royberto
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Originally posted by ulsterphil
I wouldnt completely rule out Vince agreeing to this to piss on Punk.
We all know what hes like.
I would rule it out. A clause was put in Brock's contract back at Wrestlemania time as a compromise to Lesnar
trying to hold Vince up for money. From that point on, it was pretty much a given that Brock would get back in the octagon. Punk was irrelevant.
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royberto
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Originally posted by OORick
To me, unless you really open yourself up to some kind of conspiracy theory, in which Dana White is laying a trap for Brock, and uses up
Lesnar's last bit of PPV drawing power to bang a huge number for UFC 200 while secretly conspiring to send Brock back to WWE as damaged goods,
this is actually a rock solid business move on both sides. A win/win. Maybe something that paves the way for a similarly beneficial deal for Rousey
(she wants to do WWE, and more importantly, FANS want her in WWE, but Dana White is every bit the self-absorbed dick Vince is, so far)....
Rick
It's a very plausible conspiracy theory because Dana White is a big enough dick to be willing to do it. That said, I don't
believe for one second that he actually would do it.
In other news, Edge and Beth Phoenix announce the arrival of their second child, Ruby:
http://www.wwe.com/article/edge-beth-phoenix-welcome-second-child?sf27993545=1
Congrats to the happy couple.
[Edited on 6-5-2016 by royberto]
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First 9
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Remember how that other MMA company tried to make Kimbo Slice their star and feed him only scrubs? I'm sure everyone involved is hoping this is
a Lesnar exhibition but there's a chance things can go spectacularly wrong here.
Anyway, I'm hoping we get a Heyman promo live at UFC 200.
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denverpunk
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Speaking of Dana White being the biggest fucknut imaginable, he just banned three MMA reporters' credentials "for life" for breaking the
Lesnar news (i.e., doing their job).
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nOOb
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Unless he's been training non-stop since the day after Wrestlemania, this could very well end badly for Brock. Unless, of course, the UFC opts
to do what they did for Punk and have a reality show on the internet determine which 1-0 amateur heavyweight will get the "chance of a lifetime" to
fight a former UFC champion.
I would also like to make mention that the last time Brock fought, a kick to the liver did him in. Because, even though he's been
Brockin' it for the past few years in WWE, his insides are still the victim of a disease that almost killed him. So he could very easily get
put on the shelf for a few months win or lose after UFC 200.
"The Seahawks are cool. Me and Tubby here hung out with them once at a Bruno Mars concert."-Jay and Silent Bob representing the Broncos on FOX NFL
Sunday.
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punkerhardcore
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Vince is only allowing Brock to do this to further build up his aura as the baddest, most unstoppable beast ever in the WWE...
...so he can make him job cleanly to Reigns at Summerslam.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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Nobledictator1278
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quote:
Originally posted by denverpunk
Speaking of Dana White being the biggest fucknut imaginable, he just banned three MMA reporters' credentials "for life" for breaking the
Lesnar news (i.e., doing their job).
Personally Id ban them too.....this was a pretty big leak. This is how you manage your media. Call it communist Russia or whatever...but this was a
huge surprise from UFC and WWE for that matter..... I get his frustration.
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G. Jonah Jameson
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quote:
Originally posted by Nobledictator1278
quote:
Originally posted by denverpunk
Speaking of Dana White being the biggest fucknut imaginable, he just banned three MMA reporters' credentials "for life" for breaking the
Lesnar news (i.e., doing their job).
Personally Id ban them too.....this was a pretty big leak. This is how you manage your media. Call it communist Russia or whatever...but this was a
huge surprise from UFC and WWE for that matter..... I get his frustration.
Then maybe he ought to punish the people who divulged that information in his own camp, not the people they told.
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Nobledictator1278
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He probably did. He strikes me as a no nonsense guy. Im surprised as much information leaks out of the WWE as it does. Thais one thing if I was in
charge of WWE I would do way different, if I even caught any story line leaks or really any leak going to the websites I didn't' want out
there heads would roll. I would do it publicly and I would do it very harshly, Id fine the wrestlers huge if it was someone I didn't want to
cut. I would make it clear though it wasn't tolerated.
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DKBroiler
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quote:
Originally posted by Nobledictator1278
He probably did. He strikes me as a no nonsense guy. Im surprised as much information leaks out of the WWE as it does. Thais one thing if I was in
charge of WWE I would do way different, if I even caught any story line leaks or really any leak going to the websites I didn't' want out
there heads would roll. I would do it publicly and I would do it very harshly, Id fine the wrestlers huge if it was someone I didn't want to
cut. I would make it clear though it wasn't tolerated.
That's very noble, dictator.
Braun Strowman guy.
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Slade
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I believe that WWE brass approves the majority of their leaks. They allow news to get leaked out and fabricate rumours that they also leak. They
probably have someone on staff whose job it is come up with all of the leaks and get them out into the news cycle so that there is also something for
us to be talking about. They may even throw some ideas out there that they aren't too sure of and monitor fan reactions to see if the idea is
any good or not. In some cases, I think they put out rumours that piss off a lot of the internet just for the sake of having a laugh. However, WWE
never lets surprises get leaked ahead of time. I mean the big ones. The company has been really good in recent years about keeping its biggest
surprises out of the dirt sheets. It was understood that Seth Rollins was close to returning, but his return at Extreme Rules was not spoiled.
Cesaro's post-'Mania RAW appearance was not spoiled. Shane McMahon's return to the company was not spoiled. Sting's debut at
Survivor Series 2014 was not spoiled. That time Chris Jericho was a surprise entrant in the Royal Rumble, 3-4 years ago, was not spoiled. When WWE
wants to get a certain reaction and blow the minds of everyone in attendance, it does an excellent job of getting what it wants. I think of that as
more evidence that WWE is in control of the information that is supposedly leaked to the dirt sheets.
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Paddlefoot
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There's probably no way that WWE hasn't warned everyone quite thoroughly that after TMA leaked the Lana/Rusev engagement that botched the
plot with Ziggler/Summer that heads will probably roll if it happens again. That one with TMZ getting involved on a minor story made Vince hit the
ceiling. If it ever happened on a major reveal just before a PPV he'd probably kill someone. I've noticed lately that a lot of the social
media activity by the performers, especially ones like Lana or Paige that really laid their entire days worth of activity online, has been curtailed
significantly. Now it's back to mere pictures on Instagram and much less commentary. They seem to have learned because if it happens again, even
by a benchwarmer or C-list performer, there'll probably be an immediate firing (e.g Cameron getting bagged instantaneously after tweeting
support for Ryback).
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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Nobledictator1278
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quote:
Originally posted by DKBroiler
quote:
Originally posted by Nobledictator1278
He probably did. He strikes me as a no nonsense guy. Im surprised as much information leaks out of the WWE as it does. Thais one thing if I was in
charge of WWE I would do way different, if I even caught any story line leaks or really any leak going to the websites I didn't' want out
there heads would roll. I would do it publicly and I would do it very harshly, Id fine the wrestlers huge if it was someone I didn't want to
cut. I would make it clear though it wasn't tolerated.
That's very noble, dictator.
Hey Id wish them well in their future endeavors ....see I'm noble :-)
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CCharger
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quote:
Originally posted by Nobledictator1278
quote:
Originally posted by denverpunk
Speaking of Dana White being the biggest fucknut imaginable, he just banned three MMA reporters' credentials "for life" for breaking the
Lesnar news (i.e., doing their job).
Personally Id ban them too.....this was a pretty big leak. This is how you manage your media. Call it communist Russia or whatever...but this was a
huge surprise from UFC and WWE for that matter..... I get his frustration.
Imagine the NBA banning Brian Windhorst for reporting a rumor that LeBron was going back to Miami before he announced it.
Imagine a scenario where the NFL bans John Clayton for reporting on a rumor that the NFL was adding a team in Canada before they announced it.
Imagine MLB banning Dan LeBetard for reporting on a rumor that the Marlins were trading Giancarlo Stanton to the Yankees.
Ariel Helwani isn't a UFC employee who leaked inside info. He's a sports reporter doing his job: digging up scoops and reporting on
news.
Banning him for doing his job is small, petty, and ridiculous. UFC deserves all the criticism they are getting for this.
When it Reigns, it bores.
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Count Zero
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Originally posted by CCharger
Banning him for doing his job is small, petty, and ridiculous. UFC deserves all the criticism they are getting for this.
I could not agree
more with this comment. These aren't "state secrets" that he's revealed. He just scooped the organization's press
releases/conferences, which is WHAT a good investigative reporter is supposed to do. I really don't like where "the media" finds itself these
days, with a lot of 'interviews' and 'access' basically turning into 'you say what we tell you to say, or we tell you
nothing.' 
note: I don't even -like- Ariel Helwani (something about his TV persona just bugs me), but I will defend to the death his right to properly do
his job.
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Slick
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Brock announced on ESPN that his fight will be against Mark Hunt.
That should be an entertaining fight!
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williamssl
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I bet one of the higher ups at the UFC runs a private e-mail server out of their bathroom and that's the source of this leak. People never
learn....
Don't Mess With Texas
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bopol
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quote:
Originally posted by Count Zero
quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
Banning him for doing his job is small, petty, and ridiculous. UFC deserves all the criticism they are getting for this.
I could not agree
more with this comment. These aren't "state secrets" that he's revealed. He just scooped the organization's press
releases/conferences, which is WHAT a good investigative reporter is supposed to do. I really don't like where "the media" finds itself these
days, with a lot of 'interviews' and 'access' basically turning into 'you say what we tell you to say, or we tell you
nothing.'
note: I don't even -like- Ariel Helwani (something about his TV persona just bugs me), but I will defend to the death his right to properly do
his job.
Good way to make sure that you get the press you want. Just tell them that they won't have a job if they don't kiss your ass because
you'll restrict their access. Pretty much guarantees that any news that the UFC doesn't want out there (suppose one of their fighters
doesn't pass a drug test or beat his wife), won't be.
I only signed up so I can read the forum.
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Paddlefoot
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"Small, petty, and ridiculous". Kind of fits Dana White perfectly. Every interview and post-fight comment I've seen from the man shows him to
be a complete piece of garbage as a person. Forget a minor character like Vince McMahon for comparison. White is on par with Don King as far as almost
all the bad aspects of a promotion owner go. All he needs to do is get caught fixing a fight or getting charged with assault by using a couple of the
goons to beat someone up and he'll be identical to King. This is where I figured where CM Punk has to be some kind of a genuine moron in
plotting out the next stage of his life. He shits all over WWE when he leaves, calls everyone there the worst people in the world, only to get into
business with a creature like Dana White? I wonder how the accidental concussions he got in WWE are going to compare to the real one Mickey Gall gives
him, not to mention what it's going to feel like after he gets scraped off the octagon mat and White's only reaction will be "it's
all OK because I made a lot of money off this thing". It'll kind of put WWE (allegedly) misdiagnosing the pimple on his ass into a better
perspective when he's forced to lie down in a dark room for three months after the fight and White's only response to him will be "when
can you come back because I figure you owe me another appearance".
This is why I generally stay away from the fighting leagues. The people who run those joints are almost all uniformly awful beyond description.
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You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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bigfatgoalie
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quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
quote:
Originally posted by Nobledictator1278
quote:
Originally posted by denverpunk
Speaking of Dana White being the biggest fucknut imaginable, he just banned three MMA reporters' credentials "for life" for breaking the
Lesnar news (i.e., doing their job).
Personally Id ban them too.....this was a pretty big leak. This is how you manage your media. Call it communist Russia or whatever...but this was a
huge surprise from UFC and WWE for that matter..... I get his frustration.
Imagine the NBA banning Brian Windhorst for reporting a rumor that LeBron was going back to Miami before he announced it.
Imagine a scenario where the NFL bans John Clayton for reporting on a rumor that the NFL was adding a team in Canada before they announced it.
Imagine MLB banning Dan LeBetard for reporting on a rumor that the Marlins were trading Giancarlo Stanton to the Yankees.
Ariel Helwani isn't a UFC employee who leaked inside info. He's a sports reporter doing his job: digging up scoops and reporting on
news.
Banning him for doing his job is small, petty, and ridiculous. UFC deserves all the criticism they are getting for this.
I agree 100% CCharger.
Pretty sure that means Nobledictator1278 automatically wins a special, limited edition bOOardie of Obtuseness for that.
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CM Crunk
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For anybody interested, Paul Heyman is going to be conducting a live interview with Brock over on his Heyman Hustle YouTube channel today an hour
before Raw goes live.
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Flash
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I wonder if you'll see other media outlets band together and refuse to cover the UFC over this?
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scott19buckeye
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I think the Lesner going to UFC is a win for everyone. Even if he gets his ass kicked, he's still in a small percentage of people in WWE that
can make the jump. It doesn't hurt his wrestling because, let's be honest, he doesn't "wrestle". All he does is MMA
kicks/punches/knees, and throws people around with "suplex city". If he wasn't a badass MMA dude, I don't think people would care about
him; they would be pissed that he is getting pushed and not having a "move set". I would think his WWE training is staying in shape by doing MMA
training.
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Flash
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My initial thoughts on Lesnar possibly losing weren't so much that's it, he'd be a laughing stock... more that it could be a little
damaging to the WWE; as in "see that fake shit over there.... it's real in the UFC".
But really... people know wrestling is "fake"... it's not a secret. This also isn't CM Punk going over there and getting fed his lunch;
it's Lesnar, he's been the king of the mountain over there before... plus, Lesnar's a freak... he ain't losing that he could
totally kick my ass vibe that he's got going. So Lesnar losing probably isn't ideal, but it's probably not the end of the world
either.
The more I think about it the more I can see how this would get the WWE a healthy amount of attention, maybe it's a secret Lesnar for Rhonda
trade, and should Lesnar win... well then it's a "WWE guy" doing well over there; even if like I said before it's a guy that's
already done that.
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CCharger
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As a follow up to the UFC bans Helwani story: he went on his own podcast today and admitted that he was a paid shill for the UFC. When he was working
at Fox, his checks were signed by UFC not Fox. That's probably the first rule of journalistic ethics. Don't take money from the people
you're reporting on.
So, yeah, fuck that guy.
When it Reigns, it bores.
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