janerd75
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Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Fucking livestreams aren't worth shit tonight. 
YOU MISSED PUNK'S RETURN?!?!
ETA: Owens/A.J. was great and I get the ending in the context of their program, but it ended leaving the crowd grumbling which I don't think is
planting the good seed vibe for the main event. Christ it's gonna sound like Reigns is there.
[Edited on 5-22-2017 by janerd75]
"It will happen when it happens and not a moment before." - Me
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Count Zero
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Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Fucking livestreams aren't worth shit tonight.
The best one I've found so far is en espanol. 
AYE NO ME GUSTA!
But Becky's hair was kinda funky. It's like she dropped the "steam" part and just went full "punk".
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DKBroiler
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You guys and your silly little wrestling bubble. Nakamura went on first at 8 PM because the Lebron's were starting at 8:30 and it's all
about that 18 to 35 male demographic.
Braun Strowman guy.
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janerd75
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Are you telling me the 18 to 35 male demographic doesn't appreciate a good ol' fashioned HOSSFEST? This country's done, man. 
Oh dear Lord Jesus, this ain't happening, man...This can't be happening, man! This isn't happening!
[Edited on 5-22-2017 by janerd75]
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Paddlefoot
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quote:
Originally posted by Count Zero
quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Fucking livestreams aren't worth shit tonight.
The best one I've found so far is en espanol.
AYE NO ME GUSTA!
But Becky's hair was kinda funky. It's like she dropped the "steam" part and just went full "punk".
1) Yeah, the Spanish ones are great, it's the English ones that are fucked. Oh well, Presentado por goya!
2) Beck's hair was perfect. Many 1980's fantasies returned when I saw what she'd done, from the background wasteland babes in Road
Warrior to Billy Idol videos to a very interesting, ahem, adult film series called New Wave Hookers. Keep it up, Becky, and I will too. 
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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Count Zero
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Originally posted by DKBroiler
You guys and your silly little wrestling bubble. Nakamura went on first at 8 PM because the Lebron's were starting at 8:30 and it's all
about that 18 to 35 male demographic.
If the analysts (Kenny Smith & Charles Barkley) are threatening to play board-games instead of watch a
one-sided beatdown (which, amazingly the game hasn't turned into), I don't think the WWEUniverse would've been planning their
evenings around it either.
Plus, the Warriors are 'Merica's team these days, cuz Everybody Hates BronBron.
ETPlus: the 18-35ers are used to watching multiple things on multiple devices at the same time, right? Like netflixing and youtubing and snapchatting
all at the same time? And doing all three of those things while they play LoL or whatever moba they're addicted to?
[Edited on 5-22-2017 by Count Zero]
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First 9
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Originally posted by First 9
On the other potential MOTY candidate, I'm thinking Owens/AJ will be more focused on creating a set up for future matches rather than going all
out tonight. There matches last year were good but forgettable. With that in mind I'm predicting a four star affair for tonight. I hope the
ending is Owens cheating or the pinned/made to sumbit each other at the same time but the ref ony noticed type ending rather than a lazy dq/count
out.
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janerd75
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What is all this Lebron and Warriors shit you dorks keep mentioning? Is it some new HBO show or something? Shiiit, I might dip to cable for Twin Peaks
myself rather than watch The Cunt and the Roidharajah.
"It will happen when it happens and not a moment before." - Me
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OORick
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The crowd was trying to care, with the smarks pretending to cheer for Jinder, and counting on the kiddies and moms to cheer for Orton.
At the 10 minute mark, the "dueling" cheers stopped dueling. Now, it is "LETS GO JIN DER" vs. "SEE EM PUNK."
Good luck with that, WWE....
Rick
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janerd75
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At least they're selling ZOMG ARM PSYCHOLOGY!!1!1 TBH, this isn't horrible, it's just Jinder vs. Orton.
ETA: Aaaaaand his arm is now healed enough to do the mat slap. 
ETA2: Well, points for doing something different. Dom, you can now go pick up your dick you ripped off and threw across the room and sew 'er
back on.
[Edited on 5-22-2017 by janerd75]
[Edited on 5-22-2017 by janerd75]
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Count Zero
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Originally posted by janerd75
What is all this Lebron and Warriors shit you dorks keep mentioning? Is it some new HBO show or something? Shiiit, I might dip to cable for Twin Peaks
myself rather than watch The Cunt and the Roidharajah.
Get with the sportsball, man! It's not a blowout!
P.S. The Twin Peaks theme is possibly my favorite piece of music ever. I just can't handle all the weirdness of the plot. It messes with my
mind, man. *talks backwards like that little guy from the show*
eta: Holy shit Orton just dropped that little guy on his head.
double eta: JINDERMANIA IS RUNNING WILD, BROTHER!!!!!!!! 
Sooo... Is that a record for fastest jump from "irrelevant" to "champion"?
[Edited on 5-22-2017 by Count Zero]
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First 9
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Silver Lining
We've been spared from Orton vs Corbin as a Main Event for the forseeable future.
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the goon
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Originally posted by the goon
Oh, and as for the match result...I dunno, I kind of feel like this is going to be a Cena/Sheamus situation where nobody thinks Mahal has a chance and
then he wins the WWE title. So I'll go with Mahal to win and then drop the title very quickly back to Orton.
Fuck, it hurts so bad to be right.
And I'd really like to know the mindset of the WWE here...Jinder was originally a midcarder who eventually got released. He's brought back
a couple of years later and serves as a jobber for six months (including losing to Finn Balor in two minutes the week before he got shipped to
Smackdown). And then he becomes WWE champion. What did they see in him in the past month that they didn't in the past five years? I guess
it's just trying to build a star for the Indian market?
Also, glad to see that the WWE title has gone from AJ to Cena to Wyatt to Orton to Mahal in four months.
Nash is only a few inches bigger than JBL and depending on how stiff he gets Punk should be able to take it. -JB King, meant in a totally non-sexual
way
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janerd75
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Originally posted by Count Zero
ETA: Holy shit Orton just dropped that little guy on his head.
My favorite part of the match! Especially after he made that face when he Brock Lesnar'd Vindaloo #2. 
Alright, The Rick, 'splain us outta this one.
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Paddlefoot
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Missed the chinlock mania (sorry Jinder, it's not your fault). As per Mansfield I opted
for another bath instead.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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the goon
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Originally posted by First 9
Silver Lining
We've been spared from Orton vs Corbin as a Main Event for the forseeable future.
Non-silver lining: 14-time world champion Randy Orton when he inevitably wins the belt back.
Nash is only a few inches bigger than JBL and depending on how stiff he gets Punk should be able to take it. -JB King, meant in a totally non-sexual
way
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Count Zero
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Originally posted by the goon
quote:
Originally posted by the goon
Oh, and as for the match result...I dunno, I kind of feel like this is going to be a Cena/Sheamus situation where nobody thinks Mahal has a chance and
then he wins the WWE title. So I'll go with Mahal to win and then drop the title very quickly back to Orton.
Fuck, it hurts so bad to be right.
And I'd really like to know the mindset of the WWE here...Jinder was originally a midcarder who eventually got released. He's brought back
a couple of years later and serves as a jobber for six months (including losing to Finn Balor in two minutes the week before he got shipped to
Smackdown). And then he becomes WWE champion. What did they see in him in the past month that they didn't in the past five years? I guess
it's just trying to build a star for the Indian market?
Also, glad to see that the WWE title has gone from AJ to Cena to Wyatt to Orton to Mahal in four months.
To answer the bolded question
succinctly: A-yup.
To answer it longly: I guess Vince realized they have a lot of "middle class" people with money to burn on merch, and it's a market worth
tapping & milking. But I still don't think Jinder is really "the key" to India. It might work better long-term if they got an actual person
from that country with whom the Indian fans can connect, instead of some Canadian guy who speaks the language and portrays a stereotypical "heel"
while spouting indian cliches like "maharaja", as opposed to "I am proud of my Indian Heritage, and am going to defend it in the face of
adversity".
Speaking of crazy outcomes: Holy shit, the Celtics won a game in Bron's Barn.
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First 9
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Originally posted by the goon
Fuck, it hurts so bad to be right.
And I'd really like to know the mindset of the WWE here...Jinder was originally a midcarder who eventually got released. He's brought back
a couple of years later and serves as a jobber for six months (including losing to Finn Balor in two minutes the week before he got shipped to
Smackdown). And then he becomes WWE champion. What did they see in him in the past month that they didn't in the past five years? I guess
it's just trying to build a star for the Indian market?
Also, glad to see that the WWE title has gone from AJ to Cena to Wyatt to Orton to Mahal in four months.
Hilariously, TNA might be to blame. With the more conscutive tours to India and the fact Impact beats them in Indian channels made them worried TNA
could cut a good piece out of that pie in the long run if they didn't focus more on that market.
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Paddlefoot
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Odd thing to compete with TNA over, considering TNA can barely run a show in the US, in an amusement park where they're probably getting one
hell of a discount on the building they use.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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Count Zero
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Oddly enough, "Indian TV streams" is where I catch Impact, when I manage to catch it. And, like, not only do they have the weekly live program,
they have a ton of "Best of Impact/Best of [Insert Superstar Here]" shows, pretty much every single day of the week. Sony Six (the channel-stream
in question) is like the TNA Network, at least when they don't have cricket going on.
WWE is on a different network, and nowhere near as much saturation as far as I can tell.
"It's a WWE tradition, to do something un-right." --Paddlefoot
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Jinder winning feels a bit like JBL's first title win all those back where (and JBL was probably more over at least in tag matches) the WWE
might be committing to putting the title on the guy first, then getting him over after the fact as JBL kind of d�buted a new gimmick right before
winning the title and came off the scrap heap for the most part benefitting from SD's need to make new stars.
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gobbledygooker
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Could it be that Orton was just stale as shit and everything he's done with Wyatt was awful and they just wanted something to provide a spike
and create some buzz? I think that's a strong possibility.
"Hulk Hogan have the sex with some dumb bitch on the TV. The girl smart if she make the $$ from his bald ass but she also desperate to have sex with
the howdy doody like Hulk Hogan. He worse than Mel Gibson and I think now %10000 he prove he have grasshopper dick and raisin balls." - The Iron
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OORick
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Originally posted by janerd75
Alright, The Rick, 'splain us outta this one.
Why am I on the hot seat?
Look: in SOME ways, this is Jinder reliving the JBL Trajectory, circa 2004.
The big difference is that in 2004, WWE was really desperate, and JBL wasn't a good choice, but he was A CHOICE. Eddie couldn't keep on
going with the title, the brand split and backstage makeover (this was the very earliest days of Steph taking over "creative" and Johnny Ace
replacing Jim Ross for developmental, so there wasn't a well of talent to plunder) didn't leave a whole lot of options, so somebody said
"Let's take JBL's random heel turn and pretend it's a total reboot and nobody will remember that he's a tag team/jobber
guy")...
That lack of options does not exist here in 2017, so the 'splaination is that WWE is willing to shoot itself in the foot in order to "get" the
entire collection of fans who "knew" Jinder couldn't be WWE Champ. To quote James Ellsworth, DUH.
Great, WWE, you got a moment of shock out of some of your more jaded fans. But you're the one with a bloody stump of a foot.
Also: I increasingly think WWE has planted audience members for all those "random" (and obnoxious) audience cut-aways. They tend to go to a small
handful of attractive-and-over-reacting people 4-5 times per show, which is very suspicious. And that's why they were able to create the false
narrative that Jinder's win was somehow the same thing as Brock beating Taker.... I know *I* was not jaw-dropped, or confused when Jinder got
the win. I was just rolling my eyes and sighing.
I think most fans were on that same page. That WWE would do this was in the back of our brains (as per goons prediction), but "There's this
stupid thing WWE could do, but I don't think they'll actually do it" is MUCH different from "There's no way this thing could
happen." Jinder beating Orton was very much the former, not the latter.
I guess the "upside" to all this is that JBL turned out OK in the end. Granted, he sucked for months and months, and killed ratings and sucked the
fun out of the room for most of his first reign, but by sheer brute force of WWE's throat-forcery, he had long enough to allow his credibility
and gravitas to catch up to his push.
To circle back around to my original point: unlike 2004, WWE didn't "need" Mahal to win tonight because they simply had no better options.
This is the deepest roster in the history of the company, and to randomly reach down and tell the fans this career scrubberoonie is the new WWE
Champion, instead of taking somebody the fans are already invested in and putting them in that slot, is sheer silliness.
Mahal isn't bad; he's just unnecessary. I don't have any desire to cheer against Mahal; I just have no desire to see him in a
featured role at this moment in time.
Sometimes, I wonder if WWE realizes that these are two different coins, instead of two sides of the same coin....
Rick
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cardscott5
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I'm happy Jinder won the title. He's definitely put in the work outside the ring. He's not great shakes in the ring still, but when
has that ever been a barometer for being champion? Brock Lesnar is the Raw champ for christ sake.
Also, Jinder being champ completely opens up the title picture. SD actually feels like the 'land of opportunity' when someone outside the
3 man title shot pipeline breaks through. It's not even like he'll be that bad a champ, at least he'll be on tv and giving effort.
Unlike other champions.
Don't hinder Jinder.
Paddlefoot - why are you fucking around with livestreams? Use periscope. Or just pay $10 like an adult.
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gobbledygooker
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I think my one argument against Rick's very-well-laid-out scenario above would be that Guerrero was fucking molten hot when they switched over
to JBL, which nobody wanted to see, whereas Orton is just a big cup of "meh" and there were quite a few cheers for Mahal with him losing tonight.
"Hulk Hogan have the sex with some dumb bitch on the TV. The girl smart if she make the $$ from his bald ass but she also desperate to have sex with
the howdy doody like Hulk Hogan. He worse than Mel Gibson and I think now %10000 he prove he have grasshopper dick and raisin balls." - The Iron
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