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Subject: So Who Gets Fired First After Wrestlemania? NOW WITH 400% MORE FIIIIIIRING! Firing...SAMOA! Boobies. And Sim Snuka.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 01:24 AM
Oh, come on! That so deserved its own thread complete with a "FIIIIIIIIRED...."
"FIRED." title/original post.
But yeah, nothing like making your return in a BIG main event and (at least according to Rick) being positioned against the World Heavyweight
Champion... and then getting released 4 days later.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 01:32 AM
At least you didn't pick him in Deadpool and add to your already insurmountable lead over the rest of us.
No one had him, not even whyme with his "interesting" list.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 01:32 AM
This has to be for something that either happened on Monday or since. They wouldn't have put him on the show like that if they were planning on
releasing him. Has to be either the injury proneness or another failed drug test. Or that stupid beard he's been sporting.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 01:40 AM
I'm of two minds. Until there's actually reason to think drugs or misconduct I'm just going with the most logical reason. Fucker
injured his wrist in his FIRST match back and he clearly can't be trusted to stay healthy enough to book even a short term angle around. In
which case, again, I am of two minds.
On one hand it seems like a perfectly reasonable stance. I mean, look, I don't think booking Kennedy in a big angle and him getting hurt is
really the end of the world and that stuff is probably a greater indictment of the company's overall health and booking. But at the same time
it makes no real sense to pay a guy to constantly rehab and not actually yield any results. Plus the dude comes off like a complete douche so I like
to laugh at his misfortune.
On the other hand its kind of a dick move to fire a guy days after he gets hurt. Didn't WWE hammer Bischoff pretty bad as a businessman for
pulling that sort of stuff with injured wrestlers? But then again WWE's never been accused of class or integrity. And again, its not like I
can't understand WWE's position.
Of course he's a clear roider who already got suspended once and proved himself stupid enough to volunteer to make public statements about how
clean he is when he knew he was dirty. So who knows?
I'm betting on him grabbing Steph's ass. I like the outside gambles.
quote:Originally posted by williamssl
At least you didn't pick him in Deadpool and add to your already insurmountable lead over the rest of us.
No one had him, not even whyme with his "interesting" list.
The funny thing is my very first thought was to go run to that thread and see if he was on whyme's list. Poor guy. Poor guy and his horrible,
horrible list.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 01:42 AM
Wow, what the fuck? I gotta agree with FistHiccups, it seems like there's got to be more to this story than "We're gonna bring Mr.
Kennedy back big on Monday...nah, on second thought, we're tired of him. You're released!" I don't know how severe his alleged
wrist injury was from Monday, but maybe that played a factor.
And while he would be a prime pickup for TNA (unless he did fail a drug test or something), what is he really going to do without the whole
"Kennedy...KEEENNNNNEEEDDDDYYYYY" gimmick? Okay, so I'm sure he'd do okay, but that would be like The Rock going to WCW back in the day
and not being able to use any of his usual Rock stuff (albeit on a much smaller scale).
EDIT: It appears Lucky and I were posting at the same time (so if I look like I'm ignoring everything Lucky said, that's why).
[Edited on 5-30-2009 by the goon]
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 01:58 AM
I did not watch RAW. This is the first I'm seeing of this from another board. This image makes me laugh (and ashamed) and gives me an opinion
of what happened.
Kennedy (shockingly) fucked up not only (shockingly) injuring himself but also (shockingly) hurting Orton. Orton was hurt/startled so much that he
reacts and then angrily lashes out at Kennedy. Clearly Randy Orton is the new Undertaker and got his ass fired for nearly hurting him.
Clearly.
It just cracks me up how fucking pissed Orton looks. Because we can all recognize that initial reaction. That's the reaction of a man who just
felt some real pain and let out a nice big "FUCK!" in response. And for some reason that just cracks me up to see it in that situation and then see
him just lash out at the guy. Not quite professional but still funny.
I don't care for Kennedy. He's ok but I never saw what others did. I wouldn't curse if TNA signed him but I'm certainly not
sitting around hoping for it. Between his injury problems, his general douchiness, his inability to carry over the very thing that made him popular,
and my opinion that hes generally mediocre I really can't see him bringing a hell of a lot to TNA. But then again he's a capable hand
with heavyweight size and the ability to talk who has a fanbase who wanted him to be a WM headlining world champion not that long ago. So I
wouldn't blame TNA for giving him a deal.
But that's 3 months away at best.
[Edited on 5-30-2009 by LuckyLopez]
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 02:38 AM
quote:Originally posted by LuckyLopez
Oh, come on! That so deserved its own thread complete with a "FIIIIIIIIRED...."
"FIRED." title/original post.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 02:39 AM
Also, if Kennedy's real last name isn't Kennedy, and/or WWE's already copyrighted the two Kennedy's thing, TNA has no business
signing him.
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quote:Originally posted by nOOb
Also, if Kennedy's real last name isn't Kennedy, and/or WWE's already copyrighted the two Kennedy's thing, TNA has no business
signing him.
His real name is Ken Anderson, so I would assume the WWE has all of the "Mr. Kennedy" stuff on lockdown (especially since I believe the whole origin
of him taking the Kennedy name back in OVW was because it was Vince's middle name). Though if that is the case, I wonder how fine a line TNA
could walk with him having a Mr. Anderson or Kennedy Anderson gimmick.
Oh and Lucky, that footage is great. I missed that on Monday, but then I was half watching the main event (and even then, I usually overlook small
stuff like that). I'm going to make a mental note to add "Injure Orton, get fired" to my anti-Orton thread in the Retro forum.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 03:19 AM
quote:Originally posted by LuckyLopez
I don't care for Kennedy. He's ok but I never saw what others did. I wouldn't curse if TNA signed him but I'm certainly not
sitting around hoping for it. Between his injury problems, his general douchiness, his inability to carry over the very thing that made him popular,
and my opinion that hes generally mediocre I really can't see him bringing a hell of a lot to TNA. But then again he's a capable hand
with heavyweight size and the ability to talk who has a fanbase who wanted him to be a WM headlining world champion not that long ago. So I
wouldn't blame TNA for giving him a deal.
I completely agree with you, but I still think it's a surprising move by WWE and a dumb personnel move in a long series of them. Kennedy
didn't butter my toast as a wrestling fan, but he was on the brink of being a breath of fresh air in a suffocatingly stagnant main event scene.
I'm so sick of Orton/Batista/Cena/Big Show week in and week out that I'm fully prepared to embrace anybody else that can get in
there and make things seem even a little different, and Kennedy looked to be that guy.
I realize Kennedy is apparently made of glass but he really isn't any more injury prone than Batista or Edge (who have both just been lucky
lately, I think) and he's no more unreliable than a guy like Jeff Hardy. It's just a bizarre move to release a guy who was incredibly over
for someone who barely wrestled over the last 18 months and who was being heralded as the next Steve Austin just a few years ago. It's probably
a case of WWE being sick of paying the guy to be unable to contribute but I think there's almost got to be more to the story.
I like Lucky's outside bet, but I'm going to say the ass that was grabbed was Shane's.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 03:24 AM
Wasn't Mr. Anderson Neo's name in the Matrix?
Anderson would still work. 3 Syllables. Still ok phonetically. Not as if he name is Shuranesh Randashar...Randashar.
Honestly though he should change his name to Mr. Glass.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 03:41 AM
I don't know that I buy that he's not any more injury prone than Batista or Edge. Edge has put in some really long runs and generally his
problem seems like one injury that he works on and makes worse so that he occasionally needs to take a few months off or undergo some surgery. And
Batista is... well... a roid head whose body is so freakish that it can't actually handle the work he asks it to do. But still, its kind of
contained.
Kennedy's made of glass. He gets different injuries with no warning. They're not gradual things that some time off or limited schedule
can help. They're not some long term injury he keeps aggravating. He just can't stop. Either there's something wrong with his
body or he's Carl Pavano's cousin who doesn't have the will power or desire to work through aches and pains or he's horrible
uncoordinated and clumsy or he's secretly Bruce Willis' arch enemy. Whatever it is its something you can't plan for and which makes
it tough to make even short term plans with the guy.
He's the male Candice Michelle. And we all sort of acknowledge that Candice isn't just unlucky. Her lack of skill or basic clumsiness
has played a considerable factor in her constant injuries. So I think at this stage its kind of hard not to say there's SOMETHING about Kennedy
whether its on him or just something he can't control. So, you know, I can't really blame WWE for just cashing out.
Especially since you and I agree that he's really not all that special and that his largest commodities are pretty shallow and unable to
translate well to a competitor. I've been waiting for WWE to cut bait on Kennedy for awhile now.
Its the timing that makes me laugh at WWE. Unless something MAJOR happened in the last 96 hours its pretty hilarious that the guy went from "World
Title Contender and big surprise on a RAW WWE expected to pop a big buy rate and draw a lot of new eyes" to "Expendable and not worth working
through whatever troubles he had." If its the injuries then its kind of crazy that ONE injury made THAT big a difference. I'm all for "the
straw that broke the camel's back" but if you really were willing to cut bait with the guy that easily then he should have been
Kendrick's tag partner or Morrison's ally against TWGTT or an ECW title contender. Not at the absolute top of the company at a perceived
big moment.
Its that seemingly rash decision that I'd have to smack my head over if I was a WWE employee as I question just how together my company really
was.
EDIT:
quote:Originally posted by Biff_Manly
Wasn't Mr. Anderson Neo's name in the Matrix?
Anderson would still work. 3 Syllables. Still ok phonetically. Not as if he name is Shuranesh Randashar...Randashar.
Honestly though he should change his name to Mr. Glass.
He actually did the "Anderson... Anderson" bit in OVW if I remember correctly but then they made the name change as he got called up. And actually
at the time many fans speculated that it was the popularity of the Matrix films that gave them a reason to change the name. Specifically the main
villain's popular phrase of "Mr. Anderson."
[Edited on 5-30-2009 by LuckyLopez]
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 04:16 AM
quote:Originally posted by LuckyLopez
He actually did the "Anderson... Anderson" bit in OVW if I remember correctly but then they made the name change as he got called up.
Actually, I'm fairly certain he did the "Anderson... Anderson" thing in his very first appearance on Velocity. And the next week, it was
changed to Kennedy.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 04:50 AM
I was actually thinking that they did the Matt Sydal/Evan Bourne thing with him but I couldn't really remember it well enough to say.
I just saw a video of the aforementioned injury spot and it strikes me as more obvious. Orton has an even bigger reaction as he seems really angry
and hurting and pounds the mat. Then when he tags out you can kinda see him powder out and collect himself at ringside, favoring the shoulder. Or
maybe I'm seeing what I want to see. But it actually seems pretty clear to me that on the same spot that Kennedy hurts himself (you can also
see him crawl into the corner and just stay there as Batista checks on him) he at the very least puts Orton through some pain. And given
Orton's recent shoulder injury its hard to blame him for being angry/reacting.
Spot happens around 33 seconds.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 05:10 AM
From another site and made me laugh: Kennedy's unreleased t-shirt
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 05:21 AM
BREAKING: Mr. Kennedy endeavoured.
From Rajah:
Courtesy of WWE.com:
Mr. Kennedy released
Written: May 29, 2009
World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of Raw Superstar Mr. Kennedy (Ken Kennedy) as of today, May, 29 2009. WWE wishes Ken
the best in all future endeavors.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 06:08 AM
Whatever you do Orton haters, don't blame Randy for this one!
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 06:59 AM
No surprise there....he can break his ankle just tying his shoes, which basically makes him a liability. Not sure if that's exactly why he
released. In any event, it does kinda suck that he couldn't amount to anything like a lot of us thought he would.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 07:05 AM
Not to be a dick, but this has been discussed quite a bit in the "Who gets fired after WrestleMania?" thread, currently located directly below this
one (though it doesn't explicitly state it in the title, so I guess it is easy to miss).
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 09:40 AM
quote:Originally posted by LuckyLopez
And given Orton's recent shoulder injury its hard to blame him for being angry/reacting.
That was more-or-less my inital reaction upon seeing the footage. It looked like Kennedy dropped him on the shoulder and I wondered if it was the same
shoulder that was injured.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 10:52 AM
The sudden firing might well make sense if Orton, after that awkward suplex spot, had gone backstage and said he refused to ever work with Kennedy
again. Give a few days for management to try and get him to back down or find another solution, and then when they can't to quickly decide they
don't see any particular use for Kennedy on a stacked Smackdown roster...
If it was about injuries, they wouldn't have trusted him in a high profile role right away, as people have said. But this would explain both how
he got that position at the top of the card and how he lost it right away.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 01:21 PM
Doh! didn't see it. sorry.
Mod, feel free to delete/move/merge if necessary.
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have been so good for you for so long, you are not going to have any idea how to deal when things turn to shit, and mommy and daddy can't bail
you out. And it's coming. I know, I know, I am a mean person, a "hater", for not presenting life as anything but rosy. Don't worry, you
are all special, beautiful little snowflakes, and I want to kiss you all on your precious little heads. All I ask is that you don't cry to me
when your H3 is repo'd when things go to hell.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 01:34 PM
I'm thinking it must be along the same lines as well. They saw enough in Kennedy - and know the main-event scene is stagnant - that they were
prepared to push him in that top spot. But after the further injury, and if the world champ kicked up a shitfit refusing to work with him and maybe
even pushing for his firing... It's easy to see that the guy might be a liability. And WWE knows that it can get along without Kennedy, because
he's not there half the time anyway.
The thing that bugs me about the somewhat high-profile releases is when they're not acknowledged or explained on TV. When a D'Lo or Venis
is released, who cares? It doesn't make any real difference to the show. But this guy came out and declared his intent to pursue the champ, then
won the main event. Next week, it'll be like he never existed.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 05:04 PM
Maybe it'll always be a big mystery with a lot of different theories, and we'll never truly know.
Another Kennedy conspiracy.
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posted on 5-30-2009 at 06:35 PM
Maybe they just released him until he gets his shit together (injury wise). I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him back within the year.
It's not like the WWE hasn't released guys and hired them back months later before.
