salmonjunkie
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
Comparing Miz to the worst QB in the modern NFL era? Get the fuck out of here man.
Worse than Aaron Brooks?
Personally, I think he�s a [freaking homosexual].
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whyme
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Or Ryan Leaf?
Two Penguins sitting in a bathtub, one says pass the radio.
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DKBroiler
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I think the comparison was just bad all around. Miz is as far from Jamarcus as Daniels is from Elway.
If we want a good comparison why don't we go with a guy who has some personality, is probably more famous then his on field (or in ring) talent
merit, and has never won a big one.
Miz you are Tony Romo.
As for Daniel Bryanson Daniels or whatever his new name is... from all accounts, excellent on field guy who has no charisma and is only famous to the
5% of people who pay way more attention then they probably should.
Daniels... you are Matt Schaub.
Romo and Schaub seems a little more on point then Russell and Elway.
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I would also like to add that I am interested in NXT mostly because I am a clean slate on all of these guys other then Daniels. Actually what I know
about Daniels is only from most of you all any way so if he stinks I'm blaiming Lucky Lopez for setting my expectations too high. Haha.
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Columbo
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Ok, I think I can agree with Miz as Romo, but I think a better on for Danielson would be pre-personality Peyton Manning. His first couple years in
the league before he did any funny commercials or his highlarious SNL gig I'm pretty sure the majority of fans pretty much had Peyton pegged as
a robot. At least I did.
Narrator: Tobias listens to a day's worth of his own words, to see what Michael was referring to...
Tobias F�nke: [on tape] ... even if it means me taking a chubby, I will suck it up.
Tobias F�nke: Nothing wrong with that.
Tobias F�nke: [on tape] Oh, I've been in the film business for a while, but I just can't seem to get one in the can.
Tobias F�nke: It's out of context.
Tobias F�nke: [on tape] I wouldn't mind kissing that man between the cheeks.
Narrator: ...and he realized there is something distinct about the way he speaks.
Tobias F�nke: Tobias, you blowhard.
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DKBroiler
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So that would make him Eli?
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Columbo
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quote:
Originally posted by DKBroiler
So that would make him Eli?
C'mon man! Only deluded Giants fans such as myself think Eli is any good.
Narrator: Tobias listens to a day's worth of his own words, to see what Michael was referring to...
Tobias F�nke: [on tape] ... even if it means me taking a chubby, I will suck it up.
Tobias F�nke: Nothing wrong with that.
Tobias F�nke: [on tape] Oh, I've been in the film business for a while, but I just can't seem to get one in the can.
Tobias F�nke: It's out of context.
Tobias F�nke: [on tape] I wouldn't mind kissing that man between the cheeks.
Narrator: ...and he realized there is something distinct about the way he speaks.
Tobias F�nke: Tobias, you blowhard.
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Chris Is Good517
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quote:
Originally posted by Columbo
C'mon man! Only deluded Giants fans such as myself think Eli is any good.
True story
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punkerhardcore
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OMG REALITY CONFLICT!
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There has been a lot of controversy this week about me mentoring Daniel Bryan on WWE's new show, WWE NXT.
I've read a lot of interviews, blogs, ect. about the matter and they all seem to be asking the same thing. "Why is The Miz mentoring Daniel
Bryan when Daniel Bryan has wrestled all over the world for 10 years plus?"
It's come to my knowledge that some members of the WWE Universe think they know everything about WWE and what it takes to be a WWE Superstar.
They think that if a guy does well in the independent minor leagues, then all of a sudden he should be in the WWE.
They think that if a guy can main event in front of a hundred people at a bingo hall, then he's ready to main event at WrestleMania. Just
because fans on the Internet say you�re ready doesn't mean you really are.
Just because a fat guy with no teeth who sits in the front row, buys your T-shirt and says you're the king of wrestling, doesn't mean you
really are.
What the WWE Universe doesn't understand is there is so much more then I can describe in a single blog involved in being successful in the
WWE.
My job is to make Daniel Bryan a star in the WWE, because let's face it, if you look at a picture of him right now, do you think STAR?
No, Daniel Bryan looks like my accountant ... ordinary and bland.
Maybe if he had The Miz's charisma and look, he would have been in the WWE by now. Don't hate on me because it didn't take me a
decade to get a WWE contract and go down in WWE history to be the first Superstar to win the United States Title and Unified Tag Team Titles.
Don't get me wrong, Daniel Bryan has all the talent in the world, but every wrestler has weaknesses. And that's what my job is, to find
his weakness and make him the biggest star possible.
I just hope Daniel Bryan doesn't believe himself what these ignorant members of the WWE Universe believe about him, or WWE NXT is going to be a
nightmare for him.
MIZ
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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LuckyLopez
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I'm sure Miz is reacting largely in character and all, but still... I can't help but think he's a giant douchebag. It probably
doesn't help that Jim Ross all but called him out as one the other day in his blog.
Ultimately I have no idea if Miz is smart using this opportunity to advance his giant douchebag character or silly for wading into a hornet's
nest where the truth is that people think its a bad pairing because they believe Danielson > Miz and being petulant won't change that. In the
end I guess as long as you're a heel there's no harm in pissing people off.
[Edited on 2-19-2010 by LuckyLopez]
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theflammablemanimal
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quote:
Originally posted by LuckyLopez
I'm sure Miz is reacting largely in character and all, but still... I can't help but think he's a giant douchebag. It probably
doesn't help that Jim Ross all but called him out as one the other day in his blog.
Ultimately I have no idea if Miz is smart using this opportunity to advance his giant douchebag character or silly for wading into a hornet's
nest where the truth is that people think its a bad pairing because they believe Danielson > Miz and being petulant won't change that. In the
end I guess as long as you're a heel there's no harm in pissing people off.
[Edited on 2-19-2010 by LuckyLopez]
Oh please, that's clearly all in character. I mean, this quote
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Don't hate on me because it didn't take me a decade to get a WWE contract and go down in WWE history to be the first Superstar to win the
United States Title and Unified Tag Team Titles.
Danielson is going to say he hates Miz for that reason on the first show of NXT, guaranteed.
CIG, Eli stinks, but he deserves some credit for that Tyree catch. That throw was not nearly the lame duck, hail-mary throw people (Pats fans) like to
pretend it was. He saw Tyree and surprisingly threw it right to him, just a bit too high.
[Edited on 2-19-2010 by theflammablemanimal]
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LuckyLopez
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quote:
Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
Oh please, that's clearly all in character
quote:
Originally posted by LuckyLopez
I'm sure Miz is reacting largely in character
I'm just saying that he comes off like a giant douche bag and since I have no way to judge him aside from him coming off like a giant douchebag
than I'm forced to believe he's a giant douchebag. But then again since his character is that of a giant douchebag than it helps to be
regarded as a giant douchebag in every way.
Mostly I was just reacting to the weird reality of Miz reacting in character to stuff people are saying that have nothing to do with kayfabe. Its a
blurred line of reality and fiction that only serves to troll the internet. But as I said, I guess there's no harm in trolling the internet
seeing as how he wants them to hate him.
[Edited on 2-19-2010 by LuckyLopez]
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theflammablemanimal
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That blog was also posted on WWE.com so he was probably told to do it.
By the way, what did JR say about Miz in the blog?
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LuckyLopez
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http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/129867/Jim-Ross-Comments-on-The-Miz-Being-Kicked-Out-of-the-Locker-Room.htm
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Jim Ross Comments on The Miz Being Kicked Out of the Locker Room
Posted by Chris Lansdell on 02.13.2010
What did he have to say?
A few weeks ago on Raw, The Miz cut a great promo in which he said he had been kicked out of the WWE locker room. Yesterday JR had this to say about
the incident on his Twitter feed:
Read where Miz was kicked out of wwe locker room 4 eatin chicken over anothers bag. Poor Miz. Attitude had nothing 2 do w/ it. Right.
Again, in character 100%? In character 90%? Who the fuck knows. I tend to take Jim Ross' blog as JR's way to share his honest feelings
of people without upsetting WWE. So when JR feels the need to pull out that quote and call Miz the wrestler out on the poor logic of it and the
reality that he was kicked out of a locker room because he was a gross dick part of me thinks its his subtle way of hinting to Miz the person that
he's kind of an ass.
Its really not a story or anything to really judge the guy on. Just something that popped in my head, and truthfully I already think the guy's
a douche from years of Real World so its easy for me to buy into the idea whenever its presented.
I assume WWE blogs are really largely wrestler chosen. Vince McMahon doesn't tell Miz to blog about something, but Miz knows he better stay in
character and not upset the apple cart because if he says "TNA WAS AWESOME!" or "Christ, RAW sucks!" then he'll get in a lot of trouble.
That's why I think a lot of guys like Elijah Burke have advanced entire gimmicks that were never seen until they were in TNA or Tommy Dreamer
used to say some borderline stuff about WWE's use of ECW.
But like I said. All in character. Douchey character saying douchey shit. Nothing to see. I was just talking because it just struck me funny.
They like Danielson more than Miz, if anything Miz even acknowledging the backlash only serves to legitimize it as a genuine force Miz (and by proxy
WWE) are responding to.
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LuckyLopez
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You guys are really going to make me split the thread, aren't you?
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atothej
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That's why I apologized.
Also, to further confuse things, here's my two cents on the Miz/Danielson issue: Miz will be awesome as a mentor in character. I hope he mocks
Danielson for being bland, but hides behind Show after Danielson looks ready to kill him a few weeks in.
I worry a bit about the show being completely kayfabed out, especially given that every mentor/mentee relationship announcement included a description
of the mentee's present character. However, I think the kayfabe element could really help out some of the pairings. I think this could be
especially true with Miz berating Danielson, since many of us know that he could destroy Miz.
Your momma's so fat, Dave Meltzer gave her struggling to put her jeans on in the morning five stars. -- FF, destroying Jeb, his momma, and
Meltzer in one fell swoop.
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theflammablemanimal
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Those descriptions were hilarious. Something like:
"Heath Slater lives a rock star lifestyle with a carefree attitude and sunkissed blonde hair"
and of course
"Otunga is dating Jennifer Hudson...that is all"
[Edited on 2-19-2010 by theflammablemanimal]
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Joeldacat
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http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/130345/John-Morrison-Talks-ECW,-The-Miz-and-Daniel-Bryan,-More.htm
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In a recent interview with John Morrison:
On Miz mentoring Daniel Bryan: Yeah, when I saw that, I was at the ECW taping, and I actually saw Miz. He didn't know either until he saw the
graphic on the screen. That he was the "Pro" and Bryan Danielson was the student. I walked by and said, "Pssh, he knows more that you do." And
that's pretty much what everyone thinks. It's gonna be interesting and I think that's the point of it.
True.
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Chris Is Good517
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Just a shot in the dark here, but maybe WWE hopes that partnership will benefit both parties.
I'll say this, though: as great as Miz's on screen character has become, you can't deny how much he's stepped up and improved
in the ring from where he started. Watch a match of his from like 2007 and watch him today. It's like watching two completely different
wrestlers. For a guy who came into the business as a complete outsider he really is one of the all-around best out there today. Maybe not one of the
best wrestlers, but his wrestling is plenty good enough to consider him a well-rounded package.
Still, Danielson could learn him a thing or two about wrestling (behind the scenes, of course, because I doubt that'll be shown on TV) and Miz
can help him work on personality. It really could be a successful two-way street.
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sam795
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*lol*...My apologies for an innocent comparison in order to make a point leading to the derailment of an entire thread.
I would assume this whole NXT thing will have to be kayfabed. As a long time fan I don't want the curtain to be pulled back TOO much so that we
can't even suspend our disbelief and enjoy the show anymore.
Ah hell, what am I talking about.....Vince is already doing his best to destroy our enjoyment of the show.
Leave the gun. Take the cannolis.
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LuckyLopez
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If you're looking for a debate about NFL quarterback rankings and want to weigh in on the always polarizing "he ain't won anything"
debate you can do so over in the sports forum.
http://www.oowrestling.com/OOForums/viewthread.php?tid=22848
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LuckyLopez
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If you head on over to WWE.com you'll find that MVP has taken out of this and William Regal is now the Pro for Rookie Skip Sheffield. Which
will be either comic gold or a trainwreck if you've ever seen Sheffield and know Regal's history as the straightman.
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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Regal is a much better candidate for Skip to work off of. Skip is a lame ass gimmick, but Regal gives is a chance.
Regal with Stu Bennett or Regal with Daniel Bryan would have made more natural pairings, obviously they're going for the odd couple comedic
pairing.
Only two pairings that won't have drama are Bennett/Jericho and Gabriel/Hardy.
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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wwe.com has an NXT subsite up now with the rookies having their own pages.
http://www.wwe.com/superstars/wwenxt/
The dressed up pics are sort of amusing.
I hope Stu Bennett wears that cape to the ring.
Darren Young looks like an over-tanned Jersey Shore Guido with that hair cut.
David Otunga should just be introduced as Mr. Jennifer Hudson.
Heath Slater is a "southern rocker" Edge.
I get the Adam Lambert comparison for Justin "Angel" Gabriel, but where is the Johnny Damon comparison coming from? Is Damon really that big a name?
I don't get it and I know who Damon is.
Danielson looks like a cross between a high school football coach dressed up at graduation and Christian Bale in "American Psycho".
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Chris Is Good517
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I didn't know Otunga was a Harvard graduate. That made me think of Chris Nowinski, which makes me miss Chris Nowinski. That kid should have been
something.
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TownOfDalem
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I think Daniel Bryan is solid name choice for Danielson. We knew they would change it so they could copyright his name and by keeping it close they
still have a chance of capitalizing on a few recognizing it. And it's a better name then some of the shitty names they go with.
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