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posted on 3-30-2016 at 02:29 AM Edit Post
I don't think too many here are complaining about Reigns' physicality or in-ring performance. I don't think anyone here even said something silly like Roman doesn't bring it during a big match. It's the booking, his poor promos, and now whiny-sounding interviews that have wrecked him. At this stage he could be HBK x Kurt Angle x RVD x Rey Mysterio and it wouldn't make a difference. They tried with him the same thing they did with the Cena push. But Roman doesn't have the inherent likability of Cena that eventually made all but the worst of the haters eventually warm up to the guy. Even the haters should have been cheering that swan dive over the top rope. Anyone else and they probably would have cheered, even in a tough town like NYC. Shows how poisoned the ground is now for the poor doofus that silence from the crowd would have been preferable.

* also the numbnuts apparently genuinely believed Eva Marie was going to get a huge face pop from the crowd, and that they thought the heat in NXT was just from a few smarks in their regular audience there

[Edited on 3/30/2016 by Paddlefoot]





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 03:04 AM Edit Post
I mean, I don't know if the interview sounded whiny. I think it would be disingenuous for him to pretend to like people who are booing him - if I were him, I'd be annoyed as fuck.

I, personally, have just come down on the 'don't care' side. I don't hate Roman, but he's not my favorite. To me, he's just part of the show (and I know it's the main event and the big belt and the 'face of the company' but I used to be a WCW fan and the main events there were often the drizzling shit - Roman and HHH will at least put on a good match, even if the crowd rejects it). I still have lots of guys I love in the company and, once Reigns has had his turn, others will roll around.

He doesn't get under my skin the way he seems to with other people (or his booking does or his push or whatever it is). I think that's always been the mystery to me. Not that someone couldn't like Roman - everyone's got different taste. But the sheer bile and anger that seems to be directed at him and his angles has always seemed so...disproportionate. Hyperbolic to the point of parody at times. It's a weird, temper-tantrum reaction. I feel like I'm looking at my three year old sometimes and just going 'Why are you crying?!? What is wrong?!?" (Note: this is fifty percent of parenting a three year old, which is possibly why I have such little patience for it here).

[Edited on 3-30-2016 by GodEatGod]





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 03:24 AM Edit Post
I find it funny that the last page full of Reigns comments are the same ones I say to Eagles fans about Sam Bradford.

For what it's worth Roman > Sam





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 03:24 AM Edit Post
I don't know what else is left to say about Reigns that hasn't already been said numerous times over the time period since November 2014. There's a presence about him, it's not being utilizing properly, and here we are a little over a year later having the same arguments about him because the audience as a whole has the same reaction of "annoyance followed by indifference" towards him. If there was ever a situation that screamed "Do something different," it's Roman Reigns. A heel turn might fix him, but given that John Cena seems to slowly be realizing why it is that the Rock left for Hollywood (seriously, I think Cena's been in everything since he disappeared), it's never going to happen.

Ladies and royberto love him. Everyone else is apathetic. The best we can do as a whole is to let that apathy prevail and just stop talking about him, because if the IWC goes silent towards him, WWE can't call him controversial. But the IWC will never unite in anything ever, so continue with the five paragraph theses on why Reigns isn't over.





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 05:41 AM Edit Post
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I don't know what else is left to say about Reigns that hasn't already been said numerous times over the time period since November 2014.



There was a time when Streak Talk was the most annoying thing on the boards. It obviously came up once every year, but it pretty much popped up repeatedly throughout the year like a case of herpes.

Reigns Talk is the new Streak Talk. It's the same bitching. The same anti-bitching. But the same everything just repeated all over the place.

Streak talk got it's own thread. That way people who wanted to participate could go in and requote the same fucking post they made the last time they posted about it. And people who wanted to avoid it could.


Now, Reigns Talk has it's own thread. Take it there and STFU about it everywhere else. Thank you for your participation.

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posted on 3-30-2016 at 01:22 PM Edit Post
Thanks Tex! Almost a perfect solution. Calling it "reigns talk" makes it a little to rational. Perhaps "wad your panties here" would help folks find it easier.







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posted on 3-30-2016 at 03:15 PM Edit Post
Per Cageside Seats...

*Apparently there will be a big debut or a big return at WrestleMania 32, and possibly both.

My initial thoughts went straight to Balor/BulletClub/BalorClub/NerfGun Club (for the kids & Reigns fans) &/or Rollins.

Even if Rollins isn't ready for in-ring action, I think he could pull of a Sting circa 97 role where he shows up every so often just to fuck with Reigns that leads to a big match a SummerSlam.





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 03:23 PM Edit Post
Could be Bayley if Ass-ka* beats her at the NXT event on Saturday night.

* in terms of proper pronunciation there is no silent 'u' here, it's Asuka you Creative dum-dums, not Ass-ka; A-soo-ka, five letters only, so simple even someone who's wrongly been taught over their entire life and by your abysmal education system to speak in (ugh) American instead of in proper English should be able to say it properly





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 04:03 PM Edit Post
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Originally posted by Paddlefoot
* in terms of proper pronunciation there is no silent 'u' here, it's Asuka you Creative dum-dums, not Ass-ka; A-soo-ka, five letters only, so simple even someone who's wrongly been taught over their entire life and by your abysmal education system to speak in (ugh) American instead of in proper English should be able to say it properly

You know, I was originally on the same page as you. I heard them pronouncing it "ahs-ka" and was wondering why it was a thing. I searched a little and a lot of websites have the pronunciation of Asuka being "ahs-ka" as well. And one of the things that made sense to me was someone relating it to (The Great) Sasuke. It's not "suh-zoo-kee" it's "sahs-kay." However, I fully admit to having zero knowledge of the Japanese language or how to pronounce their letters.

And on the same topic, I've seen that Shinsuke (Nakamura) is pronounced "shins-kay."

Anyone here know a definitive answer on the pronunciation?





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 04:25 PM Edit Post
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Originally posted by MatteYou know, I was originally on the same page as you. I heard them pronouncing it "ahs-ka" and was wondering why it was a thing. I searched a little and a lot of websites have the pronunciation of Asuka being "ahs-ka" as well. And one of the things that made sense to me was someone relating it to (The Great) Sasuke. It's not "suh-zoo-kee" it's "sahs-kay." However, I fully admit to having zero knowledge of the Japanese language or how to pronounce their letters.

And on the same topic, I've seen that Shinsuke (Nakamura) is pronounced "shins-kay."

Anyone here know a definitive answer on the pronunciation?


I just want to hear Booker T call one of her matches.

Axe-kah.

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posted on 3-30-2016 at 05:15 PM Edit Post
I've settled into acceptance that, yeah, I probably never will be satisfied any more. If it means I start watching less of this stuff for the sake of it meaning more when I do watch, then that might be for the best. There's an oversaturation of wrestling nowadays and I'm at the point where I've oversaturated myself by trying to watch it all.





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 05:15 PM Edit Post
There is a "u" that is spoken there, but it's very quick, and sometimes sounds like it's not there. "Ah-su-ka", the accent is on the "Ah", the "su" is spoken very quickly. Just like the example above "Sah-su-ke", the "su" is spoken quickly, and sometimes, with an English speaker, it's sounds more like (or is easier to say it) without the quick "u" because we that pronunciation is so uncommon in English.
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 05:35 PM Edit Post
Golly.




I know they want to maintain kayfabe but hanging out with this guy is a bit too much. Even The Authority isn't that evil.





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 05:39 PM Edit Post
Well, if it was this guy maybe all WWE's problems would be solved:







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posted on 3-30-2016 at 05:46 PM Edit Post
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even someone who's wrongly been taught over their entire life and by your abysmal education system to speak in (ugh) American instead of in proper English should be able to say it properly


I'm only going to assume you're from the UK, but man alive if being an expat hasn't let me know something about you guys....We rarely, if ever, take shots at you and how you speak your dialect, but dammit if you all don't find every chance in life to rag on how we speak ours.

It's bollocks, mate.

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posted on 3-30-2016 at 05:53 PM Edit Post
Canada, man, hence the respect for the Queen's English, eh.

It's Favre, goddammit, not Far-vv. Fav-ray. Fav-fucking-ray. Say it the way it's spelled, dum-dums.





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 05:54 PM Edit Post
Yeah, it's funny. I travel a lot and Americans have a terrible reputation for being arrogant and obnoxious, but the big dickheads I have met have been from Europe. Condescending, effeminate pricks.





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 06:05 PM Edit Post
Canadians are near the top of the list for bad drunken behaviour on airliners. I think we're only slightly behind black American women in terms of sheer obnoxiousness whilst way up high in the air.





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 06:06 PM Edit Post
Fair enough, Pads. I was wrong and presumptuous. Also agree with you about the Favre thing. I always questioned that as a child while watching football. But hey, if the family has pronounced his name like that, then that's how they damn-well say it.

Still though, if you're traveling through Europe and come across some UK natives, watch the fuck out. They love picking fights, both verbally and physically, with Americans, and it generally starts because of their "need" to rag on us for stupid shit like how we say "sidewalk" instead of "pavement".

Sorry, wrong thread to have that rant in, but man, that comment from Pad set off my (wrongfully assuming) disdain for how often my early days in Harbin at the bars were always derailed by some dickhead European starting shit because of how I, as an American, speak English.

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posted on 3-30-2016 at 06:12 PM Edit Post
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I know they want to maintain kayfabe but hanging out with this guy is a bit too much. Even The Authority isn't that evil.



Did HHH come out of the bathroom wearing Kissinger's glasses, that he found in the toilet?





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 06:57 PM Edit Post
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 07:21 PM Edit Post
The British are a funny bunch. Most of my friends were British when I lived in Prague, and my experience with them is like this: Cool British people are probably the coolest motherfuckers on the planet. They love to drink and have a good time, and they're fucking hilarious (seriously, British humor is the best). The problem is that they aren't all like that. The posh ones are just begging for an asskicking, and they argue in this annoying, passive-aggressive way that makes them seem like they don't believe their own shit. Then there's the hooligans, who are begging to kick your ass. Imagine a bunch of Raiders fans, but with worse attitudes.

The continent was a little different in my experience. They can be real assholes, and they often make the assumption that you're a dumb American who doesn't know anything. For the most part, though, that's true, because most of their experience with Americans is exactly like that, and their media is just as insular as ours when it comes to showing different cultures. The trick is to do just some research and learn about where you're going. Knowing even surface-level information about where you are will usually make them shut up, and they might even buy you a beer. Logical responses usually worked well for me, whereas in America, a logical response might get me labelled as a smarty-socialist-murca-hating liberal. Just knowing the freaking capitols to European countries gets your foot in the door, which is ridiculous on one hand, and quite telling on the other.

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posted on 3-30-2016 at 09:24 PM Edit Post
Just saw on 411 that the WWE is getting rid of the butterfly belt, and will debut a legit-looking title for the women right after Mania. About fucking time.





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posted on 3-30-2016 at 10:22 PM Edit Post
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Well, if it was this guy maybe all WWE's problems would be solved:




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posted on 3-30-2016 at 10:37 PM Edit Post
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Just saw on 411 that the WWE is getting rid of the butterfly belt, and will debut a legit-looking title for the women right after Mania. About fucking time.

I would venture to say that that belt will eventually end up in the hands of one or both of the Bella Twins. They more than anyone represented the "Divas Era". StepHHH will give them that belt, just like Flair gave HHH the original Big Gold Belt.





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