that.
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Figure Foreskin as Andy the Smarmy Host and Chris Is Good517 as Cousin Balki.
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williamssl
Steers and Queers
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
I think Trump being forced from office is inevitable, it's just a matter of how long.
This. I think the right betting/poll options are about picking the time window that this happens in during this current 4-year term. Do it in 6
month increments. 0-6, 7-12, 13-18, etc. Of course one of the options can be 'makes it all 4 years' which would have long odds on it.
My bet would be months 25-30, so just after the 2-year mark and the '18 elections. Unless he's majorly delivered on the economy,
immigration/domestic security....the house will flip and there ya go.
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G. Jonah Jameson
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I think we'll see Congressional Republicans turn on Trump sooner than that. They know he's an apocalypse waiting to happen, but
they're not going to cross him until they've convinced him to rubber-stamp the keystone parts of their agenda -- massive tax cuts for the
rich, deep cuts to social services, heavy-handed voter suppression, removal of protections for LGBTQ, etc. Once that stuff is accomplished,
they'll have no more use for him. Though I don't think they'll actually go for impeachment if they can help it. They'll just
find the political equivalent of a ball of string for him to play with.
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Flash
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If we see a well timed terrorist attack on US soil, I'm a bit saddened by the fact that enough people could get behind him that he could be in
there for a while... too soon for the conspiracy theories, and/or the looming path of destruction he is pushing America down?
For what it's worth at least in week 1 it sounds like he's planning on 8 years in office, as some aides were told to settle in for the
long haul.
I know Hitler comparisons are generally laughed off as hyperbole, but there are some very real and stark comparisons to their early days.
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denverpunk
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quote:
Originally posted by GodEatGod
I mean, Andrew Jackson probably should've been impeached, that guy was a fucking psycho.
Yep. The Trail of Tears is all on that racist asshole.
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Paddlefoot
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Not really. The National Socialist German Workers Party actually had a much more moral set of social policies (for full-blood Aryans anyway) than the
Republican Party has had since Eisenhower. And, no, that's not a joke.
quote:
How does it end?
In fire and blood. And it's just beginning. Here's to perpetual rule by bible-thump gooberism fully wedded to capitalist rape
'n' rob. Oh, look, here comes the gilded class, baybays.
[Edited on 1/28/2017 by Paddlefoot]
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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the goon
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I think he makes it through all four years. The guy rode a wave of insanity all the way to the White House and can seemingly get away with anything,
so I see no reason why that changes during his presidency.
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Cherokee Jack
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Agreed that I don't think he makes it through the term. Could be for any number of reasons. As noted, he is really old. He's also not very
interested in carrying out the responsibilities as president, and could easily get bored and resign at any time. Impeachment/forced resignation under
threat of impeachment is also very much in play.
Republicans did indeed ride his wave of insanity, but now they have control of everything, and a "traditional" Republican right there in Pence to
take over if/when Trump disappears. They won't want to fuck it up if the movement that may have begun on the day after the inauguration actually
keeps up and doesn't fade away. And you know that he's involved in enough shady shit that they could easily launch proceedings any time
they want. I don't think it happens before midterm elections (those favor Republicans to begin with, and they won't want to piss off the
Trump True Believer bloc), but shortly after that they could easily take him out and start trying to present President Pence as a credible choice for
2020.
So that's my prediction. If he doesn't die or lose interest and walk away in the next two years, the GOP launches their own offensive to
either remove him or force his resignation during year three. Either way, there's a better chance than not that someone else is president
between now and 1/19/21.
I'm Cherokee Jack!
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punkerhardcore
American Dream 
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You guys are all nuts. I hope he's president for eight years. It's barely been a week and it's already amazing.
Who cares that Ringling Bros. is closed down now. This circus is way more entertaining.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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janerd75
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quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
You guys are all nuts. I hope he's president for eight years. It's barely been a week and it's already amazing.
Who cares that Ringling Bros. is closed down now. This circus is way more entertaining.
"It will happen when it happens and not a moment before." - Me
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
You guys are all nuts. I hope he's president for eight years. It's barely been a week and it's already amazing.
Who cares that Ringling Bros. is closed down now. This circus is way more entertaining.
Any thoughts on the Calexit movement? Seems fairly easy for the other side to drop the ace of spades on Cali just by shutting off the flow of the
Colorado River at the Nevada border.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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bopol
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quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
You guys are all nuts. I hope he's president for eight years. It's barely been a week and it's already amazing.
Who cares that Ringling Bros. is closed down now. This circus is way more entertaining.
Any thoughts on the Calexit movement? Seems fairly easy for the other side to drop the ace of spades on Cali just by shutting off the flow of the
Colorado River at the Nevada border.
California is not going anywhere. Honestly, if you start splitting up the US, you could form probably 5 or 6 areas with roughly equal interests. You
would have the West Coast (California, Wash & Oregon). The central states (every thing west of that until and slightly past the Mississippi), the
Midwest, the old Confederacy, the Northeast. Split PA & NY in half and it works pretty well.
If you did this, my biggest question would be what would VA & NC do because I think that a lot of their residents would rather be in the NE than the
old Confederacy.
Now, of course, if they did this, Canada would invade the Midwest for the Great Lakes and Mexico would probably attack the Central States to get
revenge on the Mexican-American War.
So, as I have shown, if California left, Canada would become a superpower and we Americans can't let that happen because most of us don't
know who Justin Treadeau is (or how to spell his name).
I only signed up so I can read the forum.
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bopol
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quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
Who cares that Ringling Bros. is closed down now. This circus is way more entertaining.
I like my politics boring and my wrestling interesting. We're living in a backwards world right now.
I only signed up so I can read the forum.
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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Canada can't invade anyone. We burnt out all our men and equipment in Afghanistan playing coalition participant from 2002 on up. Our hip young
L'il Potato of a prime minister's idea is for us to return to peacekeeping, with the first assignment sending our guys basically unarmed
into the mountains of the Sinai peninsula, which are absolutely crawling with all sorts of ISIS and Al Qaeda. Ought to make for some interesting
beheading videos if an idea this stupid gets put into motion. 
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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Flash
The Great One
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Also our Navy is like a canoe with a shotgun tied to it, and our air force still makes use of zeppelin technology... or maybe that's just what
Canada wants you Yank's to think as we've been developing this whole polite and apologetic cover and slowly seed the USA with a large
number of wrestlers and other celebrities all while building up our weapons of mass canucktion.
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