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Author: Subject: OOfficial Discussion Thread for: RAW (February 8, 2016)
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posted on 2-9-2016 at 02:22 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Except it's not. We came to grips with the fact that this was Edge's decision and doctors across the board agreed with the decision. This is not across the board with DB's concussions. Most are saying he is good and whenever he is out of his contract, he is going somewhere else. It's that sliminess that is low even for Vince.


Okay, and until we hear things from Daniel's mouth, how about you stop assuming?

Your premise rests on a very VERY tenuous assumption at the moment. I understand your case, but the cards are not on the table yet. They might not -ever- be.

ETA: If he comes out, and says that "As a result of MULTIPLE consultations with a VARIETY doctors, I've decided to retire from ALL wrestling competitions for the rest of my life", will you give me one million internet dollars? Or will you keep screaming about how it's a conspiracy, and Daniel's saying what the WWE wants him to say because otherwise Brie will get 'screwed' somehow by the bookers?

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posted on 2-9-2016 at 02:33 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Except it's not. We came to grips with the fact that this was Edge's decision and doctors across the board agreed with the decision. This is not across the board with DB's concussions. Most are saying he is good and whenever he is out of his contract, he is going somewhere else. It's that sliminess that is low even for Vince.



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posted on 2-9-2016 at 02:42 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Did you use the FRINKIAC for that?

Also, Bo Dallas has lasted a LOT longer than I thought he would, and just keeps getting more and more Bo-er each week.

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Nothing with the reports equate to "DB agrees with widespread doctors saying he's not good to wrestle anymore." The very last report that came out said DB wanted out of his contract. He doesn't want a commissioner or announcer role, he wants to fight. If he gets this platform to announce he's just done with WWE but will wrestle again, then actually kudos to Vince for eating some humble pie for the sake of his best performer in the past 5 years.

I just don't foresee that happening.

Like I said, this just has potential to be the best story they've done in a long long time, and with a need for a huge draw in Dallas, and you'd have a new mega heel for whoever interrupts this ordeal.

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Nothing with the reports equate to "DB agrees with widespread doctors saying he's not good to wrestle anymore." The very last report that came out said DB wanted out of his contract. He doesn't want a commissioner or announcer role, he wants to fight. If he gets this platform to announce he's just done with WWE but will wrestle again, then actually kudos to Vince for eating some humble pie for the sake of his best performer in the past 5 years.

I just don't foresee that happening.

Like I said, this just has potential to be the best story they've done in a long long time, and with a need for a huge draw in Dallas, and you'd have a new mega heel for whoever interrupts this ordeal.

You're putting a lot of weight in dirtsheets & RUMORS.

And turning it into fact & theory.

I know what case you're making, because it's been made for weeks now. What =my= point is, is that there is New Information of some kind that you & I & MANY MANY PEOPLE are not privy to, thus this sudden "retirement". I hope it's not a retirement, but I also hope that Daniel's not dumb enough to go to Japan's STRONGSTYLE! based wrestling promotions to prove some silly point about how his neck is okay and oops now he's paralyzed.

Instead of advancing conspiracy theory, why not just wait until The Man Himself speaks on the matter? Patience, grasshopper.

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Did you use the FRINKIAC for that?



Wanted to, but it doesn't embed correctly here and I'm lazy.

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Nothing with the reports equate to "DB agrees with widespread doctors saying he's not good to wrestle anymore." The very last report that came out said DB wanted out of his contract. He doesn't want a commissioner or announcer role, he wants to fight. If he gets this platform to announce he's just done with WWE but will wrestle again, then actually kudos to Vince for eating some humble pie for the sake of his best performer in the past 5 years.



The rumors section is named the rumors section for a reason.

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The last piece of news we got was actually Daniel Bryan announcing his retirement on twitter.

Yes, it could be a work. But HE said this. So it would be odd for him to use that wording. Unless he is going to come out and be all "I'm retiring from my injury, I worked you all!", this all seems pretty definitive. Also that kind of things make sense for a heel(Like when Henry did it to superb effect), but it seems prickish for Daniel Bryan the megaface to tug at the heartstrings with video packages only to swerve us.

But yeah, 10% chance it's a work still. The fact that he's closing the show makes me think...something might happen? But I really think this is the end of the road.

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It would be the greatest swerve of all time, up there with Hogan joining the Outsiders. Vince's revenge on TMZ for wrecking the Rusev/Summer/Ziggles/Lana storyline with the wedding info? Be kind of neat because most of the time TMZ are pure scum. Unfortunately there's no reason to ever think that Vince would be capable of that kind of creative fuckery ever again. He hasn't aged well, and that applies as much to his brain as it does to his receding chin and neck wattles. Bukkake Bukky Wormtongue constantly whispering in his ear about "what makes good TV these days" doesn't help the situation out very much either.

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I didn't know the other doctor reports were only rumors. That sounded pretty serious to me. That certainly seems like a factual part of all this. If there is new info, sure, that could be hidden. But that doesn't jibe with DB wanting out to keep wrestling. If he really was done, he wouldn't care about getting out of his contract to go somewhere else.

I'm not worried about DB getting paralyzed....if anyone was going to die in the ring, it was gonna be Kurt Angle and he's still doing just fine.

And why would Daniel Bryan full-blown retire? Can't it be logical to work on DB with a new part time schedule at worst? Like Lesnar. Still have high quality matches with plenty of time to recover. Seems like a major waste to just have him go away from the ring forever.

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Dead (heh, typo.) is gonna... oops.

Dean is gonna get Alt-F4'd here in a minute, if he ain't careful.

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I didn't know the other doctor reports were only rumors. That sounded pretty serious to me. That certainly seems like a factual part of all this. If there is new info, sure, that could be hidden. But that doesn't jibe with DB wanting out to keep wrestling. If he really was done, he wouldn't care about getting out of his contract to go somewhere else.

I'm not worried about DB getting paralyzed....if anyone was going to die in the ring, it was gonna be Kurt Angle and he's still doing just fine.



This is like saying 1 +1 = Apple. They're two entirely different people.

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I didn't know the other doctor reports were only rumors. That sounded pretty serious to me. That certainly seems like a factual part of all this. If there is new info, sure, that could be hidden. But that doesn't jibe with DB wanting out to keep wrestling. If he really was done, he wouldn't care about getting out of his contract to go somewhere else.

I'm not worried about DB getting paralyzed....if anyone was going to die in the ring, it was gonna be Kurt Angle and he's still doing just fine.

And why would Daniel Bryan full-blown retire? Can't it be logical to work on DB with a new part time schedule at worst? Like Lesnar. Still have high quality matches with plenty of time to recover. Seems like a major waste to just have him go away from the ring forever.
So your theory was based on statements you didn't bother to find out about ("i didn't know those were rumors") and because you'd rather see him in the ring than him be happy outside of it? You're not the kind of fan I'd want to have, if I were a wrestler. Sadly, all too often it seems that we on the internet forget that these are PEOPLE doing DANGEROUS ACROBATIC STUNT-THINGS where one person can instantly end up in a wheelchair for life, even with no prior injury (Shout out to Droz!).. If he's made the choice to step away, =irrespective= of the reason, who are you to say "it's a waste"?

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Back to stuff and thangs, Coral. That evil little smile Brock gave when the fans gave him the Yes! chant after the threw the table at Reigns was hilarious, one of those small spontaneous effects that makes a good segment into a great one.





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They're selling Ambrose-Brock as the #2 WM match better than they can ever sell Brock-Wyatt at this point. I hope they abort.
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The storyline wouldn't be DB swerving the fans. The story is that DB was going to announce his retirement but superstar XYZ goads him into a reflection of his career truly being over, perhaps attacking DB and now he reconsiders but the doctors won't clear him to return.

This would have be an incredibly ideal spot for Seth Rollins, presuming he stayed heel. An ever greater spot for the long awaited Cena heel turn. Sadly itd at best be a Sheamus or Del Rio.

Vince doesn't often have his finger on what fans want, but he's bent before on the road to Wrestlemania. He's got to realize that Reigns/HHH and Brock/Bray are not two programs to carry WM.

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"I didn't think those were rumors" is sarcasm.
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The storyline wouldn't be DB swerving the fans. The story is that DB was going to announce his retirement but superstar XYZ goads him into a reflection of his career truly being over, perhaps attacking DB and now he reconsiders but the doctors won't clear him to return.

This would have be an incredibly ideal spot for Seth Rollins, presuming he stayed heel. An ever greater spot for the long awaited Cena heel turn. Sadly itd at best be a Sheamus or Del Rio.

Vince doesn't often have his finger on what fans want, but he's bent before on the road to Wrestlemania. He's got to realize that Reigns/HHH and Brock/Bray are not two programs to carry WM.


You understand that literally every guy you named as an opponent for Daniel Bryan is injured, including Daniel Bryan. This is the worst impression of "fan blames Vince McMahon for things that are impossible for him to control" theatre.

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Again, I said this would have been the ideal spot for Rollins. Rollins is out till June at best. Or is that just a rumor too?

I wouldn't count Cena out of WM because Cena....but that'd need more physical interaction. Those are not actual possibilities people. Cmon.

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You understand that literally every guy you named as an opponent for Daniel Bryan is injured, including Daniel Bryan. This is the worst impression of "fan blames Vince McMahon for things that are impossible for him to control" theatre.
I can't honestly say if we normally do or don't agree on things, but in this case I think we're singing from the same sheet music.

I really REALLY enjoyed the hell out of "Dean Ambrose Gets BORKED!"

He's doing "Brian Pillman" better than anybody, and possibly better than Flyin' Brian himself?

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The storyline wouldn't be DB swerving the fans. The story is that DB was going to announce his retirement but superstar XYZ goads him into a reflection of his career truly being over, perhaps attacking DB and now he reconsiders but the doctors won't clear him to return.

This would have be an incredibly ideal spot for Seth Rollins, presuming he stayed heel. An ever greater spot for the long awaited Cena heel turn. Sadly itd at best be a Sheamus or Del Rio.


If Kevin Owens' theme song were to hit in the middle of Daniel Bryan's retirement speech I might poop all over of the places. Just, a torrential outpouring of fecal matter propelled by nothing but pure joy as I'm flung around my living room like a live unmanned fire hose just RUINING furniture, shorting out electronics, doing irreparable damage to the carpet. Like Johnny Depp's (spoiler alert) death scene in A Nightmare On Elm Street, but with poop instead of blood, and an exasperated anus instead of a hole in a bed.

What I'm trying to say is I'd be really excited, but you get the idea.





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The storyline wouldn't be DB swerving the fans. The story is that DB was going to announce his retirement but superstar XYZ goads him into a reflection of his career truly being over, perhaps attacking DB and now he reconsiders but the doctors won't clear him to return.

This would have be an incredibly ideal spot for Seth Rollins, presuming he stayed heel. An ever greater spot for the long awaited Cena heel turn. Sadly itd at best be a Sheamus or Del Rio.


If Kevin Owens' theme song were to hit in the middle of Daniel Bryan's retirement speech I might poop all over of the places. Just, a torrential outpouring of fecal matter propelled by nothing but pure joy as I'm flung around my living room like a live unmanned fire hose just RUINING furniture, shorting out electronics, doing irreparable damage to the carpet. Like Johnny Depp's (spoiler alert) death scene in A Nightmare On Elm Street, but with poop instead of blood, and an exasperated anus instead of a hole in a bed.

What I'm trying to say is I'd be really excited, but you get the idea.


That's the best poop-post OO's seen since the time Jeb taunted someone about shitting their pants deliberately because it made them feel like they were dunking their ass and balls into a warm plate of macaroni and cheese.





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Kevin Owens is pretty much the only guy who could make this happen logically. And he's wrestled early in the show and was pissed after losing. What better way to continue pissed-off-ness than going after another Internet darling?
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If Kevin Owens' theme song were to hit in the middle of Daniel Bryan's retirement speech I might poop all over of the places. Just, a torrential outpouring of fecal matter propelled by nothing but pure joy as I'm flung around my living room like a live unmanned fire hose just RUINING furniture, shorting out electronics, doing irreparable damage to the carpet. Like Johnny Depp's (spoiler alert) death scene in A Nightmare On Elm Street, but with poop instead of blood, and an exasperated anus instead of a hole in a bed.

What I'm trying to say is I'd be really excited, but you get the idea.


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You guys overwanking to an Owens main event moment just threw the IWC off its axis and caused this to happen.



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Goldi Hendrix? So that's where Sandow's gimmick went.
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