OORick
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I'm sure this is so NOT the right place for this, but in a thread that's predicated on WWE's NXT Generation and has specifically
name-dropped various Steamboats, Hennigs, Rotundos, DiBiases, and maybe even Snukas (hasn't Lucky gone to bat for the Superfly-ette?), I figure
it's worth mentioning....
In Jim Ross' latest blog, he reveals that Jesse White -- son of Leon -- has taken up training with Harley Race after injuries and whatnot
finished up his football career at Oklahoma. After completing his degree, Jesse will debut in a tag match alongside his father in Japan later this
year.
It might help you to know: Leon White is The Man They Called Vader.
He's an inch or two (and 100 lbs. or so) smaller than his dad, but "Baby Vader" has got WWE-size, and won't be repackaged as a
"Skywalker" just for a cheap Star Wars joke any time soon.
I guess I'll wait till I can review the video of his first forays into the ring, but if he's got his daddy's genes, and can actually
get famous before age 40 (and thus, retire before age-whatever-it-was-where-Vader-made-a-drunken-ass-of-himself-on-RAW-a-few-years-ago), this could be
interesting. Color me more intrigued by Jesse White as I am for any "known quantity" among WWE's NXT Generation prospects not named Steamboat
or Hennig, anyway....
Rick
"He's from Mars, Officer; whiskey does not affect alien beings."
-- Venus Flytrap speaking on The Rick
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LuckyLopez
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In similar off topic news Dory Funk IV debuts within the next month or so in a tag match with his grandfather Dory Funk Jr. in some indy fed.
He's going as Dr. Dory Funk Jr as his dad is Dr. Dory Funk III. So there's yet another legacy who will probably pique WWE's
interest down the line if he amounts to anything and isn't a giant headcase. On my long list of complete mystery prospects like El Hijo de Rey
Mysterio, El Nieto del Santo, and Amy Hennig (although she's supposed to suck).
And in similar news Sarona Snuka (or "Superflyette" as Rick put it) will debut in FCW sometime in March at a show titled Family Tradition and
rumored to include nothing but 2nd and 3rd gen talent. A really cool idea, IMO. FCW has Hennig, Dibiase, Jimmy & Jules Uso (Rikishi's kids),
Danny Marlow (Meng's kid), Wes Brisco (Jerry's kid), Ricky Steamboat Jr, Alberto Banderas (Dos Caras Jr), and Bo & Duke Rotundo. In
addition FCW often gets loans of WWE talent as Ted Dibiase Jr just did an appearance subbing for his brother so you can probably count on some mix of
Legacy, the Hart Dynasty, Carlito & Primo, Jesse (Terry Gordy's kid), Chavo Guerrero, and Rey Mysterio Jr..
And hey, since its now "random 2nd gen" thread did you know former WWE Tag Champion Rene Dupree now looks like this?
[Edited on 2-21-2010 by LuckyLopez]
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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Sandman's kid also recently debuted under the name "Twisted Sand". I don't know if he really has any future, but considering he'd
debuted as a 7yr old in the famous Raven/Sandman ECW angle he could be considered a grizzled veteran.
My Mother was a preacher and my Father was a prizefighter...
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LuckyLopez
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I don't know that he's got a real career since he seems to be limited to one garbage fed that seems to have been defunct for at least 6
months. But apparently he was active there for the better part of a year. Either way here he is, since it is kind of surreal to see Tyler Fullington
all grown up after watching him as a kid back in '96 or so.
And since I'm sharing visuals here's Vader's kid from a couple of years ago with his pap. Its kind of worth watching just because
its really nice to see Vader because as he talks up his kid he's got such a huge and goofy smile on his face as the proud father. Something I
never really imagined seeing from Big Van Vader.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lCOUTDkKsQ
[Edited on 2-21-2010 by LuckyLopez]
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Chris Is Good517
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Is Reid Flair ever going to get into the biz? That kid looked like a freaking beast a decade ago and he definitely can't be any worse than his
brother
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Paddlefoot
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Wasn't Reid's future sort of brought to a shuddering halt by a heroin arrest or something similiar?
I think every good Christian ought to kick (Jerry) Falwell right in the ass. - Barry Goldwater, 1981
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DrBoz
Showstopper
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| posted on 2-21-2010 at 08:47 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
Is Reid Flair ever going to get into the biz? That kid looked like a freaking beast a decade ago and he definitely can't be any worse than his
brother
According to Wikipedia, he started doing a little bit in the ring towards the end of 2008. However, it also appears he has other things to worry
about, as evidenced by his
arrest record. That heroin possession
charge might cause him some problems, unless it got dropped. I couldn't find anything online to indicate what happened after that particular
arrest. I did find he has a court date coming up within the next month for a DWI, although I don't know if that is for the first one or the
second one.
Heroin possession, possession of paraphernalia, two DWI's, and an assault/battery charge. All occurred in the last three years (since turning
18). DWI's were within two months of each other. Kid needs to figure some shit out before even thinking about going into the family
business.
Edited to add: Yeah, what Paddlefoot said.
[Edited on 2-21-2010 by DrBoz]
"I guess my heaviest experience is gravity...keeps my feet down...it's like weighing me down...I can't get my arms up now...like my legs
fall...I'm falling down and I can't...it's making me heavier...I'm heavier...I can't move...Now I'm a dead dog in
water...I can't...I'm floating but I sink to the water...I'm a wet sandwich...wet with meat...I'm broken salami...tiny
mustaches are heavy...I'm falling...."
- Chester from Sifl and Olly
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atothej
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quote:
Originally posted by DrBoz
DWI's were within two months of each other. Kid needs to figure some shit out before even thinking about going into the family business.
I, for one, am surprised his dad didn't teach him how to avoid getting DUI's by limousine ridin'.
Your momma's so fat, Dave Meltzer gave her struggling to put her jeans on in the morning five stars. -- FF, destroying Jeb, his momma, and
Meltzer in one fell swoop.
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Columbo
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I always thought this was Vader's kid.
[Edited on 2-21-2010 by Columbo]
Narrator: Tobias listens to a day's worth of his own words, to see what Michael was referring to...
Tobias F�nke: [on tape] ... even if it means me taking a chubby, I will suck it up.
Tobias F�nke: Nothing wrong with that.
Tobias F�nke: [on tape] Oh, I've been in the film business for a while, but I just can't seem to get one in the can.
Tobias F�nke: It's out of context.
Tobias F�nke: [on tape] I wouldn't mind kissing that man between the cheeks.
Narrator: ...and he realized there is something distinct about the way he speaks.
Tobias F�nke: Tobias, you blowhard.
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cardscott5
Creepy Little Bastard
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Re: Rene Dupree picture, I didn't know Ali G got into wrestling.
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kiez
Rated R Superstar 
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Daniel Bryan? Really?
They've already mentioned him being king of the indies...Name change just to keep from giving "wwe" credibility to bryan danielson, incase he
jumps ship?
Cabana is awesome.
We fight like men, but bitch like women.
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DrBoz
Showstopper
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quote:
Originally posted by kiez
Daniel Bryan? Really?
They've already mentioned him being king of the indies...Name change just to keep from giving "wwe" credibility to bryan danielson, incase he
jumps ship?
Not so much "wwe credibility." Just the standard "we want to own your name" philosophy. At least it is close enough that, like Lucky said, when
you do a search on him you also see Bryan Danielson stuff immediately. Daniel Bryan is definitely not catchy, although I don't know that Bryan
Danielson is either. The only reason it could be is because he made it catchy with his work. I guess they have more hope for him this time around,
seeing as he was Bryan Danielson the last time he was in WWE (at least I think they called him that in the one match I saw with Cena back in his
yellow hammer pants wearin' days).
"I guess my heaviest experience is gravity...keeps my feet down...it's like weighing me down...I can't get my arms up now...like my legs
fall...I'm falling down and I can't...it's making me heavier...I'm heavier...I can't move...Now I'm a dead dog in
water...I can't...I'm floating but I sink to the water...I'm a wet sandwich...wet with meat...I'm broken salami...tiny
mustaches are heavy...I'm falling...."
- Chester from Sifl and Olly
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salmonjunkie
American Dream 
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Daniel Bryan / Bryan Danielson... pfft. Who cares? The real question is, will they continue his nickname The American Dragon?
Personally, I think he�s a [freaking homosexual].
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Stu
Caledonian Crippler 
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quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
Daniel Bryan / Bryan Danielson... pfft. Who cares? The real question is, will they continue his nickname The American Dragon?
Isn't that the name of a cartoon show?
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kiez
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Yes, it is/was and WWE called him the American Dragon back when he faced banana pants Cena.
We fight like men, but bitch like women.
John "Realest of the Real" "Thug Life" "True Soldier" "Stone Rock-a-Mania" Cena -BlackDragon
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Wickedfrost
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quote:
Originally posted by DrBoz
Heroin possession, possession of paraphernalia, two DWI's, and an assault/battery charge. All occurred in the last three years (since turning
18). DWI's were within two months of each other. Kid needs to figure some shit out before even thinking about going into the family
business.
Like what? Where to sign his name on the TNA contract?
Stay wet my friends.
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Chris Is Good517
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Linky
quote:
WWE confirmed in a new press release today that the winner of the first NXT season will "receive a WWE contract" putting them on the main roster.
Here's how the NXT roster is going to be broke down by heels and faces:
* R-Truth (face) and David Otunga (heel)
* Chris Jericho (heel) and Wade Barrett (heel)
* Carlito (heel) and Michael Tarver (heel)
* Christian (face) and Heath Slater (heel)
* CM Punk (heel) and Darren Young (face)
* William Regal (heel) and Skip Sheffield (face)
* Matt Hardy (face) and Justin Gabriel (face)
* The Miz (heel) and Daniel Bryan (face)
For some reason I really expected Otunga to be a face, but otherwise I think that's just about what everybody was expecting, right?
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LuckyLopez
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Well its what I expected because its what they all were in FCW.
Otunga plays a cocky asshole who boasts about being on TV and eating dinner with the President. Really, he's a pretty nothing wrestler and
pedestrian talker and all he really has going for him is the fact that Entertainment Tonight and Perez Hilton will say "Jennifer Hudson with husband
WWE wrestler David Otunga", so it just makes sense to play that character up as a heel.
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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quote:
Originally posted by LuckyLopez
Well its what I expected because its what they all were in FCW.
Otunga plays a cocky asshole who boasts about being on TV and eating dinner with the President. Really, he's a pretty nothing wrestler and
pedestrian talker and all he really has going for him is the fact that Entertainment Tonight and Perez Hilton will say "Jennifer Hudson with husband
WWE wrestler David Otunga", so it just makes sense to play that character up as a heel.
And he's a Harvard grad meaning instant heel. He thinks he's better than us!!!1! And he's BLACK! Uppity negro. Who does he think
he is? Obama?
He should have been paired with Punk so he could rip off his line and tweak it - "Graduating from Harvard means I'm better than you!"
[Edited on 2-23-2010 by C.MontgomeryPunk]
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kiez
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Do you think "Daniel Bryan" will still wrestle his style? How long before him and Regal mix it up?
We fight like men, but bitch like women.
John "Realest of the Real" "Thug Life" "True Soldier" "Stone Rock-a-Mania" Cena -BlackDragon
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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How is this show actually going to work? Will there be matches between the rookies? Will their mentor be at ringside to manage them? Will there be
backstage "reality" segments? Is it taped at the SD! arena taping in front of the live audience? Will there be training segments? Will Miz make
Danielson do stupid shit to work on "entertaining people"?
I'm interested to see how they plan to put this together but I just can't see how the wwe can get 16 weeks out of this.
I guess they have more talent than ECW did - 16 active wrestlers and have better talent to work with. Will we get three matches a week? Will Raw and
SD talent be brought in to freshen things up?
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Psycho Penguin
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I'd have to imagine the first few weeks will be training/reality show and then incorporate matches in there, bringing in SD/RAW guys to have
matches with eventually, then matches with each other, then matches vs the mentors. I'm sure they could get 16 weeks out of it if thats the
plan.
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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Thinking about this a bit, basically NXT combines everything the wwe did in the past to get debuting talent over. Pre-debut promos, pairing them up
with a mouthpiece/manager and/or putting them in a tagteam with a veteran. It takes it a step further and gives the rookies their own show to ensure
regular television time which is essential. If any of the NXT talent debuted cold on Raw or SD! (ensuring no reaction or match interest) lost their
first match and then wasn't on television for a few weeks, they're basically fighting a steep uphill battle. I wonder if the wwe in a
bout of revisionist history thinks "Hey that worked for Cena" and figures that's the way to find superstars.
How many top guys were in a tag team and/or had a manager early in their careers? Most of them.
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Chris Is Good517
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quote:
Originally posted by C.MontgomeryPunk
How many top guys were in a tag team and/or had a manager early in their careers? Most of them.
HBK- was in the Rockers
Taker- had Brother Love/Paul Bearer
HHH- had Chyna then paired with HBK
Orton- put in Evolution
Batista- put in Evolution
Edge- teamed with Christian
So yeah, you're pretty much right. Cena and Punk appear to be exceptions and Jericho was over before WWE brought him in so I didn't count
him, but if we had to assign an arbitrary number to it, I'd bet 75-80% of main eventers in WWE will have come from a tag team/stable/some sort
of allegiance or association with an already successful veteran
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theflammablemanimal
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Don't forget:
SCSA - Dibiase
Rock - Nation of Domination, then the Corporation
Undertaker - Dibiase (hey, Dibiase was pretty good)
Christian - Brood
Booker - Harlem Heat
Benoit/Eddie - The Radicalz
And other guys who didn't have managers but became WWE champ:
Sheamus
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