Flash
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I've read some different stuff; where yeah his salary was coming from the UFC coffers, but it was being filtered through Fox.... and it sounds
like he was off of the UFC's leash most of the time anyway, to the point that he was fired.
Normally I'd say working for the entity you're covering is a pretty big no-no for journalistic ethics, but I think in this case the UFC is
a bit of a different entity that doesn't have the history of the other major sports, and have probably had to grow themselves a bit; up to and
including seeding the media a bit.
I kind of think the UFC has taken a page out wrestling's playbook in that there's probably a bit more of a tit for tat relationship with
those that cover it than there is in other sports.
I mean the UFC is covered; when they have an event or make some news, but by and large I can open the sports section and even up here in Canada find
at least a story a week about the major sports even in their off season.... not so much with the UFC.
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Gobshite
The Great One 
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The thing I don't buy is that he claims he confirmed with multiple sources that Lesnar was close to signing... that's bullshit. Lesnar was
signed some time ago. His trainers have known for a long time, even the guy in production who put the UFC200 advert together knew...
I think he, and several other reporters knew ahead of time, and were told to keep it off the record... but that he wanted to get the scoop first, so
reported it as a "rumour" to try and get away with it, and it's backfired.
He was on the UFC payroll, whilst pretending to be an indepenent journalist... find it hard to believe anything else the guy says to be honest.
Do I think Dana is a stand up guy? Hell no. But I don't think Ariel is the clean as a whistle guy he claims to be.
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CCharger
The Rowdy One 
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* Epico and Primo are reportedly on the chopping block and could be released any day
* Triple H and WWE are very high on Ring of Honor's Moose and Roderick Strong. Both of their contracts are up soon, and could appear in NXT soon
after.
*The rumor that just won't die. As has been reported other times, Alexis Bliss apparently has a a graphic sex tape that she made with a
boyfriend when she was underage. Very underage. Like 15 underage. It has yet to go mainstream, but has been floating around the darker parts of the
web for a couple of years. WWE attorney's are working hard to keep the lid on it.
[Edited on 6-7-2016 by CCharger]
When it Reigns, it bores.
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royberto
Fella
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| posted on 6-7-2016 at 10:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bopol
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Originally posted by Count Zero
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Originally posted by CCharger
Banning him for doing his job is small, petty, and ridiculous. UFC deserves all the criticism they are getting for this.
I could not agree
more with this comment. These aren't "state secrets" that he's revealed. He just scooped the organization's press
releases/conferences, which is WHAT a good investigative reporter is supposed to do. I really don't like where "the media" finds itself these
days, with a lot of 'interviews' and 'access' basically turning into 'you say what we tell you to say, or we tell you
nothing.' 
note: I don't even -like- Ariel Helwani (something about his TV persona just bugs me), but I will defend to the death his right to properly do
his job.
Good way to make sure that you get the press you want. Just tell them that they won't have a job if they don't kiss your ass because
you'll restrict their access. Pretty much guarantees that any news that the UFC doesn't want out there (suppose one of their fighters
doesn't pass a drug test or beat his wife), won't be.
It can also guarnatee they will get no press if they piss off everyone.
Anyway, the UFC lifted the ban on Ariel when they realized the were coming out of this looking like pedantic fuck sticks:
http://411mania.com/mma/ufc-lifts-ban-on-ariel-helwani-and-mmafighting-com/
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Gobshite
The Great One
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OR... they lifted the ban on them after MMAFighting.com went cap in hand, begged for forgiveness, and promised that Ariel will run news past them in
future.
The fact that MMAFighting wouldn't even stand up for themselves in this situation for ONE DAY screams to me that they knew they did wrong,
apologized, and I'll bet any money they don't 'break' another story like that, during a PPV, again.
There are PLENTY of MMA "News" sites, and UFC doesn't need MMAFighting.com at it's press or Live events when ESPN, The Ringer, Sky
Sports, and BBC are starting to cover it more and more.
These smaller MMA Sites need UFC way more than UFC need them these days. Its just the way things have gone...
Do I think UFC Over reacted? Hell yes.
Do I think Ariel and his site are telling the truth about what they knew, and at what times? Hell no.
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CCharger
The Rowdy One
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The sad thing is that UFC's reaction to Helwani completely overshadowed Brock's return. All the talk on sports radio and sports blogs,
etc. was about Dana White and Helwani, not Brock. That's a shame, but that's what UFC gets for it's petulant response.
Had they just let this ride, people would have forgotten who broke the story and the focus would have been on Lesnar, not on other things.
When it Reigns, it bores.
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lz4005
Man of a Thousand Holds
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quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
*The rumor that just won't die. As has been reported other times, Alexis Bliss apparently has a a graphic sex tape that she made with a
boyfriend when she was underage. Very underage. Like 15 underage. It has yet to go mainstream, but has been floating around the darker parts of the
web for a couple of years. WWE attorney's are working hard to keep the lid on it.
How hard do they have to work when anyone hosting, distributing or downloading is committing a felony?
I mean, there's a number of underage celebrity sex tapes out there of people way more famous than her and none of them go wide because jail.
Lots and lots of jail.
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CCharger
The Rowdy One
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quote:
Originally posted by lz4005
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Originally posted by CCharger
*The rumor that just won't die. As has been reported other times, Alexis Bliss apparently has a a graphic sex tape that she made with a
boyfriend when she was underage. Very underage. Like 15 underage. It has yet to go mainstream, but has been floating around the darker parts of the
web for a couple of years. WWE attorney's are working hard to keep the lid on it.
How hard do they have to work when anyone hosting, distributing or downloading is committing a felony?
I mean, there's a number of underage celebrity sex tapes out there of people way more famous than her and none of them go wide because jail.
Lots and lots of jail.
You make it sound like kiddie porn and other awful things are not available for the internet at large which is false.
Also, I have never heard of any other celebrities with an "underage sex tape". Then again, I'm not really looking.
When it Reigns, it bores.
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Dyn-O-Mite
And I am AWESOME
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Not 100% sure this belongs here, but there's not another good spot, I ain't starting a thread for it, and well, we put everything else in
here soooooooo...
Was at Universal Studios Hollywood yesterday with my nephew. Hitting up Harry Potter World and The Simpsons land with him - when we stumbled into a
stunt show based on the movie Waterworld. (yes, that abomination starring Kevin Costner) It's a show with pyrotechnics, jet ski "tricks"
(quotes used because they were pretty weak stunts), etc.
Anyway, the individual playing the lead heel (this is a wrestling board, we don't use the word villain) -- none other than: the Fallen Angel
Christopher Daniels. Oh yes. After the show, he played the cast's version of lead singer in the band, introducing all of the actors and a piece
of their place in pop culture (movie/tv) you might recognize them from. Finally gets to himself and his piece? "Ring of Honor Wrestling" I
definitely took a picture with him, absolutely referred to it as a "picture with the 'Fallen Angel'" and he 100% was not as psyched
about it as I was.
#chrisdanielslives
[Edited on 6-8-2016 by Dyn-O-Mite]
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CCharger
The Rowdy One
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Toss a whole lotta kosher salt on this rumor, but apparently the entire motivation for the brand split was StepHHH's reluctance to share on
screen role of GM with Shane. Stephanie (more than Trips) complained to Daddy McMahon and he agreed to a compromise where Shane would run Raw and
Stephanie (and probably HHH) would run Smackdown. This goes back to the rumors from when Shane first appeared that StepHHH were irritated by Shane and
threatened by his re-appearance on TV. Apparently they are both unhappy sharing the on-screen leadership role with Shane.
When it Reigns, it bores.
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merc
Man of a Thousand Holds
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I miss Sheriff Matte
RUMOR has it he is too busy looking for Lucky Lopez to be bothered with non rumors in his rumor threads.
"I wish sarcasm was available as a font." John Stuart Mill
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Count Zero
Man of a Thousand Holds
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quote:
Originally posted by merc
I miss Sheriff Matte
RUMOR has it he is too busy looking for Lucky Lopez to be bothered with non rumors in his rumor threads.
Originally posted by williamssl
"That hasn't stopped us from doing this shit before!"
"Checkmate, sir. Checkmate"
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royberto
Fella
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quote:
Originally posted by Gobshite
OR... they lifted the ban on them after MMAFighting.com went cap in hand, begged for forgiveness, and promised that Ariel will run news past them in
future.
I would put money on they didn't want to look like pedantic fuck sticks. As was mentioned by another poster, all people were
talking about was Dana and Ariel, not Lesnar. Then, Dana went out publicly and acted like a dick in an interview over it. Ariel and MMAFighting had no
reason to go back to UFC cap in hand at that point. It was becoming very bad PR for UFC.
[Edited on 6-8-2016 by royberto]
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Chris Is Good517
Best There Is Was or Ever Will Be 
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quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
Toss a whole lotta kosher salt on this rumor, but apparently the entire motivation for the brand split was StepHHH's reluctance to share on
screen role of GM with Shane. Stephanie (more than Trips) complained to Daddy McMahon and he agreed to a compromise where Shane would run Raw and
Stephanie (and probably HHH) would run Smackdown. This goes back to the rumors from when Shane first appeared that StepHHH were irritated by Shane and
threatened by his re-appearance on TV. Apparently they are both unhappy sharing the on-screen leadership role with Shane.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to stick with "USA wants Smackdown ratings up" for this one.
I fully believe StepHHH may not be thrilled about Shane's presence backstage. I doubt they give one flaming hot shit about sharing storyline
power with him, and certainly not enough to necessitate a freaking brand split.
Monday Night Flaw, a podcast about professional wrestling starring OO's own
Figure Foreskin as Andy the Smarmy Host and Chris Is Good517 as Cousin Balki.
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First 9
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Guy can't even committ to appearing weekly, no way are they rearranging the whole way they operate just so he doesn't have to share air
time.
A part of me wishes it was true since by making SD their brand, HHH and Steph would have a personal interest on making it stand out and maybe Shane
would take a bigger role trying to make sure RAW keeps up. Not a war, but atleast some competition between brands.
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Thom
The Immortal One 
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I'd think that if that rumor were true, wouldn't Shane end up on SD, while StepHHH ran Raw? That would make the most sense, to me.
#GLENNSURVIVESLOL - Cherokee Jack, from TWD Season 6 thread
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ThePunisher
The Great One
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quote:
Originally posted by merc
I miss Sheriff Matte
RUMOR has it he is too busy looking for Lucky Lopez to be bothered with non rumors in his rumor threads.
We shall not speak the name Lucky Lopez on these boards. He has joined the ranks of Ah**d Jo***son as "those who shall not be named".
Wait 'Til Next Year - The best baseball podcast on the 'Net!
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Cherokee Jack
Man of a Thousand Holds
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
Yeah, I'm gonna have to stick with "USA wants Smackdown ratings up" for this one.
I fully believe StepHHH may not be thrilled about Shane's presence backstage. I doubt they give one flaming hot shit about sharing storyline
power with him, and certainly not enough to necessitate a freaking brand split.
Agreed, though I'm also having flashbacks to the
early/mid 2000s when Stevie Richards was (as usual) making chicken salad out of the chicken shit that WWE gave him, having proclaimed himself the GM
of Sunday Night Heat and doing some really great stuff on that show. It went on for a little while under (as legend has it) Stephanie got wind of it
and put the kibosh on the whole thing, as she felt that his antics on Heat were making a mockery of the (completely fucking worked) position of
General Manager, which she was on SD at the time.
That said, it's one thing to kill a C-show gimmick over petty reasons, it's another to do this whole thing that they're doing. I
can't imagine that this is all to stroke Steph's fragile little ego.
I'm Cherokee Jack!
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Wickedfrost
I LOVE RVD 
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quote:
Originally posted by ThePunisher
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Originally posted by merc
I miss Sheriff Matte
RUMOR has it he is too busy looking for Lucky Lopez to be bothered with non rumors in his rumor threads.
We shall not speak the name Lucky Lopez on these boards. He has joined the ranks of Ah**d Jo***son as "those who shall not be named".
No, damn you. That magnificent bastard will be remembered.
Stay wet my friends.
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DevilSoprano
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quote:
Originally posted by Wickedfrost
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Originally posted by ThePunisher
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Originally posted by merc
I miss Sheriff Matte
RUMOR has it he is too busy looking for Lucky Lopez to be bothered with non rumors in his rumor threads.
We shall not speak the name Lucky Lopez on these boards. He has joined the ranks of Ah**d Jo***son as "those who shall not be named".
No, damn you. That magnificent bastard will be remembered.
That magnificent bastard is a legitimate fucking thief. He vanished with Fantasy Baseball money from a lot of the old school members of this board,
including Pun and myself.
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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Maybe he needed that money to buy smokes or twins in prison.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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Matte
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Maybe his entire run as a poster here was just a long con to earn everyone's trust and then steal the money right from under their nose.
Ultimate Match Showdown!
"I'm a professional. I know exactly what I'm doing." - Jeff Hardy
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merc
Man of a Thousand Holds
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quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Maybe he needed that money to buy smokes or twins in prison.
quote:
Originally posted by Matte
Maybe his entire run as a poster here was just a long con to earn everyone's trust and then steal the money right from under their nose.
You guys are doing it wrong! 
RUMOR has it he just re-registered under a different name. There are several candidates that joined just prior to or after his final post...
"I wish sarcasm was available as a font." John Stuart Mill
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Sam Is Neat
Fella
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quote:
Originally posted by DevilSoprano
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Originally posted by Wickedfrost
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Originally posted by ThePunisher
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Originally posted by merc
I miss Sheriff Matte
RUMOR has it he is too busy looking for Lucky Lopez to be bothered with non rumors in his rumor threads.
We shall not speak the name Lucky Lopez on these boards. He has joined the ranks of Ah**d Jo***son as "those who shall not be named".
No, damn you. That magnificent bastard will be remembered.
That magnificent bastard is a legitimate fucking thief. He vanished with Fantasy Baseball money from a lot of the old school members of this board,
including Pun and myself.
Is THAT the story? I was wondering what exactly DID happen to Lucky. Never got a straight answer but figured it was something nefarious.
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williamssl
Steers and Queers
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"Straight" is the wrong word to be using when referring to one who has been giving and receiving prisonrape for the past several years.
Don't Mess With Texas
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