Wickedfrost
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posted on 7-25-2016 at 07:32 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by royberto
Becky jobs clean again at a PPV. And people will still claim she isn't being treated like shit.
RIP Beck'y's career. Just another victim of Vince's ego.
Against Nattie who's in the middle of a well-earned end-of-career rebuild - and who has been on the receiving end of a pile of shit for a long
time. Sorry Butthurto - your mistreated talent can get in line. Some of us have been waiting a little while longer for their favorites to get some
shine.
#dicksoutforroyberto
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royberto
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posted on 7-25-2016 at 07:39 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Wickedfrost
quote: Originally posted by royberto
Becky jobs clean again at a PPV. And people will still claim she isn't being treated like shit.
RIP Beck'y's career. Just another victim of Vince's ego.
Against Nattie who's in the middle of a well-earned end-of-career rebuild - and who has been on the receiving end of a pile of shit for a long
time. Sorry Butthurto - your mistreated talent can get in line. Some of us have been waiting a little while longer for their favorites to get some
shine.
Natalya should be putting others over and she already has had her time to shine. If they want to put Natalya over someone, feed her Eva
Marie. Becky doesn't deserve the shit Vince keeps piling on her and sure as hell should be jobbed to a woman who's only talent is being
Bret Hart's niece. It amazes me even further that HHH sits there with his head up his ass and does nothing. Most over babyface they had and they
destroyed her.
[Edited on 7-25-2016 by royberto]
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Matte
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posted on 7-25-2016 at 08:17 PM |
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Agreed with royberto that Nattie sucks and Becky should've gone over. Nattie shined years ago with Beth Phoenix; her time has come and gone. I
won't claim to know all the backstage turmoil that leads to Becky getting shafted, but I can't say it's not disappointing.
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Quentil
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posted on 7-25-2016 at 08:34 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by royberto
Becky jobs clean again at a PPV. And people will still claim she isn't being treated like shit.
RIP Beck'y's career. Just another victim of Vince's ego.
Taken from http://www.thecelebritiesnetworth.com/2016/02/becky-lynch-net-worth-salary-2016.html:
Becky Lynch Net Worth : $650 Thousand
Annual Salary : $220,000
Date of Birth : January 30, 1987
Country / Birthplace : Dublin, Republic of Ireland
Age : 29 Year Old
Occupation : Professional Wrestler , Model
Taken from http://www.sescoops.com/charlotte-sasha-banks-becky-lynch-get-raises-update-on-nxt-pay/
"Charlotte, Sasha Banks and Becky Lynch all received either amended contracts with an increase in pay or new main roster WWE deals the day after
all three made their debuts on RAW for the first time."
Man, I wish I had such a horrible boss that he gave me a raise and paid me $220,000 a year when I was 29 years old. And her being a millionaire by 31
is a fine example of her being held down and buried.
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Dyn-O-Mite
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posted on 7-25-2016 at 08:42 PM |
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I didn't necessarily agree with the execution of the booking... (i.e. have Becky win or Natalya use nefarious means)
But stepping back for a second, and taking the landscape as is, let's say Becky vanquishes Natalya last night. Now what? Take a look at the
Smackdown women's division roster. Who does she have high profile feud with now? Naomi, who hasn't been on tv for months? Alexa Bliss?
Carmella? Is Maryse coming out of retirement?
Flipside - Can you afford to diminish Nattie against an over/established Becky? SM women's roster is too thin for that.
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royberto
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posted on 7-25-2016 at 09:30 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Quentil
quote: Originally posted by royberto
Becky jobs clean again at a PPV. And people will still claim she isn't being treated like shit.
RIP Beck'y's career. Just another victim of Vince's ego.
Taken from http://www.thecelebritiesnetworth.com/2016/02/becky-lynch-net-worth-salary-2016.html:
Becky Lynch Net Worth : $650 Thousand
Annual Salary : $220,000
Date of Birth : January 30, 1987
Country / Birthplace : Dublin, Republic of Ireland
Age : 29 Year Old
Occupation : Professional Wrestler , Model
Taken from http://www.sescoops.com/charlotte-sasha-banks-becky-lynch-get-raises-update-on-nxt-pay/
"Charlotte, Sasha Banks and Becky Lynch all received either amended contracts with an increase in pay or new main roster WWE deals the day after
all three made their debuts on RAW for the first time."
Man, I wish I had such a horrible boss that he gave me a raise and paid me $220,000 a year when I was 29 years old. And her being a millionaire by 31
is a fine example of her being held down and buried.
Self respect is worth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money. Spin all you want, but there is
absolutely no excuse for the way they have shit on her.
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royberto
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posted on 7-25-2016 at 09:34 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Dyn-O-Mite
I didn't necessarily agree with the execution of the booking... (i.e. have Becky win or Natalya use nefarious means)
But stepping back for a second, and taking the landscape as is, let's say Becky vanquishes Natalya last night. Now what? Take a look at the
Smackdown women's division roster. Who does she have high profile feud with now? Naomi, who hasn't been on tv for months? Alexa Bliss?
Carmella? Is Maryse coming out of retirement?
Flipside - Can you afford to diminish Nattie against an over/established Becky? SM women's roster is too thin for that.
But you can say
the exact same things now. Now what? Natalya already beat the top baby face clean as a sheet. Who does either one have a high profile feud with?
It's the same thing. Becky could have had a feud with any of those others as heels. Natalya was already dead in the water and is long past her
time. Becky against any of those other girls would have been far fresher and exciting than Natalya. You cannot keep jobbing Becky out and keep
expecting people to care about her. But Becky got over on her own. Big no no. She is only supposed to get over when Vince pushes her with his
writing, damnit.
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Columbo
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posted on 7-25-2016 at 10:25 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by DKBroiler
Calling it now ... debut of the Balor "Club" tonight. I think they'll start a long term story that culminates in Styles vs Balor down the
road at WrestleMania.
I think the Balor Club getting together and beating the shit outta Sami is a good way to get a KO face turn.
"The North Cafeteria, named after Admiral William North, is located in the western portion of East Hall, gateway to the western half of North Hall,
which is named, not after William North, but for its position above the South Wall. It is the most contested and confusing battlefield on Greendale�s
campus, next to the English Memorial Spanish Center, named after English Memorial, a Portuguese sailor that discovered Greendale while looking for a
fountain that cured syphilis."
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CM Crunk
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posted on 7-25-2016 at 10:44 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Columbo
quote: Originally posted by DKBroiler
Calling it now ... debut of the Balor "Club" tonight. I think they'll start a long term story that culminates in Styles vs Balor down the
road at WrestleMania.
I think the Balor Club getting together and beating the shit outta Sami is a good way to get a KO face turn.
While I would love ANY of that I just can't see them bringing him in as anything other than babyface. I imagine what we're probably going
to get is the start of some video packages leading to a Summerslam debut.
Now, hyping a Summerslam debut that reeks of babyfacitude and having him heel it up and team up with The Club? That'd be fun. But between WWE
dropping the B�lor Club trademark not too long ago and the sheer Steamboatishness of ol' Finn, I don't know that I can see that happening.
I'm always happy to be proven wrong though.
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Quentil
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posted on 7-25-2016 at 10:48 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by royberto
Self respect is worth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money. Spin all you want, but there is absolutely no excuse for the way they have shit on her.
Why do you think Becky Lynch has no self-respect? Do you know her personally? Can you link to articles where she's complained about her role
in the WWE? Everything i've seen from her seems to indicate she loves her job. I dunno, man. I get that you're a Protector/White Knight
sort for her, but even you have to see that you're being silly.
Oh wait, or you're trolling. In that case, I guess you got one over on us for replying to you?
Either way. She's well-paid, well-respected, and has a starring role on the major league pretend-fighting prime time international tv empire
that is the WWE. It appears that she's very happy with her position, at least at the moment. So whatever, man. Just whatever. Maybe take a
Xanax or something. I dunno.
[Edited on 7-25-2016 by Quentil]
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DKBroiler
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posted on 7-25-2016 at 11:01 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by CM Crunk
quote: Originally posted by Columbo
quote: Originally posted by DKBroiler
Calling it now ... debut of the Balor "Club" tonight. I think they'll start a long term story that culminates in Styles vs Balor down the
road at WrestleMania.
I think the Balor Club getting together and beating the shit outta Sami is a good way to get a KO face turn.
While I would love ANY of that I just can't see them bringing him in as anything other than babyface. I imagine what we're probably going
to get is the start of some video packages leading to a Summerslam debut.
Now, hyping a Summerslam debut that reeks of babyfacitude and having him heel it up and team up with The Club? That'd be fun. But between WWE
dropping the B�lor Club trademark not too long ago and the sheer Steamboatishness of ol' Finn, I don't know that I can see that happening.
I'm always happy to be proven wrong though.
Re: Babyfacitude
- Great word.
- I think Zayn and Becky have the market cornered on Steamboatedness currently.
- I do believe that Balor will be a star, but I don't get that "this dude is always gonna be a face" vibe like I do with Zayn. Time will
tell.
- It just dawned on me that eventually Demon Finn will fight Demon Kane. This has nothing to do with any of the previous posts.
Get off my lawn.
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Ortonmustdie
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posted on 7-25-2016 at 11:08 PM |
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Just a thought, but... Steve Lombardi pretty much had a nice long career as "enhancement talent", didn't he??
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Paddlefoot
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 12:35 AM |
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The illegal clips of the women's tag match are still up on YouTube but the ones of Nattie/Becky have all been taken down. Goddamn YouTube, there
they go burying Becky again.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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First 9
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 01:26 AM |
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Just another vote on the Nattie sucks pile. She's had her shots and pulled her weights less than a half of the time. She's a fucking Hart
and has botched the Sharshotter multiple times and in trying to talk herself up she buried the Title when feuding with AJ, ''Who cares if
AJ has a Title, I'm a born Champion.'' Like, the fuck? You're not the goddamn Undertaker, you can't claim to be bigger
than the Title and still be a face.She's been a bigger example of nepotism than Charlotte.
Anyway, Bryan started as the NXT bitch losing to everybody including a two minute squash to pre-Ryback Skip Sheffield. Zayn lost ALL os his big NXT
matches/specials and Title matches) on route to his Title win.
I'm not saying that Becky is in line for eventually geting her due, but those examples prove it's worth not discarding it. But like many
poor bastards, sometimes WWE will just look at a over talented star and say ''naaah''. People now use Bo as an example of
certain NXT gimmicks not catching on in the main roster. They flat out forgot he got over as the undefeated motivational guru and WWE decided to just
pause it and turn him into a jobber. That's how deep the guy was buried. So if you want to discard it then that's your right as a fan, but
it's a bit unfair to shit on somebody's role as a enhancement talent.
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royberto
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 02:01 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Quentil
quote: Originally posted by royberto
Self respect is worth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money. Spin all you want, but there is absolutely no excuse for the way they have shit on her.
Why do you think Becky Lynch has no self-respect? Do you know her personally? Can you link to articles where she's complained about her role
in the WWE? Everything i've seen from her seems to indicate she loves her job. I dunno, man. I get that you're a Protector/White Knight
sort for her, but even you have to see that you're being silly.
Oh wait, or you're trolling. In that case, I guess you got one over on us for replying to you?
Either way. She's well-paid, well-respected, and has a starring role on the major league pretend-fighting prime time international tv empire
that is the WWE. It appears that she's very happy with her position, at least at the moment. So whatever, man. Just whatever. Maybe take a
Xanax or something. I dunno.
[Edited on 7-25-2016 by Quentil]
It amazes me how blindly people defend WWE's bullshit booking the way you guys try to spin the topic in
a different direction. She has been made to look look like an incompetent idiot while untalented ladies are being pushed way ahead of her simply
because they are related to someone famous, or, in the case of Dana Brooke, oversized knockers that Vince gets off on.
The defending of WWE here is even more hilarious when you look back at all the bitching about others who didn't get pushed. I don't recall
anyone else being told to take a Xanax or being accused of trolling.
Becky deserves a lot better than getting jobbed out every single PPV. There is money to be made with Becky but Vince's ego is in the way because
he cannot handle that she got over on her own. Of course she isn't going to say anything because the moment she does Vince will can her.
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royberto
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 02:04 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by First 9
Anyway, Bryan started as the NXT bitch losing to everybody including a two minute squash to pre-Ryback Skip Sheffield.
Please. Daniel Bryan
was treated as a big deal when he came onto the main roster and sure as hell didn't go his first 8 months without scoring a single fall at a
PPV. Hell, he was in the main event at SummerSlam.
[Edited on 7-26-2016 by royberto]
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First 9
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 02:07 AM |
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That's a bit revionist. Bryan's first night was as a big deal, going head to head with the World Champ. The following match he got
squashed by Big Show, then lost to Barrett, then lost again, and again and again.
After he was out of his NXT rookie phase, it's when he started scoring wins.
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royberto
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 02:15 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by First 9
That's a bit revionist. Bryan's first night was as a big deal, going head to head with the World Champ. The following match he got
squashed by Big Show, then lost to Barrett, then lost again, and again and again.
After he was out of his NXT rookie phase, it's when he started scoring wins.
Daniel Bryan debuted on the main roster as part of the
original Nexus in a red hot angle. He got fired for the tie thing. Then he returns in the main event of SummerSlam as the big surprise. Becky
hasn't come close to sniffing anything remotely like that. She hasn't been given squat since being called up. Meanwhile, Sasha was off the
road for months and now will most likely be given the title at SummerSlam, Charlotte has been pushed to the moon because Ric Flair is her daddy.
Freaking Bayley gets treated like a big deal her first night on the main roster. What does Becky get? Jobbed to DANA F'n BROOKE! CLEAN! Jobbed
to Natalya! CLEAN! Yet people still defend that shabby treatment.
Becky Lynch deserves a lot better.
[Edited on 7-26-2016 by royberto]
[Edited on 7-26-2016 by royberto]
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Paddlefoot
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 02:36 AM |
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Becky was in the title match at WM less than four months ago.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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williamssl
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 02:49 AM |
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When driving and a lane is ending/merging...
For every asshole that waits until the last second to switch lanes, there's an idiot who lets them. Unfortunately there are always more idiots
than assholes so the asshole keeps doing what he's doing.
Royberto is the asshole.
Everyone who continues to quasi seriously engage him on this topic is an idiot.
I'd say stop....but some other idiot is just going to come along and enable him.
Don't Mess With Texas
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First 9
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 03:00 AM |
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Just for the record, I do think Becky is getting the short end of the stick. I just don't think it's that different than WWE's
previous poor treatment of talented and popular guys. Just saying that there's examples of people rising past those slumps(more often than not,
it doesn't happen I admit that) but you shouldn't hold it against others for being positive and thinkign Becky will get her moment in the
sun.
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CM Crunk
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 06:22 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by williamssl
When driving and a lane is ending/merging...
For every asshole that waits until the last second to switch lanes, there's an idiot who lets them. Unfortunately there are always more idiots
than assholes so the asshole keeps doing what he's doing.
Royberto is the asshole.
Everyone who continues to quasi seriously engage him on this topic is an idiot.
I'd say stop....but some other idiot is just going to come along and enable him.
Welcome to the REAL ZONE.
Is it still cool if I continue to obliquely reference the inanity of any attempts to engage in polite, rational discourse with the bag of soiled clown
hankies without directly engaging said bag of soiled clown hankies in polite, rational discourse?
quote: Originally posted by First 9
Just for the record, I do think Becky is getting the short end of the stick. I just don't think it's that different than WWE's
previous poor treatment of talented and popular guys. Just saying that there's examples of people rising past those slumps(more often than not,
it doesn't happen I admit that) but you shouldn't hold it against others for being positive and thinkign Becky will get her moment in the
sun.
I feel much the same way but I don't see any real negative writing on the wall for Becky. She's featured prominently just about every
week, and has become a big part of WWEs PR campaign being sent to participate and raise brand awareness at huge events like SDCC. She appears to play
well with others, and to genuinely be stoked about her lot in life. House show (whichtotallydontcountforshitIknow) reports regularly list her in the
top 5 biggest pops of the night. Kids love her, little girls idolize her, she has an insanely marketable visual appeal with the whole steampunk
aesthetic, moves a lot of merch. She's a reliable hand in the ring who has won over the fans to such an extent that it wouldn't take much
to reignite the fire and make her a serious contender for the top of her division.
In a lot of ways I see her as the Ambrose of the Women's Division. Look no further back than Wrestlemania, followed by his feud with Jericho
over a jacket and a potted plant, and the IWC's (mostly outside of OO) reactions to his supposed burial and how he'll never be able to
make up the ground that he'd lost to Seth and Roman since The Shield was broken up. Look at him now, a few scant months later.
Oh shit, gotta go. Kool-Aids ready.
[Edited on 7/26/2016 by CM Crunk]
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royberto
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 09:50 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Becky was in the title match at WM less than four months ago.
Whoopie. She was Ric Flair's daughter's bitch in that feud and had
to once again do the job there. Becky should have been given the title at Wrestlemania. Perfect "Wrestlemania Moment" and Vince's ego
wouldn't allow it. Because fuck ythe fans, that's why.
[Edited on 7-26-2016 by royberto]
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CM Crunk
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 10:01 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Cunty McKnickertwist
quote: Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Becky was in the title match at WM less than four months ago.
[Edited on 7-26-2016 by Cunty McKnickertwist]
I...uh, I'm not sure what this revelation adds to the discussion but, uh... I guess it's nice to see you opening up like a real person.
I'd offer you a hug but I'm still bothered that I have to share a planet with you.
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Slick
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 02:25 PM |
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They should have the local talent, Britt Baker, who Nia Jax decimated last night, squash Becky Lynch the next 2 weeks. I'd enjoy that.
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