LuckyLopez
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| posted on 6-11-2009 at 04:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by FistHiccups
In fairness, London's actions since his release have sort of vindicated WWE in their treatment of him.
I have no idea why you jumped on that fairly random example and decided to argue it, besides of course your pathological need to disagree with every
popular smark sentiment that exists... but did you really just suggest that VINCE MCMAHON was on sound footing for holding it against Paul London
because he's prone to making an ass of himself in public? VINCE MCMAHON?
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nOOb
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| posted on 6-11-2009 at 05:52 PM |
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Confirmed
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As reported on WWE.com on Monday, June 8, 2009, WWE Superstar Umaga (Edward Fatu) has been released from his World Wrestling Entertainment contract.
However, consistent with the practice of announcing wellness policy violations, it should be noted that Umaga's termination was due to his
second violation of the WWE Wellness Program and his subsequent refusal to attend a rehabilitation facility.
Everything about this girl is awesome. She's hot, she got kicked out of school for sucking too many dicks, she takes it in the ass and her body
gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
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punkerhardcore
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| posted on 6-11-2009 at 06:02 PM |
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Huh. Looks like that whole, "why don't they announce the reason for the firing of guys who are caught violating the Wellness Policy" theory
from the other thread has kinda come true.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
--MySpace makes me way cool too.
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LuckyLopez
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| posted on 6-11-2009 at 06:12 PM |
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I'll give the WWE the benefit of the doubt that 3 business days isn't really THAT long a wait to make such an announcement. But I admit
its tough not to be suspicious of the timing.
Monday - Umaga is fired
Tuesday - The internet starts talking about WWE evading public announcements of Wellness violations by firing wrestlers.
Wednesday - WWE makes a public statement about that theory that actually manages to lend credibility to it.
Thursday - They announce Umaga was fired for drug related stuff.
Umaga claimed it was his call and the whole thing does seem kind of similar to the Angle and Booker departures where WWE wanted to punish/rehab them,
they said no, and there was probably a "mutual" parting that amounted to "Do this or we cut you."/"Ok, cut me." I don't remember WWE
publicly airing Booker's laundry but they could have and I just forgot. And they borderline buried Angle out the door. So its plenty possible
they're just sticking with policy.
But the timing of the week's "news" certainly makes this feel like a PR response to these rumors. "We better say something about Umaga so
they don't discover it and confirm their suspicions." But who knows?
[Edited on 6-11-2009 by LuckyLopez]
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Wickedfrost
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| posted on 6-12-2009 at 01:58 PM |
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quote:
It appears Lillian Garcia is on her way out from the WWE as the company sent a release out today to talent agencies asking for a "young,
attractive female to sing the national anthem and be our regular ring announcer every week, for one of our most popular TV shows." -- source
Slam!
So what classless and degrading way will Vince come up with to say goodbye?
Do you smell what Barack is cookin'?
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jmble
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| posted on 6-12-2009 at 02:54 PM |
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I wouldn't assume she's on her way out at this point. They could be looking for a Lilian clone to work the Smackdown shows.
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drmuerto
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| posted on 6-19-2009 at 11:57 PM |
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quote:
From WWE.com: World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of Raw Superstar Sim Snuka as of today, June 19, 2009. WWE wishes Sim the
best in all future endeavors.
From WWE.com: World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of SmackDown Superstar Candice Michelle as of today, June 19, 2009. WWE
wishes Candice the best in all future endeavors.
Copied and pasted from 411.
Neither comes as much of a surprise, I must say. Canidce probably outlived her usefulness a couple of years ago and Sim never hit much of a stride.
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Antoshi
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| posted on 6-27-2009 at 01:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jmble
I wouldn't assume she's on her way out at this point. They could be looking for a Lilian clone to work the Smackdown shows.
Not with Justin Roberts doing a flawless job from week to week. Maybe they want an announcer specifically for Superstars.
Signature goes here, wtf.
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the goon
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| posted on 6-27-2009 at 03:40 AM |
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Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but it's pretty funny that almost three months (and quite a few releases) later, everyone in the
initial poll still has a job with the WWE.
EDIT: Now that I say that, one of those people will probably be released tomorrow.
[Edited on 6-27-2009 by the goon]
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LuckyLopez
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| posted on 6-27-2009 at 06:07 AM |
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Clearly nOOb sucks at predicting such things right down to not even being able to nail one person on a list of a dozen.
But you know who doesn't suck at such things?
Well... lets just look...
http://www.oowrestling.com/OOForums/viewthread.php?tid=21463&page;=1
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nOOb
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| posted on 6-27-2009 at 04:17 PM |
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I'm pretty embarassed by this whole thing. I mean, I still could give two shits about the firings that have happened, however big they may have
been, but just reading the results on the site to get a feel for how often/how well some of these guys I had on this poll have been being used,
I'm still shocked Haas, Yang, the Burchills, and, simply because I'm thinking he'd get endeavoured for a "three strike" thing,
Regal are all still around.
Everything about this girl is awesome. She's hot, she got kicked out of school for sucking too many dicks, she takes it in the ass and her body
gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
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DrBoz
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| posted on 6-28-2009 at 05:41 PM |
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Didn't someone say there were some positive drug tests during the latest batch of testing and that we should expect to see people being
temporarily phased out here soon? Just wondering, because it's been three weeks since Umaga's release and I haven't heard anything
about anyone else failing a test. I would think any sort of appeal process and testing of B samples should be done by now. Or is there no official
timetable for publicly announcing positive tests?
And am I remembering wrong, or has Regal been absent here lately?
This Space for Rent
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LuckyLopez
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| posted on 6-28-2009 at 08:30 PM |
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There was a rumor that a bunch of guys got caught with Umaga and that for the big 3 hour RAW 2 weeks ago a bunch of guys were told to be written out
of plans. Speculation jumped when Orton got "squashed" but he seems safe. There have been rumors that the timing of Batista's injury is
suspicious. MVP's stock seems to have suddenly fallen since losing the US title. I guess have Regal and Matt Hardy been absent the last couple
of weeks? But no, nothing has come out about it so maybe it was horseshit.
Of course the Wellness Policy is filled with loopholes that allow WWE to delay punishment, keep the wrestler on screen, or not announce anything.
While they claim they announce all suspensions I think its been show they are willing to give guys passes, cover things up, or delay punishment for
the sake of their stories. And as they said about the Umaga thing, they announce SUSPENSIONS, not positive tests. So if they never suspend someone
for a positive test or wait 3 months for a feud to end technically they're still doing what they said they would. Technically.
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Paddlefoot
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| posted on 6-28-2009 at 09:12 PM |
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Not another endeavouring but another voluntary departure instead. Lillian Garcia's leaving WWE when her contract ends:
http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/06/28/breaking-lilian-garcia-quits-wwe/
How classy will her last RAW appearance be? Will they make her eat a can of dog food? Make her clean all the Orton poop out of the other diva's
luggage? Bring back Rikishi for a one-night-only stinkface? The possibilities in the minds of the 'riter dnonkeys for massive indignity are
literally endless!
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Chris Is Good517
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I'm betting there's a 20 minute segment which leads to Hornswoggle teabagging her and Goldust has to try to convince everyone that
it's all a misunderstanding.
My man Zack Ryder is the future ECW champion. YOU KNOW IT!
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Shao Khan
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| posted on 6-29-2009 at 07:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Not another endeavouring but another voluntary departure instead. Lillian Garcia's leaving WWE when her contract ends
Her OOfficial word on things:
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Hi Everyone,
I hope all of you are doing well! I am writing to address the situation in which WWE is looking for a Female Ring Announcer/Singer. The truth of the
matter is that they are looking for someone new because I have given them my notice that I will be leaving at the end of my contract this year. It is
with a heavy heart that I have made this decision because WWE has been my family from day one and you, the WWE Universe have always been incredible to
me. The fact is that I am getting married later this year and have decided to enter into a new phase of my life but I will truly miss all of you and
the WWE tremendously.
Love you all & keep rockin!
Forever Rockin�,
Lilian :-)
Been waiting AGES to use the 'OO' in something.
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the goon
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| posted on 6-29-2009 at 07:56 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by LuckyLopez Speculation jumped when Orton got "squashed" but he seems safe.
Randy Orton could be caught with a syringe in his ass, two dead prostitutes, and 30 pounds of blow and there would be no suspension. He would probably
lose the title to Triple H and then win it back two weeks later.
As for Lillian, I'm actually kind of sad to see her go. I remember I didn't like her much when they started phasing out Howard Finkel, but
she really won me over. Here's hoping they can find a suitable replacement and good for her for going out on her own terms.
With that said, she'll probably be raped by Kane during her last episode of RAW.
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Biff_Manly
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| posted on 6-29-2009 at 10:29 PM |
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Well, to be fair when Lillian started she was god awful. She would mess up multiple times a show. She has grown into her job and its good she is going
out on her terms and I hope to god they don't decide this is a time to bring back Big Daddy V (or whoever the fat guy was) to give her a special
send off.
It also reminds me that Lillian is a reason why Playboy magazine is failing. When you spend your money to put generic model/actresses in your mag like
Candice instead of spending the right money to get a hot POA like Lillian in there, you deserve to fail.
Oh Lillian, we hardly knew ye...
"Walter: I can solve everything by making this gramophone have sex with time."
--SCSA's Fringe on Ice Holiday Spectacular.
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LuckyLopez
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Yeah, I honestly wouldn't have the slightest idea if she sucked. I don't notice that sort of stuff. Its all just background noise.
Sometimes I'll watch an entire match before I realize that the ref is a wrestler. All i remembered was Lillian being SO bad that she stood out
for a long time and MADE me notice her. She forged a bad first impression and its not like she's ever been so AWESOME AT SAYING NAMES that I
was ever able to get over that first impression. And thus everytime I DO notice her making a colossal screwup I roll my eyes or when someone mentions
some silly screwup my reaction is just "That's Lillian, right?"
But who knows? She could well be way above the curve at "saying names correctly" and I just don't know it because I don't pay attention
to such things. I mean, Lillian could have been the greatest ring announcer in wrestling history and I can't imagine it really making a
difference to me. Like reffing its one of those jobs that if you're doing it right you should probably blend in and become invisible, but if
you're standing out its probably because you're doing something wrong.
Mostly I just think she's an attractive chick who didn't bring anything else to the table and WWE will replace her with an attractive
chick who doesn't bring anything else to the table. So meh. Hopefully the new one can read at at least the same level as Lillian.
[Edited on 6-29-2009 by LuckyLopez]
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doctorb
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I hadn't noticed she existed until the smackdown following 9-11 when she led with the national anthem and holy shit can that girl sing! Then I
pretty much knew who she was but still don't pay much attention to that stuff. Hopefully she'll enjoy every bit of her new life and her
husband won't ever find out about the bi-monthly trips to Ohio to suck off The Rick.
The "B" is for bargain!
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LuckyLopez
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| posted on 6-30-2009 at 03:44 PM |
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And I'd just like to point out that like she heard me Lillian went and called Maryse "Marie" last night.
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The American Heartthrob
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All of this brings up an interesting point... WHY would someone on their way out consent to be part of a shitty sendoff? At that point, I'd
figure since I'm on my way out anyway, fuck them and their lame ideas, I'm going out with some dignity.
Then again, this is pro-wres... That dignity shit got left at the door when most of them walked in.
Go n-ithe an cat th� is go n-ithe an diabhal an cat
(May the cat eat you, and the devil eat the cat)
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LuckyLopez
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Because while Chris Jericho or Lita may at that moment think that they're done with wrestling they realize that the time may come when they
change their minds. When the other career ventures fail, they get the itch back, or need the money. And WWE remains THE place to work and the only
one you can really count on to still exist in 2 years. So its a lot like giving your 2 weeks notice and going out of the job on the best terms. You
want to avoid burning any bridges because you may need these people down the line, or you may even need your job back. Ultimately its the same reason
they allow themselves to be degraded when they debut. There's not a lot of options.
Plus its just the culture and one has to wonder how many of them really even see it as wrong. And even if they do, well... Lita went through it and
Vickie went through it and all those guys did... so what makes you special? How your peers view you and your circumstances help shape your decisions.
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FistHiccups
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quote:
Originally posted by LuckyLopez
I have no idea why you jumped on that fairly random example and decided to argue it, besides of course your pathological need to disagree with every
popular smark sentiment that exists... but did you really just suggest that VINCE MCMAHON was on sound footing for holding it against Paul London
because he's prone to making an ass of himself in public? VINCE MCMAHON?
Only just noticed this, and I'm not sure what the purpose of it was other than for you to fulfill your pathological need to rant at me
because I tend to disagree with the stereotypical smark nonsense that you buy into. But you know what? In this case, I think a lot of "you people"
have concluded the same thing (though perhaps not on this specific site) that I have.
Since leaving WWE, Paul London has proven himself to be an unreliable, unprofessional dick. I don't even know what your "making an ass of
himself in public" comment was referring to, so I wasn't suggesting anything involving that. But never let the fact that someone never put
forth that argument get in the way of a little snipe at them. What I was referring to was London no-showing and late-cancelling a mass of
independent bookings. He's also given interviews blasting half the guys in WWE, and talked about how he wasn't held in high esteem by his
fellow wrestlers or the decision-makers because he ultimately didn't give a shit about being a good employee (or "independent contractor").
Just about everything London has said and done since he was released has vindicated WWE for not putting the promotional machine behind him when he was
there. Personally, I've found him funny and worth listening to in those interviews, but at the same time, they - along with the reports of his
professional conduct - have certainly opened my eyes as to why he never got further than he did in the big leagues.
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LuckyLopez
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Yes. I'm sure the only reason I responded to a direct response to me was a pathological obsession of some sort. On the other hand that's
the first time in a long time I can recall you responding to a response to you so I suppose I should be impressed. You'll have to excuse if I
mix some stuff up as I just had to reread the posts from 3 weeks ago to figure out what the hell we were talking about.
I was stating my opinion about Vince's general state of mind. I mentioned some random story that had been spun which certainly showed a degree
of unstability. And no, bad behavior after the fact does no vindicate someone for a bad call in the past. If I ban you right now because I disagree
with your opinion I'm wrong. If you go and start re-registering and flaming everyone to hell and posting porn in every thread and generally
giving plenty of reasons to rightfully ban you? That doesn't make my wrong action any more right. London is an unprofessional ass. He also
was supposedly given shit for a really stupid and petty reason by a man who was in fact embarrassing himself, his company, and business WAY MORE at
the time than London could ever dream to. And a man who has made it a hobby of looking like a clown both on his show and off it when the media comes
calling.
So I wasn't saying "OH NO! PAUL LONDON NEVER GOT A FAIR SHOT! EVIL WWE!" I was saying "Vince McMahon supposedly held a petty and innocuous
thing against Paul London, a pretty juvenile and wacky bit of behavior." If you disagree with me on Vince, hey, ok. I'd be glad to argue.
But London wasn't a part of this. He was just a random example I used. I could have said "Vince might be crazy enough to change major plans
with Christian because the crowds were chanting his name" or "Vince might be crazy enough to keep Jack Swagger off PPV because he doesn't
think he's ready AFTER he's given the ECW title" or any other random story that got spun. The point was never about the individuals and
always about the larger opinion that Vince is unprofessional and whacked out enough to make some questionable decisions for poor and petty reasons.
I didn't then and still don't see the point in pulling out the example that was in no way the point and trying to turn it around. Except,
again, that I and others on this board have noticed you having a habit of pulling random comments out of posts and using them as an opportunity to
attack a common "smark" sentiment with an attitude that suggests you see "us" as beneath you.
EDIT: Nevermind that I'm pretty sure that post happened on a day or couple of days when I WAS unnecessarily short and rude and I apologized for
it specifically to you. But 3 weeks later I certainly can't be sure and rereading it I STILL don't get why you would pull that out of a
post unless you were looking for a fight with "smarks."
[Edited on 7-3-2009 by LuckyLopez]
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