knuckleballschwartz
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Cole said if HHH lost the vote of no confident he had two basic choices, quit completely or bring in someone he trusts to head things up. I'm
calling it now: next week we see the debut of Deputy COO/GM/Special Conspiracy Buster CM Punk.
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williamssl
Steers and Queers 
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My favorite part of last night was the return of this Snickers Halloween commercial.
Don't Mess With Texas
SNICKERS
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punkerhardcore
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It would have been awesome if the Anonymous Raw GM's computer sprung legs with wheels on them, and rolled away too... like Frink's
auto-dialer.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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magnooos
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quote:
Originally posted by gimmickless
A decent 12 man tag. The other matches were bleh. And what's with the promotional package hyping up Brodus Clay? I thought he was Hugh Morris
at first.
Good to see Hugh Morrus back; maybe he can re-form his old Misfits in Action faction with Chavo, Booker T and Heidenreich.
I liked the 12-man tag match. My favourite parts of that match were Triple H forgetting Mason Ryan's name when he announced the match, Sheamus
kicking out of Ziggler's finishing move after a one count, and then Ziggler taking that wicked brogue kick.
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Beer Baron
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quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
It would have been awesome if the Anonymous Raw GM's computer sprung legs with wheels on them, and rolled away too... like Frink's
auto-dialer.
hee hee, I remember that one.
There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.
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Doug Almighty
Creepy Little Bastard
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Can review almost any episode of Raw now, accurately, without watching it, by just posting �That was pretty lame� every week. It will sound like you
sat through it, and it will be a fair summary.
As for that segment at the end, yikes! I honestly wouldn�t know where to start. So I won�t start. Lot of relevant things have been pointed out already
anyway, but from a motivational/stylistic/logic standpoint, it was laughable. And made TNA look like The Wire for �realism� by comparison.
I am a nice man so will still go out of my way to give WWE props. At least they mixed up the formula a bit. Good of them to attempt to have some big
drama for a change IMO. But 'walk out' finale aside, was basically the same cards in the deck as normal, was just that they'd given
the cards a shuffle beforehand. Oh and that 6-on-6 match, which was of little consequence, went on WAY too long for my taste...
Is this whole angle really what Punk was asking us to "wait and see!" then? Or what?! Are we still in the middle of what he had high hopes for?! Or
is this all contingency BS, and what Punk had in mind is now only happening in an alternate universe? Do wonder what Punk's honest thoughts
about the current direction would be...
And that's not to say I'm complaining that Punk isn't seemingly the focal point right now. I don't particularly care. Nor do I
require Daniel Bryan to be pushed to the moon or whatever an apologist (or someone with different/lower standards) might say. I just want to see an
entertaining show which isn't lame and naff. Can have Alex Riley be the focal point as far as I'm concerned, assuming there's an
entertaining, well-thought-out non-crappy way of doing it... Which is doubtful right now, but you get the point, maybe...
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DevilSoprano
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That can't be Doug Almighty. If the show sucks it's only because you're not getting massive amounts of CM Punk and Daniel Bryan.
Forget the facts that the show has been horrible for weeks again. It's only cause you're a wanker and want to suck off Punk and Bryan.
Forget the fact that the best parts of wrestling have been Henry, Ziggler, and Cody. If you don't like the show it's cause CM Punk
hasn't brought in Cabana, Black, and the Kings and Daniel Bryan hasn't cashed in his Money in the Bank and squashed Henry yet.
I shouldn't be shocked that people will continue to defend the show but I am. And they continue to go to bullshit reasons why people don't
like the show.
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drmuerto
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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The ending of last night's Raw reminded me of The Simpsons's spoof of Phantom Menace, in which a long bit of parliamentary
procedure is used as a substitute for a plot. It even had a returning Jerry Lawler play the part of the At-At that crashes the party only to sit down
an discuss the measure. In the words of fake-Yoda "The decision is final. Tabled this motion is... or is it?"
Reference video:
http://youtu.be/IvJD9fHS8Hk
On thus plus side, this could be Cena's chance to really freshen up his character by letting his Jar Jar flag fly and turning up his Binksian
mannerisms all the way to 11.
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mooseheadjack
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I don't even know that I HATED anything last night.
- the Orton squash (and I refuse to call it anything but a squash) was completely unnecessary. I am not sure why the WWE insists on Orton showing
ZERO weakness. He had a brutal match last night, and still managed to bury Drew in less than five minutes. Orton could have lost this match, it
would have helped Drew and done ZERO harm to Orton. Zero. And the attack after the bell was just stupid. This guy is supposed to be a face, and he
does heel shit all the time, they are just begging for the Austin comparisons. Ok, so maybe I hated this, simply because it was completely
unnecessary. I can't imagine for one second that a beat down Orton, you know, actually SELLING the brutality of the match last night, losing to
Drew after a hard fought match would cause any fan to say "well I can NEVER buy that Orton guy as a world title contender again!"
- The Henry squash. See, I had no problem with this. It could have been a little longer, for the same reasons as Orton, sell the brutality of the
HITC. But Henry is a monster. He is 400lbs of fury, he SHOULD be built as this crazy destructive force, and HE should be the one brutalizing
opponents after the match, not Orton.
- Kelly Kelly. Ok, I lied. I hated this. There is no reason at all for KK to be on even footing with Nattie and Beth. None. They are both CLEARLY
better than she is, and the story shouldn't have been them overcoming HER it should have been HER overcoming them.
- the 12 man. Meh. It was there. I was distracted while that match was on, but it seemed good enough. Nothing great, nothing horrible. Would it
kill the WWE to let a heel team win one of these giant matches though? Do the faces ALWAYS have to go over? It really is ok to make the heels look
strong WWE. That way when the faces DO overcome them and win? It makes the faces look stronger.
- the Great Walkout. Meh, I don't know. I guess I was hoping they would just play this straight with HHH just sliding into the position of
power and letting the wrestlers tell the story. Instead it seemed to be the HHH show from day one and I have seen enough of that. I agree with what
someone else on here said, this just seems to be paving the way for either Vince or Steph to come back and run things. No thank you. Now, if we get
some infusion of talent coming in next week for a "scab" show, then great. If it goes back to everyone coming back and HHH stepping aside, meh. I
also wonder why Cena, Orton and Punk were not out there, I hope it was intentional and not just an oops by the WWE. Seems like we have had that
happen before "EVERYONE has to be at ringside!" then the big names aren't there
And I am tired of the whole "oh you just hate it because Punk and Bryan aren't DOMINATING!" no, I hate it right now because it is boring.
They took a white hot angle between Punk and Cena and watered it down with Nash and Johnny Ace. They COULD save the whole thing a little if somehow
Truth and Miz end up with Punk, but I dunno. I don't really have faith in the WWE for good storytelling anymore
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nOOb
The Great One 
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I spoke my mind on Punk before, but, serious question: do they even let him talk anymore? I read they gave him a segment at the PPV, but that
was it.
Everything about this girl is awesome. She's hot, she got kicked out of school for sucking too many dicks, she takes it in the ass and her body
gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
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Stu
Caledonian Crippler
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quote:
Originally posted by nOOb
I spoke my mind on Punk before, but, serious question: do they even let him talk anymore? I read they gave him a segment at the PPV, but that
was it.
He was doing guest commentary last week, jacket and all.
The TWO TIME bOOardie Award and Signed Bret Hart DVD Winner!
"Well, Jeff�s puddle throws up the Shocker, so I guess some things never change."
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Nikhil
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I guess I was the only person who said I was intrigued by the end. No. I was not intrigued by the final segment itself but intrigued because no one
can be sure whats gonna happen next. Sure it might turn out to be as tepid as tapwater, but it can also be taken to some new directions. Punk was not
given the mic all night, nor was he in the final segment. That makes it interesting next week as to what he has to say about how things turned out
this week. (Same goes for Cena, but basically who cares.) Lauranitis may assume temporary power and they might *MIGHT* just reveal who the anonymous
GM is. Nash? Vince being in a certain master plan all along... where does that leave C M Punk and the conspiracy theorists? And all of them in the
'certan masterplan' might just embarass HHH because he sobbed like a baby, as he told Vince that he was let go.
Or, as I said it might turn out to be a really really stupid. Again. I give WWE credit where its due. I mean sure more than 50% of the time it sucks
and is boring, but in their eyes they are filling up arenas week in and week out and hence even if they did read the hue and cry raised by
*sophisticated* internet users like the people over here, they would believe it to be an opinion of a minority group. But they did give Punk a big
push, are giving Ryder a certain recognition. (I dont much care about Daniel Bryan I am sorry). Cena and Orton will never go away, we have to make our
peace with that. With arrival of The Rock due November, I am just thinkin WWE are just passing time away.
But still, and this refers to 'if you dont like it and wanna bitch about it, dont watch it' type posts. They have always made no sense to
me. I mean, its like watching any show, or any sport or any movie or any video game for that matter where you are going to like some parts and dislike
the other parts. I for one, always switch on RAW, and work on my laptop or surf the web or chat or read a novel while the show goes on and I hardly
pay attention to it until I see something interesting. Like a Punk segment, or some other good segments here and there. Like until WM26, I only
watched RAW, for a certain HBK, and I even liked all the DX craziness and I did not care what anyone said about that. Good things or bad things. Sure
I hope WWE become as awesome as in the attitude era, but I cant help it, so I appreciate the good parts and say WTF to the other parts and move on.
The gist, that, 'I dont waste my time watching a crappy show and then come here and bitch about it and hence I am more sensible and cooler than
you', makes me laugh. To each their own. Get over it.
P.S. HHH pedigreeing Ryder may also mean something... or not. :|
YNWA
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bigfatgoalie
The Man 
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quote:
Originally posted by DevilSoprano
That can't be Doug Almighty. If the show sucks it's only because you're not getting massive amounts of CM Punk and Daniel Bryan.
Forget the facts that the show has been horrible for weeks again. It's only cause you're a wanker and want to suck off Punk and Bryan.
Forget the fact that the best parts of wrestling have been Henry, Ziggler, and Cody. If you don't like the show it's cause CM Punk
hasn't brought in Cabana, Black, and the Kings and Daniel Bryan hasn't cashed in his Money in the Bank and squashed Henry yet.
I shouldn't be shocked that people will continue to defend the show but I am. And they continue to go to bullshit reasons why people don't
like the show.
This show sucked in a worse ever sense. It makes no sense and has epic (even for wrestling) plot holes.
But if I said that every week it'd become static noise. If I said that every week I'd look like an idiot who chooses on his own free will
to torture himself out of habit instead of doing something enjoyable.
But that's just my opinion. Agree to disagree if you must.
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Frank Lloyd Wright
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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My 1000th post....about fucking time!
But back to topic. I for one have an open mind when they present me with something that leaves me wondering.....what are they going to do next? Even
if it is just for a short time gratification. I say short time, because I'm afraid when this thing unravels, that we will be left with Vince
telling all of us how stupid we've been and HHH asking his father-in-law why he stabbed him in the back. The only positive about Trips being
removed as COO of the WWE, is that we don't have to see him verbally bury everyone on the roster. He will just go back to doing it in the
middle of the ring.
There better be a good explanation of why Punk, Orton and Cena weren't present at ringside, instead of just these guys are above this kind of
crap.
So I assume we won't have Smackdown this Friday since everyone walked out?....wait a minute, they advertised the Big Show's
return....hmmmm
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williamssl
Steers and Queers
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For whatever it's worth, from rajah:
quote:
Many fans probably realized during the closing segment on RAW that many top babyface stars (John Cena, CM Punk, Randy Orton, Sheamus, Mason Ryan, Eve
Torres and Kelly Kelly) were not at ringside for the walkout.
According to a WWE source, writers knew that fans would boo the Superstars who walked out on Triple H and did not want to put that negative heat on
their top babyfaces.
Don't Mess With Texas
SNICKERS
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mooseheadjack
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if there is any truth to that Rajah report, its just pathetic. If you are going to try and do an angle that has never been done before, fucking go
all in, or don't even waste our time.
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- And Moose, seriously, shut the fuck up. - DSop
- Fuck you Moose. The worst part about it is that you are right. I fucking hate when you're right. - Metallikid
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punkerhardcore
The Immortal One
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Very important to protect Cena, who certainly never gets booed.
And since when the fuck are Mason Ryan & Eve top babyfaces?
[Edited on 10-4-2011 by punkerhardcore]
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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Flash
Showstopper
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The company mantra for the last couple of months from both Vince and HHH has been that "No one is bigger than the WWE", so the ending of this week
certainly leaves us with some questions:
Should HHH step down because he's adversly affecting the WWE and him removing himself from the equation might lead to the return of those that
walked out?
Should HHH just walk out and say that anyone that walked out last week is now fired. In the interim we get some lesser stars and indy talent getting a
chance to shine.
Personally I think this whole story should have played out a bit slower as it would have clouded the issues a bit more and given those that walked out
a bit more gravitas in terms of their complaints. We're here now, so I guess the question is what do you do with it?
I wouldn't be a fan of HHH stepping down as I think it would rob a bit from his win over Punk, which I for one believe was more the middle act
of a long term story meant to give Punk some more adversity for when he ultimately triumphs over HHH (at WM or whatever). I also don't think
we've really gotten all the mileage out of HHH as the boss as they could as of yet.
I think the idea of firing everyone who walked out and then debuting a number of the indy stars the WWE has been sitting on would be just both a cool
moment, and a very unique way of introducing some fresh faces. You could then have several lesser heels come slinking back in hopes of winning their
jobs back.
The rest? I think you could genuinely set up an interesting invasion type scenario with the likes of Miz, Truth, Christian, and Otunga (their missing
some muscle though...) working wiht the likes of Nash and Laurenaitis as an NWO type faction... maybe due to some lawsuit they get their own rules and
protected status - their secret benefactor; Vince McMahon. If they wanted to carry this a bit further you could even have Vince "buy" air time on
Smackdown and attempt to create his own fed.
I'm guessing we get something somewhere in between the two with HHH staying on, but conceding a lot of his power, or that several of the heels
start getting special rules and protected status for them...
Just to put this out there, but that kind of carnage where new guys are getting pushed and the old regime is somewhat handcuffed would definitely fit
into a lot of what Punk has said... It doesn't matter then that he lost his title or got screwed, he was the one that tipped the domino or lit
the fuse on the powder keg (it also wouldn't matter if Vince got back involved with his own NWO faction or whatever- he's just playing his
part in the chaos). This line of thinking would also give us a good reason for Punk to face HHH once more, both with a lot more on the line as Punk
tries to close out that last bit of old school Vince's fair haired favourites.
So maybe this will tank and suck, but I also see a lot of potential that seemlessly fits with the last several months of TV.
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Doug Almighty
Creepy Little Bastard
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quote:
Originally posted by DevilSoprano
That can't be Doug Almighty. If the show sucks it's only because you're not getting massive amounts of CM Punk and Daniel Bryan.
Forget the facts that the show has been horrible for weeks again. It's only cause you're a wanker and want to suck off Punk and Bryan.
Forget the fact that the best parts of wrestling have been Henry, Ziggler, and Cody. If you don't like the show it's cause CM Punk
hasn't brought in Cabana, Black, and the Kings and Daniel Bryan hasn't cashed in his Money in the Bank and squashed Henry yet.
I shouldn't be shocked that people will continue to defend the show but I am. And they continue to go to bullshit reasons why people don't
like the show.
If Bryan isn�t champ before November, I am going to kill myself! And Vince McMahon. Well, I better kill McMahon first actually, else I�ll struggle to
do both.
Ahh, but yeah, some of the defenders baffle me too. Especially when they use BS arguments, like you said, but also because they're effectively
ignoring the evidence. Unless they LIKE lame/lazy stuff, or alternatively, don't really like it, but choose to defend it anyway?! Bizarre.
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Dominator
And I am AWESOME
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quote:
Originally posted by Doug Almighty
If Bryan isn�t champ before November, I am going to kill myself! And Vince McMahon.
He said he's cashing in his briefcase at Wrestlemania. You've got a ways to go, buddy.
quote:
Originally posted by gimmickless
They did everything in their power to keep HHH looking like the only sane man on the floor, and that annoys me more than anything. This was not a
triple; this was a bunt.
Really? I thought HHH looked about as vulnerable as he has in his near two-decade career, just standing there sheepishly while everyone walked out on
him. Mike Chioda cut a strong promo (better than Orton, as Pyro said) on HHH and made very cogent points. HHH was trying to be reasonable and sane,
but since when has that worked ever in WWE? I agree it wasn't a triple, and it might've even been a bunt, but it was a bunt single... it
kept the rally going.
quote:
Originally posted by DevilSoprano
Am I supposed to still be in wait & see mode?
Yes, 'cause it's about what you didn't see. CM Punk's silence/absence during the segment spoke volumes. Remember, this is
the dufus son-in-law. I've been thinking for weeks now that everything, I mean everything, that's gone on since Punk came back to
unify the titles was about getting the McMahons out of power. I think he's suckering Ace along and will fire him as soon as he gets control (or
gets who he wants to be in control). I think he may even be using Stephanie to a certain extent. I'm telling you, it's all very
"24"-ish and, as a fan of that show from its first episode 'til it's last, you have to understand that in a drama like this
there's always another machination, there's always something else going on, there's always something you're not anticipating,
something you'll only see if you're REALLY paying attention to every detail. Which is hard to do if you're only following the show
on message boards, but I digress. Think about this, why do you think Beth was in this scene and sounding all weak and scared? Think it was because
they just wanted one of the girls to speak? One of the Bellas could've done it just as easily.
This angle has challenged wrestling fans to think outside the box when it comes to fantasy booking and what might happen next. I mean, come on, who
saw a "No Confidence Vote Main Event Promo" segment coming this week? And who saw EVERYONE (who was present) walking out on HHH? Even JR, who HHH
just hired back a couple months ago?
And I'm not saying I'd be the one to do it, but if an enterprising OO staffer wanted to start a Facebook group called "Shut Up And
Fight" and use it as a platform to support HHH and drive people to OO, maybe more people could offer opinions and thoughts other than "everything
sucks" or "there was someone else on the show besides CM Punk" or other IWC pabulum. Heck, they might even see such brilliant posts as this:
quote:
Originally posted by Stu
"Complete Afterthoughts" don't main event 4 PPVs in a row, 3 of which are title matches, 2 of which they win. "Complete Afterthoughts"
aren't continuously given exposure and as much mic time as Punk has, even since the angle has cooled off a bit. "Complete Afterthoughts"
aren't booked to look as strong in defeat as Punk was, what with all the general punishment of a triple threat match, in a HIAC, plus going
through a table, plus getting pinned (not made to tap out) due to a lead pipe beating. "Complete Afterthoughts" do not get the company shelling out
for the rights to license theme music like Punk has, or as much merchandise for him as he has. Not being champion or being in another championship
match (yet, since the PPV was only last fucking night) does not make you a "Complete Afterthought". WWE COULD be doing more with Punk, sure, and
they WERE doing more with him not too long ago, but overall, by their standards, this is a push, and he's still in a much better place than he
was six months ago. This is not me saying "wait and see", this is me saying all things considered, Punk should be pretty happy with where he is
right now, because he's been in much worser spots.
Thank you for writing it, Stu, so I don't have to. Would've been much worser for me. ;^)
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Martman
And I am AWESOME
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From now on, I'm referring to Kelly as BITCH RAGE
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mooseheadjack
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quote:
Originally posted by Dominator
Yes, 'cause it's about what you didn't see. CM Punk's silence/absence during the segment spoke volumes. Remember, this is
the dufus son-in-law. I've been thinking for weeks now that everything, I mean everything, that's gone on since Punk came back to
unify the titles was about getting the McMahons out of power. I think he's suckering Ace along and will fire him as soon as he gets control (or
gets who he wants to be in control). I think he may even be using Stephanie to a certain extent. I'm telling you, it's all very
"24"-ish and, as a fan of that show from its first episode 'til it's last, you have to understand that in a drama like this
there's always another machination, there's always something else going on, there's always something you're not anticipating,
something you'll only see if you're REALLY paying attention to every detail. Which is hard to do if you're only following the show
on message boards, but I digress. Think about this, why do you think Beth was in this scene and sounding all weak and scared? Think it was because
they just wanted one of the girls to speak? One of the Bellas could've done it just as easily.
This angle has challenged wrestling fans to think outside the box when it comes to fantasy booking and what might happen next. I mean, come on, who
saw a "No Confidence Vote Main Event Promo" segment coming this week? And who saw EVERYONE (who was present) walking out on HHH? Even JR, who HHH
just hired back a couple months ago?
Man, you are WAY more optimistic about the WWE than I am. I have ZERO faith in them to tell a simple story, let alone something as complex as you are
suggesting. I don't believe they have ANY plan beyond Cena vs. Rock at WM and they are just throwing shit at the wall week after week to see
what sticks.
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- And Moose, seriously, shut the fuck up. - DSop
- Fuck you Moose. The worst part about it is that you are right. I fucking hate when you're right. - Metallikid
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Paddlefoot
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quote:
Originally posted by Doug Almighty
Ahh, but yeah, some of the defenders baffle me too. Especially when they use BS arguments, like you said, but also because they're effectively
ignoring the evidence. Unless they LIKE lame/lazy stuff, or alternatively, don't really like it, but choose to defend it anyway?! Bizarre.
Actually the "defenders" have been more than critical of WWE in the past and will continue to be so in the future. There is no "WWE fanboi" here
giving RAW a 100% passing grade here. In fact, the WWE sk8er boi is more of a mythical beast than all those the Welfare Queens that somehow keep making
like so awful for GOP'ers. It's more like that some of the folks here on OO who, for reasons of their own, are possessed of total hatred
of the WWE product simply can't understand why others aren't. That the whole OO Universe isn't bent towards their particular
viewpoint is confusing to them and it makes them angry. Well, it's all just too fucking bad for them, isn't it? Sometimes in school you
have to sit right next to a gay kid or even of the blacks, so you really have to get used to the fact that life ain't always gonna meeting up to
your own definition of fair.
Just like Barack Obama really isn't the Hitler of all Presidents, last night's show wasn't the Hitler of all RAW's. To say
that last night's show was the worst RAW evah! just isn't a serious position to have. It wasn't and a lot of the complaining going
on right now is just plain silly. Seriously, if WWE programming is so awful (and even a sk8er boi like me has been quite consistent over the last few
years by plainly stating that too much of it actually is) then QUIT FUCKING WATCHING IT ALREADY. It's what most of the TNA detractors appear to
have done with that company, considering that the weekly Impact threads here on OO can't even get ten posts in response anymore. Get back at
Vince and really hurt his feelings by denying him posts!
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PS: sk8er boi, lol I really lurvs me some OO!
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mooseheadjack
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yes yes, quit watching it already. Don't talk about it unless you have something POSITIVE to say!
And why COULDN'T it be the worst episode ever? I am not saying it WAS, but that could certainly be a valid opinion on the show.
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gimmickless
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quote:
Originally posted by gimmickless
They did everything in their power to keep HHH looking like the only sane man on the floor, and that annoys me more than anything. This was not a
triple; this was a bunt.
Really? I thought HHH looked about as vulnerable as he has in his near two-decade career, just standing there sheepishly while everyone walked out on
him. Mike Chioda cut a strong promo (better than Orton, as Pyro said) on HHH and made very cogent points. HHH was trying to be reasonable and sane,
but since when has that worked ever in WWE? I agree it wasn't a triple, and it might've even been a bunt, but it was a bunt single... it
kept the rally going.
Godwin. Warrior. "I'm sorry, pops." Those were more vulnerable moments than last. Did he get the short end of the stick this time? Sure. But
he's been through worse, much worse.
You can stand by your decision that it was good TV. The cameramen walking out was unexpected in a good way, and I'll give it that. I'll
reserve my judgement for a while until the noticeable absences are explained (or not).
And if we're going to be sticking with metaphors, at least it wasn't the flyout that was Katie Vick or Mae Young's hand. This
appears to be played safe without a good reason. Thus, a bunt.
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