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Author: Subject: Rumor Crap 2016, Pt. 2
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posted on 5-29-2016 at 09:22 PM Edit Post
The Dudleys are getting a producer credit on this one, as it is based off the true story of Aces and Eights: a jobber group that took to being a biker gang that accomplished nothing and bored audiences to tears quickly into the journey.





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posted on 5-30-2016 at 11:49 PM Edit Post
Rumor has it Kevin Owens is aboat to cross some lines with me. Hey...hey...easy there, pal, eh?







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posted on 5-30-2016 at 11:55 PM Edit Post
I'm guessing this could be the last NXT live special that's branded as Takeover...

Ticketmaster no longer have NXT Takeover: Brooklyn listed.
WWE have removed it from their schedule.

BUT

Barclays centre still have it listed and, more
Importantly...

It's pretty much already sold out anyway. WWE released travel packages for SummerSlam weekend back in March, with packages offering tickets to all 3 events (plus other stuff). I imagine they sold quite well, and that plus regular ticket sales has likely almost sold the place out (SummerSlam is also pretty much sold out). No way they're cancelling the show,

I guess this is similar to WWF dropping the In Your House name... Can't call every major NXT show "takeover" forever...





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posted on 5-31-2016 at 06:09 PM Edit Post
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Cody Rhodes with a set list for "after 8/19" when his no-compete is up.


I just saw this today. It =is= pretty goddamn awesome. I would go apeshit crazy for a Stardust/Dalton Castle feud, but I'm fully aware that Cody probably can't ever do the 'Dust outside of a WWE ring.

Yayyyy for watching ROH & even sometimes seeing TNA! I know who & what most of these list items mean! Also, does Cody ever have some sharp penmanship.

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posted on 5-31-2016 at 06:29 PM Edit Post
He can cross Angle off that list. Northeast Wrestling has booked Angle vs. Rhodes on August 27th.





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posted on 5-31-2016 at 08:45 PM Edit Post
Yahoo revealed that at the end of the 2k17 Goldberg commercial you can see the words "Suplex City" in the reflection foreshadowing a rematch of arguably the worst WM match ever involving main eventers.





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posted on 5-31-2016 at 09:17 PM Edit Post
If it stays in the game, that's fine.

If he steps foot in the ring / on TV as part of the game promotion (e.g. cover reveal) and, say, gets confronted by Social Outcasts or the like and quickly dispatches them, that's worse than above but still tolerable.

If they bring him back in an active wrestling capacity - however long the duration - as part of promoting the game, or ever, that's not fine.

Hear me, WWE, for I have spoken.





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posted on 5-31-2016 at 10:23 PM Edit Post
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If it stays in the game, that's fine.

If he steps foot in the ring / on TV as part of the game promotion (e.g. cover reveal) and, say, gets confronted by Social Outcasts or the like and quickly dispatches them, that's worse than above but still tolerable.

If they bring him back in an active wrestling capacity - however long the duration - as part of promoting the game, or ever, that's not fine.

Hear me, WWE, for I have spoken.
These are the words of a hunter. The words of a finder.

You have been warned, WWE. (seriously, I am backing you up here.)

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posted on 5-31-2016 at 10:28 PM Edit Post
WE will find them. WE will hunt them.





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posted on 5-31-2016 at 10:42 PM Edit Post
Please don't hunt or find me.

I still want to see Goldberg vs Ryback.







I'll let myself out.





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posted on 5-31-2016 at 10:56 PM Edit Post
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Please don't hunt or find me.

I still want to see Goldberg vs Ryback.







I'll let myself out.


The amount of no-sell would create a singularity and collapse the universe.

But I agree. For all out spectacle, it could be awesome. I'd pay really money to see Bret Hart in Ryback's corner and CM Punk in Goldberg's.

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posted on 5-31-2016 at 11:13 PM Edit Post
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WE will find them. WE will hunt them.





I'll take on the WWE. I'll let you handle Goldberg. Cool?
I think I can get my hands on a rental car with lots of windows. Ought to neutralize the big lug in no time at all.





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posted on 5-31-2016 at 11:56 PM Edit Post
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Yahoo revealed that at the end of the 2k17 Goldberg commercial you can see the words "Suplex City" in the reflection foreshadowing a rematch of arguably the worst WM match ever involving main eventers.


Which you could already relive in WWE 2K14's Road to Wrestlemania mode.

This is why the Goldberg announcement fell flat for me. With Sting, it was his first appearance in a WWE game. Goldberg's been in several, at least one recently.

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posted on 6-1-2016 at 02:00 AM Edit Post
With his last appearance for WWE being less well received by fans than the birth of the rubber hand or the hatching of the Gooker were. There aren't many of the old guys still out there that want "one more round with WWE" but Goldberg's one of them. I respect what he did when he was new in WCW with the unbeaten streak and parts of his first WWE visit were OK too. I see no need or purpose to have any of the guys that came up from NXT or any of the TNA/Japan hires get jobbed out to him though. WWE doesn't need to do this anymore to catch attention. Sting was one thing because he's pretty much universally respected but that should be it for the old timers. They gotta leave this sort of thinking behind about what kind of single-moment big splash they can get out of these sorts of hirings.

If they can keep him sane for six months or a year the last one this should happen with should be Kurt Angle. That's not because they owe him anything but simply because he's a huge part of the history of the their best and most dynamic era, and because he put on some of the best matches from anyone that ever worked for them. Ditto with the Hardys too maybe. Can't say that about Goldberg though, so it should be time for them to move on and let the nostalgia go. Alumni deal? Why not? Worth twenty minutes a night on RAW/SD, or gets to take up a half-hour at a PPV? Nah, there's no point to it anymore.



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You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 6-1-2016 at 02:40 AM Edit Post
* Viktor from the Ascension is being mildly repackaged as The Demonic Viktor as he goes it solo due to Konnor's wellness violation and Stardust's departure

* shades of how Highlander Robbie got fired after being seen in the audience at the TNA Impact Zone? Apparently part of the reason for The Brooklyn Brawler's firing after thirty years with the company was that he apparently called in to Taz's podcast to shoot the shit; Taz is on WWE's persona non grata list so Brawler doing that pissed some of the management types off

* contrary to popular belief Vince is very positive on Sasha Banks; he's worried though that she only has one speed, like Daniel Bryan, and that the injuries she's had in her first year on the main roster prove it





You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 6-1-2016 at 06:28 PM Edit Post
Yeah, that whole hatch thing was a pretty big let down for the various reasons people have outlined above.

I kinda figured that if the WWE were going to do a swan song with Goldberg the time was about 2-3 years ago for a one off with Ryback.

Now? I dunno... he just doesn't feel like he could bring much to the table. Maybe for Summer Slam do some kind of all-star 6 man tag team match? Like Goldberg, Taker, .... yeah I've got nothing else, which just goes to show that even that is a questionable use of a limited talent.

Do they maybe pump up Baron Corbin just to job him out to Goldberg?

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posted on 6-1-2016 at 06:49 PM Edit Post
The most obvious booking scenario is to do Roman vs. Goldberg at SummerSlam or Survivor Series (whichever is closer to the release date). Roman wins obvi.

Vince & Co. are happy because their boy beat a huge name. Everyone else is happy because Goldberg lost.

Everyone's happy.

And if you don't think Reigns vs. Goldberg is a marketable match, you're nuts. It would probably suck BALLS, but it would sell.





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posted on 6-1-2016 at 06:52 PM Edit Post
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* Viktor from the Ascension is being mildly repackaged as The Demonic Viktor as he goes it solo due to Konnor's wellness violation and Stardust's departure


Jesus, how many demons does this company need? Kane, Finn Balor and now Viktor. That's just as bad as all the Bigs they have. Someone get the creative team a fucking thesaurus, stat.





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posted on 6-1-2016 at 06:54 PM Edit Post
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* Viktor from the Ascension is being mildly repackaged as The Demonic Viktor as he goes it solo due to Konnor's wellness violation and Stardust's departure


Jesus, how many demons does this company need? Kane, Finn Balor and now Viktor. That's just as bad as all the Bigs they have. Someone get the creative team a fucking thesaurus, stat.


They should call him "Big Demon Viktor".

Then you would have all three WWE name tropes in one.

1. Big
2. Demon
3. Just the first name





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posted on 6-1-2016 at 07:07 PM Edit Post
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The most obvious booking scenario is to do Roman vs. Goldberg at SummerSlam or Survivor Series (whichever is closer to the release date). Roman wins obvi.

Vince & Co. are happy because their boy beat a huge name. Everyone else is happy because Goldberg lost.

Everyone's happy.

And if you don't think Reigns vs. Goldberg is a marketable match, you're nuts. It would probably suck BALLS, but it would sell.


Its release is October, which puts it somewhere between Night of Champs (9/25) and Hell in a Cell (10/30).


I'd be amazed if Goldberg agreed to come back for 1 match and have it be a loss. He just seems like one who continues to have an overinflated sense of worth and relevance that would prevent him from "lowering himself' to doing a comeback only for it to be a one and done loss. Also, he seems like one who's pricetag is or would be much higher than it actually is in value.

The combination of "you pay me a lot more than you think I'm worth" and "and I win because I'm Goldberg" are not good negotiation positions.


His comments in the past (2014) fuel my perceptions:

"Would I love to do it again and have my son and my wife, who has never seen me wrestle? Abso-damn-lutely. Would I jeopardize what I�ve done in the wrestling world just to make that happen? No. So if I wasn�t ready to do it, physically ready to do it, and it wasn�t the right situation, I wouldn�t do it just to do it. If that was the case, I�d probably be at WrestleMania this year. It just has to be right and if it�s not right, then I�m retired, for good."


"Until WWE realizes that I'm not just another wrestler signing a deal, I don't expect any progress. I don't expect any progress. Sorry."





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posted on 6-1-2016 at 07:39 PM Edit Post
I honestly wouldn't put too much stock in Goldberg having one more match in him. From what I've read, and it may have been mentioned here already but I missed it, his deal was signed through 2K via WWE and is not a Legends contract or anything more than him allowing his likeness to be used.

As williams said above, Goldberg simply has too much of an ego to just be brought in to the favor for somebody. Never was his thing, and judging by recent interviews (like his barely there appearance on David Shoemaker's still unnamed Ringer podcast yesterday) it still isn't. Could I see this turning into him maybe signing a Legends deal in the near future and getting into the Hall Of Fame? Totally. But beyond him showing up to promote 2K17 and spearing the shit out of Heath Slater in the process, I don't think we'll being seeing much more of him in the ring than that.





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posted on 6-1-2016 at 08:42 PM Edit Post
* Judge ruled today that Jimmy Snuka is not competent to stand trial for the 1983 death of his then girlfriend; the case will be re-examined in six months but the defense says that Snuka's mental condition is deteriorating badly and he'll be in worse shape by then





You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 6-1-2016 at 08:50 PM Edit Post
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Do they maybe pump up Baron Corbin just to job him out to Goldberg?
I would... This is something.... How can you... Okay, honestly, I would find this terribly amusing. But is is the ONLY way I will 'enjoy' a Goldberg nostalgia trip. Besides, I bet Goldberg & Corben Bernsen are Hollywood-Buddies. They probably met on the set of a tv show, and exchange phone calls. They'd have great in-ring chemistry.

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posted on 6-1-2016 at 09:23 PM Edit Post
I'm sure that whatever match they would throw Goldberg into garner some attention.... I'm just thinking that if I'm Vince, Goldberg isn't going to move the needle a whole lot either with network subscriptions on a one month shot, or main stream attention. So it comes down to merchandise; which might be something Goldberg could help with.... but to the tune of what.... a million dollars... two million... What's Goldberg worth?

Remember, this is a guy that they decided to let walk away after only one year, so I'm willing to guess that in Vince's mind that number is going to be significantly less than the million mark.

On top of that you've got a guy who's quite a bit of a pain in the ass. I mean has Goldberg ever really shut up about that one year in the WWE (you know, the one where they paid him a crap load of money, gave him the title, and put him over a good chunk of their upper card)? Hell, he's not even under contract and he's already talking about what kind of spot he would only come back for.

For what it's worth Goldberg has probably made enough money that he can stay home and not lose any sleep over not coming in for a farewell match in the WWE.... so really this is a case of two entities that don't really need one another, but if they could find a common number there might be room for something fun for the fans.

.... So that probably means we're getting Goldberg versus Big Show?

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posted on 6-1-2016 at 10:41 PM Edit Post
More like we're probably going to get Goldberg winning the Royal Rumble.




Edited to add: Please continue to not hunt me.

[Edited on 6-1-2016 by DKBroiler]





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