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Subject: OOfficial Discussion Thread for: RAW (February 22, 2016)
Frank Lloyd Wright
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posted on 2-23-2016 at 11:27 PM
I don't think that this is to believed, based on the source, but make of it what you will. I believe they are trying to keep him away from
those Northeast wrestling fans, if in fact he misses TV time:
WWE issued a breaking news alert on Tuesday afternoon announcing that Roman Reigns underwent surgery earlier today in Tampa, FL to repair a
"shattered nose."
Reigns was injured at the hands of WWE World Heavyweight champion Triple H in the closing segment of last night's RAW.
No timeframe has been given for how long Reigns will be out of action.
[Edited on 2-23-2016 by Frank Lloyd Wright]
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posted on 2-23-2016 at 11:52 PM
quote:Originally posted by punkerhardcore
His new problem now is the existence of Ambrose. When Roman had that first backstage interview last night, you could audibly hear the crowd chanting,
"we want Ambrose!"
This problem, just like the Bryan problem, is easily solved by having their doctor tell Ambrose that the next injury he gets is too severe for them
to, in good conscience, clear him to wrestle, let him try to get out of his contract for the next year, and, eventually, just retire after he refuses
to take a non-Roman threatening position with the company.
Granted, you may have to also do this with Seth Rollins, Kevin Owens, AJ Styles, Chris Jericho, Bray Wyatt, Luke Harper, Erick Rowan, Alberto Del Rio,
Sheamus, Rusev, Big E, Kofi Kingston, Xavier Wood, Neville, Cody Rhodes/Stardust, Kalisto, Sin Cara, Bo Dallas, Heath Slater, Curtis Axel, Adam Rose,
Kane, and everyone in NXT, but eventually Roman would get over. Until Ryback starts getting more "Feed Me More" chants than Roman gets actual
cheers, in which case you'd have to repeat those steps again with Ryback, Brock Lesnar, Big Show, the Dudleys, Shane McMahon, the Undertaker,
Goldust, Los Matadores, Darren Young, Damien Sandow, the recently unsuspended Titus O'Neil, the Ascension, and the Miz. Then Vince will finally
have his dream match for the WWE World Title between Roman Reigns and Braun Stowman, just like he always wanted.
But at least the Hall of Fame class of 2017 will be loaded.
[Edited on 2-23-2016 by nOOb]
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 12:44 AM
* Wow, WWE didn't take long in eliminating the boos that accompanied Roman's win.� I love how the "applause" shot had an Ambrose Asylum
sign held up right in the middle.
* Well, I suppose there could be worse matches than Lesnar/Ambrose.� Guess we know what the show-stealer should be.
* Awww... a lovely father/daughter moment.
* Steph conjuring some nice emotion.
* The hell?� Shane?� And since JBL is *SURE* that he's here to support the family, he will most assuredly be doing the opposite.�
* We also know which McMahon male has stock in Grecian Formula.
* Hey, Vince... compare the reaction your son got to the one your future champion got last night.
* Shane's wiping real tears away.�
* She doesn't know, does she?� Uh-oh.
* Shane's performance here is fantastic.
* So let me get this straight... Undertaker has the potential to lose two matches at Wrestlemania... Brock Lesnar & Shane McMahon?
* Detroit loves them some New Day.
* Booty-O's cereal?� They make sure, you ain't booty?� I rofled my waffles.
* Those double 450 splashes on the floor were insane.
* Roman's sad face is not very convincing.� Not the best promo from him.� Seemed very uncomfortable.
* Paul Heyman saying what the world has been thinking.� If you think HHH/Reigns is the main event...
* That was an awesome segment.
* Jim Harbaugh could be a pro wrestler.
* Why is Chris doing AJ's promo for him?
* Heath & Bo were funny.
* That started slow, but it was quite the finish.�� Positive start to Y2AJ.
* Poor Goldust.
* They really want to give us this match again?� Oh, Bray's in this one.� Whee?
* Big Show was laughing at that Gillberg chant.
* What's the point of Ryback leaving?
* Oh, good grief.� Ryback trying to be tough guy again.
* Sasha needs to come up with a name for that high Thesz press.� May I suggest Safecracker.
* Is this the 3rd or 4th recap of the 1st segment?
* So this match is really happening.� I guess the only thing to do now is to book a water balloon fight between Shane's boys and Steph's
girls so every McMahon can have a WM match.� Balloon-a-mania is running wild!!!!
* Is this really the Main Event?� Ah, I guess we need to learn to be disappointed by final segments for the next month.
* "Look, there's dueling chants, just like Cena!"� "But Vince, Cena earned this over 6-8 years."� "Even better!� He's done it
faster!"� "Vince, that's not how it works."
* HHH getting the cheers.� Roman getting the boos (mostly).
* The heel champion cheered after bloodying, impaling, and skull-smashing his face challenger.� Oy.
I do NOT love RKO, you sarcastic bastards.
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 12:51 AM
quote:Originally posted by Frank Lloyd Wright
I don't think that this is to believed, based on the source, but make of it what you will. I believe they are trying to keep him away from
those Northeast wrestling fans, if in fact he misses TV time:
WWE issued a breaking news alert on Tuesday afternoon announcing that Roman Reigns underwent surgery earlier today in Tampa, FL to repair a
"shattered nose."
Reigns was injured at the hands of WWE World Heavyweight champion Triple H in the closing segment of last night's RAW.
No timeframe has been given for how long Reigns will be out of action.
And now Roman Reigns has posted a "post-surgery" pic on his Twitter:
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 01:28 AM
Be a man, borrow a face mask from Cody or Trish, and get back in the goddamn ring.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 01:39 AM
Looks like he borrowed something from Trish in that photo, just wasn't a mask.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 01:45 AM
quote:Originally posted by punkerhardcore
Looks like he borrowed something from Trish in that photo, just wasn't a mask.
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 02:05 AM
I know Reigns winning is the obvious conclusion but the pieces can also look to be set up to give the Authority a reason to stick around after Shane
wins. Shane gets control of RAW but HHH remains a thorn on his side as the WWE Champion. Do it for the long enough and you can make a mega Main Event
for Summerslam, HHH defending against the personally endorsed by Shane O Mac, Seth Rollins!
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 02:24 AM
quote:And now Roman Reigns has posted a "post-surgery" pic on his Twitter:
Someone needs to tell him not to jam the blood capsule up his nose.
[Edited on 24-2-16 by vonLampertheim]
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 03:49 AM
quote:Originally posted by punkerhardcore
Looks like he borrowed something from Trish in that photo, just wasn't a mask.
So do Roman and Dean recreate this scene?
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 05:03 AM
quote:Originally posted by bigfatgoalie
quote:Originally posted by punkerhardcore
Looks like he borrowed something from Trish in that photo, just wasn't a mask.
So do Roman and Dean recreate this scene?
I have zero recollection of what any of this is from...anyone care to enlighten my fuzzy memory?
And on the subject of this whole Reigns thing, I have two main thoughts: one, the WWE is just setting him up to be hated even more with this whole
fake broken nose/surgery thing. This isn't 1976 or 1986 or 1996 anymore...people are going to smell bullshit a mile away and if you look at the
comments on his Twitter pic, people are already talking about it being fake. Two, it's just so strange that the WWE would willingly remove the
guy they handpicked for the main event of WrestleMania from TV just so he doesn't get the shit booed out of him for the next month. It's
kind of hard to fathom the rationale of thinking "well, this is the guy we believe in as the top face of our company and we're going to put him
in the main event of WrestleMania for the second year in a row...buuuuutttttt, most of the live audience boos him so much that we're just gonna
keep him off of TV for most of the buildup to WrestleMania."
For everyone's sake, I hope Roman comes back next Monday and they do their best to sweep this fake injury angle under the rug.
Nash is only a few inches bigger than JBL and depending on how stiff he gets Punk should be able to take it. -JB King, meant in a totally non-sexual
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 05:26 AM
It was from a riff they did when ABC did a skit to open Monday Night Football with one of the Desperate Housewives in an NFL locker room looking for
some of the big-C. Full clip below:
Also, Sasha with the nifty move of the night.
[Edited on 2/24/2016 by Paddlefoot]
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 06:35 AM
quote:Posted by CamstunPWG187
Slade, it's been a long time..... but come on, we all know, deep down, you're a Reigns fanboy. You may not want to come out and admit it,
but really, it creeps in with comments like "He's worked his ass off"...and I say phooey.
After WM last year, he had a pretty good match with Big Show at the next PPV and then i don't remember a match he had up until Fastlane the
other night. He had a program with Wyatt, if I remember correctly, but don't even remember when that was. All of his matches have been just
"OK" and he hasn't stood out to me as anyone who has "worked their ass off" the way a guy like Kevin Owens, Cena, or even
Rollins.
Cam,
You do know that it is possible for someone to work their ass off and not be the best at what they do, don't you? Not everyone can be the best
at what they do. Not everyone who gives it their all can be an all-star. Like in baseball, just because one guy is a utility infielder destined for a
life of riding the bench doesn't mean he doesn't work as hard as the cornerstone of franchise. One guy is busting his ass to stay in the
big leagues while the other is busting his ass to win awards and break league records. There are others still who aren't spectacular, but have
the potential and the tools to do that. Some of them never get there and others do.
So who are you to say that Reigns hasn't worked as hard as Kevin Owens, John Cena or Seth Rollins just because he's not as good as they
are at his job? You don't know that he hasn't, just as much as I don't know that he has. However, I feel confident saying that he
has worked his ass off because he has improved as an in-ring performer over the last year. He's consistently solid now, whereas he lacked the
consistency to put on decent matches over a year ago. Moreover, he has learned to do the little things that separate the best performers from the okay
ones. On Monday, he was selling the left arm throughout the entire match and never used it to execute any offense. That's one of those things
you look for in a good performer. He was doing it.
Does Reigns work as hard as Owens, Cena or Rollins? Maybe. We don't know. Is he as good as any of them? No, I wouldn't say that he is as
good as any of them at his job. However, I recognize that he's made great strides to improve in the ring, which leads me to believe that he is
busting his ass to get better all of the time.
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 06:55 AM
quote:Originally posted by nOOb
quote:Originally posted by punkerhardcore
His new problem now is the existence of Ambrose. When Roman had that first backstage interview last night, you could audibly hear the crowd chanting,
"we want Ambrose!"
This problem, just like the Bryan problem, is easily solved by having their doctor tell Ambrose that the next injury he gets is too severe for them
to, in good conscience, clear him to wrestle, let him try to get out of his contract for the next year, and, eventually, just retire after he refuses
to take a non-Roman threatening position with the company.
Granted, you may have to also do this with Seth Rollins, Kevin Owens, AJ Styles, Chris Jericho, Bray Wyatt, Luke Harper, Erick Rowan, Alberto Del Rio,
Sheamus, Rusev, Big E, Kofi Kingston, Xavier Wood, Neville, Cody Rhodes/Stardust, Kalisto, Sin Cara, Bo Dallas, Heath Slater, Curtis Axel, Adam Rose,
Kane, and everyone in NXT, but eventually Roman would get over. Until Ryback starts getting more "Feed Me More" chants than Roman gets actual
cheers, in which case you'd have to repeat those steps again with Ryback, Brock Lesnar, Big Show, the Dudleys, Shane McMahon, the Undertaker,
Goldust, Los Matadores, Darren Young, Damien Sandow, the recently unsuspended Titus O'Neil, the Ascension, and the Miz. Then Vince will finally
have his dream match for the WWE World Title between Roman Reigns and Braun Stowman, just like he always wanted.
But at least the Hall of Fame class of 2017 will be loaded.
[Edited on 2-23-2016 by nOOb]
Ahhhh, we're moving on to Plan C: "Fire the whole fucking lot of them to get Roman over by default."
But seriously? That's a fantastic post. Do we have a "Post of the Year" thread yet? I realize it's still Early Days of 2016, but.. The
sheer attention to detail, PLUS the HoF Class line to close it out. The power of Janerd compels me: (etfix spelling doh)
[Edited on 2-24-2016 by Count Zero]
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 12:52 PM
quote:Originally posted by Slade
You do know that it is possible for someone to work their ass off and not be the best at what they do, don't you? Not everyone can be the best
at what they do. Not everyone who gives it their all can be an all-star. Like in baseball, just because one guy is a utility infielder destined for a
life of riding the bench doesn't mean he doesn't work as hard as the cornerstone of franchise....
....Does Reigns work as hard as Owens, Cena or Rollins? Maybe. We don't know. Is he as good as any of them? No, I wouldn't say that he is
as good as any of them at his job.
So using your analogy, Reigns has the ability of a utility infielder (whatever that is - I'm British), but against all logic is still being
positioned as the cornerstone of the franchise. Gee, I wonder why he gets booed so much? You know that guy at work who gets the big promotion, even
though he's shit at his job, just because he knows the right people? I would guess most of us do, as do a high proportion of the live crowd it
seems.
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 04:57 PM
"The power of Janerd compels me."
Testify.
Stay wet my friends.
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 05:42 PM
"Kid, you got this thing. The stuff. The shit. The fuckin' grit, you got it, like me. But like me, that's all you fuckin' got. And
like me, you're no good to anyone doing anything else. All I'm saying is don't go trying to be a human being. You'll get your
fuckin' heart ripped out." - Ross "The Boss" Muthafuckin' Rhea, Master of Fucking Guys Up 101.
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 06:04 PM
quote:Originally posted by Count Zero
But seriously? That's a fantastic post. Do we have a "Post of the Year" thread yet? I realize it's still Early Days of 2016, but.. The
sheer attention to detail, PLUS the HoF Class line to close it out.
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 08:39 PM
quote:Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Also, Sasha with the nifty move of the night.
[Edited on 2/24/2016 by Paddlefoot]
Agree! I don't know how she doesn't break an ankle. Still waiting on the Naomi entrance GIF - she did a jumping split over the top
rope...impressive
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posted on 2-24-2016 at 11:09 PM
quote:Originally posted by Planet Starbucks
quote:Originally posted by Slade
You do know that it is possible for someone to work their ass off and not be the best at what they do, don't you? Not everyone can be the best
at what they do. Not everyone who gives it their all can be an all-star. Like in baseball, just because one guy is a utility infielder destined for a
life of riding the bench doesn't mean he doesn't work as hard as the cornerstone of franchise....
....Does Reigns work as hard as Owens, Cena or Rollins? Maybe. We don't know. Is he as good as any of them? No, I wouldn't say that he is
as good as any of them at his job.
So using your analogy, Reigns has the ability of a utility infielder (whatever that is - I'm British), but against all logic is still being
positioned as the cornerstone of the franchise. Gee, I wonder why he gets booed so much? You know that guy at work who gets the big promotion, even
though he's shit at his job, just because he knows the right people? I would guess most of us do, as do a high proportion of the live crowd it
seems.
You just hit the nail right on the head. I appreciate the "bit part" players in real-sports more than a lot of sportsfans (for those who know &
care, I'm a Blue Jays fan, and I'm really sad they lost Muninori Kawasaki to free-agency), but even I realize that you can't build
your franchise around some dude who is a Pretty Okay Guy without inviting a lot of what-the-fuck from your fanbase.
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posted on 2-25-2016 at 12:34 AM
quote:Originally posted by Planet Starbucks
quote:Originally posted by Slade
You do know that it is possible for someone to work their ass off and not be the best at what they do, don't you? Not everyone can be the best
at what they do. Not everyone who gives it their all can be an all-star. Like in baseball, just because one guy is a utility infielder destined for a
life of riding the bench doesn't mean he doesn't work as hard as the cornerstone of franchise....
....Does Reigns work as hard as Owens, Cena or Rollins? Maybe. We don't know. Is he as good as any of them? No, I wouldn't say that he is
as good as any of them at his job.
So using your analogy, Reigns has the ability of a utility infielder (whatever that is - I'm British), but against all logic is still being
positioned as the cornerstone of the franchise. Gee, I wonder why he gets booed so much? You know that guy at work who gets the big promotion, even
though he's shit at his job, just because he knows the right people? I would guess most of us do, as do a high proportion of the live crowd it
seems.
Planet Starbucks,
I like how you only quoted the parts of my post to suit your narrative. It makes it look like I was saying that Roman Reigns is bad at his job, when
in fact what I was saying is that he's not as good at it as these other guys, but that he has improved considerably over the last year and that
he has "the potential and the tools" to become as good as they are. Good job. You're really good at this internet stuff.
While Reigns might not be the best at his job, he is good at it and he continues to get better at it all the time. He's not getting promoted in
spite of him being bad at his job because he isn't bad at his job. He's getting promoted because the right people see something more in
him and they believe in him. Does that make him worthy of getting promoted to the top of the mountain? No, I don't think so. I believe it is a
flaw in the system. We've seen it in the past, when the boss has picked guys simply for having potential long before they have fully achieved
it. John Cena and Randy Orton are great examples of guys who were loaded with potential, but who were rushed to the top before they were finished
products. Like them, Reigns has it and now he's getting rushed to the top before he's a finished product. If that is a problem, it
isn't his fault, rather it is the fault of those who chose to take chances on these guys before many of us think that they are ready or when
many of us think that there is at least one better option to elevate into that spot.
Edited to add:
quote:Posted by Count Zero
You just hit the nail right on the head. I appreciate the "bit part" players in real-sports more than a lot of sportsfans (for those who know &
care, I'm a Blue Jays fan, and I'm really sad they lost Muninori Kawasaki to free-agency), but even I realize that you can't build
your franchise around some dude who is a Pretty Okay Guy without inviting a lot of what-the-fuck from your fanbase.
No, you can't build your franchise around Munenori Kawasaki. That would be like building your franchise around Heath Slater. He's fun to
have around, but that's about it. On the other hand, you can justifiably build the future of your franchise around a guy who is an above average
contributor and who has the potential to become an elite player, like Marcus Stroman.
[Edited on 2-24-2016 by Slade]
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posted on 2-25-2016 at 07:02 AM
quote:Originally posted by Slade
No, you can't build your franchise around Munenori Kawasaki. That would be like building your franchise around Heath Slater. He's fun to
have around, but that's about it. On the other hand, you can justifiably build the future of your franchise around a guy who is an above average
contributor and who has the potential to become an elite player, like Marcus Stroman.
[Edited on 2-24-2016 by Slade]
A lot of people see Roman Reigns as being perfectly average with average potential. Marcus Stroman is going into his 2nd full year of being a
starting pitcher in Major League Baseball. If you're building around that sort of an unknown quantity & not backing it up with anything else...
You're still going to get what-the-hells from many corners. That's why they've tried (we'll see how it works) to round out
the pitching staff with guys who can pick up the ball & run with it if Stroman fizzles in his sophmore/junior year.
Or, to bring it back to Roman: He's on his third year of "Being a starter" and gets hit out of the park regularly, when he's not
walking guys left & right. Why would he be my ace? Right now, he's best suited for "long relief" (the midcard) with the hopes that MAYBE
he'll figure out another pitch or two, or lock in his accuracy, or maybe experiment with velocity, or just basically ANYTHING to be more
valuable in the eyes of "those who understand these things". In cricket terms, he's not my bowler at the death of the innings. In basketball
terms, he's not my clutch go-to shooter. In football terms, he drops way too many passes to be the primary receiver. Etc Etc Etc. But the E
are presenting him like he IS the best option, and it's leading to a lot of what-the-hellification.
What's that saying about potential? Potential and a ten dollar bill will get you a coffee at Starbucks? Or maybe not even that, these days.
It's been a while since I frequented the local Sixbucks. To put it in terms of physics, for those scientifically minded, potential energy has
to be turned into kinetic energy at some point. Roman's not kineticized.
PS. Kawasaki lets the good times roll!
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posted on 2-28-2016 at 03:27 AM
quote:Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Also, Sasha with the nifty move of the night.
quote:Originally posted by Dominator
* Sasha needs to come up with a name for that high Thesz press.� May I suggest Safecracker.
I do NOT love RKO, you sarcastic bastards.
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posted on 2-28-2016 at 03:38 AM
quote:Originally posted by Dominator
* Sasha needs to come up with a name for that high Thesz press.� May I suggest Safecracker.
I'll send Sasha money via PayPal if she names it the CrackerCracker.*
*(n/a on Naomi)
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posted on 2-28-2016 at 03:38 AM
quote:Originally posted by Dominator
quote:Originally posted by Dominator
* Sasha needs to come up with a name for that high Thesz press.� May I suggest Safecracker.
Howbout the R.O.I. (Return on Investment)? She's not a "thief". She's got the "Banks Statement", not "Robbing the Banks". If she
ever adds a flippyfloppy move, it could be "The Bankroll", and so on. The Boss doesn't need to steal. She's a savvy money-maker in
other ways.
