punkerhardcore
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quote:
Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
And other guys who didn't have managers but became WWE champ:
Sheamus
And Kurt Angle.
Also--
Lesnar had Heyman
JBL had the APA
Jeff Hardy had Matt
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S Kid J E T S 48
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You guys forget a little guy I like to call the Great Khali - managed by Daivari and the Ranjin Singh.
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theflammablemanimal
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quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
quote:
Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
And other guys who didn't have managers but became WWE champ:
Sheamus
And Kurt Angle.
I was kidding. But to be fair, I'm pretty sure that Angle had a coach and team when he won Olympic Gold.
(I won't count Team Angle or Heyman since I think he'd been champ once or twice before that)
EDIT/IMPORTANT:
By the way, to anyone who wants to watch NXT, you have to remember to change your DVR settings from ECW to NXT.
[Edited on 2-23-2010 by theflammablemanimal]
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punkerhardcore
The Great One
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quote:
Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
I was kidding. But to be fair, I'm pretty sure that Angle had a coach and team when he won Olympic Gold.
And a broken freakin' neck... can't forget about that. Did Team ECK come before or after he won the title for the first time? I
can't even remember.
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blackdragon
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I think it was after. Angle won his first World Title pretty fast - right at about a year after his debut. It's crazy to think that back then
we thought that was a monster push and then you get Brock winning in five months and Sheamus in what 4?
I'm pretty sure Bob Backlund sort of managed Angle in the beginning too.
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punkerhardcore
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quote:
Originally posted by blackdragon
I'm pretty sure Bob Backlund sort of managed Angle in the beginning too.
I remember that... he had Angle running up and down stairs wearing a chicken costume. Or maybe that was Christian who did that. Man, my memory for
these little moments isn't as good as I thought it was.
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Stu
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Mick Foley had Christian wearing a chicken suit during an episode of Heat so he could lose a pound or so in order to qualify for a Light-Heavyweight
Title Shot.
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"Well, Jeff�s puddle throws up the Shocker, so I guess some things never change."
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TownOfDalem
Undisputibed Champion
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Mick Foley had Christian in a chickensuit during Foley's run as commissioner
"I think Tim Wakefield would even say tonight that Tim Wakefield got to Tim Wakefield tonight."
-- Tim McCarver
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C.MontgomeryPunk
And I am AWESOME 
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Daniel Bryan answers The Miz' criticisms (From a radio interview recapped at prowrestling.net):
quote:
I asked him about the blog that The Miz posted where he said "Daniel Bryan looks like my accountant ... ordinary and bland." Daniel had this
to say in response to that: "So the deal with The Miz is that that�s how he�s gotten by. He�s very charismatic, he�s gone out there, he�s really good
at making people hate him. How I�ve gotten by is a little bit different. I�ve been doing this for over ten years now and what I�ve gotten by and how I
made my name is by being excellent in the ring, but that doesn�t mean what he�s saying isn�t partially correct, you know what I mean?
"There is this huge aspect there where for me it�s always been what goes on in the ring. And with the WWE...that�s a big part of it, it�s presenting
yourself as a superstar. And when he said I look like an accountant, I kinda do! I don�t watch television, I don�t e-mail. He was asking me,
'What do you do with yourself?' and I said, 'Well, I read!' (Miz responded) 'What? Who reads?' It�s just one of
those things where there�s going to be a learning curb there because it�s completely different then anything I�ve every done."
http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/WWE/article10010468.shtml
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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Danielson looks puny even next to Miz. Man, I don't have a good feeling about Bryan. I wonder if Miz wore lifts in his shoes or something. He
was more than 3 inches taller. Imagine Danielson next to Batista or HHH.
ME will go a long way I guess.
[Edited on 2-24-2010 by C.MontgomeryPunk]
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Psycho Penguin
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I have a feeling they're trying to subtly bury Bryan by having him be so stubborn about his ways and continually saying it's not gonna
work in WWE.
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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Tarver came off pretty good in his package promo piece. Slater wasn't bad either.
Match was distracting as there seemed to be a few different camera angles.
I think Slater and Tarver came off better than Bryan. Bryan can't cut a serious promo, in the backstage interview with Striker (who was bigger
than Bryan) he always seemed to have a smirk and almost like he was fighting back from laughing.
Jericho vs Bryan is the main event - it will be big for Bryan, as non indie fans must think he's shit right now.
[Edited on 2-24-2010 by C.MontgomeryPunk]
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budpaul
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Black Cena, *errrrr* Darren Young's skin color freaks me out about as much as Sheamus' does.
... or maybe we should just call him "Snooki".
[Edited on 2-24-2010 by budpaul]
We've all fantasized about Jessica Simpson. Here's mine, "Oh Jessica... Hold your sister, Ashlee - so I can kick her in the throat!"
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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David "A-List" Otunga came off very comfortable in front of the camera in his vid package. Kid has charisma and the body, I guess the wrestling can
come later.
Darren Young looks like a very tanned white guy. Can't really judge the guy on the squash, but I don't expect him to catch on. Why
didn't Young get get the debut sit-down promo treatment?
[Edited on 2-24-2010 by C.MontgomeryPunk]
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DevilSoprano
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Otunga has "it". If he learns to wrestle, he could be very big. He's got an aura. Heath Slater should die. Tarver fucking sucks. Black Cena is
a joke but that's good because Punk looking like he hates life is going to make it worthwhile. Bryan, as much as I want him to make it and I
think he's looked comfortable, I just don't think it's going to happen.
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budpaul
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And here I thought Cole couldn't get any more annoying as an announcer - now he's playing a heel?! Or maybe in Vince's mind,
it's not heelish at all, it's about "respect," which I'm already completely tired of hearing about. Perhaps JBL can make a guest
appearance a soap-rape Bryan next. That'll teach him!
[Edited on 2-24-2010 by budpaul]
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firewoman
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Well, that wasn't a terrible opening. It has potential.
And there was no Legacy.
[Edited on 2-24-2010 by firewoman]
[DevSop] god your sex life scares me
[SeamusMcNasty] And that is why I hate the Miz. He's got potential, but he just doesn't live up to it. Unlike Randy Orton, who has no
potential and lives right up to that.
MHJ: "if it is kinky, depraved, erotic, or a fetish, you will find it"
theflammabledouchimal: By the way, I heard that house shows have Morrison and Mcintyre teaming up to take on the team of Baretta/Croft, with Jericho
as special ref.
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Fandom
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Cole is just playing the role of the WWE veteran sniping at the rookies. I wouldn't get all bent out of shape over it in the end.
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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That table spot of the plancha looked like it broke some ribs (at least). That spot will actually help Bryan get over. Camera angles were brutal
again for this match - took away from it for me.
Cole is horrid as the heel commentator. Stryker is silly as the backstage interviewer. Is Striker surprising the rookies with the questions? Barrett
seemed to be caught off guard.
Overall I think Otunga and Tarver came off the best characterwise, however Otunga can't really wrestle for shit yet. Heath Slater was just
there and rather forgettable.
Bryan needs to get much less camera aware. Match was fine, but the kid is smaller than his listed 5'10". I'd say he'd closer to
5'7"-5'8".
I assume Barrett, Sheffield and Gabriel will wrestle next week.
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TommyD420
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I think Lucky said it right in chat when he said this was FCW with better production (and, of course, wrestlers we all know).
We'll see if it keeps up. One thing is fo sho, Cole is garbage.
I'd say it's neither better nor worse than what ECW has been over the last year. It's got some potential.
Also, thankfully, there was no fucking Legacy there.
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Psycho Penguin
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I like that Cole hated Miz on RAW then suddenly likes him. That's a realistic character because I know sometimes I dislike people's
actions and other times don't have a problem with those same people's actions.
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LuckyLopez
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I like it. Its got potential. Enough wrestling to keep us interested. Its not a reality show, its a wrestling show. Its like some weird half way
point between FCW and WWE that could really stand to help introduce and test these guys in a very effective way.
I don't think I'd have much to say that I haven't said in the FCW thread. I don't have Tarver but I don't love him.
Otunga's got some presence but no skill whatsoever. Young sucks. Slater is kinda bush but I like him. Tarver could be a solid bodyguard for
Carlito if Carlito wasn't a jobber and Killings leading out Otunga gave me real Pac Man flashbacks. That's not really an insult as in
general I think some of these pairings could work out well in the long term like Jericho/Barrett.
Danielson/Jericho was a nice little match. Nothing special but Danielson looked good against the World Champ without Jericho having to look like he
was going down to anyone. And the Miz/Danielson stuff definitely has potential. That one episode actually made me think Danielson might actually win
the US title off Miz some day relatively soon.
And no Skip Sheffield, the worst part of this show.
And I think the show will warrant a rating thread next week. I'd probably give it something somewhere around a 3.0 if we had one this week.
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DrBoz
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I actually kind of enjoyed the show. Perhaps it was the idea of Jericho/Danielson in the "main event" that made it so appealing. But overall,
I'm thinking this might actually turn out to be a fairly entertaining "brand." It's a different way to introduce new talent.
Integrating established stars, particularly some who are integral to the WWE as a whole (more so than Christian, Regal, Golddust, Benjamin, and so on
in ECW), might give these newer guys a better chance to show what they can do.
Danielson did himself well in his match. Nearly severing himself in half on the announce table could be milked for a while, kind of like Bob Holly
with the table a couple years ago. While Danielson wasn't so hot backstage with Striker, when he was with Miz during the opening segment he was
MUCH better than I expected. But MAN is he fucking small.
Black Cena is awful. The only redeeming part with him is being paired with Punk. I have no idea how that dynamic resolves itself without Young
shaving his head. Like I said earlier, his hair is the only interesting thing about him, so I'm not sure I want that gone.
Barrett will be good. For those that know of him, how will he be in the ring? His presence is definitely solid. Plus I like how his trunks have
those lines that pretty much encourage you to look at his junk.
The main complaint I have is with the camera angles. I felt like they were constantly zoomed too close. I had to double check to make sure I was on
the HD channel and not the non-HD one. They need to fix that.
Overall I'm pleased. I think this has potential to be a pretty positive show. Anything that finds a way to build new stars is a plus in my
book.
"I guess my heaviest experience is gravity...keeps my feet down...it's like weighing me down...I can't get my arms up now...like my legs
fall...I'm falling down and I can't...it's making me heavier...I'm heavier...I can't move...Now I'm a dead dog in
water...I can't...I'm floating but I sink to the water...I'm a wet sandwich...wet with meat...I'm broken salami...tiny
mustaches are heavy...I'm falling...."
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the goon
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You know, I enjoyed the show pretty well tonight. Other than not knowing who the hell anybody was outside of Daniel Bryan (might as well get used to
calling him that), I stayed tuned in for the entire hour.
On the subject of Bryan, I have mixed feelings. If I didn't know who he was (and his reputation), I'll be the first to admit my first
thought would probably be "Who the fuck is this guy?" I don't think his ring attire and that robe really do him any favors. At the same time,
I do think he has a chance to get over and it appears the WWE sees something in him, since out of all the rookies, he got the most spotlight and has
definitely been given the most interesting relationship with his mentor. Would WrestleMania be way too soon for a Miz/Bryan US title match?
CM Punk's reaction to Darren Young in their pre-match backstage bit was fucking priceless. Hell, his reaction (along with Gallows'
and Serena's) during the match was great as well. With the way Young jobbed so quickly, and Punk having nothing but disdain for him, I'm
wondering if this might eventually lead to Young shaving his head and joining the Straight Edge Society.
Good main event between Jericho and Bryan, though I really would have liked to have seen it get more time (though it's understandable why it
didn't). And that table spot was fucking sick. And I have no idea how Wade Barret is in the ring, but he's got a good look and was good on
the mic (plus I like him being paired with Jericho).
In a rare rating-related agreement with Lucky, I'd probably go around a 3.0 as well if we were rating tonight. Nothing was horrible, the main
event was good, and the show at least felt like something kind of new and different. Now, if it can sustain this, who the hell knows. But I liked what
I saw enough tonight to tune in next week.
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LuckyLopez
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I have no idea how Barrett is in the ring. In the months of watching FCW I've never once seen him wrestle. He's been injured and doing
color commentary, doing the MVP "holding out for the right deal" gimmick. He's a decent talker and he's very comfortable on camera.
He's got the build and some presence. I think he fits with Jericho very nicely. But I have no idea if he can wrestle for squat.
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