mooseheadjack
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quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
Wow. I'm pretty shocked by what I'm seeing here. It's not like Punk is going to be back to jobbing out in the mid-card tomorrow
night, people. He's still gonna be duking it out at the top, as is Cena. The only difference is the plot has thickened.
it didn't NEED to be thickened. They thickened it with crap in ADR and Nash. Punk/Cena/HHH was just fine. That was all you needed.
And you have a hell of a lot more confidence that Punk is not headed right back to the mid card than I do
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Qonas
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It amazes me to no end how incredibly short-sighted Vince, Trips, and company are as concerns the industry as a whole. For years now, nearly a decade,
the business has been in a huge decline. Ratings dying, fans drifting away in droves, any PPV not WM/SS/RR barely being worth putting on, and all this
before even mentioning the incredibly stale, dull, boring, utterly mediocre product itself.
Finally, after years of this drudgery, something finally crops up that ignites a spark. A simple contract matter turns into something much, much
bigger thanks to some real-life uncertainty, an undercurrent of revolt against Cena, and CM Punk's mastery of the mic. Pulling the trigger on
Punk winning the title at Money in the Bank and then actually running away was something completely, totally different. It was AWESOME. Must-see. It
did what wrestling used to do, matter. Non-fans knew what had happened. People wanted to talk about it. For all the talk of how the Attitude icons of
Austin/Rock/Trips/Foley needed to be replaced, and how the search was still on for the next torch-bearer, this simple little contract issue and
decision to let an incredible rogue-champion scenario occur built in an instant someone who could've been that next icon. CM Punk has the
skills, has the tools, and most certainly has the chops to have taken that torch. To drag the wrestling industry back up out of the mire. To be an
Austin/Rock megastar.
But, here comes that shortsightedness I mentioned. Summerslam's coming up. As is typical, there's been absolutely no build-up for the PPV
at all and it's supposed to be the second-biggest event of the year. So lo and behold, an opportunity arises to hotshot a main event
that'll shoot PPV buys through the roof. But to do so may jeopardize that very angle and that very megastar-in-the-making that could save the
industry as a whole.
Vince and H pull the trigger anyways. There's plenty of misgiving, but hey, it's the new CM Punk. After a couple weeks of
'meh', we got a taste of what he could do with that contract signing and things looked to be ok. Those screaming from the hills, "Just
let it play out!", looked to be in the driver seat. Surely things would change now; after all, Punk won at MitB and left with the title right?
We can see now that was wrong. So, so wrong. It's back to the usual way of doing things. Same old, same old. The Punk-Cena showdown was
hotshotted to provide Summerslam with a buys-boosting main event, and now ADR is hotshotted to be a Mexican champion for a tour of that country.
Shortsighted.
Let me repeat that; the hottest, biggest, most compelling and mainstream-interesting angle this company has had in a decade was buried and set aside
so that ADR could be champion for the Mexico tour.
SHORTSIGHTED.
Did having Punk-Cena as a main event help Summerslam? Absolutely. Will ADR as a champion help ticket sales for the Mexican tour? Maybe. But none of
that was worth killing off every bit of momentum from a storyline that, for a time, reinvigorated an industry and a fanbase. For some minuscule
numbers, everything that has been done to rescue wrestling from the status quo of the past decade was reversed. We're back to the usual way of
running things. It's about the merchandise and the ticket sales and the PPV buys; it is NOT about the wrestlers or wrestling.
Shortsighted.
And worse? Everyone in the wrestling industry seems to be defending the ending. Foley loves it. JR obviously loves it. Shane fucking insane castoff
loser Helms loves it. So maybe shortsightedness is just a part of being in the business? Maybe wrestlers don't think about the big picture, or
care about the industry as much as they say?
Make no mistake. A chance to be a compelling product once more was lost tonight. The money machine will keep churning, no question, but relevancy and
entertainment and interest was buried deep.
And hey, speaking of burial, guess we no longer need to keep "waiting to see" how the "Christian sucks and is a loser" storyline plays out, right?
Looks like we (and he) have gotten our answer.
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Devineman
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quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
Wow. I'm pretty shocked by what I'm seeing here. It's not like Punk is going to be back to jobbing out in the mid-card tomorrow
night, people. He's still gonna be duking it out at the top, as is Cena. The only difference is the plot has thickened.
Punk/Cena was sold on it' realistic promos. ADR pretending to be some Mexican royalty and doing his catchphrase shtick isn't helping.
Besides, MY problem is that the WWE still thinks it's acceptable to not pay off an angle at the 2nd biggest PPV of the year. In fact, not
paying off at any major PPV should be instant "FUCK THIS COMPANY" moments.
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TommyD420
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quote:
Originally posted by FistHiccups
Wow, you really don't rate Punk's promo ability. I think he'll have a hell of an entertaining speech lined up.
Nope. I like his promo ability a lot. There's just nothing else he can say other than "I got screwed."
Maybe he says it with inside-y stuff thrown in, but Moose hit on it. He's completely neutered now without the belt. There's nothing else
TO say. "I got screwed. I want my rematch."
Then HHH says "ok" or says "no, because I am the game and I want to play" or something.
This doesn't end well for Punk, in any possible scenario. I think not getting buried by the 1/2Kliq would be a victory in and of itself.
So he can say it funny, or non-Kayfabe or whatever, but "I got screwed" is all he has to offer to the discussion.
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gobbledygooker
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He's still the hottest thing they have right now and Vince knows that. He's too good of a businessman to mute their hottest commodity.
I'm sensing a three-way battle for the title coming up in the next month and who knows from there.
Anyone who lets their hair grow below their ears to where I can't see their ears means they don't wash. If they don't wash, they
stink, and if they stink, I don't want the son-of-a-bitch around me.
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Devineman
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A good example is this:
If you had Austin and Rock going at each other, with HHH as referee, would you drop the belt to Test?
Qonas, that's an excellent post by the way that sums it up perfectly
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mooseheadjack
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but again, why? I could see adding ADR if he added even the slightest bit to this feud, but he doesn't. He doesn't bring a single thing
to the table to make this feud even the slightest bit more interesting. You had the perfect dynamic in HHH/Cena/Punk, and they shit on that so ADR
could get his run. Just stupid booking.
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snelson66
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quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
He's still the hottest thing they have right now and Vince knows that. He's too good of a businessman to mute their hottest commodity.
I'm sensing a three-way battle for the title coming up in the next month and who knows from there.
That may be. But that means one of those three is still Alberto Del fucking Rio. Who's only claim to fame is waving his hands around like
they're on fire. All because the WWE is going to Mexico. Call me disinterested.
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TommyD420
Man of a Thousand Holds
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quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
I'm sensing a three-way battle for the title coming up in the next month
Cena wins. I just saved you $50. You're welcome.
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cardscott5
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quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
Wow. I'm pretty shocked by what I'm seeing here.
Why? Some people think they botched an angle they really liked terribly. Just because you or I or Rick or someone else doesn't feel the same
doesn't mean they aren't justified in their belief. I was underwhelmed by the finish of the match. I don't think Nash will fight,
let alone fight HHH. If I did, maybe I would be more on that side of things.
To the Sting-Hogan-Nash-HHH point, people are hypocrites. The last two WWE title matches saw the owner run in and the COO as the special ref. That
happened at the last two TNA ppv title matches as well, when Bischoff cost Sting the match to Anderson, and Hogan ran in on this one. I would say the
difference is that the TNA run ins were fucking lame as hell and the WWE ones served a purpose, while being somewhat lame in a way. MITB ended with
Vince being fired so that served a purpose. Tonight, who knows? But to expect TNA to catch a break, let alone on this site where it's not very
pro TNA to begin with, is expecting too much.
Plus, the TNA title matches weren't as good as the two WWE title matches. If I make this into some sort of TNA v WWE argument at some point,
I'm sorry. I'll just stay positive no one pays attention to my comments.
[Edited on 8-15-2011 by cardscott5]
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cromartie
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quote:
Originally posted by FistHiccups
quote:
Originally posted by cromartie
This is a complete fucking FAIL. They managed to piss away three shades of grey storylines in one night, ruining the best buzz they've had in a
decade for....Alberto Del Rio, Kevin Nash, and Randy Orton title reign #38.
Well, it was a fun month. Back to the recaps, then.
Your favourites losing = pissing away storylines? Seems like it's just sour grapes. Personally, I can't wait for Punk's reaction on
Raw.
Don't be an idiot. I'm not 12. I expected them both to lose.
The case has been made succinctly, repeatedly on here that Del Rio is a gigantic vortex of apathy and that putting the belt on him now at the expense
of the hottest and, frankly, most interesting angle they fed has had for at least the last decade would be incredibly asinine.
And Orton is an automatic channel changer for me. Sorry. He doesn't interest me as either a speaker or a performer. That entire storyline has
been written and booked poorly, taking a sympathy face and turning him into a poorly written, chickenshit heel.
And, as has also been pointed out repeatedly, they are taking what could be something interesting with Beth and Natalya and writing it poorly. K2
retaining tonight doesn't help that.
All three storylines could be great. The Fed just tossed gas all over them and lit them on fire, killing my interest in the process. There are other
people making far better cases for this in this thread than I, specifically Qoonas. That observation, which is brilliant, should be taken to heart.
[Edited on 8-15-2011 by cromartie]
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Chris Is Good517
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quote:
Originally posted by C.MontgomeryPunk
Some folks might hate the ending, but I love it for the story possibilities it opens up.
Pretty much this for me, too.
Look, I didn't watch the PPV tonight so I can't really comment except on what I've heard, but I think this is far from WWE
"squandering their hottest angle in years". In 24 hours when we see how it plays out, sure, if Raw sucks than I won't be upset with the usual
crowd of implacable folks here doing their usual schtick (and let's face it, some of you guys have been waiting for the bottom to fall out since
MitB went off the air instead of enjoying the last month of fairly entertaining TV), but can you give it 24 fucking hours to see what they have up
their sleeves? They've thrown a lot of surprising curve balls at us for the last seven weeks, have they not earned the benefit of the doubt for
one night?
That said, Del Rio sucks, but I'd rather see him walk out with the belt than Cena. Had Cena won, it'd just be a hard reset to the status
quo. Had Punk won... well, it would've just been a matter of time until Cena got it back or Del Rio cashed in on him (and you KNEW that this was
inevitable), and nobody would have really been happy anyway. At least now it's somewhat harder to predict where they go next.
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FistHiccups
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quote:
Originally posted by Qonas
The Punk-Cena showdown was hotshotted to provide Summerslam with a buys-boosting main event, and now ADR is hotshotted to be a Mexican champion for
a tour of that country.
Where's your evidence coming from that that's the reasoning? Seems to me the ending is way more about furthering the Punk/HHH/Cena
story than anything to do with a Mexican tour.
quote:
Shortsighted.
"CM Punk lost tonight therefore this is the worst thing ever, everything sucks" is hardly thinking long-term, either. It's a knee-jerk
reaction.
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Qonas
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It's not CM Punk losing. It's the whole storyline in and of itself being sidelined and crushed, because they needed a Mexican champion for
an upcoming tour.
quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
He's still the hottest thing they have right now and Vince knows that. He's too good of a businessman to mute their hottest
commodity. I'm sensing a three-way battle for the title coming up in the next month and who knows from there.
Being able to have a company make buttloads of money without lifting a finger isn't the mark of a skilled businessman. It's just
the mark of somebody in charge of a printing machine.
And for those who think people hate it because of Del Rio, remember I like the guy. Defended him and his useage, and would have absolutely no problem
with him as champion.
But not at the expense of an industry-changing, once-in-a-generation angle.
[Edited on 8-15-2011 by Qonas]
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happy_buddha
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You're all blaming the wrong party. You thought you were getting answers, but then Roddy Piper changed the questions.
That bastard ...
What do Sherri Martel and George Clooney have in common?
They both got screwed by Stacy Keibler.
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dtown7777
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I'm going against popular opinion here tonight but I enjoyed the show. Actually that's not entirely accurate, I enjoyed the two title
matches, the other matches were okay at best. That's all that matters to me though, is that things finish strong. I can't stand Randy
Orton like most here but that was a damn entertaining match. The Punk match was solid, if not amazing, but the ending was pretty damn interesting. I
know alot of people here are saying that it was horrible, but the fact is most, if not all of you, will be tuning in tomorrow night to see what
happens next. That's all that matters, love or hate it.
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TommyD420
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
They've thrown a lot of surprising curve balls at us for the last seven weeks, have they not earned the benefit of the doubt for one
night?
Sure, if you're willing to suspend belief and live in a dream-world where 7 weeks of goodwill outweigh 10 years of suck after terrible after
awful after suck after suck.
Then you see something that falls into "10 years of suck" land, and you're supposed to pretend THAT didn't happen because of 7 weeks of
goodwill.
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GordusMaximus
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Wow. Ok... I get that kevin Nash is old. No one wants to see him wrestle. I get that. Hell, I turned down an Indy card next weekend in joliet, il that
headlines Nash. But, for him to randomly show up here does one thing really well. It raises questions. As much as moose and dev and anyone else want
to trash it, I would suggest doing what cm punk said on simmons' podcast. Wait. Let's see where this goes, before its the end of wrestling
as we know it. I don't think this was a bad show at all. If you thought summerslam was the end of punk/cena, then I think you're crazy.
This story/feud is going to go until wrestlemania. It may mold into hhh/punk, or something else. But its not gonna end and turn into adr/cena starting
tomorrow. Nash coming back might lead to punk and hunter at wm. Punk can think hhh was the one bringing back his buddies. They then feud, maybe
leading to hhh admitting he can't deal with a "skinny fat" guy like punk being champ. Or kevin Nash hates all gentiles. It could be anything.
But screaming to the high heavens that wwe ruined this angle is premature to a degree I can barely fathom.
And, I liked the show. Randy had to win after edges little speech. I hate Rey, I hate his truffle shuffle frog splash. But, heading into the title
match, he's gotta win or look strong. Sheamus was big over. And I liked that finish. Henry sucks at all things, but that was well booked.
Bryan/barrett was solid. Way too many commercials and filler garbage. I would of been happier with a Dolph/riley or ic title match over ceelo and
filler. But, ceelo wasn't shit on, which is a big thing at a ppv for a music act.
I think it was a good show. I dislike adr, and I think he shouldn't be close to the title. But I also love the story options that open up here.
And I have no idea what's next. And neither do any of you. And really, isn't that what we want as fans?
I remember Chris Benoit.
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mooseheadjack
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It's Kevin Nash. In 2011. He has as much business being in the ring at this point as Hogan or Sting, which is, none at all.
And the last fucking thing I want to see is a HHH/Punk feud where HHH wrestles. It will suck. I can pretty much guarantee that.
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JMD
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I actually wanted Punk to lose - I don't think the story had anywhere left to go if he beat Cena again - but this was a tremendously poor way to
go about it, mostly for the reasons Divineman put forward. If this happens on Raw, for free, I'm okay with it - but you can't ask people
to pay money on the promise of seeing which of two really compelling characters will get what they want, and then instead give that thing to a boring
third character who was only incidentally involved in the story and his aging, semi-crippled bodyguard (who admittedly has loads of charisma).
And to answer CiG, no, the WWE hasn't done enough yet to earn trust that they will end a hot angle well. They are a weak hitting middle
infielder with 10 years of .230, no walks and no power who had an awesome month or two and then went into a slump. I'm going to see the slump as
regression back to his real level of talent, not a bump in the road, because the odds are about 99.99% that's what it is. I can only speak for
myself but I had basically stopped watching Raw. Some weeks, I forgot it was even on. This angle had me back and watching, even when the middle of
shows tended to bore me, but I don't plan to watch now because I find my free time valuable and I don't think I'd enjoy the show
this week. Not really interested in watching a Kliq reunion in 2011.
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Flash
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I thought this was a pretty good PPV over all.
* Lot's of quick action in a throwaway opening. Between his opening promo and the Jimmy Hart stuff Truth continues to steal the shows on the
mic'. Fun match, but I would have liked to have seen it used as a platform to have set something up in the future.
* I expected the Sheamus kind of non-finish as they needed to "protect" both guys. Solid if unspectacular, but with a nice finish.
* I was blown away by the offense and enthusiasm that KK brought in addition to the fact that the Diva's probably got 10+ minutes to work with.
I think I would've shifted the belt over to Beth, but for a diva's match that was a pretty holy shit finish that didn't feel flukey,
just more of a pure upset. Long term though it makes Beth look beatable, so it kind of shoots the mega powers feel if that's where they go..
still no other real complaints I was pretty suprised and entertained.
* DB and Barrett did exactly what it needed to for both guys and then some. Awesome match that made both look more than competent. This one's
got some legs to go for another month or two if booked right, and I'm pretty happy about that.
* The Edge promo was pretty good, yet despite it I still kind of expected him to help Christian for the finish. Absolutely solid match where both guys
looked good. I think i would've liked to have seen Orton eat one of the three table spots as he certainly looked the more dominant throughout
the match, but Christian got to spit in his face again so I guess that's a win.
Not sure what you do with Christian now. I seriously think you have to keep him and Orton away from one another now. Had Christian not spit in
Orton's face again I'd have said you go take Christian back to being a face as he earned a lot of respect in this match, but the spitting
was such a dick thing that he's got to stay a heel because of it. Depending on if you want to keep him in the main event scene he could use a
quick and dominant rehab feud against someone... I would say if their going to put Barrett in there against RKO then DB would be a great fit, except I
kinda think both guys need the win out of that one, so I'll suggest Justin Gabriel instead. Its a break out feud so he does't need the
win, just a chance to showcase himself in a solo role.
* The main event....
I don't know what to think of this one yet, so I'm taking a wait and see approach. Cena vs Punk was pretty solid. Maybe not as good as
last month, but a great emphasis on mat wrestling with a few pretty good spots. HHH's save from a double DQ was a nice bit, but the finish came
off pretty flat because it felt like everyone was just standing around waiting for what would come next.
Nash being at the top and possibly in a match does make me nervous, as I don't know if the guy could carry or really belongs there. It was a
fantastic suprise and I think he'll say something to the effect to he was sick of seeing Punk disrespect his buddy HHH who because he's
COO he can't do anything... I'll wait and see how this pans out, but in the mean time very cool moment sold well by everyone that furthers
the idea of HHH vs Punk via a proxy.
ADR winning... I like ADR and think he's got a tonne of potential with a great look, but his character is completely flat and boring. The
entrance and "destiny" crap is tiresome, so I can't say I'm enthusiastic about his walking out the champ. I don't have a problem
with how Punk was beat as he was sufficient protected, but I do have a hard time getting behind ADR as champ.
I will say that when I left the theatre I saw the PPV at I was dreading an ADR vs Rey feud as I think its pretty played out, but reading Rick's
thoughts on it being more a chance to cement ADR by having him put Rey out tomorrow night I'm on board with it, provided its a one and done
tomorrow night and not the return of the feud that wouldn't die.
Overall; 4.0/5.0
Very solid show, and i think the main event finishes will be better judged once we see how they roll out the next round of stories. We get more
destiny speeches and an ADR vs Rey feud for the next few months, Cena whining, and Nash burying Punk and it'll go down as one of the worst
finishes of all time (hyperbole). They take us on a few more turns, like Punk calling for his rematch clause after Rey takes ADR to the limit and he
wins his title back tomorrow night... that I'd be on board with.
Either way, tonight has set the table for some interesting possibilities story wise.
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Chris Is Good517
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quote:
Originally posted by TommyD420
Sure, if you're willing to suspend belief and live in a dream-world where 7 weeks of goodwill outweigh 10 years of suck after terrible after
awful after suck after suck.
Then you see something that falls into "10 years of suck" land, and you're supposed to pretend THAT didn't happen because of 7 weeks of
goodwill.
That's a fair point, but I'm going to see the glass as half full and say after 10 years of suck, 7 good weeks is a sign that they're
trying, which is more than we could say for them until 7 weeks ago. I'm not ready to throw up my arms and resign myself to 10 more years
of suck just because of one misstep (or, probably more appropriately, one thing that I don't like).
It's kinda like being a Pirates fan right now. They had their first good half of a season in almost 20 years this year, and now they've
collapsed again. Should I just say "same old Pirates" after all that positive progress, or do I chalk it up to growing pains and keep hoping that
next season will be more of the first half of this season? I know it isn't the best analogy but I hope I made my point.
Gee, I wish I was still alive- LuckyLopez R.I.P.
Bachmann: "I haven't had a gaffe... when it comes to the best Republican who take
on Barack Obama and not have any clunker in my record to be able to take him on, it's me."
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dtown7777
Turd Generation Superstar
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The bar I was at went crazy for ADR winning the title. Then again I'm in Arizona and I think we have some ADR fans here for obvious reasons.
Not going to lie though, I liked it too, and those obvious reasons don't apply to me.
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GordusMaximus
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Moose. Hunter is gonna wrestle again. I'm sure of it. If it's at wm and jobbing to cm punk, I'm just fine with that.
I remember Chris Benoit.
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Sportsguy
Showstopper
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6 weeks, 6 FUCKING WEEKS to build up the hottest angle since the invasion and then proceed to fuck it up nearly as much as they did that. I'm in
fucking awe of this company and it's levels of stupidity. Fuck Raw, as much as I love chatting with you all Monday nights, I'm done for a
long goddamn time.
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