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Author: Subject: OOfficial Discussion Thread for: RAW (March 14, 2016)
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posted on 3-15-2016 at 05:09 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
The tumour must be pressing down on more nerve endings than previously because I have no idea why I even said that.





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posted on 3-15-2016 at 05:50 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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The tumour must be pressing down on more nerve endings than previously because I have no idea why I even said that.


And you typed it too?!?



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posted on 3-15-2016 at 06:11 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
This is how awful and dumb the booking is. They had a no doubt, softball-served-up way to get Roman at least some cheer... and they didn't take it. What the fuck?

I mean... Jesus. I always figured the booking team was just oblivious and/or stubborn, but that they truly believed they were doing what they thought would get Roman over. Tonight, it's like they were malicious and wanted him to get booed on purpose.





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posted on 3-15-2016 at 06:47 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Well Roman didn't help himself any. Roman is beyond pissed off...can't contain himself to referees and officials.....but can high five a kid (which is great I love when they do that for kids, but this wasn't that time)
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posted on 3-15-2016 at 07:29 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Apparently Neville hurt his ankle sliding under Jericho. Jericho called for the quick pin to finish it, but the the referee wasn't sure on the situation and didn't count the three, so Jericho improvised and went with the DQ. Reports are that Neville was helped to the back, not putting any weight on his ankle.





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posted on 3-15-2016 at 11:31 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
The only thing from RAW that mattered to me was that moment of Foley handing off the barbed wire bat to Ambrose. For me, it was my favorite Attitude era guy giving his seal of approval to my favorite modern guy. I had goosebumps from it just 'cause that bat looks so right on Ambrose's shoulder.

It's clear that the audience has decided to hate on Reigns and it's going to get worse. He just plain needs a heel turn. But I also think he needs to get the belt at Mania. So just do it. Turn him. Turn him that night, turn him on the RAW the night after. Just do it. 'cause god damn am I tired of talking about it already and the dude's only in his twenties.





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posted on 3-15-2016 at 02:00 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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After that last segment, I'm pretty firmly convinced that Taker is going to lose intentionally to Shane at WrestleMania. I can already picture him having Shane beat, about to go for the pin, when he sees Vince cackling outside the ring and reveling in Shane's impending loss. Then Taker stares at Vince, shakes his head "no," and lays down on the mat, pulling an unconscious Shane on top of him for the three count to the horror of Vince..


Here is why Vince is greater than all. Over a decade ago he had a booker/plot writer join these boards so he could float a leadership change idea when Vince hit 70. Goon has now outed himself as a WWE employee writing storylines. I have never been so confident about a projected outcome.

On Neville, the camera just missed the injury, he was baseball sliding under Jericho, looks like the high flyer doesn't like the matt( no "e"). I imagine Jericho was going to beat Neville senseless and AJ would run in, not sure why they didn't continue down that path, the call for the microphone was clearly Jericho adlibbing to get the AJ chant.





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posted on 3-15-2016 at 02:14 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Anybody else expecting (hoping) the box to have a smaller box inside it, with Mr. Socko inside that box?





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posted on 3-15-2016 at 02:35 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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This is how awful and dumb the booking is. They had a no doubt, softball-served-up way to get Roman at least some cheer... and they didn't take it. What the fuck?

I mean... Jesus. I always figured the booking team was just oblivious and/or stubborn, but that they truly believed they were doing what they thought would get Roman over. Tonight, it's like they were malicious and wanted him to get booed on purpose.


Wait, Roman wasn't supposed to be the heel in that segment???





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posted on 3-15-2016 at 03:21 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Loved everything Ambrose! It all worked, from his interaction with Lesnar to the passing of the barbed wire bat from Foley.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, you have Roman Reigns. What's worse than getting booed by the live audience?..... having one of the worst revenge beat downs in the history of televised wrestling. That just sucked in so many ways. Vince really needs to give up on this Reigns push. They have ruined this guy beyond belief.

I love Shane McMahon, but his mic work has become the drizzling shits during his 6 plus year hiatus. He sounds nervous and he is fucking up his lines big time. Don't get it at all??

I can care less about the League of Booty, but the beat down of the New Day was well done. It gives some momentum heading into their match at Wrestlemania.





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posted on 3-15-2016 at 04:46 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Apparently Neville hurt his ankle sliding under Jericho. Jericho called for the quick pin to finish it, but the the referee wasn't sure on the situation and didn't count the three, so Jericho improvised and went with the DQ. Reports are that Neville was helped to the back, not putting any weight on his ankle.

Reports are Neville broke his ankle and shin. Doesn't look good.





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posted on 3-15-2016 at 05:05 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Whoops, just posted that in rumors too. Fucking sucks for Neville.
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posted on 3-15-2016 at 05:57 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Reported on WWE's newly-ugly-but-designed-to-look-and-work-better-on-mobile-devices website

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2016-03-14/article/neville-ankle-injury-raw

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posted on 3-15-2016 at 07:57 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
That video is heartbreaking, right after the guy says it's a break he knows he's out of Mania.





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posted on 3-15-2016 at 09:16 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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That video is heartbreaking, right after the guy says it's a break he knows he's out of Mania.


It really is.

And it's one of those stupid ironic injuries where a high flyer takes himself out (hopefully temporarily) doing the simplest thing. He can jump out of the ring, flip over 5 times and land on other people, but if you watch the match you can see the break happen when he plants his foot to change direction while running the ropes.

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posted on 3-15-2016 at 10:26 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
After seeing a slowmo replay of that evil, evil baseball slide, I'd hoped he just tweaked something. Also, this video I just saw on the Botchamania FB page does wonders for breaking down the whole thing from start to finish more or less.

https://youtu.be/cUDCJutY2GY

Knowing what we now know, it hurts watching him keep doing stuff on that foot, especially the kick he did not long after the slide.

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I loved the new episode of "The Edge & Christian Show", but I can't unsee the final image of the show. For the love of all that is holy...
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posted on 3-16-2016 at 04:24 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Shane got knocked out cold in a minute (as he should) against The Undertaker. Unless, he comes out next week demanding a no DQ stipulation, I can't see the slightest sense in this already pointless match.





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posted on 3-16-2016 at 04:29 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Shane got knocked out cold in a minute (as he should) against The Undertaker. Unless, he comes out next week demanding a no DQ stipulation, I can't see the slightest sense in this already pointless match.


Well the match is going to tale place in Hell In A Cell, something I don't think they're hyping even, and the unpredictability that that...sigh..."demonic structure" brings with it. At the very least it should provide Shane with enough plot armor to not completely destroy Takers legitimacy or legacy.





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posted on 3-16-2016 at 09:09 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Echo that thought.

What must Taker be thinking? Fighting Shane on the biggest stage in all wrestling? That too when he can only make special appearances.

I am going to give the WWE the benefit of the doubt here (yea, I know) and hope that the match involves - John Cena, Sting, Finn Balor or the rest of the locker room.

Or you know we could go with Creative's usual line of thought:

Shane has Michelle kidnapped by Big Show and demands that Taker lay down.
Later it will be revealed that Taker was in cahoots with Shane.
Only for Shane to turn his back on Taker once he gets control of Raw.
Then, the next week Undertaker discovers that Michelle and Shane are seeing each other.

I could go on...sigh.





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posted on 3-16-2016 at 10:24 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Echo that thought.

What must Taker be thinking? Fighting Shane on the biggest stage in all wrestling? That too when he can only make special appearances.

I am going to give the WWE the benefit of the doubt here (yea, I know) and hope that the match involves - John Cena, Sting, Finn Balor or the rest of the locker room.

Or you know we could go with Creative's usual line of thought:

Shane has Michelle kidnapped by Big Show and demands that Taker lay down.
Later it will be revealed that Taker was in cahoots with Shane.
Only for Shane to turn his back on Taker once he gets control of Raw.
Then, the next week Undertaker discovers that Michelle and Shane are seeing each other.

I could go on...sigh.


Honestly, when was the last time anything like this actually happened? That sounds very Russo and Russo hasn't worked there in a LONG time. If anything, the product suffers from stagnancy as a result of a too great reluctance to let titles change hands or have people change their alignment. Outside of the Total Divas stuff, this kind of tawdry cheap soap opera crap has largely abated years and years ago.





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posted on 3-16-2016 at 10:34 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Absolutely, I was intending to state that the thought was from creative 1999. Somehow and quite strangely I missed posting that and used the word "usual" instead

Can happen when you are wasting office time on wrasslin !!

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* Xavier showing a moveset here.
* New Day's face turn is complete.
* Ambrose and Lesnar fail to insert themselves into the title picture.
* And the U.S. anvil drops.
* No, HHH.� We do NOT hope Roman is going to be the one.� That is where you've miscalculated.
* OK, that barricade moonsault was kinda nuts.
* The Wankerverse has lamented how they don't want to see Reigns/HHH at WM.� I'm guessing even fewer want Lana/Brie.
* Back-to-back Divas interview segments?� Who the hell wrote this show?
* Mick!
* Passing of the barbed wire torch!� Awesome!
* And Roman's big return hailed with a chorus of boos.�
* Well at least the brawl was... all over the arena?
* Isn't this the EXACT same promo Vince did 1 or 2 weeks ago?
* Did Shane forget how to talk?� Did he train with Orton for that promo?
* The hell was the point of that.�
That was meh at best.� Probably below meh.





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