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Author: Subject: OOfficial Discussion Thread for: RAW (July 25, 2016)
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posted on 7-26-2016 at 10:40 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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I'm gonna need some time on the "Universal Title" term. I don't love it but I definitely don't hate it. It kinda has an old-school feel to me (wasn't the UWF the Universal Wrestling Federation back when?)


I can't help but think of the Herb Abrams version of UWF (circa 1992ish), which included the great moment of Steve Williams kicking the snot out of Steve Ray (not Stevie Ray) on the behest of Herb for screwing him over in a coke deal. Herb died of an OD after destroying his office with a baseball bat.


Yow. Sounds like the place was a lot of laughs. Free Zoogz Rift!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Wrestling_Federation_(Herb_Abrams)

Still less fucked up though than Stampede was when Dynamite Kid was running the place.





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posted on 7-26-2016 at 10:44 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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I'm gonna need some time on the "Universal Title" term. I don't love it but I definitely don't hate it. It kinda has an old-school feel to me (wasn't the UWF the Universal Wrestling Federation back when?)


I can't help but think of the Herb Abrams version of UWF (circa 1992ish), which included the great moment of Steve Williams kicking the snot out of Steve Ray (not Stevie Ray) on the behest of Herb for screwing him over in a coke deal. Herb died of an OD after destroying his office with a baseball bat.


Yow. Sounds like the place was a lot of laughs. Free Zoogz Rift!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Wrestling_Federation_(Herb_Abrams)

Still less fucked up though than Stampede was when Dynamite Kid was running the place.

This is not accurate. Herb Abrams paid Dr. Death to beat Steve Ray up in the ring because Ray was banging Herb's wife.





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I am not sure about the new title name but I think the problem I have with it is a resistance to change, not the name itself. I'll revisit in a few months...if it matters.

Outstanding Raw but I hope they didn't blow their load and set expectations too high.

One of the things I like is the return of the no name jobber. I don't remember there being a lot of them, it seemed like lately they would throw Heath/Ryder/Bo/Swagger/ETC at someone being pushed.

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I just got around to catching Raw on Hulu. Damn fine show all around. The fatal four-way matches were good, but for me, Sasha/Charlotte was match of the night.

As a side note, I noticed that Cole mentioned Balor's accomplishments in professional wrestling, not sports-entertainment, during his entrance for the fatal 4-way. Kevin Dunn must have had a heart attack.


Sasha also went heavy on "women's wrestling" in her post match interview. My gawd things are a changing.

Bringing back the jobber role...a little out of character. Reminded me of one of my favorite jobbers in an odd spot.
https://youtu.be/qHLOwB2Xp38





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It's been ten years almost since Joey Styles did his epic pipebomb promo about the sheer insulting idiocy of calling them "sports entertainers" instead of wrestlers and the announcers being told not to call the moves by the names the wrestlers have given them. In reality it's merely a case of Vince finally catching on to the idea and going, "yeah, Joey was probably correct about this, it's OK to call them wrestlers again".





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posted on 7-27-2016 at 12:14 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Paddlefoot
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Originally posted by gobbledygooker
I'm gonna need some time on the "Universal Title" term. I don't love it but I definitely don't hate it. It kinda has an old-school feel to me (wasn't the UWF the Universal Wrestling Federation back when?)


I can't help but think of the Herb Abrams version of UWF (circa 1992ish), which included the great moment of Steve Williams kicking the snot out of Steve Ray (not Stevie Ray) on the behest of Herb for screwing him over in a coke deal. Herb died of an OD after destroying his office with a baseball bat.


Yow. Sounds like the place was a lot of laughs. Free Zoogz Rift!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Wrestling_Federation_(Herb_Abrams)

Still less fucked up though than Stampede was when Dynamite Kid was running the place.

This is not accurate. Herb Abrams paid Dr. Death to beat Steve Ray up in the ring because Ray was banging Herb's wife.


I heard drug deal, but it could be both.

On the jobber front, I can't help but think that some long-time indy guys would welcome the jobber chance. Personally, I've seen 3.0 (Scott Parker and Shane Matthews) job on ROH and NXT and both times they did a good job doing the job (basically making their opponents look great while having enough of their own personality to liven things up).





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posted on 7-27-2016 at 01:33 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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One of the things I like is the return of the no name jobber. I don't remember there being a lot of them, it seemed like lately they would throw Heath/Ryder/Bo/Swagger/ETC at someone being pushed.


Absolutely. That's an excellent gimmick in and of itself if they let Blown Strawpants or somesuch certified hoss tear though some no names for a few months and then when they want to debut a largely unknown guy they grab from ROH or wherever they can pull a Razor Ramon vs. 1-2-3 Kid upset for shits, giggles, and the "you never know what can happen in the WWE" factor.





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