CCharger
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PPV DISCUSSION: WWE Wrestlemania 33 (April 2, 2017)
There's lots of Mania talk on the Rumor Crap and Road to Wrestlemania thread, so why not get this fucker going now. I'm happy to turn this
over to The Rick and make this official.
Let's see how obtuse we can all get.
"She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted."
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williamssl
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I'm just thankful you posted a deadspin article about WM in its own thread.
Don't Mess With Texas
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Gobshite
The Great One 
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Universal Title: Goldberg vs Lesnar
To start with, I thought this had been a bit backwards for me. The heel shouldn�t be the one finally getting his revenge / win back at Mania. It just
felt wrong that as much as he�s getting cheered, Goldberg was getting everything handed to him for no reason. That�s what happens with the bad guys.
Then it dawned on me: Lesnar is walking out of this as the face. There�s no way in my mind that the Orlando crowd doesn�t boo the crap out of Reigns
and Goldberg. It�s the NXT loving locals in the cheap seats and the paid $3-7,000 for a weekend of wrestling smarks at the front. Last year was bad
for Reigns, this year will be worse for Goldberg.
I see a new dynamic forming this year, where much like the Austin/McMahon heyday, it�s going to be a case of the McMahons trying to get the belt off
Lesnar, and Lesnar just being unstoppable until Summerslam. Whilst I think he�ll be victorious in both matches, Lesnar vs Joe and Lesnar vs Owens at
the next couple of PPV�s with Lesnar as the face works well for me. Lesnar wins here.
WWE Title: Wyatt vs Orton
Another one that�s been hit and miss in the build up. I don�t think WWE really sees Orton as a legit world champion at this point in his career, so
I�d like to see Wyatt retain here � possibly with the help of Harper and Rowan, who have seen the error of their ways now that Orton has been exposed,
and Harper was right all along. Wyatt then sets Harper and Rowan �free� on smackdown, acknowledging that there will always be a bond between them, but
they can go make their own path (to the Uso�s). Wyatt Wins.
AJ vs Shane:
This is what, 4th on the depth chart? Started last winter with AJ and Shane clashing over the Team Blue survivor series team? Then he got annoyed that
just like Goldberg, Cena gets everything just because (although Cena has arguably earned his right to get these kind of matches). AJ wins, and as a
result Shane admits he needs someone else to shut AJ up, which leads us to AJ vs Nakamura over the summer. AJ wins here. We all win long term.
HHH vs Seth :
Everyone is expecting a Seth win / Joe interference, and Balor to return and even the sides. What if Balor returned to help HHH? It might take a Demon
to dethrone Brock. Let him run though Owens and Joe, then Demon vs Beast at Summerslam. HHH wins here, because he�s the game. He can lose when Seth
is healthy enough to do a full on clean match.
Undertaker vs Reigns:
Taker wins, Roman gets the respect treatment. Taker appears on SD this week to announce that next time you�ll see him will wrestle will be the site
the streak ended, and that�s as good a place as any to end the Career. Cena challenges him and we get another year long build.
Cena / Nikki vs Miz/Maryse
Miz & Maryse win. Maryse pins Nikki for the win, pushing them into main event level world title picture with Wyatt straight after. Cena returns after
his next layoff for title 17.
Womens Title: Charlotte vs Sasha vs Bailey vs Nia Jax
Charlotte and Bayley team up to eliminate Jax pretty quickly. Takes longer to dispatch of Charlotte but we end up with 10 minutes of Sasha vs Bayley,
complete with Sasha turn. Sasha Wins.
Tag Titles: Club vs Enzo & Cass vs Sheamus & Cesaro
Hardys win. Because why not.
IC Title: Ambrose vs Corbin
Corbin wins. Ambrose goes to Raw to reunite the Shield to stop people booing Reigns, and to make it 3 on 3 of Shield vs Club until they�re ready for
Brock vs Balor.
US Title: Owens vs Jericho
Owens. Anything else is wrong. Owens continues to be champion most of the time somehow � given some people didn�t think he�d amount to much in WWE,
he�s now an NXT, IC, US and Universal champ. Not Bad.
Andre 20 Man Battle Royal
Strowman. I�m guessing that�s why they�re putting it on USA network too, to get as many eyes on him as possible. I�d give him a US title run this year
too, as in 2018 they�ll need him to step up to main event level if Lesnar doesn�t renew.
CW Title: Neville vs Aries
Aries. They also need to use this as a sort of re-set on the division, and drop the stupid purple ropes.
Womens Title: Alexa vs �Everyone�
Or is it a 6 pack challenge? Either way, Naomi wins. This opens the Pre-show.
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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Highlights will be Owens/Y2J, HHH/Rollins, and AJ/Shane. The women's matches will be solid but not spectacular. The RAW tag team match could be
the wild card for a really good match because G&A; and C&S; can really bring it, and if they keep Enzo out of the ring as much as possible it'll
be more wrestling than goofing around. Same too possibly with Ambrose/Corbin, because the match a few SD PPV's back with Kallisto showed that if
paired with the right opponent Corbin can elevate his matches into something fairly entertaining. Bray/Orton has potential to be a solid HOSS-FEST!
sort of match as long as it doesn't get pulled down by too many of Orton's infamous rest-holds.
Everything else seems like a waste of time, just gimmick stuff of all flash and no substance. I'm tired of anything Reigns does being remarkable
only for the amount of booing he receives. Lesnar's clearly going to win if Goldberg's contract is finished, unless they've decided
that his "punishment" for the failed UFC drug test is that the only one he could never beat is Goldberg. That really isn't enough to get me to
watch this time around. Yeah, I'll be cheat-streaming it but my focus for Sunday night will be the finale of Walking Dead. Mania's just
not compelling enough this year for any emotional investment this time around. At five hours too? Fuck that. My bladder isn't strong enough
anymore for sitting through any program that long. 
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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nOOb
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I've only got two predicitions for the show because that's about all I care to muster for it (Walking Dead/Cubs Opening Day get priority
for me Sunday as well):
-James Ellsworth "accidentally" wins the Smackdown Women's Title. They establish "anyone can enter" early and often, a surprise entrant
later, and Ellsworth, in the process of helping Carmella, fall on someone and pins them to win.
-Big Show wins the Andre Battle Royal. Bleacher Report has an article about him retiring and winning the least important match ever created, but
still a match at Wrestlemania, seems like the appropriate send-off.
"The Seahawks are cool. Me and Tubby here hung out with them once at a Bruno Mars concert."-Jay and Silent Bob representing the Broncos on FOX NFL
Sunday.
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Gobshite
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He's not retiring, he just said this Mania will be his last.
They've changed the "Bliss vs Everyone" to a six pack challenge of bliss vs Carmella, Natalya, Becky, Mickie James and Naomi.
So now you don't care about any of it! You're welcome.
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Paddlefoot
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I lost a lot of my ability to care when Roman came out as #30 in the Royal Rumble. 
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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GodEatGod
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Ellsworth isn't winning the Women's belt - they already teased the idea of a man trying to enter with Tyler Breeze in drag on Tuesday and
Daniel Bryan shut it down.
These are my predictions. I copied/pasted from my FB page. I only mention that because I have a lot of non-fan friends and I explained a little bit
more than I would for a smarky audience.
The Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal: AKA everyone else who didn't make the other matches all in one go. Braun Strowman is the favorite on
the street, but I'm going to go for the underdog this year and pick Sami Zayn to win.
Cruiserweight Championship - Neville (c) vs. Austin Aries - AA should pick up the win and the match should be excellent. Neville's been a good
champ, but he's gone through the top face challengers for now.
Smackdown Women's Championship - Alexa Bliss (c) vs. Naomi vs. Becky Lynch vs. Mickie James vs. Natalya vs Carmella: Smart money says Naomi
picks up the win in her hometown for a feel good moment and I can't disagree.
RAW Tag Team Championship - Ladder Match - Gallows & Anderson (c) vs. Enzo & Big Cass vs. Cesaro & Sheamus: The ladder stip should make the match much
more entertaining. Rumors of the Hardy Boys making their grand return hang over this one, but I think they hold Matt & Jeff back at least until RAW
the next night. Their arrival, however, is why I think Gallows & Anderson retain to give them heels to fight.
Intercontinental Championship - Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Baron Corbin: Corbin's an up and comer and Dean's just kind of cruising with the
belt, so let's go with Corbin.
U.S. Championship - Chris Jericho (c) vs. Kevin Owens: One of the best built matches on the card, with the potential to steal the show. The former
best friends have been building to this match for months and it should be a hell of a fight. Owens takes the belt.
A.J. Styles vs. Shane McMahon: A complete waste of AJ's incomparable wrestling ability. Shane will probably do something stupid and throw
himself off the giant ramp they're building through a table or something. AJ should win.
John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse: A hot feud with a lot of vicious trash talk. Common sense says Cena & Nikki destroy them and, again, not
going to argue with it.
RAW Women's Championship: Bayley (c) vs. Charlotte Flair vs. Sasha Banks vs. Nia Jax: This will all clearly lead eventually to Sasha turning
heel and feuding one on one with her best friend and partner, Bayley. I think Bayley wins here to trigger Sasha's jealousy turn on RAW the
following night. Bayley retains.
Unsanctioned Match - Seth Rollins vs. Triple H: My favorite match on the card, the feud in which I'm most invested. Could easily steal the show
and will certainly be a crazy brawl. Rollins knee injury may limit them and will certainly figure into a lot of HHH's ring psychology. I expect
Samoa Joe to interfere on HHH's behalf at some point (and setting up Seth's next feud post-WM). Still, I think Seth wins after taking a
hellacious beating, possibly using HHH's own sledgehammer against him.
The Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns: Fans will boo, fans will bitch, but there's no logical outcome to this other than Roman pinning Taker clean.
Otherwise, you wouldn't do the match at all. Will it trigger an actual Reigns heel turn? I doubt it - but for the night, he'll be the
biggest heel in the house and I expect him to play into it while he can.
WWE Championship - Bray Wyatt (c) vs. Randy Orton: This has been a weird feud, with Orton burning down Bray's house and Bray rubbing dead
people's ashes on his face and lots of hallucinatory jibber jabber and supernatural mumbo jumbo. Still, two solid workers who can make a great
match together. I'm picking Bray to retain his title.
WWE Universal Championship - Goldberg (c) vs. Brock Lesnar: Yes, somehow, 51 year old Bill Goldberg is a world champion in 2017. This will almost
certainly be Goldberg's last match. I doubt it lasts very long. He's annihilated Brock in their recent encounters, so I expect he gets a
taste of his own. Brock Lesnar wins and is your NEW Universal champion.
Bonus Predictions:
Lesnar only holds the title for one day and will lose it to a returning Finn Balor on Monday Night RAW.
Kurt Angle will end up doing something in-ring to go with his Hall of Fame induction and somebody will end up tapping out to an anklelock. Rusev would
be the obvious choice, but it depends on how severe his leg injury is.
The Rock will somehow shove his big bald dome in there somewhere. He hasn't missed a WM since 27.
"It is an impressively arrogant move to conclude that just because you don't like something, it is empirically not good. I don't like
Chinese food, but I don't write articles trying to prove it doesn't exist." - Tina Fey
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Nobledictator1278
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My Predictions for this show.
Neville over Aries : No reason to take the title off of Aries, he is killing it as champ. Neville is holding this title for a while.
Strowman wins Battle Royal : Because duh.
Womens Smackdown Title : Naomi wins especially with them announcing the entrants. I thought maybe Asuka but that seems to be a no go now.
Corban over Dean Ambrose : Dean is going to go heel soon, and Corban has been pushed strong, the title was taken off of Miz for this reason.
Womens Raw Title : I was leaning to Sasha winning with a heel turn, but I think Bayley retains and gets screwed over the following night on Raw by
Sasha.
Raw Tag Title Match : Im betting either the Hardy's are added to this match last second or ...they steal the titles. I think Big Cass is
leaving this tag team soon and wonder if he could be a member of HHH's stable.
Miz and Maryse over Cena/Bella : Because Miz will be neutured with a loss here, Cena is on his way out so is Bella..... you put someone over on your
way out...its wrestling rule. Miz is on fire right now. I can see Miz and Maryse as a future power champion couple on Smackdown.
AJ over Shane : Because they can't put a McMahon over AJ at this point AJ needs this win.
Goldberg over Brock in a longer match but I think Goldberg has a few more dates and will stay till SS to put over Reigns.
Owens over Jericho: Because Jericho is leaving and HHH's stable is going to reign strong tonight.
HHH over Rollins: Its unsanctioned and Rollins is injured..... if Balor gets involved maybe Rollins wins...but I think Samoa Joe is Rollins'
undoing here.
Wyatt over Orton: Because if he loses this, he has lost every major feud he is in ...he is due....
Reigns over UT : I know its trendy to say Reigns with a heel turn....I think it happens at the biggest stage of them all. I think Reigns is
HHH's third guy and the show ends with the new HHH stable of Owens, Joe and Reigns destroying the UT to show their new dominance. I think they
should add Charlotte to this group down the line (thats just my own 2 cents). WM needs a major moment this new stable will be it.
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Columbo
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So this was me bitching in the Elimination chamber PPV thread a month or so ago lets see how I feel about Mania now....
quote:
Originally posted by Columbo
Brock vs. Goldberg- would be a perfectly acceptable midcard hoss battle, yet its rumored to be the main event for the Universal Title.
Still not really feeling this is the best way to highlight the "most prestigious" title in the E, but on the brightside at least it will be
short.
Roman vs. Taker- isn't going to do the BIG DAWG any favors in his ever lasting quest for people not to shit all over him. Taker vs. Balor,
Styles, or even Cena would be a much better match than #BooRomanWins.
I honestly don't give a fuck Roman's not for me and although I've grown to respect The Undertaker through the years I've
never really been a fan of gay spooky stuff in my wrasslin. That being said I'm gonna get a nice chuckle out of Roman winning and Taker trying
to put Reigns over afterwards to a sea of BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS. p.s. I heard this supposed to be the main-event now I'm sure it will go well.
AJ vs. Shane O'mac- I imagine this will be fun and they'll both try to kill themselves for our entertainment, but its a waste of the
Phenomenal one.
My feelings remain the same
Cena and Nikki vs. Miz and Maryse- The Miz is on the best run of his life and deserves a high profile match, but it looks like they're going to
start this feud over a makeup mishap and that's just a big ole nope.
I was wrong, I was wrong, I was wrong the feud is amazing I LOVE it MAGGLE
Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyatt- It just doesn't feel like a Mania level Championship feud to me.
On the other hand this is so very much worse than I could have imagined...
Shaq vs. Big Show- The ceiling for this bad boy is entertaining clusterfuck sport entertainment spectacular, which I'd actually be pretty cool
with.
Not happening. Sorry Show enjoy the ATGMBR
Charlotte vs. Sasha vs. Bayley vs. Nia Jax- I'm in the camp that finds Charlotte more terrible than terrific, but really should be a one on one
match between her and Bayley so we can get Charlotte's stupid ppv winning streak out of the way.
Well they got Charlottes PPV win streak out of the way in the stupidest way possibe, so at least I don't have to worry about that.
Seth Rollins vs. HHH- I just hope Seth is healthy because I actually want to see this match.
hOOray
Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jericho- I love them both and hope they scrap this because my heart can't take these two best friends being angry with
eachother. 
Its still real to me damnit.
Other Stuff:
I'm looking forward to the Raw Tag Team ladder match. My heart wants Cesaro and Sheamus to win, but I'll be happy if Enzo doesn't
accidentally kill himself.
Aries vs. Neville- god I wish this was on the main show hopefully they at least get a decent amout of time.
Smackdown Women's Championship- they will probably put the belt on Naomi for reasons I guess, but me and Berto really need a win MR WWE please
let Kelly Kelly make a shocking return to pin Becky for the title me and RoyBoy have been good we NEED it.
Dean vs. Corbin- 
TheAndreTheGiantBattleRoyalForSupremeGigantictoodExtravaganza- Fuck it let Mojo win #WeStayHype
This all comes across fairly negative, but I'm actually looking forward to the show I think it has a chance to be a pretty good show plus the
from the pictures I've seen the venue looks amazing so Sunday should be fun.
[Edited on 3-31-2017 by Columbo]
"The North Cafeteria, named after Admiral William North, is located in the western portion of East Hall, gateway to the western half of North Hall,
which is named, not after William North, but for its position above the South Wall. It is the most contested and confusing battlefield on Greendale�s
campus, next to the English Memorial Spanish Center, named after English Memorial, a Portuguese sailor that discovered Greendale while looking for a
fountain that cured syphilis."
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Sam Is Neat
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Speaking of pictures...have you guys seen the giant ring on top of the actual ring? Hopefully they hold the Battle Royal in THAT ring and when you get
eliminated, you just fucking fal to your death and die until you are dead.
I'd watch THAT pre-show.
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Matte
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The WrestleMania 33 Pick 'em has been posted. With KVK seemingly out of
pocket, I went ahead and put it up. Hope there's enough time for everyone to make their picks.
"I'm a professional. I know exactly what I'm doing." - Jeff Hardy
The Multiversal MegaTurbo Ultimate Showdown Supreme of the INHUMANS~!
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Flash
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This will be the first WM I'll be missing in near a decade, if not longer... but alas I'll be on vacation and with the network being what
it is now I think I'll miss the evolving OO comments throughout the show more than I will the actual show which will be readily waiting for me
upon my return.
This WM feels... I don't want to say underwhelming as there is some good stuff on here, but a good chunk of it seems to be missing some sizzle,
or that the WWE left too many pieces floating a little too late and didn't quite get the recipe right.
*Goldberg vs Brock... does not need the title, and if anything it becomes a bit of a kick in the ass that the title was shifted to this feud at the
expense of, and in such of a confounding fashion, Kevin Owens reign. Are we going to get another match where the walk down the ramp lasts longer? I
mean the alternative and likely high water mark for this one is that if they do have an actual match between Brock's entire arsenal being
reduced to suplexes and Goldberg being... well Goldberg, is that we'll say well that was okay. This is a sideshow, spectacle match... not your
centrepiece.
*Bray versus Orton... The WWE got this one backwards... Bray wins his first title in a multi-man match and is overshadowed by Orton's is he or
isn't he storyline... had this been flipped and Orton won the title and Bray won the Rumble it would have done more for both the feud and Bray.
Bray retaining is probably a better option, but how much better would it have been had he won his first title at WM?
*Cena/Nikki versus Miz/Maryse... Good stuff here, and Miz has more than earned a showcase match at WM, but this seems to already be being overshadowed
by the whole Cena proposing to Nikki bit.
*Owens versus Jericho was potentially the feud of the year, or at least the best slow burn to get us to an A-class feud... taking the title off of it
has hurt it some, and once the Owens re-heeling trigger was pulled they seemed to stumble a bit.
*Tough to pin it on the WWE due to injuries which has taken the potential top 3 match of the night prospect from this one, but the long term feud
between HHH and Rollins felt like it was maybe started too soon, so this one was already a bit shaky.. I mean hurt or not, given how long HHH and
Rollins has stopped/not-started already isn't everyone a bit more psyched about the potential Rollins/Joe pairing instead?
*Reigns versus Taker has potential, and maybe if (really doubt it) Reigns goes full heel out of this it's worth it, but you are putting your
more hated over guy in a feud where he can't help but be hated all the more... seems like a strange way to continue building Reigns as a star.
This one has also suffered from are they, or aren't they going to do this one... and if they are, are they going to put a third guy in there...
ect. A third guy probably would have saved this one... Taker brings it at WM, but the guy is looking more broken down than ever.
*Shane and AJ feels like a plan B if ever there was one, and while AJ is probably the best active wrestler in the business right now, Shane is a spot
monkey... There'll be some holy shit stuff in here and it will probably be really good, but as a match it's good... as a feud it's
missing something.
*The ladies... I think for women's wrestling to be where it is at right now, a one on one match should have been done... Just an A-list level
grudge match. In saying that these might be some of the matches that I'm most intrigued by as I'm thinking we'll see some fun and
familiar faces in the SD match that who knows, might turn into something one on one down the line.
*Dean versus Baron... this could be good, but I just don't see them getting the time to shine.
*The Andre thing and 205 match being sent to the pre-show feels a bit short changed, but in saying that per JBL on the most recent Bring it to the
Table last years pre-show was watched by over 5 million people... so maybe a split between the perception that it's curtain jerking with
management having nothing for the guys who get that spot versus the reality that this is a strong lead in, or at the least something people check out
later.
It's a solid enough card on paper, but like I said the show just feels like something where they haven 't quite gotten the recipe right...
some stuff simmered too long, some was undercooked, others just had the wrong 11 herbs and spices (maybe that's how they got that Gold
stuff....). Might be when all is said and done once you've pushed your veggies to side or hid them under your hanky there might be some tasty
stuff out of the show
[Edited on 4-1-2017 by Flash]
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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* In what could be one of the biggest mark out/feel good moments for this Mania, it's been announced that Jim Ross will be doing the announcing
for the Goldberg/Lesnar match. Apparently the deal was in place for JR to do this about a month ago before his wife passed away.
* It's also now confirmed that the SD Women's match is back on the main WM broadcast and no longer relegated to the pre-show.
[Edited on 4/1/2017 by Paddlefoot]
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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CamstunPWG187
Man of a Thousand Holds
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The Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal: Braun wins. Who cares.
Cruiserweight Championship - Neville (c) vs. Austin Aries - Aries should win and the match should be really good. I just don't see this getting
more than 10 minutes, but Aries is a miracle worker in tightly-knit matches that get cut short, so I can't see this being anything that's
below "really good"
Smackdown Women's Championship - Alexa Bliss (c) vs. Naomi vs. Becky Lynch vs. Mickie James vs. Natalya vs Carmella: Didn't Naomi already
win the title recently? WWE books the women's title switches so frequently that I'm sure it'll go to somebody, Bliss will whine and
moan, and that'll be that. I guess if it's in her hometown, I'd pick Naomi, but WWE doesn't have a consistent track record
with hometown favorites. Heck, she's even decent in the ring these days. Plus, she's black, stacked and beautiful, and you can never go
wrong with that.
RAW Tag Team Championship - Ladder Match - Gallows & Anderson (c) vs. Enzo & Big Cass vs. Cesaro & Sheamus: Holy shit, this is a ladder match now?
Now I have a reason to care. This will probably open the main show, and be fun as hell. Cesaro and Sheamus GOTTA be happy about finally getting a
real spot on the Mania card. Anyways, I would love for Cesaro and Sheamus to get the duke, because really, creative doesn't ever have anything
for them as singles guys. But, I'm gonna call Gallows and Anderson, so they are cemented as a respectable heel team who can hang on to the
titles at Mania.
Intercontinental Championship - Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Baron Corbin: Ambrose is in a spot these days where it's easy to feel uninspired, and needs
something interesting to do. Get the title off of him and go with Corbin. If Corbin can have interesting matches like he had with Kalisto at TLC,
then hopefully being champ brings a different fire out of him.
U.S. Championship - Chris Jericho (c) vs. Kevin Owens: Owens all the way, and I pray it's as good as I know it can be. It's been built up
fantastically. Time to let these two dance at Mania. It'll be great.
A.J. Styles vs. Shane McMahon: A complete waste of AJ's incomparable wrestling ability. Shane will probably do something stupid and throw
himself off the giant ramp they're building through a table or something. AJ should win.
^Didn't need to change a word. Thanks to whoever I copied this from.
John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse: Miz has been taking some really nice shots at Cena and I have been enjoying the bits I see on youtube.
It's pretty hilarious and as someone mentioned this past week, these two really bring out the best in each other on the microphone. They really
have good on-screen chemistry and I hope it's a fun tag match.
RAW Women's Championship: Bayley (c) vs. Charlotte Flair vs. Sasha Banks vs. Nia Jax: Bayley, because Charlotte really doesn't need to win
after losing on PPV last month, and giving Sasha fuel for a heel turn sounds like a good change for The Boss. If it's elimination style, expect
this to be quite good and quite long during the end game. I hope the ladies dig into each other and I wish for it to be great. Nia Jax sucks and
should be eliminated first.
Unsanctioned Match - Seth Rollins vs. Triple H: This shouldn't be anything more than an intense-as-fuck brawl. Look for HHH to use some really
brutal leg work throughout the match and really do some mean shit. It's gonna be hardcore and has the potential to be a match where Vince might
OK some color. Common sense says Rollins should get the duke here.
The Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns: Will be fun to watch live. After it's over, I can't see it being a match that's worth much for
repeated viewings. Unless it has a killer endgame, that's probably gonna be the case. Roman should win, which should set up Cena vs. Taker in
Taker's retirement match next year.
WWE Championship - Bray Wyatt (c) vs. Randy Orton: Bleh. Kinda don't give a shit about Bray Wyatt anymore, mainly because of that whole April
2014-Jan 2017 thing with Bray Wyatt just never winning huge matches and largely being all talk on the mic with gradually less and less credibility.
Orton won the damn Rumble, somehow overcoming Reigns in a move that was akin to choosing your friends cat to be put down instead of your own, in that
it certainly was better that YOUR cat didn't die, but once it was all over, you're still sad about having to choose between both options.
Oh, and your friends' cat is dead, too. That sucks. Orton winning the Rumble was like that. Wyatt should win. I predict the match going
obnoxiously long and being ALRIGHT.
WWE Universal Championship - Goldberg (c) vs. Brock Lesnar: Lesnar should fuck Goldberg up and retire him. End of discussion.
Fun/Odd/Shitty/Surprise/Insane predictions for the evening:
-Nia Jax will somehow not be the first woman eliminated and will have a lengthy heat segment with Charlotte, beating down the remaining face.
-Enzo will get busted open in the ladder match.
-Rollins will tweak something in his match, finish it like a boss, and be out for 2-3 months.
-Braun Strowman winning the battle royal will be met with apathy.
-Ronda Rousey will be there in some capacity
-CM Punk will cost HHH his match.
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CCharger
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This is the least interested I have been in a Wrestlemania maybe in forever. Either way, here are my predictions:
The Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Braun wins. Or Big Show. Who cares really?
Cruiserweight Championship - Neville (c) vs. Austin Aries
This has the potential to steal the show if given the chance. Both of these guys have a lot to prove to the powers that be that they are big time
performers. Expect them to pull out all the stops to have a 5 star match. Either way, Neville retains.
Smackdown Women's Championship - Alexa Bliss (c) vs. Naomi vs. Becky Lynch vs. Mickie James vs. Natalya vs Carmella
Naomi is the hometown favorite but I don't think anyone else has a real reason to win here. Makes more sense to "legitimize" Bliss as champ by
having her go over everyone else in the division. Bliss wins.
RAW Tag Team Championship - Ladder Match - Gallows & Anderson (c) vs. Enzo & Big Cass vs. Cesaro & Sheamus
Someone had the fantasy booking of adding the Broken Hardys to this deal which would be...well, fuck. Outside of some crazy angle I think it might be
time for Enzo and Cass to carry the straps. I expect them win.
Intercontinental Championship - Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Baron Corbin
Rumors have had Corbin winning this thing for a long time. I think they are right. Corbin wins.
U.S. Championship - Chris Jericho (c) vs. Kevin Owens
This might be the only reason to tune in to Mania this year. Great storyline. Great build up. Both great performers. This is another potential show
stealer/classic. Jericho has always been the guy willing to do the job for the younger guys and I don't see any reason why he won't do the
same here. Owens is the new U.S. champ.
A.J. Styles vs. Shane McMahon A complete waste of AJ's incomparable wrestling ability. Shane will probably do something stupid and throw
himself off the giant ramp they're building through a table or something. AJ should win.
^Didn't need to change a word. Thanks to whoever I copied this from.
John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse
Talk about making chicken salad out of chickenshit. On paper, this is hot garbage, but everyone has done their part to make this actually interesting.
I expect Miz and Maryse to win and then, as rumored, Cena will propose to Nikki. But Nikki rejects him and leaves Cena dumbfounded in the ring. Which
will eventually lead to Cena needing to "take time off from the WWE".
RAW Women's Championship: Bayley (c) vs. Charlotte Flair vs. Sasha Banks vs. Nia Jax
What a shame that a match with these talented stars gets such a shoulder shrug from me. I guess Bayley wins?
Unsanctioned Match - Seth Rollins vs. Triple H
This could be really good if Rollins is fully healthy and they don't have to baby his leg. Otherwise, we will see a lot of punchy-kicky with
some tame backstage prop usage. Winner: HHH. Loser: All of us.
The Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns
This is just dumb. There is no satisfying end to this match. If Taker wins, you will have jobbed out one of your top young guys to a barely ambulatory
part-timer. If Reigns wins, you have further tarnished Taker's Mania legacy and the boos will be deafening. Vince will have to be very smart on
how he handles this finish. I expect Reigns to win, and I am hoping he does it by cheating so the loss for Taker won't be so acute, and Reigns
will finally turn full heel.
WWE Championship - Bray Wyatt (c) vs. Randy Orton
Frankly, who fucking cares? This will be a very solid, sound match but the build up to it has been bizarre and hard to follow. My guess is that there
will be some shenanigans involving Luke Harper, Erick Rowan and maybe Braun. Pehaps even some unexpected debut of Sister Abigail. The smart thing to
do would be to have Wyatt retain since he is your future. But Vince being Vince, Orton wins with the RKOOONW
WWE Universal Championship - Goldberg (c) vs. Brock Lesnar This match sucked the first time it headlined Mania. I see no reason why this should
be any different. Nevertheless, Brock wins.
"She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted."
"The powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned."
--- Stephen Miller, Trump senior White House advisor, Feb. 12, 2017
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punkerhardcore
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quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
This is the least interested I have been in a Wrestlemania maybe in forever.
Agreed 100%. Current excitement level for Mania:
Andre the Battle Royal-- you said it best. Braun or Big Show wins. But who cares? Apparently Big Show said this was going to be his last
Wrestlemania ever. Nice of the company to let him enjoy his last Mania in such a memorable fashion.
Neville vs. Austin Aries-- it's a shame this got shoved onto the preshow, but at the same time, hopefully that means they may have a
little more leeway as far as time goes. Aries looks like a million bucks here, but Neville retains.
Smackdown Women's Championship-- No surprise entrants or alumni in this one after all, I guess. Naomi wins because she's actually
been surprisingly over lately, plus she never lost the title, so why not.
Raw Tag Team Championship-- this match actually seems kick ass now that it's a ladder match. I expect all six of these guys to bring
their A-game, and I think this one could be a potential show stealer. I don't expect any Broken Hardys shenanigans*, although that would
admittedly be kick ass. I think Enzo and Cass take it. It's been a year now since their main roster debut... time to shit or get off the
pot.
*You know what would be a great little wink wink if the Hardys are indeed WWE bound very soon? If they had a drone show up at some point in the match
flying around the belts.
Intercontinental Championship-- Rumor is that Corbin is Vince's latest boner fantasy, so obviously he wins. No clue what this means for
Ambrose going forward, but for some reason it feels like nothing good.
United States Championship-- Best built match on the card by light years, and should kick all sorts of ass. Hopefully they make Owens look
like a brutal destroyer again. That said, Jericho retains. This just seems like one of those Mania matches where the guy everyone feels should win,
doesn't.
AJ Styles vs. Shane McMahon-- I don't think this will be the complete waste a lot of others do. I've always enjoyed Shane matches,
and still love his match against Angle. That said-- that match was 16 years ago. AJ obviously deserves better, but this is what we're stuck
with now, and I don't think either of these guys are going to allow themselves to look like schmucks in a bad match. AJ wins, duh.
John Cena/Nikki Bella vs. Miz/Maryse-- Like everyone else, I'm shocked at how well they've been able to build this one up,
especially in only a few short weeks. I really wish they'd touched on Maryse's history as an active wrestler, though, since it's
been a while and some may think she's just Miz's wife stepping in the ring with zero experience. John and Nikki win, then get engaged.
Live sex celebration may or may not also happen.
Raw Women's Championship-- All logic says this should come down to Bayley vs. Sasha, with Bayley winning. After that, Sasha snaps and
turns heel, beating down Bayley. That said, I could also see Charlotte winning with absolutely no logic or reason behind it, leading to more PROMOS
WHERE SHE ENDLESSLY TALKS LIKE THIS.
Seth Rollins vs. HHH-- this match just feels... off for some reason. I don't know if it's because Seth had such a crummy face run,
and seemed to be spinning his wheels. Or because HHH was largely absent from the build up for so long. Or because right when things heated up, Seth
got hurt and was gone for a while. But the whole build up has fallen completely flat. I'm going in with very low expectations, with the hope
I'll be really pleasantly surprised. Really, HHH should win this match. There's no way a healthy HHH, along with help from Samoa Joe,
should lose to a guy with a busted knee. But I'll still say Seth wins after someone helps him. If only there were two other guys in the
company who lend him some assistance... one of whom could REALLY use the popularity boost.
Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns Who gives a fuck. Here we go again with this dickhead getting his third year in a row of an undeserved main
event. The only way I have any interest in this match at all, would be if a bunch of the Europeans in the crowd were drunk enough to go nuts and go
full on soccer riot and destroy the stadium. Make it happen, fellas.
WWE Championship-- with a few tweaks, this match could have been pretty cool with some good build up. Instead, it's been laughably bad.
Orton wins his umpteenth title, and Bray will come out next week and talk about Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck.
Universal Championship-- Hey, let's take what's widely thought of as one of the worst Mania matches of all time, age both
competitors by 13 years and then make it a high profile championship match. Brilliant. Brock wins after a couple suplexes and F5s.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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janerd75
The Great One 
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quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
WWE Championship-- with a few tweaks, this match could have been pretty cool with some good build up. Instead, it's been laughably bad.
Orton wins his umpteenth title, and Bray will come out next week and talk about Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck.
Lots of delicious salt in that piss up yonder^. Bueno.
...Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck. - punkerhardcornette
BRAY WYATT'S SPOOKY DOOKY VARIETY HOUR - Illy P.
I expect a company that's basically a cluster of jock shitheads to act like a place that's run by a cluster of jock shitheads. - P. Foot,
Esq.
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First 9
The Rowdy One
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The Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Thery've swerved us with unexpected winners before. Probably going to go with that again with a strong NXT debut or a directionless lowercarder
pulling a upset. I'm not down on this match like a most. It's given us Cesaro replicating Hogan/Andre, Sandow getting a good moment
eliminating Miz, and the clusterfuck of special entrances fron Tatanka to Shaq. Going with Ziggler.
Cruiserweight Championship - Neville (c) vs. Austin Aries
If they get time, they'll be awesome. If they get 4 minutes, it'll be a shame. Going with Neville but Aries will still be the most over
face in the division and will likely win it in pne of the following ppvs.
Smackdown Women's Championship - Alexa Bliss (c) vs. Naomi vs. Becky Lynch vs. Mickie James vs. Natalya vs Carmella
I'd like for Bliss to win but I see Naomi winning back the Title she wasn't supposed to lose so soon.
RAW Tag Team Championship - Ladder Match - Gallows & Anderson (c) vs. Enzo & Big Cass vs. Cesaro & Sheamus
Time for Enzo and Cass to finally get their moment. It'd be beautiful for them to just drop the next night to The Revival but I'm veering
off into fantasy booking.
Intercontinental Championship - Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Baron Corbin
Shit like this is why I'll never be on WWE's side when crowds are being pricks. Ambrose is the most over fulltimer they got. Reduced to
putting over Corbin is a waste.
U.S. Championship - Chris Jericho (c) vs. Kevin Owens
Smart money is on Owens but who really cares about the win. This story has been great. Jericho wins and drives Owens to insanity or Owens gets the
ultimate villian moment by putting down Y2J at Mania after everything Jericho has gone through.
A.J. Styles vs. Shane McMahon
I feel some people think Shane McMahon retired after the classic Kurt Angle match. After that incredible match he went on to have a long number of
forgettable duds, never coming close to touching that classic . Now that he's old and had a bad performance last year, I'll safely predict
this an underwhelming showing with one or 2 big spots. Anyway, props to AJ. It won't be a classic but pinning a McMahon is a bigger deal than a
World Championship.
John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse
Another match like Owens vs Jericho. The characters are so hot that any result can be spinned in their favor. Win or lose expect the proposal and for
Miz to shit on it next Tuesday.
RAW Women's Championship: Bayley (c) vs. Charlotte Flair vs. Sasha Banks vs. Nia Jax
Sasha fucks Bayley hard midmatch and Charlotte wins(because Charlotte) seems obvious but who the fuck is left to challenge Charlotte? Asuka is the
only NXT wrestlers ready for an immediate call up. If Asuka drops the belt today, I'm predicting Charlotte wins. If not, I'll go with
Sasha.
Unsanctioned Match - Seth Rollins vs. Triple H
This built up has been baaaad. HHH screws over Seth Rollins. Rollins takes it in stride because Foley appeases him with a Title shot. Later on Steph
grants him some more. Then Steph randomly fucks him out of the Rumble. In retaliation Rollins crashes NXT and directly feuds with HHH. Ok, why was the
Authority giving him 3 to 4 direct World Title shots but made sure he couldn't enter the Rumble? Why did Rollins have to get fucked over twice
before growing a set? Thanfully they are flat out ignoring this set up and the main story is HHH wanting to put down a former pet project he deemed
defective and Rollins wanting to redeem himseld after being a puppet to a dick. Rollins wins because come on, let's just end it and move on.
The Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns
I am so hyped for this. The crowd is going to hot fire here cheering their assess off for Taker and booing the ever loving shit out of Reigns. I
really hope Taker is in good enough shape to atleast ride out the crowd like Hogan did in Mania X8. Reigns has been full heel throught out this entire
thing. He's made it clear that he's out to retire The Undertaker despite the fact that Taker hasn't really done anything to him. He
shitted on Shawn Michaels. He's done a number of sneak attacks. There's zero redeeming values coming from him. I think the heel turn will
happen. If not then it'll be glorious to see the crowd shit on the handshake/head nod of respect you'll know they'll have between
Taker and Reigns. This match is red meat for smarks.
WWE Championship - Bray Wyatt (c) vs. Randy Orton
I don't want to see it but I'm predicting Orton. Wether it's because WWE owes him after letting himself get bladed via elbow strikes
or it's just been too long without a Title reign I see them giving it to him.
WWE Universal Championship - Goldberg (c) vs. Brock Lesnar
Just have Brock win and mercifully end this.
After last year's shit show, I'm predicting they'll atleast do better than that.
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punkerhardcore
American Dream
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quote:
Originally posted by First 9
RAW Women's Championship: Bayley (c) vs. Charlotte Flair vs. Sasha Banks vs. Nia Jax
Sasha fucks Bayley hard midmatch
Best Wrestlemania moment ever.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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With the same move Lauren Phoenix used on Jenna Haze in Anal CumBowl XIV. 
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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janerd75
The Great One
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Lesbo sex is so elaborate and confusing. Not entirely sure why she's stomping on her dicklets here.
...Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck. - punkerhardcornette
BRAY WYATT'S SPOOKY DOOKY VARIETY HOUR - Illy P.
I expect a company that's basically a cluster of jock shitheads to act like a place that's run by a cluster of jock shitheads. - P. Foot,
Esq.
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Count Zero
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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^^^ made me lol. Dammit. ^^^
ETAndIStillDon'tDoPredictions.
[Edited on 4-2-2017 by Count Zero]
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Gobshite
The Great One
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quote:
Originally posted by Flash
This will be the first WM I'll be missing in near a decade, if not longer... but alas I'll be on vacation
You're doing it wrong. I watched NXT and Sunnerslam on vacation last year. What's better than chilling out watching wrestling?
I have six invites I can crash out for membership to pwtorrents.net - if you want one, U2U me!
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royberto
Showstopper
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quote:
Originally posted by Nobledictator1278
Miz and Maryse over Cena/Bella : Because Miz will be neutured with a loss here, Cena is on his way out so is Bella..... you put someone over on your
way out...its wrestling rule. Miz is on fire right now. I can see Miz and Maryse as a future power champion couple on Smackdown.
Miz
iswn't going to be neutered with a loss. He has been running his mouth for weeks and continues to do so despite Cena blowing every single
argument Miz made a part. Even after Cena and Nikki win, Miz will still continue to run his mouth like the heel he is. A loss does not matter.
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