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posted on 7-13-2016 at 07:24 PM Edit Post
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I mean, I get a kick out of the whole "Suplex City" thing but I miss the days when Brock's offense was more varied and he was more unpredictable.




Oh god, so much this. I was okay with Ambrose getting slaughtered by Brock at WM - Dean is pretty bulletproof and taking beatings is part of what he does. But it was such a BORING beating. Suplex. Stand around. Suplex. Stand around. Just...run. Throw a clothesline. Hell, where's the old double powerbomb? Ever since Suplex City became a thing, Brock seems to have literally just stuck his matches into one gear. I don't know if Orton is the guy that's going to change that. Someone like Rollins I can see having the energy and innovation to really liven him up - or Owens to inject the character required to fire him up and build heat during the match itself.





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posted on 7-13-2016 at 08:24 PM Edit Post
If we're doing this like a "thing", then I'm going to join in. SUPLEX CITY IS THE MOST BORING CITY ON EARTH OH MY GAWD.

I'm in full-agreement with y'all. I don't expect Bork to be busting out the Shooting Star Presses or anything, but there is more to a match than 15 german suplays (tm Gordon Solie?).

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posted on 7-14-2016 at 03:30 AM Edit Post
I think WWE simply assumed that after the Cena squash, seeing Lesnar squash everybody would get more of the same reaction. Seeing Lesnar dominate the living shit out of Cena and Reigns was impactful because he was literally ripping away their invincibility aura. When he's not facing an untouchable, it's just a boring old squash.

He briefly ditched the Suplex City stuff to have real matches with Taker, I think Orton will receive a similar treatment.

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posted on 7-15-2016 at 03:46 AM Edit Post
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If we're doing this like a "thing", then I'm going to join in. SUPLEX CITY IS THE MOST BORING CITY ON EARTH OH MY GAWD.

I'm in full-agreement with y'all. I don't expect Bork to be busting out the Shooting Star Presses or anything, but there is more to a match than 15 german suplays (tm Gordon Solie?).


Yes ... 16 German suplexes!!!

I've come to notice that my wrestling fandom is the polar opposite of Count Zero's. Which is totally fine. He's probably in the majority. Personally I'd watch Brock suplex someone 30 times and not get bored of it. That Cena match was one of my favorite matches of the last 5 years. I love some Brock smash.

I'm also excited about the rumored Big Show vs Shaq match so yeah ... um ... there's that.





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posted on 7-15-2016 at 04:16 AM Edit Post
Brock smash? Yes. Brock grapple? Not so much.





You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 7-15-2016 at 06:02 AM Edit Post
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Yes ... 16 German suplexes!!!

I've come to notice that my wrestling fandom is the polar opposite of Count Zero's. Which is totally fine. He's probably in the majority. Personally I'd watch Brock suplex someone 30 times and not get bored of it. That Cena match was one of my favorite matches of the last 5 years. I love some Brock smash.

I'm also excited about the rumored Big Show vs Shaq match so yeah ... um ... there's that.


Dude, sign me up as a proud citizen of Suplex City. Borkington of House Laser is one of the handful of truly larger-than-life wrestling characters in the 'E and I could watch him maul folks for hours. And yeah, his destruction of John Cena was one of the best wrestling anythings I've seen in years. As was his Brockzilla rampage following Wrestlemania.

WWE is full of excellent workers who throw together roughly one four-and-a-half or five-star Workrate! classic a month. I've forgotten pretty much all of them, but I'll remember Brock Lesnar wafflestomping John Cena for a long time.

You don't need a big vocabulary of moves to be a great wrestler. You need to do what you know with authority and use it to tell a great story.

I mean, in my very own oh-so-humble opinion.





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posted on 7-15-2016 at 02:28 PM Edit Post
* The Rock is now the highest paid actor in Hollywood

* There are still no firm plans for the WWE draft. The names are still in flux and will not be finalized until the day of the show. It's highly likely that names from the past will be used to fill out rosters. Names like MVP, Carlito, and JTG have been mentioned.

* Cody Rhodes appearance in ROH is imminent.





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posted on 7-15-2016 at 10:21 PM Edit Post
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* There are still no firm plans for the WWE draft. The names are still in flux and will not be finalized until the day of the show. It's highly likely that names from the past will be used to fill out rosters. Names like MVP, Carlito, and JTG have been mentioned.

Probably to keep the sheets from spoiling anything.

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posted on 7-15-2016 at 10:39 PM Edit Post
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I've come to notice that my wrestling fandom is the polar opposite of Count Zero's. Which is totally fine. He's probably in the majority. Personally I'd watch Brock suplex someone 30 times and not get bored of it. That Cena match was one of my favorite matches of the last 5 years. I love some Brock smash.

I'm also excited about the rumored Big Show vs Shaq match so yeah ... um ... there's that.
The first time Bork went Suplexman on John Cena? That was fucking awesome. The umpteenth time I've seen him do it? It's One Move Of Doom. If Apollo Crews did it, people would be wanting him to go back to the minors and learn2wrassle. I don't insist on everybody being a Neville, and I loves me some epic beatdowns on occasion, but I also like more than Greco-Roman Olympic Suplexing For Infinity, All The Time. It's the 'real-world' equivalent of That Guy who knows One Fighting-Video-Game Move, and uses it exclusively and STILL somehow wins.
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Yes ... 16 German suplexes!!!
You missed a prime opportunity to throw in a "AH HA HAA!!!!" a la Count Von Count.

[Edited on 7-15-2016 by Count Zero]

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posted on 7-15-2016 at 11:30 PM Edit Post
Be a great moment if Brock ever faced Cesaro. Have a countdown of Cesaro Swings before the inevitable trip down downtown Suplex City happens.





You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 7-16-2016 at 12:04 AM Edit Post
Brock may have been popped for PEDs.

Ruh-Roh

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posted on 7-16-2016 at 12:45 AM Edit Post
Just gonna move this over to the new thread...

[Edited on 7-15-2016 by nOOb]





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posted on 7-16-2016 at 07:12 AM Edit Post
Count ...

I totally agree on both of your points. Brock is the real life video game spam guy. I think that's precisely why I like it. Kind of like when Family Guy tells a joke for so long it goes from funny to stupid to awkward until it's somehow funny again. I think Stolkholm Syndrome sets in around the 8th suplex.

And, yes, an evil Count Von Count laugh should have been made.

Lastly it's important for me to point out that I've always enjoyed wrestlers based primarily on 3 things in order. 1) Do they look like they can beat the shit out of someone. 2) Do they make me laugh. 3) Can they work a good match.

I'd prefer to watch Big Show over Bret Hart every time.





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