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Elimination Chamber Discussion/Predictions
With the PPV tomorrow, I figured I'd go ahead and start up a thread for it. And hopping over on WWE.com, I was pretty shocked to realize
there's a grand total of four matches officially announced for it. Anybody know if that's a record for fewest number of matches
announced the day before a PPV? Granted, of course two of those matches are Chamber matches, but it seems like they'd both have to go over an
hour in order to fill up the entire PPV (unless they plan to add an unannounced match like they did with Miz/MVP at the Rumble). Anyhow, my picks:
Smackdown Elimination Chamber: I'll pick Jericho, though I'm not 100% sure of that. He certainly seems like a near-lock, but I just
have a weird feeling the WWE is going to try and pull some kind of swerve. I hope I'm wrong though.
RAW Elimination Chamber: I think Sheamus retains here. It's been more than noted here that he's desperately in need of credible
wins and winning the Elimination Chamber would definitely be a huge step towards that. I predict he wins and then we have some kind of tournament or
one-off match on RAW to determine the number contender for WrestleMania (kind of like how they did Edge/Orton/Michaels to determine who faced Cena
before WrestleMania 23).
Drew McIntyre vs. Kane: No question McIntyre wins here, unless Kane gets a DQ or count out victory. Not really much else to say.
Gail Kim vs. Maryse: I could really see this going either way, but I love Maryse, so I'm gonna pick her.
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quote:
Originally posted by the goon
I was pretty shocked to realize there's a grand total of four matches officially announced for it. Anybody know if that's a record
for fewest number of matches announced the day before a PPV?
I think that record still sits firmly with December to Dismember which had a grand total of two announced matches.
-- Jericho wins. I'm hoping for a backstage segment with Michaels taking out Morrison and his already-injured ankle, and taking his spot in the
chamber. HBK costs Taker his title, and leaves the door open for Jericho to win.
-- Sheamus wins. The plan for a while seems to be Cena vs. Batista, some sort of Legacy match and Sheamus vs. HHH. Unless HHH wins and Sheamus gets
his rematch at Mania, but it seems more likely to play out with the heel champ going into Mania against a face challenger.
-- McIntyre wins. Hopefully it's a clean win too, giving him a bit of credibility as champ.
-- Maryse wins. For no other reason than she's kind of a bitch and I love her.
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Big Show and Miz aren't currently booked for the show, are they? I could see an impromptu match against Crime Tyme or Goldust/Yoshi happening at
the PPV.
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If that's the case I can't blame WWE for not advertising it. Although given MVP and Henry pinning them in a non-title match on Monday
wouldn't they make more logical (and not totally jobberiffic) challengers?
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the goon
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quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore I think that record still sits firmly with December to Dismember which had a grand total of two
announced matches.
Ah yes, I completely forgot about that. That will probably hold the record forever.
quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore HBK costs Taker his title, and leaves the door open for Jericho to win.
That's how I would love to see it play out. Michaels super kicks Taker and has the match won, but instead of pinning Taker, he drags Jericho
over and lays him on top for the pin and then Michaels just leaves and gets counted out (thus giving Jericho the final victory and title). I just
think that would add a lot to the feud, showing that Michaels wants Taker at WrestleMania so bad that not only did he give up a chance to be world
champion, but he allowed his arch-nemesis Jericho to take the title as well (not to mention that would probably fully establish Michaels as a heel).
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punkerhardcore
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Shawn mentioned to Teddy Long in that backstage skit two weeks ago that he wanted to get into the Elimination Chamber so he could win the belt and
give Taker the rematch at Mania. So while I think he will be the one to cost Taker the title, I think he will try to win at the end, but still come
up short to Jericho.
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The lack of well-hyped matches is pretty inexcusable, but in this case, I think there might be SOME sort of method to the madness.
There are simply plenty of things they can do to fill up time and create a nice, full, twisty-turny show, when you consider who is not booked into an
official match:
(1) ShowMiz should and probably will defend the titles, and I agree that MVP/Henry are the logical choice at this point. Why not set that deal up on
Monday, when you could have hyped it in the immediate aftermath of the upset/non-title win? Probably because that would have ruined any sense of drama
over ShowMiz's scheduled title defense the next night on ECW.... flimsy excuse, but I can see WWE thinking it's the right play.
(2) Shawn Michaels is not booked. Everybody and their mother is now expecting him to be a surprise entry into the SD Chamber. This will take some
doing, but would be worth it to cost Taker the title (it really should end up on Jericho).
(3) Batista is not booked. His new "I don't owe you people anything" shtick means he doesn't owe us matches (getting counted out) or
explanations (for attacking Bret), but I figure we get he'll tip his hand at the PPV as prelude to his announced appearance on RAW.
(SYNTHESIS OF 2 AND 3) I still feel like a nice little play for WWE would be for Vince to pull some strings to create a Batista-for-HBK trade. Vince
wants Batista to be his hired goon for dealing with Bret, and in exchange, he sticks Teddy Long with Shawn Michaels as "adequate compensation."
There are a billion different ways to play things from there, but they could play out in a combination of the PPV (Shawn getting into Taker's
business) and on RAW (more of Batista's side of the story, though he could also interfere and cost Cena in the other Chamber match, too). The
various skits and machinations to establish the trade and the severity of Morrison's injury (or to have Michaels punk out R-Truth as a swerve)
would be a night-long dealy made up of either backstage segments or in-arena announcements/promos.
(4) Bret is not booked. But no matter how shitty that little leg-breaking skit was on Monday, you can bet it'll be recycled ad nauseum on the
PPV in the form of video packages. Because nothing beats paying to see something that already happened on free TV~! Either that, or Vince/Batista will
address it (and the Mystery Female Driver) in a skit/promo on the PPV. It won't be an issue that is ignored for 3 hours, I promise you that.
(5) Edge is not booked. But regardless, he really oughta be ubiquitous on the PPV, either in backstage skits/confrontations to tease the ambiguity of
which title he'd chase, or in a bigger stand-alone sort of segment/promo (naming his WM opponent after doing guest commentary, say). Edge needy
PPV time, not just for the good of the stories, but because he's one of WWE's three best all-around performers and it'd be stupid
not to put him to use entertaining us.
So looking at the big picture... yeah, only 4 announced matches. But 2 of those are guaranteed to be in the 30-40 minute range. And there's just
that huge list of 5 things above that all oughta be dealt with, but not really in ways you can hype in a traditional way before a show.
But they WILL happen. And they will eat up a substantial amount of time... time well-spent, or poorly-spent? I really dunno. But spent it will
be...
To be utterly serious: I'm more concerned that WWE thinks McIntyre/Kane is worth ITS time than I am about what unannounced things they'll
do with all the rest of the time. Something I'd FF on Friday nights, and here it is, live and in color, on a pay-per-view. Whee?
It's really gonna be on the SD Chamber match and proper use of the unannounced swerves/unbooked talent to "make" this show.... everything else
looks like a giant whiff to me on paper.
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I'm going to predict the final three in the elimination chamber are HBK, Taker, and Jericho. Taker pins HBK but when he is about to pin Jericho
HBK superkicks him before leaving the chamber giving Jericho a cheap win. This sets up Taker/HBK II and makes sure Jericho's victory is weak.
Sounds about right for WWE.
John Cena wins the other chamber because a world title is just what the Cena/Hart v Vince/Batista feud needs (sarcasm). And if Sheamus goes to
wrestlemania as champ it would be harder to call him the weakest booked world champion of all time.
There will probably also be something hyping NXT. Maybe the new guys will be shown backstage though it'll probably just be a video package.
Edit: I actually may be getting behind this Cena winning idea. Batista somehow sneaks into the chamber and knocks out Cena's opponent. Cena
gets to be upset that he won the title cheaply and it would make sense for Batista to want Cena to have the title. It would end up retroactively
making Batista's actions the last few weeks make sense.
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Uh, ECW One Night Stand had ZERO announced matches before the show.
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LuckyLopez
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I think its safe to say that One Night Stand, being a non-WWE roster show featuring many non-WWE wrestlers and existing solely to be a homage to
another company was a special situation that people would hold separately from the routine WWE shows that Elimination Chamber or December to Dismember
are that follow up on existing stories and exist in the current storylines. ONS was a special and (at the time at least) one-time event that meant
well more than the matches. Plus the unannounced card held true to ECW's long dead booking style and habit of not announcing matches ahead of
time.
Of course the thing both have in common is that WWE probably believes(ed) that the Chamber sells the PPV or doesn't and thus gets lazy and
doesn't book the rest of the show. Pretty much the full extension of WWE's general disregard for the undercard, and probably a natural
product of putting most of your booking energy into the top 25% of the card and then sticking 12 of your top dudes in 2 matches instead of 6.
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Cherokee Jack
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Most of One Night Stand's matches WERE announced, albeit on WWE.com only. They didn't actively promote them on television, but as I
remember it, all of the matches save for Awesome/Tanaka (and Sabu/Rhino, but that was set up as an impromptu deal during the show) were announced on
the website.
As for my Elimination Chamber thoughts:
RAW Elimination Chamber: Cena won't win, because he's attached to the Bret/Vince/Batista build for Mania. Kofi I might have
thought had a shot to be the major upset a few months ago, but his push has stalled so much that I don't see how he could possibly win. Randy
or Ted I think are building to facing each other at Mania, so I don't see either of them taking the belt. HHH is the only possible new champion
I could see, but if he's going to be in the title match at Mania, I see him being the face chasing the heel champion, so I pick Sheamus
to retain.
Smackdown Elimination Chamber: R-Truth seems to be getting a bit more of a push lately, but he's still nowhere near believable World
Champ level. In another part of the year, I might almost believe in the possibility of the huge Morrison upset, but not heading into Mania. Rey and
Punk I think are going to get each other at Mania, and I don't think the belt will be involved. I agree that Michaels will cost Taker the belt
in one way or another (I also wouldn't be surprised to see him take out Morrison or Truth and take their spot), and Jericho will win the
belt and go on to face Edge at Mania.
Intercontinental Championship Match: 95% certain Drew McIntyre wins the match. 100% certain that he remains champion.
Divas Title Tourney Final: Maryse seems almost too obvious of a winner, and if the rest of my picks are right, then we're talking about
all heels winning the mens' matches, so I'll say Gail Kim wins, giving us one face win for the night.
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the goon
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Cherokee Jack beat me too it, but I was going to say that I was 95% positive that most of the matches from the first One Night Stand were announced in
advanced (as I recall being especially psyched for Benoit/Guerrero).
quote:
Originally posted by TownOfDalem John Cena wins the other chamber because a world title is just what the Cena/Hart v Vince/Batista feud
needs (sarcasm). And if Sheamus goes to wrestlemania as champ it would be harder to call him the weakest booked world champion of all time.
I'd be all for Cena/Batista being for the title, but that would shut Triple H out of being in a world title match at WrestleMania and there is
absolutely no way that's going to happen.
quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore Shawn mentioned to Teddy Long in that backstage skit two weeks ago that he wanted to get into the
Elimination Chamber so he could win the belt and give Taker the rematch at Mania.
I went back and watched that segment and you're totally right. The one big logic hole I see in Shawn's idea is that what if Edge decided
he wanted to wrestle for the world title at Mania and thus it turned into either Michaels/Edge or Michaels/Edge/Taker.
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You guys all think the Bret injury was story-real? Or is this a setup for a segment where Bret appears in a wheelchair/crutches, Vince taunts him,
turns his back, "OMG! HE'S STANDING UP!", *WHAM*, "WE GOT A MATCH AT WRESTLEMANIA!"?
Oh yeah, Sheamus and Jericho - count me in on that.
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Smackdown: Jericho. Punk's already locked in a feud with Rey; R-Truth and Morrison are cepts for the MitB match; UT is locked into the HBK
match. The only swerve is if UT somehow wins, then loses the belt pretty promptish on Smackdown.
RAW: Sheamus, with HHH going after him for Mania. DiBiase and Orton to somehow mess up. Cena, as mentioned above, ain't going to win.
Drew over Kane. If they have him lose it'll pretty much kill his push.
Maryse over Kim.
That's four heel winners, so I expect I'm totally wrong.
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theflammablemanimal
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quote:
Originally posted by deshorta
That's four heel winners
That's a good point. The most logical victors all seem to be heels, especially if Showmiz gets thrown on the card. Must be some kind of swerve
or something (even that Bret fake injury dealy) to send fans home happy (although Edge coming out to announce he'll face Jericho could do that).
And if Sheamus does lose, hopefully it will only be after he elminates 1 of the big 3, because eliminating Kofi/Dibiase does nothing for him.
I've been thinking for weeks that I'd get this PPV but now I'm torn. Nothing interesting is happening besides the Chambers and it
seems like Morrison will be out/severely limited. I might just have to save my money for Destination X, Lockdown, and WM.
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As for HBK winning the title or costing Taker the title: Given how they're doing the whole "things are falling apart for Shawn" routine, what
if HBK tries to interfere to cost Taker the belt and while Jericho is about to get the cheap win in comes Edge. (Or alternatively, HBK wins, thinks
he'll get Taker at WM as a rematch but Edge says he'll fight HBK, leading to a month of Shawn trying to lose the belt or something
ridiculous).
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quote:
Originally posted by wings76fan
As for HBK winning the title or costing Taker the title: Given how they're doing the whole "things are falling apart for Shawn" routine, what
if HBK tries to interfere to cost Taker the belt and while Jericho is about to get the cheap win in comes Edge. (Or alternatively, HBK wins, thinks
he'll get Taker at WM as a rematch but Edge says he'll fight HBK, leading to a month of Shawn trying to lose the belt or something
ridiculous).
We know Taker-Shawn 2 will happen. If it doesn't, then a lot has changed in WWE. But don't see WWE setting up free-TV title matches
inbetween EC and Mania. It would undermine all their "LAST CHANCE TO HEADLINE WRESTLEMANIA" talk about EC.
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Booooooo "swerve".
Cena wins. McMahon orders immediate defense vs. Batista.
Batista pins and is new champ.
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the goon
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Well, I have to eat my words since I said Cena wouldn't win the Elimination Chamber and shut Triple H out of a world title match at WrestleMania
(okay, so Batista is technically the champ, but same difference). But I still can't believe Triple H won't be involved in a title match
somehow, so I'm wondering if he takes the belt off of Batista (with Cena interference) on RAW tomorrow or something, though I don't know
if they would have the title jump between four guys in two nights. Otherwise, the match sounded pretty good from the recap I read over on 411.
And I guess we can now officially put Sheamus with the likes of Rey Mysterio and CM Punk for worst title reigns ever.
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theflammablemanimal
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Did Sheamus even eliminate anyone who mattered (HHH/Orton)?
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Cherokee Jack
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Nope. DiBiase pinned Orton, Kofi pinned DiBiase, Sheamus pinned Kofi, HHH pinned Sheamus, Cena forced HHH to submit.
EDIT: And yes, I think Sheamus has overtaken both Punk and Rey for worst reign. They at least got a couple of token title defense pins over JBL,
whereas Sheamus has had two defenses, only one of which was on PPV, and both ended in DQs.
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If they're going to try and capitalize off of Danielson being an indie/internet sensation wouldn't it be a good idea for folks interested
to be able to find him in the internet by allowing him to be called "Bryan Danielson" rather than Dan Bryan?
With Batista getting the title, who does HHH fight at WM assuming Batista/Cena?
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williamssl
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He can still fight Sheamus in a "now this means a lot less than it could have" match.
Unless we get the belt off Bats in the next couple weeks like Goon said.
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LuckyLopez
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quote:
Originally posted by C.MontgomeryPunk
If they're going to try and capitalize off of Danielson being an indie/internet sensation wouldn't it be a good idea for folks interested
to be able to find him in the internet by allowing him to be called "Bryan Danielson" rather than Dan Bryan?
In fairness, if you google "Daniel Bryan" the second link is for Bryan Danielson's wikipedia page. Given enough time most every google search
will just yield redirects to Danielson.
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williamssl
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No Divas championship in favor of a Vicki-called Divas cross-brand tag match won by Layla/Michelle over Gail/Maryse.
"Impromptu" US Title match between Miz and MVP won by Miz.
Whatever.
US hockey victory over Canada was the right call to watch.
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