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Originally posted by knuckleballschwartz
Did maryse's gooker disrobing go wrong or was the plan for her to struggle with her boots and stuff? either way it was hilarious and she handled
it pretty well. I particularly liked her holding king at bay with the palm of doom.
The best part of that segment happened when Cole said "Yes. It's Maryse" ONLY after she took the gobbledygooker outfit.
Also, 5.0 for Jesse Ventura shooting all over the current product.
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nobledictator
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quote:
Originally posted by desjr001
quote:
Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
I like how Batista has only been heel for a month and he's already being booked as a coward.
I so disagree. He is, to quote the Rick, The Logical Monster and he will destroy Kane on his way through the Taker. Then who are we looking at for for
his challenger into WM? A returning face Edge would be my best guess.
I too laughed at the cakeface punchline on Vicky. As soon as I did it, I went to myself..."OMG did I actually emit a guffaw?".
4.0 for me. I had fun.
That is the main question..... then what for Wrestllemania?
NO way Edge comes back to feud with anyone but one man and that man will be Jericho which is why there not doing Jericho and Taker. So we know we
have at least one non title match there (unless Jericho becomes champ between then and there which is unlikely)
So we can start by saying
Jericho vs Edge as a pretty safe bet for WM.
Observation 2. Looks like WWE is setting up Cena vs UT as well which can only mean that Cena gets to be the next big guy to fall victim to the
streak.
So UT vs Cena is a pretty safe bet.
The question then becomes if UT and Cena are facing each other...who then will be the incumbant champions at WM?
Batista seems like a pretty good bet on Smackdown
ON Raw it becomes a bit mirkier....It wouldn't make sense for WWE to run Cena vs UT for the title but woudl be the only way I think Cena could
be champion going into wrestlemania.... but were going to assume that UT vs Cena is non title...which means Cena is dropping the title and won't
be champion come WM odds.
HHH and HBK is going to find their way in the main event because those are WWE's only sure fire draws...and Kofi I don't think is ready to
headline WM in WWE think or without a huge Humungus push fan think.
I think this is how your show will look
HHH vs HBK for WWE title
Batista vs Jeff Hardy for World Title
UT vs John Cena (For the streak)
Edge vs Chris Jericho.....ORRRR
Chris Jericho/Big Show vs Edge and Christian (Undisputed Tag Titles)....I think this now
The Miz vs John Morrison (unless they are in MITB)
MITB
CM Punk vs Randy Orton vs Kofi Kingston vs Shelton Benjamin vs Evan Borne vs Jack Swagger vs Rey Mysterio vs R-Truth
Kane vs Sheamus or Drew dude from SD
and some sort of smoz match for the ECW title where Regal finally comes out champion. Regal is so bad ass its only a matter of time.
Throw in a womans title match and I think thats your card.
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DevilSoprano
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Hardy isn't coming back.
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nobledictator
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Then someone needs to step up to face Batista...if Orton wasn't heel Id say it woudl be him. I think WWE has a hard on for a Batista vs Orton
feud. Besides Hardy will be back...he is worth too much to the WWE not to bring him back.
Misterio is a possibility
[Edited on 11-25-2009 by nobledictator]
[Edited on 11-25-2009 by nobledictator]
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theflammablemanimal
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quote:
Originally posted by desjr001
I so disagree. He is, to quote the Rick, The Logical Monster
And how is "logical monster" different than "opportunist" or "calculated" or whatever euphemism they always use to explain why the heel is being
a coward. He made a big deal about not being disrespected, said he would take out anyone that got in his way, and then just backed down when he got
challenged. They could spin it any way they want, but that makes Batista look weak.
Why couldn't he have backed up a step, tackled Kane, they fight a bit and then security pulls them apart? No one looks weak and there's
still a (crappy) match set up for SD.
Between that segment, and attacking Hardy from behind, Batista is being booked just like any other heel.
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Chris Is Good517
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quote:
Originally posted by desjr001
I so disagree. He [Batista] is, to quote the Rick, The Logical Monster and he will destroy Kane on his way through the Taker. Then who are we looking
at for for his challenger into WM? A returning face Edge would be my best guess.
Agreed with the first point. As much as I hate Batista I definitely think he's been consistently booked as one of the most intelligent, cunning,
and self-aware wrestlers on the roster. He chooses his battles and he decided he'll wait til Smackdown to get his hands on Kane. I got more of a
"pfffff, fuck this guy" vibe from him than I did a "I don't want any part of this guy" vibe.
On your second point, I disagree. If WWE blows Edge's return on anything other than dealing with Jericho I think they're making a mistake.
Then again, I could be wrong and maybe beating Batista will do more to solidify Edge as a huge crowd favorite. But I think Edge vs Jericho would be
much better both in terms of build-up and match quality.
[Edited on 11-25-2009 by Chris Is Good517]
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DrBoz
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Is Edge even going to be back in time for WM? I don't know exactly how long an Achilles takes to heal, but WM would be a little less than nine
months. Seems like it would be pushing it to get to WM, but I'm guessing he could at least cost Jericho his match and set up something down the
road from there.
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nobledictator
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This is one of the problems with the WWE I think right now. The WWE doesn't really have any money matches that they can conceivalbly put on.
Theres a few reasons for this, first there are too many PPV's, and second everyone they have tried to push to be the next dude is gone or
injured.
Edge, Jeff Hardy, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guererro, Chris Benoit, Brock Lesnar.
The established talen they do have, have all faced each other due to the 1000000 PPV's they have.
I do think that help is on the way as the WWE right now has the best young talent they have had in a very long time
(Swagger, Miz, Morrison, Kofi Kingston, and I still think Shelton Benjamin will break out. CM Punk has to be included in that as well, plus I think
Ted Dibiase and possibly Bulldogs Son my be players.)
But for now.... I think WWE is ripe for another brand to hurt them. If TNA is going to hurt WWE I think now is the time to do it. The myth about
wrestling I think is it doesn't take a big star or great wrestling for a show to be at its zenith, it takes one really really good storyline and
a handful of wrestlers that can make it work both in the ring and out of it that the fed can run on for a few months. If TNA comes up with one right
now I think they could put a hurting of WWE right now.
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Gobshite
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quote:
Originally posted by nobledictator
Hardy will be back...he is worth too much to the WWE not to bring him back.
Whislt he may be worth a boatload of cash to WWE, how exactly are they going to have him on the WM card when he, you know - IN JAIL.
I don't see Hardy escaping some sort of jail sentence. Even six months puts him out of WM26.
And Edge is reportedly behind schedule and won't be back until the summer.
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theflammablemanimal
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Yeah, I don't see Hardy coming back anytime soon. However, I could see how the release of his DVD might get people thinking he's close to
a return.
How long does it take to make a DVD? I'm surprised to see Hogan and Hardy's DVDs coming out when one is with the competition and one is in
prison.
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knuckleballschwartz
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batista - punk at mania for the title?
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williamssl
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Vegas has the Royal Rumble as the over/under date by which Batista will be out again with injury.
I've bet on the under.
Don't Mess With Texas
Hi ,awesome post! Good thing ive'd drop by this thread. Nice guide for newbies like me. Hope to see more posts soon. Thanks again!
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DevilSoprano
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quote:
Originally posted by knuckleballschwartz
batista - punk at mania for the title?
I thought about that, but who's the heel?
They could do a Punk/Morrison title shot, especially if they're doing HHH/HBK and Cena/Taker as bigger matches. The SD title match won't
have to be as huge.
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Biff_Manly
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I would love to see Taker/HBK 2 for Wrestlemania. Have they ever done back to back years of the same match? We all know Shawn would have no chance,
but it would allow the WWE to promote it like crazy. The build up, the return match. At the very least it could guarantee a great match.
I do think Taker/Cena would be a good match but would that mean Taker drops the belt and then wins the Rumble or would Cena? What about the person
that beat them for the belt? Or do they both keep the belt and we go for a reunification? It just seems like too much maneuvering for the WWE right
now to put them in a WM match.
My fear is we get Batista/Taker at WM assuming both of their broken bodies can make it to March/April.
I would lay money on Punk being in the MITB match at WM and winning so he can once again cement himself as Mr. MITB
[Edited on 11-25-2009 by Biff_Manly]
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SeanSmythe
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The only back to match I can remember was Dudleys vs E/C vs Hardys with the ladder match at WM 2000 and TLC at WM 17.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste
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knuckleballschwartz
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quote:
Originally posted by DevilSoprano
I thought about that, but who's the heel?
They could do a Punk/Morrison title shot, especially if they're doing HHH/HBK and Cena/Taker as bigger matches. The SD title match won't
have to be as huge.
The other option would be to do a screwy rumble finish or have the rumble shot split somehow and have multiple title matches along the line of mania
X. That way you could do taker-cena and then something along the lines of Edge (being the "ultimate opportunist") coming back at the rumble and
winning/sharing the title shot with morisson or kofi say (maybe he draws thirty and steals it if he's too unhealthy to compete then, kofi is the
last eliminated due to some nefariousness and they both get a shot) and then getting waylaid by Jericho. morrison/kofi faces batista first whilst edge
and jericho face off. The culmination is therefore a battered and broken edge on his first proper night back from a horrific injury facing monster
heel batista who earlier beat up a brave but outgunned morrison or kofi.....and then face jericho again down the line over a long brooding feud
leading up to summerslam.
This would then leave HBK and HHH free to headline raw. Lets say they both end up in elimination chamber with cena and others and after again
imploding when the championship is up for grabs shawn wins by shafting hhh. at this point you can turn either one, build it for a while and then blow
off at mania for hte belt.
edited to fix double quote.
[Edited on 11-25-2009 by knuckleballschwartz]
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nobledictator
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I agree with the person that said HBK vs UT 2 would be the way to go. I think it could have been huge with HBK coming back being obsessed with ending
the UT's streak. Slow burning it till WM. That boat has passed it seems and it seems Cena vs UT will happen instead.
Right now outside of UT vs Cena and probably some of the participants in the MITB match IM not sure WWE has a clue who they will main event with and
will end up stuck with HBK vs HHH....I can't imagine this being their preference though.
Fantasy geek booker in me would love to see HBK vs The Rock :-).... I know I know I shouldn't do that to myself. The promos would be awesome
though.
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I thought DX vs Brothers of Destruction would have been the way to go for WrestleMania. I much prefer Michaels and HHH as a team, it's a fitting
sequel to the HBK-Taker singles match, and more importantly, the build-up could be about how the three other guys in the match have all lost to
'Taker at WM before. Planting the seed that Kane will turn on him to get credit for ending the streak. I wouldn't have him do it,
though.
But the raft has indeed floated on for Michaels/Taker continuation, it seems.
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SeanSmythe
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At least if its HHH vs HBK, it is a match we haven't actually seen in a while and they tend to put on good ones when they do lock up. If its
Cena vs Taker, then we know Cena won't main event WM which is good, so who the hell would be the Raw Champ if 'Tista is the SD Champ?
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Biff_Manly
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I was looking through the Wrestlemania history and I don't believe that Shawn Michaels has faced Triple H one on one at Wresltemania.
They had the Triple Threat with Benoit, so essentially, they have never had a match during the biggest show of them all.
I may have missed something. I admit my research was limited to a quick Google search and some wiki reading.
The fact that they haven't had that match at Wrestlemania would lead to some decent promos. A little bit of one-upmanship if you will and a back
story that has more legs than 97% of the feuds that go one today.
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the goon
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Chiming in on matches that have been done twice in a row at WrestleMania, there's also Hogan/Andre (III and IV) and Bret Hart/Yokozuna (IX and
X). Those are the only other two I can think of.
EDIT: And on the subject of Michaels/Triple H, I'd be okay with it if it was done as face vs. face (or maybe with Michaels as the heel). But
we've seen heel Triple H vs. face Shawn Michaels too many times, even though they usually do deliver in their matches.
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Gobshite
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It wouldn't suprise me if we saw Orton / Kofi for the WWE Championship @ WM26.
It was around Survivor Series they started the build up for Lesnar /Angle, and Benoit getting a title shot at someone. If they keep Pushing Kofi, I
can see him winning the Rumble, with Orton getting in on the Elimination chamber (by argueing that he's not fighting Cena one on one). Then you
have Orton vs Kofi in the first 'main event star making wrestlemania moment' since WM21 (when Cena / Batista both picked up their first
world titles).
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Chris Is Good517
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To build off what Gobshite said about Orton/Kofi for the title at Mania (which I agree is at least a possibility), I could see Orton helping Sheamus
beat Cena at TLC, setting up a Sheamus/Cena/Orton title match at the Rumble. Orton gets the title there while Kofi wins the Rumble (or the chamber at
whatever retarded name they came up with for No Way Out). If Cena is going to go on to fight Undertaker at Mania, I have no idea where that leaves
Sheamus, but I think that scenario would make sense.
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so if you got anything to say to me you can say it to my motherfuckin' face or send me a mother- (pause) or hit me up on my motherfuckin'
MySpace. I ain't scare and this little bitch right here will fuckin' kill yo ass. NICK-GAH. So if you have anything to say you can say it
to... (pause) me. (pause). And if you wanna bump let's go cause I ain't scared of yo motherfucking ass, aight, bitch, latah.
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I had to do a double take and make sure that I was watching RAW in the year 2009. That was by far the best episode I've seen in recent memory.
Everything was executed beautifully, from the hosting of Jesse Ventura, the return of Maryse, to the elevation of Sheamus to ME status. For a moment
their my 4.0 was fixing to drop below 3, when Jesse allowed Orton to participate in the Battle Royal. But alas Kofi Kingston saved the day.
Have to agree with those who say that a tables match between Cena and Sheamus, is the best way to protect Sheamus if he goes down in defeat. He will
not have to bear the stigma of a lame Cena submission move.
Unfortunately, my fear is that it will be back to business as usual next week, when we have to sit through the musings of Verne Troyer.....ugh!!!
Nevertheless, Final Score: 4.25
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Biff_Manly
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Troyer is gangsta. It's gonna be a hell of a show. Maybe we can get some serious midget on midget violence rotating around the little
people's court. I am chucking just thinking about it. Maybe he'll beat Hornswaggle's ass and tell him to have some dignity!
Midgets equal funny afterall.
Big Show and Mini Me? My gawd man! How can you say this will suck?
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