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posted on 5-22-2017 at 04:09 AM
Looks gruesome-er than the previous two seasons, and adding Dayton Callies can only help. They'll still be the dumbest bunch of core characters
on TV though, worse than the mother show or anything else going right now. Gonna strictly be a hate-watch out of loyalty to the genre. Sigh.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 5-22-2017 at 04:42 AM
I will give it props for what looks like scope expansion and militia-y goodness. Not that I'm taking notes or anything. Would love to get muh
hands on some of that hardware they showed, but I'm not a Saudi Prince.
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posted on 5-22-2017 at 06:26 AM
Eh, I'll watch it. And probably during the first showing most of the time. But it's more because of the fact that Sunday nights are a
social gathering kind of night for me, and we all like zombies and The Walking Dead and all tolerate Fear the Walking Dead while MST3King it at the
same time.
I don't hate the show. But if it was on any other night, I'd likely binge-watch it once a year.
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posted on 6-5-2017 at 07:13 AM
Bah. Still such crap. Random stupid camera angles. Still unable to give all of a few seconds so the important question of "why are you guys doing
this?" that the characters should be asking whenever they end up in these half-assed situations can be answered. Cliff Curtis is probably pretty
happy though. "wOOt! I am the fuck outta here! ".
[Edited on 6/5/2017 by Paddlefoot]
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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posted on 6-5-2017 at 07:10 PM
Eh, I liked the first two episodes for what they are worth. Parts of them made no sense. The characters splitting off in the middle of the night and
the like, dragging a girl halfway across the mountains only to try to shoot her the moment they get to the base, the sheer and obvious lack of safety
of the new base the heroes are in itself being some of them. The new hq is seriously lacking in even basic defenses. Being remote isn't gonna
save you forever.
Also, how in the hell did all those zombies at the army base overrun the place so quickly? Weren't they all essentially coming from one
building? Ah well.
That said, the bar for this show is low enough for me personally that I can enjoy bits of it. The death was a real surprise, and at least the group
is back together and seemingly realizes they are in s shit location with few options and is fine with making their own options. A few of the zombie
kills and fight scenes were worthwhile. The spoon to the eye was great.
I'd say it's a good start for the show, even if it's pretty mediocre at the same time.
[Edited on 6-5-2017 by Quentil]
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posted on 6-5-2017 at 09:16 PM
Yea, barbed wire fences will hold back walker hordes. The military base looked like a much better place to stay, concrete walls and all. Although,
somehow walkers climbed into the walls from the sewers.
I thought Travis was injured during his pit fight, and then shot in the neck. But no. According to the showrunner, he caught a bullet through the butt
that exited his neck. Not very good writing, if it needed to be explained on the post show. Of course, most of this show is bad writing.
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posted on 6-6-2017 at 05:38 AM
Now the two most annoying characters are dead. It has to get better, right? Right!?!? Somebody lie to me plz.
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posted on 6-10-2017 at 06:48 AM
I just seen't the second episode tonight. Somehow I made it through the past week hearing there was going to be a major death without finding
out who it was. I figured it would be Strand, Alecia, or Travis. I read a while back Cliff Curtis was not necessarily exiting the show but he was
getting involved in some other film/tv show so as soon as he got shot I knew there would be no intense rescue and/or get-him-to-the-medic sequence.
Makes sense from a character standpoint, I suppose. After Chris got killed and he made peace with Madison there wasn't really much else for him
to do. I always kinda saw him as the Lori of this show with Madison having the better arc as this show's Rick.
Also, I figured they didn't need much of a fence considering it looked like the compound was surrounded by a decent-sized ravine. The fence
kinda seemed like a secondary defense which bottlenecked at the entrance with the road in/out as the only access.
I think Strand and Madison are the reasons I keep watching. I like their dynamic and I'm certainly curious as to what magnificent leaps in logic
and reality the show's going go through to reunite the two as though southern California and Mexico are only a couple hundred acres in size.
Alicia's, like, hot n' shit, but that ornery goddamn crackhead brother of hers is no doubt going to start some unnecessary shit to move
the plot along. And how, praytell, are the going to "take over" if they don't get their way? Fuck's sake Lady Rick, the dude
acknowledged you took the gun and not only let you sign it out but put a roof over your ungrateful heads.
And did Not The Murder Brother accidentally shoot his sister or was she turned somehow? The lighting of that scene, while probably meant to be
confusing, went to plaid a bit too hard and was difficult for me to tell what the fuck was going on.
Of all the things in that episode that were cool to see was a Deadwood reunion betwixt Charlie and Joanie. Man, Powers Boothe would have rocked it on
this type of show.
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quote:Originally posted by janerd75
And how, praytell, are the going to "take over" if they don't get their way? Fuck's sake Lady Rick, the dude acknowledged you took the
gun and not only let you sign it out but put a roof over your ungrateful heads.
That scene was so fucking laughable that I don't even know where to begin.
On the parent show, when Rick & Co. first show up in Alexandria and he says that they'll take over if they have to, I absolutely believed him.
Because we'd spent 5-6 years of watching that crew be bad motherfuckers and tear shit up, plus the folks in Alexandria were clearly unprepared
for what the world had actually become. And they damn sure weren't prepared for a mutiny assault by Rick.
Madison making that same threat was such an eyeball rolling, are-you-kidding-me moment, because:
--There's only three of them, and what looked like dozens and dozens of the other members of that compound.
--They don't know what they're doing.
--The three of them are really, really, really fucking stupid beyond belief.
Seriously, when Nick pulled that gun on that dude to save his girlfriend, I really wanted Dayton Callie to just say, "Ok son... even IF you get one
shot off, these 15 other guys with their guns trained on you are going to put you down a half second later. Then, they're going to shoot your
girlfriend in the face immediately after that. And then just for kicks, we may or may not murder your mom and sister." Honestly, what the fuck did
he hope to accomplish with that move? It only worked out of sheer luck for him.
And that's what kinda pisses me off about this show. Madison saying, "we'll take this place over" will probably end up happening. Not
because the three of them come up with some amazing, savvy plan and outwit everyone else, but the writers will make everyone else sink down to their
idiot level and do mind-numbingly stupid ass shit, so that everything works out for them. Jesus H. I get all upset just thinking about it.
Also, either this show isn't very memorable, or I need a big time refresher on it... because I couldn't remember why Strand was still at
the hotel, why the Mexican family was so upset with him, or why Madison & family left the hotel at all (although I think that was related to Travis
killing those dudes with his bare fists last season). Oh, and until I watching Talking Dead, I completely forgot the character of Ofelia even
existed.
[Edited on 6-11-2017 by punkerhardcore]
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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posted on 6-11-2017 at 09:31 PM
I agree with everything that you're saying, punker.
But that spoon to the eye was pretty badass, right?
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posted on 6-12-2017 at 12:58 AM
Yeah, character memoribility is hard on this show. I remember more about Carol's abusive husband than I do the motivations of half the people on
2 seasons of FTWD. I wonder if it's because they're basically freeballin' it here as opposed to TWD which essentially has the comics
to act as a compendium for when things get stupid and/or unexplained. Kind of exposes the faults in the main show in that they basically do the same
types of illogical dumb shit, but they can skate by with an assist from the better written comics.
I'm already adoring Dayton Callie's survivalist character and am far more interested in him and his little Deadwood-esque community. Since
this is all SoCal filmed I hope they at least wedge in some character actors from that Shield/Sons of Anarchy/Deadwood/Justified troupe. I would shit
if Olyphant or Goggins sat in for an episode or two. And Kim Coates would SO work as a sleazoid villian on this show.
Also, please don't fuck with Strand. That sequence where he got the car was awesome. Except for, y'know, the part where they said he
couldn't have one. Sooooooo...he wanders away and just took one?
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posted on 6-12-2017 at 04:02 AM
Better producers on the main show. FTWD went with something more esoteric to avoid being seen as just a clone of TWD, which is idiotic because the
better episodes they've had were the ones where they ditched the baffling behaviour of the characters and engaged in the violence typical of
TWD. Too bad Kirkman can't or won't see it, and is unlikely to do anything about it, probably because they gave him a ton of extra money
just to use his name and the setting he created. Which is weird that he lets this happen, because he didn't hesitate in getting rid of a much
better showrunner in Frank Darabont from TWD season one when they butted heads on the overall meta the show was going to strive for.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 6-12-2017 at 04:51 AM
Ok, those last 30 seconds of tonight's episode made up for a lot of shit.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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posted on 6-12-2017 at 05:47 AM
Better than usual overall. Amazing what can happen on a show when no one goes full retard. Or work well with others instead of sabotaging or
undermining everything that they can.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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posted on 6-13-2017 at 06:40 AM
That episode and reveal at the end were pretty tight storytelling-wise. People are finding their place and going with the fucking flow for once.
Crackhead Son and Murder Son are finding common ground in being crazy people. Charlie Utter and Joanie Stubbs actually had adult conversations about
their kid's and their own failings. And yumpin yimminy the ending! Damn fine surprise. Hope he can stay around for a bit. Or shit, that
wasn't a TWD-like hallucination, was it?
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posted on 6-19-2017 at 04:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by janerd75
Or shit, that wasn't a TWD-like hallucination, was it?
Ha, I was thinking the same. Will be interesting seeing how he survived (and managed to track down Strand).
I have been enjoying this season more thus far than the past couple. The Christian group/pot smoker reveal was fun (although I think if I took a big
bong rip and had someone proceed to throw a zombie head on the table, my buzz would be immediately killed). And the girl that plays Alicia is almost
distractingly hot. I mean, she is absolutely stunning even when made up to look like crap.
"Hulk Hogan have the sex with some dumb bitch on the TV. The girl smart if she make the $$ from his bald ass but she also desperate to have sex with
the howdy doody like Hulk Hogan. He worse than Mel Gibson and I think now %10000 he prove he have grasshopper dick and raisin balls." - The Iron
Sheik
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posted on 6-20-2017 at 12:11 AM
Last night's episode was objectively good. Not good as in "best of the crapfest we've been served far more often than not." Good as
in "I dug it totally".
Although I didn't understand why Strand was out with that group in the end. Everyone in front of him was going over the edge, no? Strand was
spared that fate last week, so...????
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posted on 6-20-2017 at 06:43 AM
I think these were just the relevant characters-in-peril from tonight's episode from the endgame sequence that the writers surprisingly somehow
made it easy to follow their motivations and even care about their wellbeing. Strand was mabey part of Daniel's plan to show he was on Team Dam
by being ruthless to everyone until he could get the jump on Latino Luthor. Or, he didn't know until he was being forced to throw the girl over
and he finally snapped Darth Vader on the Emperor style.
All I know for sure is that Daniel Salazar finds. He hunts.
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posted on 6-21-2017 at 03:08 AM
Good episode this week, and overall I've enjoyed the season so far.
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posted on 6-27-2017 at 04:44 AM
The latest episode is the sort that I both understand and appreciate but also hate. The quiet introspective talkie episodes are always like that.
Parts of it hit for me. I enjoyed the fire scene, and events that led up to it. I was bored a fair bit with the ranch owner/Nick, and felt they
dragged down the episode for me. But I do understand why those scenes were there. And Nick having a gun isn't a bad thing, and I realize the
meaning and importance of it is decent storytelling. So yeah.
The whole natives vs white men thing I'm pretty wtf on. I mean, I guess they've established that there's some sort of past between
the two groups, or at least elements within them. But the whole thing still makes me roll my eyes. I mean, the entire mountain/badlands/whatever
range is there, with maybe a couple hundred people scattered among a handful of groups occupying it. Plenty of space, plenty of land, plenty of
safe(ish) areas. But nah, let's have racism and white man vs red man. And I imagine Nick's gf will wind up with the natives just because
it's a basic story arc sitting right there to have them eventually face off in opposite groups. Heh, we'll see.
The bird picking at the brains bit was pretty 'Holy Shit'. And the prison bus zombie attack was solid filler that I'm always happy
to see in a zombie show.
The mother/crazy kid bits I'm unsure of.
Overall, a bit of a letdown from the past few weeks, but nothing near the outright garbage they sometimes have offered in other seasons. I'm
worried that the white man vs native arc is gonna be shit, but I'm willing to withhold judgement for now.
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posted on 6-27-2017 at 07:58 AM
In the Quentil ballpark as far as Natives vs/ Whitey goes. Dudes it's like, the apocalypse, not the Jesus one or whatever Native one
that's appropriate for that region, but the apocalypse that affects you no matter what your religion or melanin content of your skin is
and/or what your ancestors taught you to like or dislike. Not looking forward to that if that's the story they're going with. Madison
taking a definitive leadership role was cool though.
I enjoy the odd couple of Daniel y Strand, now if only Ofelia had been built up into a character we cared about for when Strand eventually links up
with her and more hijinks ensue.
So far this season FTWD is giving me less and less to bitch aboot. Not perfect, but it's distinguishing itself from the mothership and it had
Alycia leading that decent Otto boy into sinful behavior, which was nice.
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posted on 7-3-2017 at 07:36 AM
Hard to believe this is the same show that ended on such a shitty note last season. Once the wacky Mexican adventure ended and they got more into the
survivalist community it's improved dramatically. The build-up to the war with the Natives is adding some good overall tension too. Overall
I'd give them a 7/10 for what they've done in the last four or five episodes. Too late to say if they've smartened up for good but
at least it's nice for a change to watch this show and not be kind of ashamed of doing so.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 7-4-2017 at 06:03 AM
Kinda neat to see the show basically turn into a Western. Nice they threw in a wrinkle that it's not just straight up Cowboys vs. Injuns and
that Troy is the bad apple ticking time bomb that's invariably among these groups, either in TWD or FTWD, that eventually upsets the apple cart
and ultimately gets those apples eaten. How 'bout them apples?
In The Tradition of Bitching Aboot Technical Things:
1) The Away Team, consisting of the brains and brawn teamup of Cersei, Jr. and King Troyfrey, limped back on bloody stumps whilest their legs, torsos,
and arms were amply clothed. Yes yes, drama to make a point the Injuns are mean. But fuck's sake come up with something plausible, such as the
Injuns taking most of their clothes too, as the reason why they didn't tear off their sleeves or whatever else and wrap that around their feet.
2) Oh, Jake's showing Alicia how to use an AR! Will she shoot it without...will he put his own on...ohhh, he's putting them on
her...annnnnnnnnnnnd snake eyes as he doesn't put on his OWN FUCKING EARMUFFS!!! Yeah no, no yeah champ, her popping off those rounds right next
to your head mean you don't hear anything for the rest of the episode, dummy.
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The latest episode continues a decent run this season, and I'm glad they filled in some more justification for why the leaders of these two
groups are at odds. It's still a bit meh, the red man vs white man sort of story, but at least they made the effort. And I can appreciate
that.
I'm not sure why suddenly Madison's family are considered leaders and key people when they've been there all of a week, although I
imagine the fact that they survived the outside far more than most of the residents of the camp have probably helps.
Sad to see the family die, although them leaving was pretty anti-character. Poor horse, and I did like how the first shot the leader of the
settlement made was to kill the horse, then the zombies. It showed a bit of character depth without beating us over the head with it, as Walking Dead
is wont to do.
Madison is one manipulative bitch. Fucking guidance counselors.
I have the feeling the eventual showdown is gonna be great. Btw, wtf ever happened to Ophelia? And dear God, I hope this season ends with somehow
Tobias arriving on their old boat, behind a new 50 cal modification on the craft as he mows down zombies like Rambo.
Man, I wish they'd have Tobias back. Is that so wrong of a guilty pleasure?
