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Author: Subject: (NO LONGER SPOILERS) Smackdown Spoilers: Fuck the WWE Edition (In Which OO Wets Itself at News of Orton's Title Win)
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posted on 5-6-2011 at 03:03 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
But he's not suggesting that WWE had some master plan all along. He's suggesting that maybe WWE steps back and looks at the bigger picture and says "Oh, well, maybe this isn't what the fans wanted so let's re-evaluate and change the game plan so we can deliver something a little closer to what might satisfy the fans without compromising our overall goals". Which I think comes out to Christian getting a long-term program with Orton for the title and maybe even an upset win where he actually carries the title for a full PPV cycle before Orton ultimately wins the feud and takes the title onto the next guy.

Look, man, someone else brought up the Matt/Edge/Lita thing and when the fans were chanting "we want Matt", what the fans meant was "we want Matt to come back and kick the dogshit out of Edge" (2005, such a different time), but what they got was Matt getting rehired and turned into Edge's bitch. So WWE has shown at least a lukewarm willingness to compromise and give us what they want, but they're going to do it their way. So if the fans scream for it loud enough, Christian very well could get another opportunity to try to run with the ball, and if he does it's up to him to make them think he's worth it- not an easy task since they'll clearly call any audible with the intent of cutting his legs out from under him.





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posted on 5-6-2011 at 03:05 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Goon, WWE does suck and this is a prime example of it. TNA sucks too. So, get your WWE sk8er boi glasses off, and actually look at the product.


Well, said by me in this very thread:

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But seriously, I don't fucking get this at all. Outside of just being part of the Eternal Push Of Randy Orton, I'm wondering if this was done as some sort of "thank you" to Orton for moving over to Smackdown. Or maybe the WWE got cold feet about having Christian as world champion. I have no idea.

Either way, it fucking sucks.


If I were coming on here and saying "Come on guys, it's not that bad of a booking move" then yeah, I'd agree it's time to take the "WWE fanboi" glasses off.

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Originally posted by DevilSoprano They couldn't even give Christian a WEEK as champ and you think MAYBE WWE creative has an idea. Blinders man, seriously.


Okay, I should have maybe clarified things a bit more. I 100% don't think they're going to turn Orton heel and have him duck Christian; I was just saying that the storyline easily writes itself if WWE creative were so inclined (which they won't be). However, I do wonder if this backlash over Christian dropping the belt is going to work it's way onto TV and maybe change whatever plans (if any) they had. If next week's Smackdown tapings roll round and we get Orton vs. Henry as the next feud for the world title and Christian teams up with Hornswoggle to take on the Usos, then obviously not and you can call me retarded for even entertaining the idea. But until then, I don't see anything wrong with speculating as to whether the WWE might try to capitalize on any of the buzz while they can.

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If internet backlash meant anything to WWE do you think Daniel Bryan would be involved in a storyline revolving around Gail Kim and The Bellas? Do you think Rey Mysterio would win almost every major feud he's been in for the past few years? Would CM Punk have been absolutely buried by Randy Orton and John Cena and Undertaker and whoever else the past year? Would guys that the internet has embraced/come around on like Drew McIntyre, Dolph Ziggler, Cody Rhodes, Sheamus, and quite a few others be basically glorified JTTS? The WWE has never and will never care about internet backlash...except in the fact that this may actually wind up hurting Christian when he loses to Randy Orton in 45 seconds in his rematch.
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Would guys that the internet has embraced/come around on like Drew McIntyre, Dolph Ziggler, Cody Rhodes, Sheamus, and quite a few others be basically glorified JTTS?



You mean the guy who just got moved to Raw for a fresh start, the former World champion, the guy who just got himself on the map with a combination of a great gimmick and a lot of effort from Rey Mysterio to make him look good, and a former WWE champion who will probably be the de facto #1 heel on Smackdown unless Christian turns? I'll concede that things aren't looking promising for McIntyre and Ziggler right now, but Cody is kind of one of the best things going in WWE right now (and as recently as this time last year I NEVER thought those were words I would ever type) and Sheamus is always going to be an upper-tier star, especially now that he's off Raw, where word was the creative team wasn't a fan of his.

Anyway, you're probably right that WWE won't pay much heed to internet backlash, but you know what they WILL listen to? The people in the arena who have the power to chant "We want Christian" and "boring" to Orton. Those are the people who have to do their parts.





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posted on 5-6-2011 at 03:24 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
In response to Dev, I'd just say this is a different case than the usual "Internet darlings" like Punk and Bryan not being pushed. I don't think anyone is really sending pissed off messages to WWE.com or over Twitter because CM Punk is jobbing. There just seems to be a buzz about this that you don't see too often (the last time that I think would be comparable would be Daniel Bryan's firing and at the very least he was brought back in the main event of the WWE's second-biggest PPV of the year and then got a lengthy US title run, and he's not even on the level that Christian is). When Joey Styles and Orton himself are acknowledging the backlash on Twitter, you know there's a little more buzz than normal.

And again, it just goes back to me wondering if the WWE might be influenced by that in regards to what happens on TV. They may just horribly fuck things up even more next week at the Smackdown tapings, but until then I'm just wondering.

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posted on 5-6-2011 at 06:40 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
This spoilers thread will probably get more replies and views than the actual Smackdown thread





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This spoilers thread will probably get more replies and views than the actual Smackdown thread


Oh, there's no doubt about that. As a guy who rarely ventures into the "Spoilers" forum, it looks like this is a record number of posts before a show actually airs.

Which can only mean one thing:

We all love Christian!

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posted on 5-6-2011 at 11:59 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Anyway, you're probably right that WWE won't pay much heed to internet backlash, but you know what they WILL listen to? The people in the arena who have the power to chant "We want Christian" and "boring" to Orton. Those are the people who have to do their parts.


I don't know man, did you HEAR the MASSIVE cheers Orton was getting in his first appearance on Smackdown, like he was some kind of conquering hero? He could barely even start with his promo without the fans erupting. I think any "boring" chants would be drowned out by the other 95% of the crowd that are cheering their asses off for him, sadly.





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I don't know man, did you HEAR the MASSIVE cheers Orton was getting in his first appearance on Smackdown, like he was some kind of conquering hero? He could barely even start with his promo without the fans erupting. I think any "boring" chants would be drowned out by the other 95% of the crowd that are cheering their asses off for him, sadly.


I've wondered this for a while, where the hell did all this Orton love come from from the fans. I noticed it months ago and it baffled me, it's not like he's got bundles of natural charisma or is exciting to watch in the ring by BY GOD does he get some cheers.

Absolutely baffled.

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Originally posted by Chris Is Good517

I don't know man, did you HEAR the MASSIVE cheers Orton was getting in his first appearance on Smackdown, like he was some kind of conquering hero? He could barely even start with his promo without the fans erupting. I think any "boring" chants would be drowned out by the other 95% of the crowd that are cheering their asses off for him, sadly.


Just watched the show--MAN did people go crazy for Orton winning. Wasn't even a split reaction. Non-stop standing O, and Christian got a few pity claps as he headed off.

I'm willing to say McMahon's instincts might be right here...much as we may like to reward tenure, Randy's six years younger than Christian and will be around that much longer. The calculus of "we can create another star in Christian" may fall flat next to "we can have three, four, five years of Randy Orton as unstoppable, and then when we have him lose to some upstart, it will MEAN something." They'll just have to commit to that loss when it comes--does anyone remember Swagger beating Orton clean?





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I've wondered this for a while, where the hell did all this Orton love come from from the fans. I noticed it months ago and it baffled me, it's not like he's got bundles of natural charisma or is exciting to watch in the ring by BY GOD does he get some cheers.

Absolutely baffled.


I think it's getting to be about time that we start to see something: the WWE fans are retarded by our standards. That's all there is to it. The WWE fan is the 10 year old who thinks that this shit is actually real. It's the out-of-touch, socially awkward 20-something that is so far removed from the internet and the rumor mill and all that that thinks these guys doing what they're doing is inspiring and is truly surprised by the things they do (and might also think this is real). And it's the hillbillies who know this is fake but rank this up there with monster trucks, NASCAR, and the rodeo as the most awesome form of entertainment around (and also think it is funny as shit to let their kids think this is real and tape their reactions to it to put on YouTube).

We may all want to like WWE, but we're just not that big of a voice in live events (outside of Philly) to actually matter to them. WWE knows this. It is the exact reason why Orton matches never get boring chants and every thirty-seconds-for-five-words sentence he says is cheered as though it is the most bad-ass thing anyone has ever uttered. It's the reason why they treat the predominantly male "Cena Sucks" chants as "cute" and "jealous" and basically setups for female/small child "Let's Go Cena!" chants. And it's the reason that guys like William Regal and Daniel Bryan go out and do goofy stuff rather than be "technical badasses" and wait for the internet fanbase to flood shows with huge cheers.

WWE will only cater to us as much as they need to. When the TV ratings start to slip, they'll try something like give Punk or Bryan or whoever the current internet darling is a title run or a bigger push just to get that extra .2 ratings. Christian was getting good responses. But not bigger than Orton's. He'll get a rematch, but only as a "jaded victim". And WWE might let him win. But he's not a big picture push. It sucks, but we all know this. WWE will only cater to us once or twice a year max. The key is to only keep watching while it is entertaining, and when it stops being that, stop watching.





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Totally 100% agree with you there Noob. You made a lot of good points that I'm sure we all knew (at least deep down) but not many of us have wanted to admit to ourselves.

To add to other parts of the conversation- I'm also left in a state of confusion and wonder as to why Orton is as popular as he is. I can't stand the guy, and have hated his character from day 1 (and I'm not a big fan of the man himself, from things I've read).

I've boiled the fans love of Orton down to one main thing- the RKO.

Seriously... that's it. It's a great finisher, it can be hit out of nowhere and in a bunch of different ways. Who didn't markout for the Diamond Cutter back in the day? That move alone practically turned DDP to a face (although DDP actually had charisma to back it up and he could form full sentences). Orton should be eternally grateful every single moment that DDP gave his blessing for Orton to use the move as his finisher. B/c I could almost guarantee you he'd be NOTHING without it.

Orton has nothing else that make him truly stand out. Is he a decent looking dude? I guess he's "man-pretty" and will get many women in the audience excited, but there are others that I guess would qualify in the same way.

He can sell well and from what I hear the other Superstars like working with him because he "works soft" and isn't as apt to injure anyone else. But once again, these are traits I know other Superstars have, so I just don't get all the love, except for the RKO.

Go ahead, imagine Orton with another finisher. (Like that god-awful one he originally had- the one that almost every other new wrestler uses- MVP wound up using it for awhile (i forget if it was called the Playmaker or Play of the Day- it was move where you grab the opponents arm, put your leg over their head and swing forward. Really lame looking.) Yeah, that'd get people to pop...

And even if he picked something else- go ahead, can you HONESTLY tell me that fans would give a crap about Orton if he didn't have the RKO in his arsenal as his finisher? I'd wager to say definitely not.

It's COOL to see people get Diamond Cutter'd. It's easy to do (hey kids- even though you're not supposed to, you can try it at home, bc it doesn't hurt too bad!) and this passed onto Orton. Especially when he was hitting it on guys flying at him in all sorts of ways. As much as I dislike Orton, I'll admit the visual of him hitting the RKO on Evan Bourne out of the SSP is pretty sweet. But I wouldn't base an entire show around a guy bc they only pop for the one MOMENT (or the expectation of that moment).

But that's just me. This is a business and Orton makes them money. It sucks but that's how it rolls (I just believe Christian could ALSO make them money. I still wear my Captain Charisma shirt- and I've had that thing for like 5-6 years). I think he could move merchandise and get people into the show (as evidenced by all the passion on this forum for the guy. Just unfortunate that Vince can't realize it.

So yeah that's my take on Orton- agree? Disagree?

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So Orton and Cena are the two WWE champions? Hell. Someone call me some time in 2012 when one of them loses and makes things fun again.
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I think it's getting to be about time that we start to see something: the WWE fans are retarded by our standards. That's all there is to it. The WWE fan is the 10 year old who thinks that this shit is actually real. It's the out-of-touch, socially awkward 20-something that is so far removed from the internet and the rumor mill and all that that thinks these guys doing what they're doing is inspiring and is truly surprised by the things they do (and might also think this is real). And it's the hillbillies who know this is fake but rank this up there with monster trucks, NASCAR, and the rodeo as the most awesome form of entertainment around (and also think it is funny as shit to let their kids think this is real and tape their reactions to it to put on YouTube).



Apologies for venturing further afield into off topic territory, but can I pick someone's brain on the economic consequences of this? Because my perceptions of the WWE is one of a company whose live revenue stagnates, PPV revenue monthly is stagnant or declining, and who is harvesting it's past library at a progressively faster rate as a result of this very shift in philosophy, probably because the demographics you've mentioned above are losing their buying power.

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To WWE's credit, it markets its merchandising equally towards us and kids. Because they know we're suckers for nostalgia and kids love anything action-packed. Between their DVD's, their video games featuring legends, their online video library, and their occasionally catchy T-Shirt (the Miz shirt in particular that I've seen way too many of), it's not like WWE is a particularly horribly run business. They make stupid wrestling decisions, yes, and if Vince McMahon was in charge of any other type of business, he would have gone bankrupt decades ago, but they know how to run this business and do it particularly well.

I mean, hey: we're still kinda watching, right?





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I mean, hey: we're still kinda watching, right?


I haven't paid for a PPV in a while (WM26), even then it was split 3 ways at a friends house. The last DVD I bought was the Savage one. I don't have cable so I don't watch the shows. If I want to watch a PPV, I torrent it, and avoid the net for spoilers.

I went to house show last august, there was about 6000 people in a 15000 seat arena. I paid $75, everyone who paid for $65 or $50 tickets got a free upgrade to the $75 stands. The show started at 8pm and was over by 10pm (with intermission). The airport stalkers of my town and a few in the know told me the guys were catching a red eye flight straight after the show for the next night. I'm not going this year.

I live in Australia and here is the 2011 WWE tour schedule http://www.wwelivetour.com/eventlistings?country=au&state;=&unix;_event_start=&term;_node_tid_depth=All Also add another night straight after in New Zealand. 6 cities in 6 nights over 2 countries and then make it back in time for a live Raw in bumfuck idaho !

The Guys must be fucked and I don't blame them for phoning it in night after night and wrestling the safe boring WWE Orton soft style.

At this point I'm just rambling, but to cut to the point, I've paid WWE $75 in one year. I may still be watching, but I'll be damned if I keep handing over my cash to WWE, and the last I checked the Australian dollar was worth $US1.07.

Fuck WWE, if you want to watch it, go for it. I just ask, don't pay for it, steal it! Hit the fuckers where it hurts right in the wallet, that'll sting Vince more than any unprotected chair shot.

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I normally never read spoilers, but I was just on Wrestlezone and saw the headline "Huge title change at Smackdown tapings" and couldn't help but click on it, just because I knew it meant Christian was fucked.

Either way, it fucking sucks.


Nice...I read about a title change at Live Audio Wrestling too! However, I didn't go any further That didn't save me though...some idiot spoiled it for everyone in a wrestling chat room!! It was the non-spoiler room too...he got kicked and banned right after which was 110% well deserved...and very funny





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I gotta say I think I watched a different show than you guys. The show I saw wasn't about Orton winning the title. It was about Christian losing it. Which is a story that could lead to a second title win that is every bit as dramatic as the first.

Christian has main evented a number of smackdown's since he came back and has been booked super strong. Hell, he just had a competitive match against WWE's #2 babyface that he lost on an awesome looking fluke rko. And when the show closed, it closed on a dejected Christian leaving the arena, not a jubilant Orton holding the title high. I think we just saw the birth of Christian as a wrestler that gets consistently booked in high profile angles (like CM Punk). And even if he doesn't win the title again, I still see him having awesome matches with everyone near the top of the card.

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I gotta say I think I watched a different show than you guys. The show I saw wasn't about Orton winning the title. It was about Christian losing it. Which is a story that could lead to a second title win that is every bit as dramatic as the first.



1) A hundred chimps with typewriters and Vince Russo would have been bright enough to stretch a storyline like this out at least the length of one PPV cycle.

2) And if you have any faith that WWE can successfully tell the story you've just described in a reasonable, creative and satisfactory manner, please see statement #1.

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I actually do have faith that the WWE can tell such a story. Mainly because I have seen them do so on several occasions. See:

A) Chris Benoit losing to Kurt Angle at Royal Rumble 03 only to win the title at Wrestlemania XX a year later
B) Daniel Bryan getting fired last year only to return at the main event of Summer Slam as an instrumental part of winning a 7 on 7 tag match and then going on to win the US title.
C) The entire Jeff Hardy vs CM Punk storyline in 2009 which ended up headlining 2 or 3 PPVs including Summer Slam
D) Eddie Guerrerro losing the US title to Big Show (to much smarky outrage and indgination) only to go on to win the big one from Brock Lesnar a few months later
E) Christian returning from injury and getting a push no one expected which included 3 wins over the royal rumble winner this year and then winning the title months sooner than he was probably going to ad they were very clearly setting a program up between he and Edge that got cut short due to Edge's retirement, thus creating the current storyline where it seems likely to me that Orton has filled in Edge's role as the guy to help elevate Christian to upper card status a la Jericho, Edge and CM Punk (Aka: not the top guy but a guy who is consistently booked in to marquee angles and gets the occasional short title run)

I'm sure I could come up with more examples if I really wracked my brain. And I am not saying WWE has never dropped the ball before (they most certainly have, see the above mentioned Eddie and Benoit title reigns which were both rather lackluster) I even gave up watching wrestling for 4 years because I thought the product was terrible. It was Christian's return to WWE that brought me back because I was convinced I would see him win his first world title (something virtually no one on these boards agreed with me on but ended up happening). I am also not naive enough to think Christian would be pushed as THE guy. I can't see any title regn he would have lasting more than a month or 2 (much like Edge, whe despite winning the strap 11 times never had a lengthy run). But I'm not smarky enough to think that he got completely buried last night either. Quite the contrary. The entire episode of Smackdown was about him and his Cinderella story. See:

A) his opening promo
B) an interview where Teddy Long was asked if it was fair making Christian defend his title so soon
C) constant commentary about Christian's Cinderella story
D) the match was very competitive and went through 3 commercial breaks and ended with a fluke RKo (albeit that's how most Orton matches end)
E) Randy Orton's rushed title celebration so that the camera crew could focus on a dejected Christian leaving the arena

In other words, they told the story and quite well at that. Maybe from here on out, Christian gets shuffled down the card and becomes a Chavo but I more see him becoming a CM Punk: a guy who may or may not get another title run (Punk hasn't had one since 2009) but routinely gets pushed in major story lines that are a rung or 2 below the main event level bit sometimes lands them in big matches with the Main Event players.

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You all say FUCK WWE, yet continue to watch it.

Over. And over. And over. Again.

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A) Chris Benoit losing to Kurt Angle at Royal Rumble 03 only to win the title at Wrestlemania XX a year later



That's quite a bizarre example to pick... you really think that was the beginning and end of a story arc?

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Yeah it was, a year long great story that included coming VERY close in what many thought would be his only chance, getting another shot then banned from having title matches when he got too close for the Heel GM's liking, then winning the one match that guaranteed another title match. Which he won.
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posted on 5-8-2011 at 10:21 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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You all say FUCK WWE, yet continue to watch it.

Over. And over. And over. Again.

Get the fuck out of here with that tired ass argument.





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posted on 5-9-2011 at 03:01 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
A couple of Christian-related news items (taken from Wrestlezone):

One, Jim Ross commented on the title switch:

"Christian and Randy Orton had a great TV match on Smackdown but I don't buy into the 'tragedy' that some fans flooded us with here on our site due to Christian losing the World Title. It isn't as if the loss ended Christian's career and who's to say that 'Captain Charisma' won't regain the title at a later date? Those that truly understand the nature of the genre have a different mindset than those who are knee jerking themselves silly."

Sounds about what you would expect JR to say, but still interesting to hear his take on it I guess.

Two, a fan report from a Smackdown house show in Pensacola, Florida:

"Randy Orton defeated Christian and Sheamus in a Triple Threat match to retain the World Hvt. Championship. Christian got a decent pop, but Orton got pop of the night, hands down. Christian and Orton did a mild stare down mid-match. They hit a suplex/powerbomb combo off the top. They hit a series of their main spots for most of the match. At 10:00 sharp, Orton nailed the RKO on Sheamus for the win. Post match, Christian and Orton stared each other and shook hands. Orton shook hands with fans ringside and up the aisle as the show concluded."

I know it's just a house show, but I take that as a good sign that Christian isn't going to immediately be shuffled down to the midcard.

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