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Author: Subject: (NO LONGER SPOILERS) Smackdown Spoilers: Fuck the WWE Edition (In Which OO Wets Itself at News of Orton's Title Win)
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posted on 5-4-2011 at 03:43 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
(NO LONGER SPOILERS) Smackdown Spoilers: Fuck the WWE Edition (In Which OO Wets Itself at News of Orton's Title Win)

Moved by OORick on May 7, because this is a really long and in-depth thread, and moving it here will save us the trouble of re-typing all the stuff we already said over the course of the past week in the regular SD thread.

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*World champion Christian comes out and talks about winning the title at Extreme Rules. Mark Henry and Great Khali come out and demand title shots. Randy Orton then comes out and says he wants a shot too. Teddy Long comes out and says that he will let the fans decide and the fans pick Orton. Long announces Christian vs. Orton for the title tonight.

*Backstage, Khali and Ranjin Singh run into Jinder Mahal, who says that it was interesting Singh let Khali dress up in a tutu on Raw.

*Sheamus defeated Daniel Bryan in a good match.

*Backstage, the Divas approach Layla and thank her for getting rid of Michelle McCool but tell her that they haven't forgotten how she treated them. Layla says Lay-Cool is officially over and everyone is going to see a new side of her.

*Cody Rhodes comes out and discusses his match at the Extreme Rules PPV. He has bags handed out to make the crowd wear them on his head.

*Ezekiel Jackson defeated The Big Show.

*Layla defeated Alicia Fox. Kharma comes out. Layla backs away. Fox kicks her. She tries to kick Kharma again but instead eats a clothesline. Kharma nailed her with the Implant Buster. The crowd chants for another. She teases it but leaves.

*The Corre attacked Ezekiel Jackson and laid him out backstage, saying that he couldn't just leave them.

*Sin Cara defeated Tyson Kidd. Chavo Guerrero was on commentary. Chavo shakes Cara's hand after the match.

*Backstage, Todd Grisham interviews Teddy Long and asked him if he thought it was unfair Christian has to defend the World title so soon. Long said it's not about being fair, it's about giving the fans what they want. Long said that Raw had a WWE title bout the day after Extreme Rules and he's going to make Smackdown just as exciting and unpredictable.

*Randy Orton pinned Christian to win the World title. Orton celebrated and left. Christian sat in the ring dejected as the fans chanted for him. After he went to the back, Orton returned to remind everyone that when they go home, remember he is the new World champion.


Fuck'em up the ass with a 12 ft cactus!

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posted on 5-4-2011 at 03:44 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Fuck you WWE.
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[Edited on 5-4-2011 by C.MontgomeryPunk]





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posted on 5-4-2011 at 03:54 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
And here I thought the TNA spoilers with Chyna's return were just about the lamest thing I had read in a long time.

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posted on 5-4-2011 at 04:12 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
FuckFuckFuckFuckFuckFucFFuckuckkFuck

Anybody up for Orton v. Henry?!?

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posted on 5-4-2011 at 04:19 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Here's the good news for Christian: if his career path follows Kane's, he'll get a decent run with the title in 2023.





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posted on 5-4-2011 at 04:20 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I normally never read spoilers, but I was just on Wrestlezone and saw the headline "Huge title change at Smackdown tapings" and couldn't help but click on it, just because I knew it meant Christian was fucked. The good news? At least he didn't drop the belt to Mark Henry.

But seriously, I don't fucking get this at all. Outside of just being part of the Eternal Push Of Randy Orton, I'm wondering if this was done as some sort of "thank you" to Orton for moving over to Smackdown. Or maybe the WWE got cold feet about having Christian as world champion. I have no idea.

Either way, it fucking sucks.

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posted on 5-4-2011 at 05:06 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
It might not be all bad. Christian was sort of bumped up to that level with Edge retiring. It seems that Orton sort of turned heel with the victory, so maybe Christian can now get an organic build to the title rather than being hot-shotted to it. Or maybe I'm being way too optimistic here.

If I were Alberto Del Rio, though, I'd be pretty pissed off right now.

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On the one hand, the WWE planned on Edge winning at Mania and being SmackDown's top face. They never had the intention of giving Christian the title. At the same time, Orton has had a show built around him and is an "established" star so making it look like Christian was caught in an odd place makes it an easy way to get Orton as a legitimate replacement for Christian.

On the other hand...

FUCK THAT.

Christian was ready for a main event push PRIOR to joining TNA. He's over now. The Eddie push Rey got could have easily been put on Christian who has the ring and mic skills to carry a post-Mania run with the belt why the WWE sets things up for SummerSlam. There was no reason to panic. There was no reason Orton could not have been the top face on SmackDown, while Christian was built up to either build to Orton vs Christian...or the better option, have a heel beat Christian and then lose to Orton as SummerSlam.

Seriously, instead of having TWO faces who could carry a show (ala Austin and Foley, or Rock and Foley) the WWE deputed Christian or are forcing an over face to turn for no good reason. Either is just dumb.

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posted on 5-4-2011 at 05:48 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
This doesn't surprise me and it's why I didn't get too excited when Christian won the title.

The only way I will find this acceptable is if Christian takes a level in badass and ends up absolutely destroying Orton in a big time match.

Not asking for it to be a permanent thing, just that this ends up showing us once and for all that Christian can get the job done no matter the challenge.





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posted on 5-4-2011 at 11:53 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
In all fairness, I really don't have an issue with him dropping it to Orton. It is the dropping with no build that looks bad. Almost everybody gets a couple of weeks of TV and a PPV loss with the belt. Losing it in his first SD makes him look like a fluke.
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posted on 5-4-2011 at 12:26 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Or it makes the loss look like a fluke. Christian was worn out after ER and Orton took advantage. He's never not done heelish things, the crowd just started cheering him for them.

Hopefully Christian calls in his rematch at the PPV, Orton heels it up, and Punk causes him to lose- turning Punk face in the process and "proving his point" all along.

Or Christian gets squashed, and with Edge gone, leaves for TNA again.

I wonder if Christian knew this was the plan on Sunday. I wonder if the writers knew either.

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I don't even need to mention that this sucks (though I will anyway) but either way, I see a definite heel turn coming from one or the other of them. You just can't have them both as faces on approximately the same level. It's just a matter of which one they'll turn since both are pretty massively over at the moment.





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posted on 5-4-2011 at 04:21 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
SD! doesn't have any high level heels either, I could see Orton stay face, Christian heels, but will join the pack with Rhodes, Sheamus, Barrett, Henry. Dan Bryan, Sin Cara and Kane will be the top undercard faces.

Christian vs Orton, Bryan vs Rhodes, Sheamus vs Kane, Barrett vs Sin Cara could all work as feuds at the moment.





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I'll be perfectly honest: I expected Christian to lose the title Friday...but I expected it to be against the Undertaker when he decided he wanted to come back for another one of his temporary go's.





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Fuck Vince. Fuck Stephanie. Fuck Orton. Fuck anyone involved with this bullshit. And fuck the WEE.

I will go to the papers will this!

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I wonder if Christian knew this was the plan on Sunday. I wonder if the writers knew either.


I always wonder that myself in these kinds of situations. Did the creative team just come up to Christian backstage on Monday and say (in full "Lumbergh from Office Space" voice) "Yeah, um...we're going to need to take that title now. Thanks for keeping it warm for Orton. You're a great team player Christian."

The only silver lining I can see in this is if it keeps Christian in the main event scene, whether it's as a heel or face. If he's just shoved back down to the midcard, then the WWE has completely fucked everything up.

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Orton as the dickhead heel works better, and hopefully that's where they go. Christian comes out next week seeking his rematch, Orton says that after ER and last week, he's beat up, so no (crowd boos). he can even diss the crowd to make sure. Long makes the match for OTL instead. Orton attacks. Heel turn.

Or if Edge is still hanging around... Turn Edge & Christian heel. I wouldn't care that edge wasn't wrestling.

Either way, I'm guessing Orton V Chtistian is gonna headline smackdown until at lease summer slam.

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I should have seen this coming. I just didn't expect it this quickly. I hate this move and I refuse to try to make sense of it.
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Whatever happens, they did a great job of forever tainting the moment of Edge and Christian in the ring together at Extreme Rules 2011 after Christian's huge title win. Now we'll all be thinking "Yep, he lost it two nights later to Randy Orton."

Come to think of it, Orton beat Benoit for the title after Benoit's long-awaited (and similarly spectacular) win at Wrestlemania XX!

I'm sensing a pattern here..





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So you're saying Christian is going to roid up and kill his family and then himself?





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So you're saying Christian is going to roid up and kill his family and then himself?


I'm just saying if Christian starts looking like Chris Masters within the next month, they need to put his family in witness protection.





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Take this for what it's worth, but something I just read on Wrestlezone:

As many of you may now know, the top story on the internet today is the fact that Randy Orton defeated Christian at the Smackdown taping last night to become the new World Heavyweight Champion. After speaking to several key WWE insiders, WrestleZone can now provide details behind why WWE decided to book this major title change just days after Christian won the title at Extreme Rules.

To begin with, as we exclusively reported several days ago, Randy Orton is set to become the focal point of the Smackdown brand, and the entire Friday night show will be centered around him from both a marketing and creative standpoint. Orton's position on Smackdown can be compared to John Cena's position on Raw, as WWE looks at both talents as the creative centers of their respective brands.

Additionally, we were told that Christian's title win at Extreme Rules was done not so much as a "well deserved win for Christian," but much more so that a big moment could be made for Edge at the PPV. "Vince [McMahon] could smell, touch and taste a moment between Edge and Christian celebrating on PPV, and that's the major reason why Christian was awarded the title." This dispels any conspiracy theories that Christian was awarded the title to keep it on Smackdown, as we were told it would have been very easy for WWE to throw a third party into the Extreme Rules match which would have kept the title off Christian and still on Smackdown.

As to the question of why WWE stripped Christian of the title so shortly after his win at Extreme Rules, WZ was told that no one in WWE with any kind of influence values Christian as a top money draw for the company. Christian is well liked, and is considered, as we were told, "a reliable hand," but when it comes to being a top player in WWE, Vince McMahon has absolutely no faith in him.

Brian Gewirtz, who is the head writer on Raw, and also oversees the entire writing staff in general, which means he does have influence on the direction of Smackdown, is said to be a big supporter of Christian, but other than him, there appears to be no other members of WWE's top brass that consider Christian to be a major player. And yet, we're told by our key WWE insider that even Gewirtz wouldn't speak up for Christian as a top draw. "Brian knows Christian is a very entertaining wrestler," we were told, "but even he knows Christian should not be the number one guy on either brand."

As we said, however, Christian is still considered to be a quality worker and a reliable hand for WWE, and we were even told that a possible producer/agent position might be available for him when his wrestling days are over, but as far as Christian ever working at the top of a WWE brand, that seems to be a very unlikely possibility.

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So Christian had a really special, feel good moment that seemed to unite everyone winning his first title then three days later he loses it to Randy Orton in a match that had no build, had no logical reasoning.... other than the fans cheered loudest for Randy Orton.

That's the part that hurts.

Had Orton RKO'd Christian at the end of last week like I mentioned in the thread I could maybe have just understood it and the two men would have had a solid base to work on.

But how can you tell a compelling story from a match that only came about due to an impromptu "vote" from the live crowd?

I'm sick and tired of the WWE having seemingly lost the ability to tell a good story anymore. Challengers no longer emerge anymore, they are plucked out of battle royals or one night tournaments or even worse just a singles match with no back story or build either. So you're building a story from a previous story that had no build or back story either.

Rick keeps mention compelling episodic TV and there's little compelling or episodic at the minute.

If they knew they wanted to get the title on Orton to begin with they should have held off on crowning a champion until after Extreme Rules. Then you could run a story where a tournament is held over three weeks so there's actual time and stories to run with where Christian advances to the final and has the belief that now is his time but he is up against numerous World Champ Randy Orton and the doubts set in. Have an appearance from Edge to send him into the PPV full of confidence and you'd actually have a pretty enthralling PPV match with Randy Orton who is super over against Christian who has a good majority willing him onto his first title. Christian can come up short after he kicks Orton everything and Orton uncharacteristically acknowledges this by offering him his hand but Christian pushes him away and you're left wondering how Christian reacts to this defeat.

But no we'll be just left with a rematch of a match made only because the fans cheered loudest for one of the wrestlers.

Good work WWE

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