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Author: Subject: PPV DISCUSSION THREAD: BattleGround 2016
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posted on 7-24-2016 at 05:58 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
BattleGround 2016

The term one match show comes to mind, but the potential of Zayn vs Owens makes this more well rounded.. One of the most aniticipated matches in years takes place as The Shield Triple Threat finally happens with nobody looking like the clear winner. Smart money is in a double pin leading to a Title split, but WWE might overcomplicate things. Besides that, Battleground has a solid but not great undercard with only one more match looking like a show stealer.

Enzo, Cass and Cena vs The Clud should be fun and might give Enzo and Cass their first real stand out match since coming to the main roster.

The Wyatt Family vs The New Day has been ok so far, hopefully now it's when they take things into a higher gear and really go all out.

Sasha and ??? vs Charlotte and Dana will completely depend on who the mystery partner is.

I loved Rusev's current run of taking down the underdogs of the lowercard. Hope this is another entertaining and dominant win although I can't think of how he can surpass talking shit to his opponent's son after beating him.

Miz vs Young should be decent, but the real show will probably be the Maryse/Backlund interaction.

Zayn vs Owens, their match two months ago was good now let's see make something even better..

Orton in the Highlight Reel will only be worthwhile if we get a Heyman appearance.


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Predict who wins HERE!

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The last few WWE PPVs have all had really solid cards, but I find tonight's match lineup kind of lacking. Outside of the main event and Owens/Zayn, there's not a lot I'm excited about. Though this is the first WWE PPV in a few months that isn't competing with Game Of Thrones and/or the NBA playoffs for my viewing time, so that will be kind of nice.

And I like the idea of there being a double-pin in the main event and it would make logical sense as to why RAW gets it's own world title. Have Ambrose and Rollins both pin Reigns, which allows Ambrose to remain WWE champion on Smackdown, and then tomorrow night on RAW Rollins has a legitimate claim to being the WWE champion since he also scored a pinfall victory. Steph can then come out and tell him there's nothing she can do about it since Ambrose and the WWE title are over on Smackdown, but she can award him the world heavyweight title (or some new WWE title belt, whichever) since he also won the match at Battleground.

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posted on 7-24-2016 at 08:35 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
With a card that also has Owens/Zayn, it's hard for me to think of this as a one-match show... and I sort of have expectations for Cena/Enzo/Cass vs. the Club, too.

Granted, the only one of those matches where the outcome has a ginormous impact on the entire State of WWE going forward is the main event triple threat.... but that's more a case of a celestial convergence of factors making Ambrose/Rollins/Reigns special, than it is a case of the other two matches being unworthy of consideration.

The brand split is the biggest contributing factor, as we're all kind of assuming this starts us down a path to a contested/split World Title, so that each brand has a champ. Right there, I'm glued, and hopeful that it's done in a compelling fashion.... over the past few days, rolling it around in my head, I kinda sorta came up with something that *I* like (but I know most of you will pooh-pooh it), which would be to have Triple H come out towards the end of the match, and just completely eliminate Ambrose... but then, he just sits back and watches and does not help Rollins (which everybody would be expecting him to do)... in the short term, HHH's excuse is "Hey, I just wanted to make sure the World Title came back to RAW, and as soon as I took out Ambrose, I'd done that, since both of you work for RAW" (and at the same time, SD now has every justification for refusing to acknowledge the title change, and VOILA, there's your second World Title)... but in the long run, HHH's lack of commitment to one guy or the other could be part of the double-turn that a lot of us are expecting.

If it's easier for you to swallow, you can probably use somebody other than HHH, but still use the "evil powers conspire to make sure the title comes back to RAW by eliminating Ambrose" story... but short of Lesnar himself, I dunno who'd be nearly as compelling.... certainly, this is no job for another Crooked Referee storyline...

And of course, all this gets to the other elephant in the room, which has nothing to do with the brand split.... how will fans react to Reigns, coming off a drug suspension? How true is it that Vince/the front office has lost faith in Reigns? How does all that mix together in terms of Reigns spot on the card and his face/heel alignment? Getting some answers to those questions is every bit as tantalizing as the issue of splitting the title...

By comparison, the stakes for Owens/Zayn and the 6-man tag are miniscule, but I still think we get a trio of buzz-worthy matches out of tonight's PPV, not just the one.

My picks:

Reigns win the main event, pinning Rollins (no matter what else you do, Ambrose losing the title without losing the fall is vital), which continues the narrative Reigns can win when there are wacky stips, but if it's straight-up one-on-one, Rollins always wins, as we head to SummerSlam.... double turn optional.

Zayn over Owens, because lord knows he deserves the happy ending. Plus, Zayn can use this as a springboard to a US Title feud with Rusev; Owens can use his mouth as a springboard to losing zero crediblity despite the loss.

The Club over Cena/Enzo/Cass. My logic is that Gallows & Anderson already lost Styles in the Draft.... if they let Enzo/Cass walk all over them tonight, it'll be hard to sell me on a tag team feud, since G&A; would be starting over and coming off a loss. So let's do a win for the Club, capped off by a heartwrenching farewell where they part ways so that AJ can keep on BEATING UP JOHN CENA, while G&A; perfect their new hobby of BEATING UP ENZO AND CASS.

Not sure if anything good will come out of the Highlight Reel, other than getting some sense of to what degree (if any) WWE is intending to punish/suspend Brock. Lord knows, other than that, putting Randy Orton in a setting where he's required to talk is never a good thing, so I agree with the notion that Heyman may be the only way to save this. Than again: y'all have heard my case against Orton/Lesnar being a match worth caring about, so your mileage may vary compared to mine.

The IC and US Title Matches sort of require that both champs retain, or both champs are dethroned, in order to keep one belt on each brand. And since one of the challengers is Zack Ryder, well....

My pick is that Rusev (RAW) beats Ryder (SD) to retain the US, and Miz (SD) beats Darren Young (RAW) to retain the IC. It pains me to derail DYoung when I'm really enjoying him and Backlund together, but the option would pretty much be giving Ryder another super-short transition reign, which would just be too cruel, right?

New Day over the Wyatts seems like a pretty easy call. Applying a variation on the logic used re: The Club, the Wyatts got broken up in the draft... but in their case, Rowan and Strowman aren't still a team. The Wyatts are shaping up to be three singles coming off the Draft, with Strowman alone on RAW, at AT MOST Rowan as back-up to Bray's new solo career (before too long, he may be rejoined by Luke Harper). Ergo, the tag champs vanquish the Wyatts, so that they're strong going into their next feud.

No idea who is gonna come out as Sasha's partner against Charlotte and Dana Brooke. If it's gotta be someone off the RAW roster (and it should be), that's kinda limiting: Paige, or maybe Nia Jax making a big splash. A free agent could be a possibility (Nikki Bella, Emma, and Tamina went undrafted, as they were out with injuries; but I honestly don't know if any are anywhere near ready). You'd certainly get a huge (if cheap) Stunt Casting Pop if it was, like, Lita or something.

Becky Lynch over Natalya seems a safe bet. Becky is turning into Lady Sting in terms of her ability to pick trust-worthy friends, but nobody's doubting her chances in a fight.

And Usos over Breezango in the first Battle for Position in the new SD Tag Division (on the preshow).




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There could be some interesting narrative storytelling which could lead to Summerslam:

Raw wins ALL the lower titles but leaves World Title on SmackDown.
It would allow Steph to act super smug before the main event and allow announcers to remind viewers they don't understand statistics Raw has a 66% chance of winning the WWE Title...

I don't know if they'd allow Steph to look even mildly weak but it could set up negotiations over the next few weeks where Bryan & Mick are being forced to make brand v brand title matches on top of Brock v Randy.

It also plays into the subtle work were Bryan HAD to draft Miz to get a title but now he has a Miz but no IC, I'd have him TOUGHENING Miz up in the weeks leading to the rematch, what better way to debut American Alpha than throwing Miz around?

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The last few WWE PPVs have all had really solid cards, but I find tonight's match lineup kind of lacking. Outside of the main event and Owens/Zayn,


I think a big part of this is WWE putting a few proven supporting players in the background to give a chance to Young, Ryder, and Enzo & Cass. Switch out those guys and throw in Cesaro, Del Rio, and Jericho and you'd have something that looks better on paper. It's up to the guys in the ppv to prove they deserve to be featured more or WWE will go back to it's bread and butter.

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Cesaro's doing a great job of being all shooty and pissy on the pre-show.





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Foley and Bryan being human.
Making me worry they'll be replaced in weeks...


And Bryan pretending Attitude Era could EVER return, that is epic trolling!!!

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Foley and Bryan being human.
Making me worry they'll be replaced in weeks...


And Bryan pretending Attitude Era could EVER return, that is epic trolling!!!

[Edited on 7-24-2016 by diablo_dor]


Dunno, maybe one of them but it seems like they might be a long haul thing given who they are as people and the full throttle Vince appears to be hammering down on this brand spilt. Fans need some kind of positive figureheads to gravitate to and Mick and Bryan are perfect in those roles. My guess is Shane is the first not be around consistently.

Also, because I'm a piece of shit, I really would like Booker's commentary a lot better if at the end of any declarative sentence he makes he'd add a rumbling baritone "shiiiiiiiiit".

ETA: Fandangler FTW! The Spirit of Chuck and Billy lives on! Also, the ReBOOOOOsos should be a thing. Seriously, I would dig Roman, Jimmy, and Jey as A Thing.

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Breezango over The Usos. I don't care what else happens tonight, I'm a happy man.





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I think there about to split the Usos.....My spider senses says a turn is on its way.
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Oh, I see Mick being fired & slapped well before the years end.
If he isn't slapped at least once by summerslam I'll be shocked.

How far has the Usos stock fallen?
Main event storyline 2 months ago beaten by Billy & Chuck v2 on a pre-show now!!!

I think they need a make over desperately.


I adore the work WWE puts into video packages but I still find myself laughing when they show Seth MitB cash in but refuse to let us see a kerb stomp in case we go try it on our friends or whatever.

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I wanna see a SHIELD three way fist bump in the ring after the bell rings and right before they throw down.

ETA: HUGS FOR EVERYBODY!!!

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Charlotte to start the show. Becky may never recover from this burial.





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We get the mystery tag first!!

It's Bayley


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It's HUG TIME!!!!

Ps. Dana do be lookin good.

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I'm digging the intro's/teasers with the flags... kind of a cool touch.

I'm thinking Rollins wins, with Reigns eating the pin... This will leave Ambrose well positioned as the champ who didn't get beat, Roman having to earn his way back into the main event, and Rollins dealing with a face GM for once... The dynamic of him whining to Steph', while Foley makes him wrestle could be interesting.

I think Owens wins against Zayn; Owens got overlooked into he draft so this will allow him to make a name for himself and prove they should have chosen him higher. SZ will be okay, and with the breathing room that the roster split will give some guys he'll bounce back pretty quick.

I'd give it to the New day over the Wyatt's... maybe if you find a way to slip in a new Wyatt member to really build them up as a big stable for the new rosters to deal with I'd go that way.

Show's on...

Bayley!

Okay... not body shamming Charlotte, but that outfit makes her look like she's sporting a belly that clearly we know she is not.

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#dicksoutforbeckysburial

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Have two women in WWE history EVER got the pop that Sasha & Bayley just got?





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Okay... not body shamming Charlotte, but that outfit makes her look like she's sporting a belly that clearly we know she is not.


I agree, especially with stick thin Sasha in the ring and Dana there that outfit is not helping Charlotte.
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Have two women in WWE history EVER got the pop that Sasha & Bayley just got?


In my room yes. Repeatedly. #dicksoutforsailorjerry





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Sasha wins, but she didn't win the belt.

#BuryingTheBoss

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2 things ...

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