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posted on 3-30-2016 at 05:42 AM
Reigns Talk / Crap / Bitching / Loving / Whatevs
quote:Originally posted by nOOb
I don't know what else is left to say about Reigns that hasn't already been said numerous times over the time period since November 2014.
There was a time when Streak Talk was the most annoying thing on the boards. It obviously came up once every year, but it pretty much popped up
repeatedly throughout the year like a case of herpes.
Reigns Talk is the new Streak Talk. It's the same bitching. The same anti-bitching. But the same everything just repeated all over the
place.
Streak talk got it's own thread. That way people who wanted to participate could go in and requote the same fucking post they made the last
time they posted about it. And people who wanted to avoid it could.
Now, Reigns Talk has it's own thread. That thread is right here. In this thread.
You're welcome.
[Edited on 4-5-2016 by williamssl]
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 05:50 AM
I''d like to start things off officially by talking about CM Punk's record breaking reign as cham--*reads title again*--OHHH....
Well, it had to happen sooner or later. As somebody who's guilty of plenty of RR talk elsewhere I'm sure I'll have a grand ol'
time over here. AND if I have to mention RR anywhere else, and feel free to join me, I shall from hereon out refer to him by the codename
"Brocktoon" in honor of "The Guy Who Plays Mr. Belvedere Fan Club."
edit:updated link
[Edited on 4/8/2016 by CM Crunk]
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 05:58 AM
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 06:09 AM
The people who get overexcited about Roman are kind of like Kramer when he burst into Jerry's apartment and shouted "Steinbrenner! He's
ruining my whole life!". It's the same as every fucking year. "Mania is absolutely going to suck!", then it turns out that it really
didn't, and even the following night's RAW ends up being one to remember.
The key is to put him on the backburner mentally and emotionally, and enjoy the parts of the show that are still fun. Owens. Sasha, who'll get
one of the all-time massive crowd pops if she wins at WM. Ambrose. Bork! Bork! Bork! Shane O'Mac. AJ Styles in his first WM, something that a
lot of us never thought we would ever see. For a company that's been absolutely devastated by injuries over the last twelve months they're
still going to put on a mostly entertaining and fun show. Even the main event will end up being OK most likely. And Reigns will do his part as well in
that one. It's not like Hunter is going to be dragging a total slouch to a decent match. Smile, because if this is one of the biggest things
we're complaining about then most of us apparently don't have very difficult lives.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 06:15 AM
gleep
[Edited on 3/30/2016 by Paddlefoot]
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 06:45 AM
I just wanted to +1 my post count.
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 06:51 AM
If you're an asshole and you know it make some gifs *clapclap*
If you're an asshole and you know it and you really want to show it just go on a pro wrestling website and bitch aboot things you have no
control over and try to oversell the funny by slapping some shit together in a string of barely intelligible images then put some stupid sad song
behind it because you think it's clever or dick around on some free gif maker website and imagine you're now King Shit of Dook Mountain
because you managed to slap some words over moving images that a first year moron in remedial Try Not to Shit Your Pants While Adding Single Digits
Together 101 class could manage with both thumbs comfortably perched inside their tight brown aperture *clapcla
quote:Originally posted by janerd75
If you want a vision of the WWE's future, imagine an overpushed Samoan stamping on a human face - forever.
For Tex...
[Edited on 3-30-2016 by janerd75]
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 01:54 PM
For me the strange thing about the Reigns situation at this time is that they seem to be clicking with almost everything else. Even the Total Divas
match has a certain logic due to the existence of said show.
I found the irony of ending RAW in that fashion then following it up with the Daniel Bryan documentary particularly odd (really hope that
doesn't need explaining)
Rick has long said and is completely right that the taste left by the end of a show is what you remember. In this case, we know the chances of that
taste being any good at all are very slim. So as good as the rest of the matches may be, its gonna be there niggling all night.
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 02:28 PM
quote:Originally posted by Paddlefoot
The people who get overexcited about Roman are kind of like Kramer when he burst into Jerry's apartment and shouted "Steinbrenner! He's
ruining my whole life!". It's the same as every fucking year. "Mania is absolutely going to suck!", then it turns out that it really
didn't, and even the following night's RAW ends up being one to remember.
The key is to put him on the backburner mentally and emotionally, and enjoy the parts of the show that are still fun. Owens. Sasha, who'll get
one of the all-time massive crowd pops if she wins at WM. Ambrose. Bork! Bork! Bork! Shane O'Mac. AJ Styles in his first WM, something that a
lot of us never thought we would ever see...
RYDERMANIA!!!
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 06:00 PM
I thought "Reigns Talk" was an example of his promo-giving ability.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 09:37 PM
quote:Originally posted by punkerhardcore
I thought "Reigns Talk" was an example of his promo-giving ability.
His what now?
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 10:24 PM
I spent two and a half minutes in paint today making a rather lewd picture of Vince and Roman Reigns. It was tasteless, tacky, and horribly done.
And yet I got a real satisfaction from it.
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 10:38 PM
Was a swan involved?
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 11:25 PM
Nah, that's a work of art compared to my kindergarten efforts. But hey, I'll post up the effort, and you may mock the lazy factor put
into it at your leisure. I'm not even sure what motivated me, to be honest. I was going to put in a badly cut and pasted triple H behind
Reigns as well, but then became an adult again and refrained.
[Edited on 3-30-2016 by Quentil]
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 11:35 PM
One batch...
Two batch...
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posted on 3-30-2016 at 11:42 PM
I'll say this: I have less of a problem with Roman Reigns being in this year's WrestleMania main event than I do with a basically retired,
46 year-old Triple H main-eventing WrestleMania as WWE champion in the year 2016. Because if someone had told me during WrestleMania 2000 that 16
years later Triple H would still be defending the title in the main event of WrestleMania, I would have told them to fuck off. That's the
equivalent of Roman Reigns defending the WWE title in the main event of WrestleMania XLVIII in 2032. Let's all ponder that for a moment.
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posted on 3-31-2016 at 03:12 AM
Honestly, I don't mind Roman Reigns. I think his endless push is hurting him, and I liked him much more when he was in the Shield. But I
don't mind seeing him on my tv all that much usually. I'd agree with Goon in that seeing HHH with the belt at Wrestlemania is much more
annoying. I've been sick of the Authority story arc forever. Is it so hard for them to stay off Raw for more than a week?
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posted on 3-31-2016 at 03:43 AM
I don't hate the idea of HHH being in the main event as the champ; the guy's only a few years removed from full time competitor (2011-ish)
and he's kept a semi-annual or so ring presence since then... I mean there was some support for Undertaker winning the belt, and Sting got some
cheers for almost winning the belt from Rollins...
Don't get me wrong, there were far, far better options for what to do with the title going into Wrestlemania... But in this case I really
don't think the problem is HHH... or Roman for that matter either... it's this whole forced booking mess that they have on their hands
with Reigns....
People Boo? Okay, instead of taking an objective look at your product and tweaking it along the way (cause you know, this stuff is written week in and
week out and can be changed unlike other shows) they have instead doubled down on Reigns, which has caused resistance, and thrust the whole situation
into more of a spotlight that maybe it can stand up to... HHH is a horrible opponent for this reason as while he's a legend, he also has always
had that stink of being a guy who's over-dominated the top of the card at the expense of others deemed ore talented.... What you've got is
a guy who the audience will cheer over Reigns, but who they very well might also not have a problem with taking a Texas size turd on in their
match.
It really is too bad.... Before that fateful day that Reigns won maybe the worst Slammy in the history of the Slammy's he looked like he had all
the potential in the world. That potential is still there... he's young enough, and still developing, but the way he's been booked
threatens to have his suffer from a lifelong case of these years following him around.... I mean, how far off are we from it being "fun" to actively
hate on Roman and try and sabotage his every effort, assuming we aren't there already.
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posted on 3-31-2016 at 03:45 AM
I mean, HHH being champ when he shouldn't be is kind of the story. The whole Authority storyline is a meta story intended to anger smarks. Has
it gone on too long? Oh yes. But them making you mad by HHH booking himself to win the title is exactly what they wanted. And it would've
worked well, I think, if the anti-Roman sentiment hadn't gotten out of hand. But we're left with what we're left with, which is
probably a good match that's going to get shit on by the crowd.
None of which matters.
If the crowd shows up to boo Roman out of the building, they still showed up. WWE doesn't care why you buy tickets, only that you do.
It's the same thing with the Batman V Superman stuff - a lot of people hate it and they may even be right. But most of them still paid to see
it so the powers that be see no reason to change course. Booing the face and cheering the heel (or booing them both) isn't a 'fan
revolt' - a fan revolt would be not buying tickets in the first place. But that isn't going to happen.
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posted on 3-31-2016 at 04:53 AM
quote:Originally posted by GodEatGod
If the crowd shows up to boo Roman out of the building, they still showed up. WWE doesn't care why you buy tickets, only that you do.
I agree completely.
However, Wrestlemania is an unusual situation because the show itself is the draw regardless of who is on it and who main events. People were going to
buy tickets regardless of who is wrestling for the title.
But over the long term? It's possible you will see merchandise sales decline, subscriptions plateau, and/or house show tickets tank.
The WWE has spent the better part of ten years trying to convince themselves and everyone else that smart fans don't matter and only kids and
families do. Replacing Super Cena with Super Roman might be the last straw for a lot of hardcore wrestling fans.
When it Reigns, it bores.
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posted on 3-31-2016 at 04:53 AM
quote:Originally posted by janerd75
I thought "Squeebooo.gif" was the best, until I scrolled down and saw this. I'm glad I got
my graphic-issues solved in time to see this, for it brought a tear to my eye and put warmth in my heart. That's a Slammy Award winning gif, if
ever I have seen one. Batchamania is runnin wild up in hurr.
[Edited on 3-31-2016 by Count Zero]
Originally posted by williamssl
"That hasn't stopped us from doing this shit before!"
"Checkmate, sir. Checkmate"
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posted on 3-31-2016 at 06:34 AM
quote:Originally posted by CCharger
quote:Originally posted by GodEatGod
If the crowd shows up to boo Roman out of the building, they still showed up. WWE doesn't care why you buy tickets, only that you do.
I agree completely.
However, Wrestlemania is an unusual situation because the show itself is the draw regardless of who is on it and who main events. People were going to
buy tickets regardless of who is wrestling for the title.
But over the long term? It's possible you will see merchandise sales decline, subscriptions plateau, and/or house show tickets tank.
The WWE has spent the better part of ten years trying to convince themselves and everyone else that smart fans don't matter and only kids and
families do. Replacing Super Cena with Super Roman might be the last straw for a lot of hardcore wrestling fans.
I can't believe that hardcore wrestling fans are going to turn away from Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, Dean Ambrose, AJ Styles, Finn Balor, Sasha
Banks, Bayley, New Days etc. over Roman Reigns. He's just one guy. And I've heard the last straw thing soooooo many times in my nearly
twenty years in the IWC and it almost never really is. The casuals drift, but the hardcores stay, even if it's only to complain. Not to
mention that most would want to keep the Network to have access to old PPVs and shows and NXT.
[Edited on 3-31-2016 by GodEatGod]
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posted on 3-31-2016 at 12:20 PM
I don't think people hate HHH and the story concept of the Authority because we're supposed to. I don't think it's the kind
of emotional reaction that is because of a smark being burned. At least, not for me. For me it's simply a stale story that adds nothing to my
enjoyment of the product. If anything, it detracts from it. It's not about seeing HHH lose the belt, or the Authority to be taught a lesson.
It's about me simply being sick of the characters being shoveled down my throat.
I don't know if I'm a casual or a hardcore fan. I drift all the time from wrestling, and often don't watch RAW live for months at a
time when the story is boring. But I'm never going to "swear off wrestling forever!" either. I simply want to see a change in the story.
Fresh characters in the leadership role, offering fresh spins on telling the tale.
There was no real need for HHH to have the belt. It was predictable and not really seen as anything adding to anyone. The story of the authority vs
Reigns has been a long, tedious, and sometimes illogical spiel of pointlessness that has only soured the crowd somewhat on Reigns, and really done
nothing to elevate anyone. Not even HHH. If your main belt isn't being used for any purpose at all, then you're doing it wrong as a
wrestling organization.
[Edited on 3-31-2016 by Quentil]
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posted on 3-31-2016 at 04:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by GodEatGod
quote:Originally posted by CCharger
quote:Originally posted by GodEatGod
If the crowd shows up to boo Roman out of the building, they still showed up. WWE doesn't care why you buy tickets, only that you do.
I agree completely.
However, Wrestlemania is an unusual situation because the show itself is the draw regardless of who is on it and who main events. People were going to
buy tickets regardless of who is wrestling for the title.
But over the long term? It's possible you will see merchandise sales decline, subscriptions plateau, and/or house show tickets tank.
The WWE has spent the better part of ten years trying to convince themselves and everyone else that smart fans don't matter and only kids and
families do. Replacing Super Cena with Super Roman might be the last straw for a lot of hardcore wrestling fans.
I can't believe that hardcore wrestling fans are going to turn away from Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, Dean Ambrose, AJ Styles, Finn Balor, Sasha
Banks, Bayley, New Days etc. over Roman Reigns. He's just one guy. And I've heard the last straw thing soooooo many times in my nearly
twenty years in the IWC and it almost never really is. The casuals drift, but the hardcores stay, even if it's only to complain. Not to
mention that most would want to keep the Network to have access to old PPVs and shows and NXT.
[Edited on 3-31-2016 by GodEatGod]
This is a great point, but what if five years down the line, we are seeing all those guys you mentioned jobbing out to Super Roman? What if the
creative storytelling of the product continues to be at best hit and miss and at worst really stupid and childish?
The WWE is just like any other business. If you continue to put out a bad to mediocre product, eventually people will stop consuming it.
Granted, we've all heard the "I'm DONE with the WWE!" thing before but every fanbase - every consumer cohort - finally gets fed up with
bad stuff. You could be right in that the IWC will stick by even if the WWE degenerates into a terrifying mash up of Total Divas and American
Gladiators.
What's really frustrating about the WWE is they are unique in the business world in that their consumers give them INSTANT feedback about what
they like and don't like. What they want to see and what they don't. Vince gets a gigantic focus group everyone Monday, and yet STILL does
what he likes rather than please the consumers.
When it Reigns, it bores.
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posted on 3-31-2016 at 04:49 PM
CCharger's post made me realise why Reigns being in the main event of Wrestlemania is pissing may people off, myself included. Its because
Wrestlemania is the show that we will watch and people will buy tickets to regardless of the matches. Its FUCKING WRESTLEMANIA FFS!!!
So, that makes it more frustrating when we get something we know can be better.
As for HHH having the belt, hey I have no problem with that. He's a veteran who can still go, and do it all, and will probably bring the best
out of Reigns thats possible.
The problem is that he is in a match where Reigns might win the title. Thats the issue. If it were just Reigns vs the Authority, it would be just fine
and this thread probably wouldnt exist.
