Paddlefoot
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Apparently Alicia got a seperated shoulder in her beatdown by Kong. No word yet on whether it was from Alicia botching something or if Kong went too
stiff on her.
I feel bad for Christian. I'd like to think it's because they see more value for SD in Orton feuding with an angry and dangerous Jericho
(whenever he may be returning), but it's still a slap to the face for Christian. It's hard to beleive though that he'd be totally
surprised by WWE doing this to him. They never saw much value in him other than a partner for Edge and then Jericho before he left for TNA so
there'd be no reason for him to think that much of anything had changed when he came back. Eight years (or whatever) later since he first showed
up and it ought to be clear to everyone by now that the non-stop push for Orton really is a permanent fixture for WEE. And the relative illogic of the
stories they build around him probably isn't going to come to an end either.
GW Bush read Camus because "everyone has to read a book written by a killer whale" - General JC Christian
I downloaded the soundtrack to "Song of the South," and it's 45 minutes of whipcracks, women pleading "please, no," and people screaming.
- the esteemed Dr. Mobute
When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? - John Maynard Keynes
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SeanSmythe
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According to Meltzer (whatever good his word is worth these days) WWE is "shocked" at backlash to the title change.
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Fandom
And I am AWESOME
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Yea I know it's hard for the WWE to understand, but "fans" actually do care about how wrestlers not named John Cena or Randy Orton are
treated...
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SeanSmythe
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quote:
Originally posted by Fandom
Yea I know it's hard for the WWE to understand, but "fans" actually do care about how every other wrestler not named John Cena or Randy Orton
are treated...
fixed.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste
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Paddlefoot
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They're World Entertaininglyment Entertainment, dammit! They'll tell YOU what to like and by God you'll LIKE it!
GW Bush read Camus because "everyone has to read a book written by a killer whale" - General JC Christian
I downloaded the soundtrack to "Song of the South," and it's 45 minutes of whipcracks, women pleading "please, no," and people screaming.
- the esteemed Dr. Mobute
When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? - John Maynard Keynes
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SeanSmythe
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Seems this caused the guys at GeekWeek and Jeff Katz to start planning something wrestling wise.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste
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Chris Is Good517
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quote:
Originally posted by SeanSmythe
According to Meltzer (whatever good his word is worth these days) WWE is "shocked" at backlash to the title change.
I don't get it either, Vince. You'd think they'd be thrilled to be treated to Orton's 23rd title reign in the last 3 years.
Maybe we should have just brought Cena over to wrestle on both shows?
Gee, I wish I was still alive- LuckyLopez R.I.P.
Bachmann: "I haven't had a gaffe... when it comes to the best Republican who take
on Barack Obama and not have any clunker in my record to be able to take him on, it's me."
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Matte
"Family Man" 
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quote:
@RandyOrton Biggest change from Raw to Smackdown...Ignorance x Jealousy + Spoilers = entertaining
tweets!! Keep em coming!!
"I'm a professional. I know exactly what I'm doing." - Jeff Hardy
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Chris Is Good517
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Yeah, good call Randy. We're all just ignorant and jealous. You aren't completely boring, and Christian isn't a talented guy who
just got royally fucked. It's just the haters being haters.
Gee, I wish I was still alive- LuckyLopez R.I.P.
Bachmann: "I haven't had a gaffe... when it comes to the best Republican who take
on Barack Obama and not have any clunker in my record to be able to take him on, it's me."
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Paddlefoot
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Randy needs to turn off the computer for a while and get some good unconscious sleep. It'll do wonders for his density.
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SeanSmythe
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Stolen from another board.
quote:
"You mean...we can have Orton and Cena champs....at the same time?"
I didn't know we could use the 'draft' this way. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHAHAH
-- Vince McMahon. April 2011.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste
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cromartie
Creepy Little Bastard
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So they're bright enough to recognize that Christian winning the title on a PPV would result in buys from fans hoping to see a feel good story
conclude.....but then not bright enough to think that the same people might possibly be upset that the same person toward whom they felt good about
winning would have to job out the title in his very next match?
And these people are allowed to run a business? That makes money?
Seriously. It doesn't even matter that it's Orton. (Though that doesn't help.) How stupid can you be to not even let the guy carry
the strap to the next Pay Per View?
There's always the possibility that we're being played, I suppose but if you want to play people do it in a way that makes them tune in,
not tune out.
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Seanofthedead
Turd Generation Superstar
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quote:
Originally posted by cromartie
So they're bright enough to recognize that Christian winning the title on a PPV would result in buys from fans hoping to see a feel good story
conclude.....but then not bright enough to think that the same people might possibly be upset that the same person toward whom they felt good about
winning would have to job out the title in his very next match?
And these people are allowed to run a business? That makes money?
Seriously. It doesn't even matter that it's Orton. (Though that doesn't help.) How stupid can you be to not even let the guy carry
the strap to the next Pay Per View?
There's always the possibility that we're being played, I suppose but if you want to play people do it in a way that makes them tune in,
not tune out.
This sums it up perfectly. For ages my interest in the product has all but become a passing glance to boards and websites. But with the Rock back and
Christian finally get a deserved main event push I was firmly back into it and was well up for smackdown this week for his first week as champ, but
now... meh. I could take it or leave it. Sure I'll watch his promo on youtube, but other than that I don't think I'll bother.
I am willing to give it time to see whether this goes anywhere, but after seeing his push pulled from underhim prior to his jump to tna (and after the
state of the peeps address on a UK raw I attended where he was more over than batitsta who was in the middle of his mega-push after turning on hhh), I
am expecting nothing more than a re-match on tv next week before Orion goes on to mark Henry and others whilst Christian is relegated back to the
mid-card.
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williamssl
Steers and Queers
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Be interesting to see what fan reaction is on Friday and immediately thereafter when this goes down...and whether it more than counters the negative
reaction from the internet community who reads the spoilers ....or not.
Don't Mess With Texas
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Beer Baron
Fella 
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Dammit. Well that just ruined my Cinco de Mayo.
There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.
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Katie Vick killer
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
quote:
Originally posted by williamssl
So you're saying Christian is going to roid up and kill his family and then himself?
I'm just saying if Christian starts looking like Chris Masters within the next month, they need to put his family in witness protection.
To be fair they both did have to job to Orton!
I don't have cable, so I won't be watching. I would love it if everyone boycotted and the ratings bombed! No doubt WWE think would
interpret this as Christian as a failure and thank god we took the belt off him so soon!
I'm so sick of Orton, he gets beaten and flogged then snap RKO out of nowhere. Much worse than Superman Cena.
Vote Bender
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joseph2112
Creepy Little Bastard
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Reading spoilers this week make me remember why I don't watch this dreck. They couldn't have kept the belt on him for three weeks to see
how it went?
I am getting kind of pissy sitting here thinking about all this, so before a long rant,
Fuck off, Vinnie Mac and Dixie. That is all.
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DudeLove721
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They're shocked at the backlash, despite having ample evidence that no one wants Orton as champ. Sure he pops the crowd at the arena but
he's like kryptonite to those precious viewers they want to get back. Everytime he gets the belt their ratings nosedive or go down quite
blatantly at least... and they're shocked that there's a backlash regarding this move?
Vince, go check yourself into a nursing home already and make sure it's a fancy one for millionaires where they'll let you fuck
yourself... because that's what you need to go and do at this point. Honestly, you have lost the ability to create new talent, recognize when
fans have latched onto someone despite your best efforts to give them no reason to and have no concept of reality anymore. Maybe there's a room
for you in Jeff Hardy's volcano, you senile old fuck.
You know how reliable that coked-up sack of gay is.
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the goon
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Maybe I'm giving the creative team too much credit after this big fuck up, but does anyone else think there's a chance the WWE might spin
all of this backlash buzz into a storyline (kind of like Matt/Edge/Lita or Daniel Bryan)? Like maybe they were planning on pushing Christian back down
to the midcard, but now they're thinking "Shit, there's a lot of buzz about this...let's work it into an angle!"
I don't know, like I say, maybe I'm giving the WWE too much credit. But it just seems like the story would write itself, with Christian
saying the fans demand he gets another title shot, with Orton turning heel and ducking Christian every chance he gets.
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DevilSoprano
Pee Wee's Plaything 
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Maybe you're giving them too much credit? MAYBE? Really?
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the goon
Sister Act
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quote:
Originally posted by DevilSoprano
Maybe you're giving them too much credit? MAYBE? Really?
That's right, sorry.
FUCK WWE. -0.0 WORST SHOW EVER.
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TheMakerSaidTaker
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Just more evidence that Christian is not a longterm "main event" guy in Vince's eyes... those catarac infested dustballs he calls eyes.
Kane the Undertaker
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OORick
You and what army? 
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quote:
Originally posted by the goon
quote:
Originally posted by DevilSoprano
Maybe you're giving them too much credit? MAYBE? Really?
That's right, sorry.
FUCK WWE. -0.0 WORST SHOW EVER.
I do think Christian will face Orton again, and he may well even claim to have the support of the Peeps. But even I think WWE's too ass-hatted
to tell that story in a way where Christian and the "vocal minority" are the babyfaces, and must deem your credit superfluous.
When it happens, Christian will be the heel, and Orton will get the cheers. They play won't be "the fans want Christian." The play will be
"Teddy said it's not about being fair, it's about giving the fans what they asked for." And they asked for Orton, so Christian will show
up as a whiney heel who decides "You stupid fans, you asked for Orton. You betrayed me. I didn't give you the explicit option of cheering for
me to get a week off before defending my title, and you sold me down the river. Screw you, and when I win my title back, I hope it's exactly
what you all don't want."
And if/when the fans don't go along with it? Hey, it's SmackDown, and they fuck with the audio track all the time on the taped show to
make it sound like the way they want you to think it sounded. Advantage: Orton.
Of course, this assumes Christian does get at least one rematch to keep his profile high past one all-around glorious Sunday Night For The Ages. If
the awesomeness of May 1 is undone so immediately and completely, then truly the terrorists have already won.
Rick
NOTE: Now that I've said that, watch Mark Henry be named #1 Contender in the very near future. You know, because he must be Teddy Long's
favorite after he turned against Team SD at the Draft and caused SD to lose John Cena. Surely, Teddy will be in a rush to reward such brand loyalty
and industriousness. Continuiwhatnow? Mark Henry is exactly what we AND Teddy Long want!
"He's from Mars, Officer; whiskey does not affect alien beings."
-- Venus Flytrap speaking on The Rick
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Teletheus
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This actually made me angry enough that I had to leave something on their Feedback page (https://secure.wwe.com/forms/help/show.php). I doubt it will
change anything -- hell, I doubt anyone will even read it -- but if they're actually talking about being "shocked" by the backlash, maybe
enough people complaining would convince them to go a different way with this.
I mean, let's face it, Edge is great (one of my favorites of all-time) but I don't know if he would have gotten as far as he did if it
weren't for the way the Matt Hardy/Lita thing shook out and made him a huge heel. Vince is an idiot sometimes, but if the fans are vocal enough
and loud enough for long enough, sometimes his desire for money and success outweighs his arrogance.
Sometimes.
Well, rarely. But it's happened.
Here's what I said:
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What on EARTH were you guys thinking when you made Christian drop the World Heavyweight Championship to Randy Orton? Christian is incredibly
talented, great on the mic, and most importantly, ENTERTAINING. I actually set my DVR to record SmackDown again just because I wanted to make sure
that I wouldn't miss an episode of his championship reign.
I have since removed SmackDown from my DVR schedule; I don't want to watch any show where Randy Orton is considered to be the "focus of the
brand." I don't hate seeing him because he's a heel or a "bad guy;" I hate seeing him because he's demonstrated himself to be an
idiot.
Honestly, I don't know which is worse: that you think Christian can't be the face of SmackDown, or that you think Randy Orton can.
Seriously, Randy Orton is illiterate and couldn't talk his way out of a paper bag. I'd rather watch TNA than watch a show where Orton is
champion (and believe me, I am not in a hurry to watch TNA).
I'm not entirely sure any of their writers will be capable of reading and comprehending that, but. Oh well.
"The majority is never right. Never, I tell you! That's one of these lies in society that no free and intelligent man can help rebelling
against. Who are the people that make up the biggest proportion of the population -- the intelligent ones or the fools? I think we can agree
it's the fools, no matter where you go in this world, it's the fools that form the overwhelming majority." -- Dr. Stockmann, An Enemy
of the People, Henrik Ibsen
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DevilSoprano
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Goon, WWE does suck and this is a prime example of it. TNA sucks too. So, get your WWE sk8er boi glasses off, and actually look at the product. What in
the blue fuck gives you any hope that Orton won't be champ for a long time or at worst be the focus of Smackdown. They couldn't even give
Christian a WEEK as champ and you think MAYBE WWE creative has an idea. Blinders man, seriously.
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