desjr001
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There 's like six guys in the "battle royale"? Pretty thin. No one in ECW rates even as ring filler?
Opinions are like assholes,
everybody's got one.
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LuckyLopez
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It does kind of bug me that the Harts got the shaft and so many SD and ECW guys were kept out of this. What started as "a battle royal giving the
young stars of WWE a chance to get a title shot" became "Orton, MVP, Henry, R-Truth, Kofi, and who?" Boy... that's not nearly as interesting
as it sounded.
So much for the scenario I imagined where a ring was filled with the likes of Morrison, Miz, Christian, Swagger, Sheamus, Bourne, Benjamin, and a
dozen other guys who have never seen the top of the card fighting it out for a chance to "break through."
[Edited on 11-24-2009 by LuckyLopez]
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desjr001
And I am AWESOME
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 03:14 AM |
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Lucky may be on to something...the announced main event for the RAW in Tampa next month is Cena/DX vs Orton/Jerishow.
Opinions are like assholes,
everybody's got one.
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SeanSmythe
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 03:23 AM |
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Show is not over, and I have to believe Miz/Morrison will get in that Battle Royale somehow. I did get some nostalgia seeing HBK in the ring as the
Hart music played but I can't believe Bret Hart wasnt brought up. Oh and I love WWE's continuity with the ECW title, years ago LAshley was
allowed in a Championship match because he was ex-champ, but Mark Henry can advance in this because he never won a title that wasnt the ECW
Championship.
[Edited on 11-24-2009 by SeanSmythe]
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LuckyLopez
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 03:33 AM |
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In fairness its not really inherently contradictory to say that the ECW Title WAS a World Title when Lashley held it but wasn't when Henry did.
Titles can lose and gain prestige. Of course the questions are (a) is Lashley STILL a former World Champion or did they recton that and (b) if he is
then when exactly did the title stop being one and is John Morrison a former World Champion?
And so much for Morrison/Miz. Hey look, two allies for Orton. Yay! A main event largely about Legacy! How fucking different!
[Edited on 11-24-2009 by LuckyLopez]
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Chris Is Good517
The Man 
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OK, maybe it was just me but the punchline to that pie segment with Vickie getting pie-faced was genuinely funny. I just laughed my ass off watching
that.
(Adjusts webcam) Hey what up y'all. This y'all girl Lil' J and this lil' girl right here (pause) ain't scared of nobody
so if you got anything to say to me you can say it to my motherfuckin' face or send me a mother- (pause) or hit me up on my motherfuckin'
MySpace. I ain't scare and this little bitch right here will fuckin' kill yo ass. NICK-GAH. So if you have anything to say you can say it
to... (pause) me. (pause). And if you wanna bump let's go cause I ain't scared of yo motherfucking ass, aight, bitch, latah.
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DriftThroughTime
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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Man, the one time I wanted to watch RAW and my other roommate stops the recording a third of the way through to flip through channels. Oh well...how
was Punk v Cena? Did Punk tap to the sstf or get pinned after Cena's scoop slam?
[Edited on 11-24-2009 by DriftThroughTime]
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SeanSmythe
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 03:42 AM |
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He got pinned after a second rope Attitude Adjuster
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Teletheus
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Did anyone else see that huge "GOVERNER" graphic on the screen beneath the Jumbotron when Ventura came out the first time tonight? They spelled it
correctly on the chevron and the Jumbotron, but it was right in the middle of the shot when he first came out.
Someone in production must've noticed it, because they replaced it with "The Body" when he came out later.
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S Kid J E T S 48
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IRISH POWDER FEVER!
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DrBoz
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
OK, maybe it was just me but the punchline to that pie segment with Vickie getting pie-faced was genuinely funny. I just laughed my ass off watching
that.
It wasn't just you. I totally lol'd for realz.
The crowd seems really into it. And by "into it" I mean "dead."
Hmmm...contract signing to end RAW. How exciting.
Click!
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reasoning, and inhibit clarity. With a little practice, writing can be an intimidating and impenetrable fog!"
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budpaul
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I was going to write something clever like McMahon on commentary > Cole on commentary, but then I figured that a balled up sock > Cole on commentary.
We've all fantasized about Jessica Simpson. Here's mine, "Oh Jessica... Hold your sister, Ashlee - so I can kick her in the throat!"
- Dave Atel
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SeanSmythe
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As obvious as it was.. I think they are pushing Sheamus way to fast, and you know there is no way he is beating Cena at TLC, thus deflating his entire
push up till now.
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chewey
Creepy Little Bastard
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Sheamus gets catapulted into a PPV main event after very little build up on Raw...
...IWC whines the next morning that it's only because of his friendship with Triple H that he gets this shot.
"Don't matter how many times you get burnt, you just keep doin' the same."
--Bodie, HBO's The Wire
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budpaul
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quote:
Originally posted by SeanSmythe
As obvious as it was.. I think they are pushing Sheamus way to fast, and you know there is no way he is beating Cena at TLC, thus deflating his entire
push up till now.
Credit where it's due - it's not Orton.
We've all fantasized about Jessica Simpson. Here's mine, "Oh Jessica... Hold your sister, Ashlee - so I can kick her in the throat!"
- Dave Atel
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LuckyLopez
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I mark for Sheamus hard. He has no chance in hell of winning, but I don't think that's really an issue. The real question will be how
he's built up for the next couple of weeks, how he does in that match, and what he does after that match. The push happened fast but I
don't think that's inherently a bad thing. Cena will beat him and he's in no way, shape, or form a "main eventer" in any real
sense. But booked well its a fine first step to making him a player.
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Biff_Manly
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I just caught the end but did someone kill a puppy or something during the show because the crowd sounded dead.
"Walter: I can solve everything by making this gramophone have sex with time."
--SCSA's Fringe on Ice Holiday Spectacular.
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S Kid J E T S 48
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quote:
Originally posted by LuckyLopez
I mark for Sheamus hard. He has no chance in hell of winning, but I don't think that's really an issue. The real question will be how
he's built up for the next couple of weeks, how he does in that match, and what he does after that match. The push happened fast but I
don't think that's inherently a bad thing. Cena will beat him and he's in no way, shape, or form a "main eventer" in any real
sense. But booked well its a fine first step to making him a player.
Call it the 'Umaga Effect'. As long as he doesn't start losing to everyone after he loses to Cena, then he can alright by pushing
him this fast. Anything this out of the ordinary will get people's attention on him now.
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SeanSmythe
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I actually see this as another way of WWE not knowing how to push a young guy. Sheamus is a sacrificial lamb, his inevitable loss at TLC will do more
harm than good, and will be more beneficial to Cena. If they where gonna sacrifice someone, they should've given the win to someone else and
just had Cena win. But at TLC Sheamus "unstoppable" factor is gone, and with Cena actually being quite right about Sheamus only destroying Noble and
Lawler up until this point, how will losing in his first match against a top guy help him?
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SeanSmythe
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Difference between Umaga and Sheamus, is that Umaga didnt face off with John Cena 5 weeks into his push, they actually took a long time and Umaga
actually beat some top guys on his way to Cena.
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LuckyLopez
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I certainly HOPE its not the "Umage Effect" since that results in a one dimensional midcarder that treads water with no purpose except to occupy
more important people until he's unceremoniously released into obscurity.
I genuinely don't believe that a loss in and off itself damages Sheamus and think there's a dozen ways to have him lose and still come out
better for it. Whether they'll do that or not, I have no idea. If I were some bush league TNA wanker I'd just point to Desmond Wolfe
tearing into TNA, destroying Angle for weeks, losing to Angle in a great match, and then coming out the other side a legitimate player as a recent
example of how it can work.
With Cena/Punk, the Breakthrough Battle Royal, and Sheamus winning I'd probably give this RAW a rating about 4.0. Toss in the little fun and
harmless nostalgia things of Jesse/Vince and the Gooker. With the pointless and destructive "Russorific" Orton booking it sunk my rating down
considerably. I'll just abstain since I missed the first 40 minutes.
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Psycho Penguin
Creepy Little Bastard
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Same old damn IWC.
'No more Cena vs Orton! Push the new guys!'
*Orton enters battle royale*
'AHHHH NOOO!'
*Sheamus wins*
'Sheamus is being pushed way too fast.'
Can't anyone ever say anything nice. Figures.
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S Kid J E T S 48
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 04:30 AM |
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They still have 3 weeks to build him up. Lawler basically announced he's not going to fight back, so we don't have to worry about that.
They should have him destroy Cena for the next few weeks, while double-dipping him with maybe some crossover stuff on Superstars with matchups with
Morrison, and maybe some sort of Regal-assisted win over Christian on ECW to help push him forward.
I don't see this necessarily killing him at all. One thing he has over guys like Umaga and Great Khali is that he is not just a giant or a
gimmick. They have plenty of chance to handle him right after the Cena loss...they just have to have a real plan here.
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SeanSmythe
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Mind you I like Sheamus, he's knew and very different than what WWE has crammed down our throats, but we heading towards WM time and at most
Sheamus will be in the MitB at that PPV, but a loss here, a loss at the rumble and another loss at elimination chamber aint gonna help him.
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DrBoz
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quote:
Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
Can't anyone ever say anything nice. Figures.
Dude, Lucky almost gave RAW a 4.0.
RAW!!!
What more do you want?
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