promoter2003
The Rowdy One 
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I have to agree about the Punk stuff getting rushed(and the HHH COO storyline at the moment) especially with that rumor for MSG and Survivor Series.
Punk should be returning around this time full time and proclaiming to be the real champion. Even the storyline with HHH right now it would have been
great to see Punk return now to create even more chaos.
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atothej
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| posted on 10-7-2011 at 08:52 PM |
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I've been going through this thread and wondering why nobody has noted that Punk himself started declining in his mic work as the story
progressed. They gave Punk every opportunity to at least carry the storyline with his mic work (the same mic work, incidentally, that made this the
hottest story in wrestling) and he showed real rapid declines. Given the free reign he was given early in the storyline, I'm not sure that the
decline can be attributed to the writers.
I'm as dissatisfied as many on the boards that he Cena/Punk story did not maintain its high level, but I'm also surprised that nobody has
put some share of the blame on Punk.
[Edited on 10-7-2011 by atothej]
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theflammablemanimal
The Immortal One 
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| posted on 10-7-2011 at 09:10 PM |
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Maybe it declined because he no longer had a story that made sense. Everything he was saying about Vince made sense. Everything he said about Nash
made sense. Once HHH got involved in the match, he suddenly had to start acting out of character.and building a match out of nothing. He had nothing
logical to say, so his promos suffered.
The first and only undisputed OO draft champion of the world
Get the pistons pumping and let the pigeons loose on my yambag
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atothej
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| posted on 10-7-2011 at 09:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
Maybe it declined because he no longer had a story that made sense. Everything he was saying about Vince made sense. Everything he said about Nash
made sense. Once HHH got involved in the match, he suddenly had to start acting out of character.and building a match out of nothing. He had nothing
logical to say, so his promos suffered.
Perhaps, but even his delivery and connection with the crowd seemed forced. He didn't seem as comfortable and instead started relying on just
being forced-snarky and saying "pipe bomb" a bunch. The story still makes sense: he got screwed out of the title after coming back because he tells
it like it is, making him dangerous. He could've hit those notes effectively, but he seemed to drop off rapidly.
Your momma's so fat, Dave Meltzer gave her struggling to put her jeans on in the morning five stars. -- FF, destroying Jeb, his momma, and
Meltzer in one fell swoop.
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williamssl
Steers and Queers 
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| posted on 10-7-2011 at 10:30 PM |
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No no no no no. Punk can do no wrong. WWE can.
If that's not the conclusion you're coming to, you're watching it wrong.
Don't Mess With Texas
SNICKERS
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Paddlefoot
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| posted on 10-7-2011 at 10:40 PM |
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^
When I was out earlier today the radio in the car was playing Avril Lavigne's sk8er boi. It was real good.
GW Bush read Camus because "everyone has to read a book written by a killer whale" - General JC Christian
I downloaded the soundtrack to "Song of the South," and it's 45 minutes of whipcracks, women pleading "please, no," and people screaming.
- the esteemed Dr. Mobute
When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? - John Maynard Keynes
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Flash
Showstopper
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| posted on 10-7-2011 at 11:12 PM |
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I think the problem with Punk is that he's stopped showing you how edgy he is, and has just settled for telling us. Best advice I ever got about
how to dick over someone at a party is to tell them how funny they are in front of other people, because then they'll stop being funny and start
subconciously thinking about trying to be funny. So in a lot of ways I wonder what happens to a CM Punk who's spent a lifetime on the outside
looking in, and now suddenly finds himself hampered by his own success?
I think the whole "Pipe bomb" speech is the one that has done him in because he put a lable on himself, and unfortunately its also had the effect of
allowing the WWE to do the same... I cringe whenever I hear the announce team constantly refer to his mic time as a potential pipe bomb, or that
he's now billed as the controversial CM Punk, which has about the same affect as me telling you each and every week how cool I am... If
I'm cool, I shouldn't have to keep reminding you.
Finally, and as others have stated, I don't think he's had as much to do these last few weeks, and I think that's partly a show
structuring problem;
HHH has business with Punk and the whole show - so unless we want HHH in every single segment (I like the guy and even I'll admit they've
been letting him dominate the show a little too much) they have to wind up combining the Punk/HHH stuff with the rest of the show, or at least
constantly find ways to segue from one into the other so instead of Punk getting a chance to dominate a spot, he's almost structurally
handcuffed into playing second fiddle so that the rest of the show can move along.
I'm hoping that going forward HHH opts to fire everyone who walked out, or at least take a hard line against them, as otherwise I think they did
Punk a disservice in putting HHH over him when the whole COO title was on the line (that could have been used later after the walk out) - A hardline
HHH dealing with everyone else will also hopefully allo Punk to at least temporarily seperate himself from the HHH story at least untnil WM starts
winding up, and allow him to do some one on one stuff... be it revenge on Nash, feuding with a returning Miz and Truth for their attacks on him, or
even going to a one on one with ADR for the title while Cena plays with Rock at Survivor Series.
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denverpunk
Showstopper 
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| posted on 10-8-2011 at 02:40 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Flash
Best advice I ever got about how to dick over someone at a party is to tell them how funny they are in front of other people, because then
they'll stop being funny and start subconciously thinking about trying to be funny.
Don't tell that to the wrong guy!
http://youtu.be/o_ff46b58Hk (a little NSFW)
[Edited on 10-8-2011 by denverpunk]
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Red Irts
Rediculous
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| posted on 10-8-2011 at 03:12 PM |
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Noticeable that WWE are doing their best to establish Cena, Punk, Sheamus and Orton aren't part of Walkout Inc. There's your Survivor
Series team with Rock to be added.
(Del Rio, Miz, Truth, Christian and Rhodes in opposition)
The world saw the Ultimate Warrior talking to his hand, what they didn't realise is the hand didn't have a clue what it had just heard.
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