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posted on 3-19-2016 at 12:05 AM
Breaking News: Jury sides with Hogan, awards him $115 million. He had been seeking $100 million. He'll be lucky to see much of that, and if he
does, it'll be awhile. This may open the door for him to return to the E at some point in the future, though.
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posted on 3-19-2016 at 12:36 AM
quote:Originally posted by Katie Vick killer
Aw, shucks. I'm just glad someone noticed!
What exactly were you trying too imply, kind sir?
RE~RAILING!
Rumors regarding the potential rift within the McMahon clan keep sprouting up online and how this potential shift in dynamics backstage might be
having adverse effects on the promoting of NXT's Takeover: Dallas special. This past Monday night there was absolutely no mention of the special
taking place the Friday before Wrestlemania, on April 1st.
According to Dave Meltzer: While many backstage are said to be upset by the glaring omission on Monday night. Especially considering the positive
reactions to the NXT Tag Title match on Roadblock this past Saturday. Others are saying this is part of a conspiracy involving Kevin Dunn to undermine
the success of NXT and by proxy that of its talent and its figurehead Triple H. It should also be noted that there apparently is no love lost between
Triple H and Dunn, and that it's believed by many that Dunn's status with the company would probably come into question if/when Triple H
and Stephanie take control of the company.
I don't know, this all just seems way too juicy and perhaps a little too convenient, doesn't it? I imagine that there is definitely
potential for Vince to have some hard feelings about how NXT is received compared to the main roster of shows. Those misgivings could only be
magnified when taking into consideration the terrible string of injuries, booking miscalculations and general unrest of their viewers leading into
Wrestlemania this year. But to purposely downplay one of, if not maybe their only, surefire thing going? That's highly suspect.
But then again, despite their attempts to prove otherwise, this is still a carny business no matter how many clean coats of paint they try to cover it
up with. Common sense rarely plays a factor, at least maybe from our perspective, in the daily operations of WWE. What I'm wondering is if
there's anybody else reading this that thinks maybe this whole backstage "McMachinations" thing that's going on right now isn't
just part of the new way to work the s/marks?
Is it beyond the realm of possibility that this is just a meta-work?
[Edited on 3/18/2016 by CM Crunk]
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posted on 3-19-2016 at 01:04 AM
quote:Originally posted by CM Crunk
Is it beyond the realm of possibility that this is just a meta-work?
[Edited on 3/18/2016 by CM Crunk]
Honestly, I would say it isn't beyond the realm of possibility. In the age of the "WWE Universers"
who visit the wwe.com, and the bleacher report, and the other "big media" sites that now deign to cover Pro Wrasslin with the semi-seriousness it
deserves... Well,
Q: Who is there to "work", and how are you gonna work 'em?
A: The people who visit the aforementioned websites, and possibly exactly like this.
Then those people tell their friend Mark about the "internet rumors", and suddenly you have a crowd full of people drinking the kool-aid.
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posted on 3-19-2016 at 06:08 AM
Since Sting's retirement has been in the rumor section, I will put this here....
We saw The Man Called Sting tonight at the BTW event in Altoona Pa. He looked damn good and was in great form, at least on the mic. I wish I could
have talked to him, but the line was huge and it was $75 for a autograph and photo, and I just didn't have that kind of bread. He had Lex Luger
along as well, who never appeared ringside, but was looking really frail and in a wheelchair. I watched as he signed and he could barely hold the pen.
But Sting came to the ring and talked, and never mentioned retiring or his neck problem. Basically he said it was good to be in Altoona, told the
history of wrestling at the Jaffa Shrine, and how BTW Wrestling is the best! Then he was gone...not be seen the rest of the night. (click to
enlarge)
Of the "name" wrestlers, Gangrel wrestled Billy Gunn, Homicide took on BTW champ Flex Armstrong, and the ECW gang of Dreamer, Raven, and Sandman
wrestled, but Raven got in the ring once, only did his hands outstretched thing, and then walked out. Oh...and Billy Gunn was the only guy who
wrestled without a shirt on. Still a fun 3 hour night with some great indie talent, well worth the $20 admission. If you ever get a chance to take in
a BTW (Big Time Wrestling) show, do it!
Oh...and the two El Diablo's were together again! It's been a few years, but we fondly remembered the old days and how wearing the mask
had been an adventure! Raven added the word balloon and "Dreamer Sux" to the picture! (click to enlarge)
...edited to add, the picture I'm holding is of Tommy as "El Diablo" wrestling my buddy Dr. Johnny Wildside with Nurse Vanessa Feelgood from
1992. A great story of the time is how I worked ring crew and took Tommy's bag one night but didn't realize he had the mask hanging out,
so all these kids thought I was El Diablo, and Tommy told me to just go sign their programs, because who would really give a shit.
[Edited on 3-19-2016 by G-Spot]
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posted on 3-19-2016 at 03:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by Katie Vick killer
For $75 I hope he was wearing his facepaint!
Nope. Just his sunglasses.
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posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:28 AM
quote:Originally posted by CM Crunk
Is it beyond the realm of possibility that this is just a meta-work?
No. The thing that is obviously, transparently true is not beyond the realm of possibility.
This is IWC catnip, intentionally leaked to try and get places like This Very Forum a-riled up about in-story McMahon Family Drama. It's dumb
and it should feel dumb.
This is Shane McMahon showing up to do his family a solid, scratch his performer itch, and add some fresh insight to the product. StepHHH are the
gestalt heir apparent for better or worse. That's not gonna change because they're coming up on a shittier-than-expected 'Mania,
especially when the Network is getting on its feet and HHH's brainchild is doing gangbusters (regardless of how much HHHimself micromanages it
-- creators get credit for their creations).
The MOST that's happening is maybe Steph's insecure ass is being a bit huffy and feeling threatened. Because she is insecure.
Nothing to actually see here, people. Move along. Move along.
[Edited on 3-20-2016 by Foxcalibur]
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posted on 3-20-2016 at 07:30 PM
Sorry about that
[Edited on 3-20-2016 by coxito]
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posted on 3-20-2016 at 07:57 PM
Man alive. I dunno if Shane McMahon has the heel gene, but I sure seem to. I must get one of these a month. Could it be the problem really IS me?
Maybe my exaggerated smug know-it-allishness isn't as obvious a joke as I seem to think it is? That not all wrestling fans are super good at
recognizing a work when they see it. That the times when I break character and act reasonable don't make it clear I'm just being silly?
Naaaaaaaaaaaaah, it's definitely everyone else. Stay the course! First star on the left, etc, etc.
Anywho, I'm so glad you like my writing!
And no, I don't think my analysis is better than everyone else's, but I think I'm safely in the top 20% or so. I'm generally
more pessimistic about WWE's "main" product and don't give it the credit it's due, while I watch NXT with ruby shades, despite its
quality dipping a bit with its lead booker gone. I also have pretty severe blind-spots for the non-WWE scene, which got me in trouble early on when I
popped off about indies teaching "bad habits." But in terms of narrative structure and character development, I'm pretty rad.
---
Anywho, here's my stating my case in a less exaggerated voice:
This rumor dropped literally the day after Shane showed up. It is full of many of the hot-buttons that get the IWC revved up: a chance to dethrone
StepHHH, Vince acting erratic and crazy, the popular (IMO because absent) Shane McMahon, possible backstage shakeups. No, I have no more sources than
anyone else here, but this one stinks to high heaven, especially when WWE seems pretty stressed about 'Mania underperforming and wants to
generate buzz.
Very little evidence points to Steph or especially Hunter being in the doghouse. Whether or not HHH micromanages NXT, it's highly successful,
and it was in large part his idea. When an executive pilots a successful program, he is associated positively with it for life, even if it fails once
his hands are off it. Any time I hear Vince and Hunter talk about their relationship, it's clear Trips is the musclebound son Vinnie Mac always
wanted.
And if I recall correctly, the Network is getting on its feet and despite its shitty product, WWE's financials are in decent shape. I can see
Shane being brought in to add a bit of creative spice, but not to wholly supplant the heirs apparent when the kingdom isn't in any peril.
If this isn't an intentional leak from WWE to the dirt-sheets and webosphere, it is the dirt-sheets and webosphere drumming up clicks. Maybe
I'm wrong. This story has so much momentum, it's possible i'm just tinfoil-hatting it here.
But my gut and my head tells me this is a meta-work. And like the wrestling fans we are, we enjoy getting swept up in it, and get mad when someone
points out it's not real. But until there's a blowup and one of the parties leaves WWE in a huff, I will sit here with my precious,
precious grain of salt, complete dumbass that i am.
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posted on 3-20-2016 at 09:12 PM
POOSTERS. Forced capitalization FTW! Luv ya, Foxy.
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posted on 3-20-2016 at 10:03 PM
Seriously, I love that you took the time to meme me up.
[Edited on 3-20-2016 by Foxcalibur]
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posted on 3-20-2016 at 10:24 PM
Oh man, how awesome would it be if there was a power struggle in WWE? The creatively lazy bastards finally having a reason to try harder and as
there's only so much space on the top.
So it seems like things are a set for the IC Title to be a multiman match and Ryback vs Kalisto as a single match. Yeah, you'd think things
would be the other way around. I really hope it's not because Ryback is going to squash Kalisto.
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posted on 3-20-2016 at 10:53 PM
quote:Originally posted by First 9
Oh man, how awesome would it be if there was a power struggle in WWE? The creatively lazy bastards finally having a reason to try harder and as
there's only so much space on the top.
So it seems like things are a set for the IC Title to be a multiman match and Ryback vs Kalisto as a single match. Yeah, you'd think things
would be the other way around. I really hope it's not because Ryback is going to squash Kalisto.
I don't know about squashing, but it does allow WWE to book a shorter match on the card. Whether he's defending in singles or multi-man,
Kevin Owens needs some time for his match. Kalisto only needs it for multi-man.
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posted on 3-20-2016 at 11:19 PM
It is one of the more complete cards they've had in a while isn't it? Last year we had both midcard Titles defended in meaningful matches
for the first time in years, this year it's the all the Titles.
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posted on 3-21-2016 at 12:38 AM
I can't see any of this being a reflection of a real upper management fight at WWE. For all the frustration of dealing with Vince & Dunn on a
daily basis StepHHH still seem to get their way enough. They been prominently featured in endless Authority storylines going back what seems to be at
least five years. The revitalized Diva scene occurred with them. Yeah, it happened in large part because AJ Lee called Steph out about it on Twitter
but at the same time it wouldn't have happened at all without Steph pushing it too. DB and CM Punk, despite what the real haters think, held
huge positions in the spotlight for months and years on end. If is had all been up to Vince & Dunn none of that would have happened at all. Instead of
Pipebomb and Yes Movement it would have been "know what the fans will like? a lot more Orton, Big Show, and Sheamus gunning for the title!".
Can't even assume that what happens on the shows translates into behind the scenes tension. Whatever happens in those weekly production meetings
probably has a lot of yelling and fighting in the boardroom going on. If they're like any other corporation though every one in the meeting
comes out of it on the same page, even if they want to kill each other behind closed doors. StepHHH can afford to play a long-game anyway.
Vince's retirement is inevitable someday. When the papers are signed Dunn's employment will be terminated in the space of a few minutes.
New people in critical positions, maybe even the permanent return of the likes of Shane or JR, and a whole new world opens up. No one in their right
minds, even if dealing with a nut like Vince can get to be too much some days, is going to give up that kind of opportunity when it's just a
matter of time.
* terrific list of historical future endeavourings by WWF/WWE over the years. Includes the bullshit ones, the much-deserved ones, and wacky as hell
ones.
* can't recommend this series of interview clips with Jake The Snake highly enough. The guy is truly humble, well spoken, and doesn't shit
over anyone that doesn't deserve it. Apparently his only real lifelong heat is with Honky Tonk Man, not over the incident where Honky hit him
with the guitar and gave him a legit bad neck injury, but over something that Jake won't elaborate on.
[Edited on 3/21/2016 by Paddlefoot]
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posted on 3-21-2016 at 02:16 AM
The McMahon family drama, and the rumoured backstage discord is a bit funny for a few reasons....
*First and foremost, it's not like Shane was lost in the wilderness, or excommunicated from the WWE.... he's Vince's son,
Stephanie's brother, and as such I'm sure he's been talking to them for the past several years, even if it's just over family
brunch or what have you. Yeah, he's had his own thing going on for a while now, but even his wife worked for the WWE- you don't get much
more family business than the WWE.
*A few pages back I posted a link to some WWE board of directors stuff, and it included some salary info.... as of that posting at least, Shane is
just down as a performer and nothing else.
*Shane chose to leave; at the time it was rumoured that it was because he didn't like the direction of the company and he saw the writing on the
wall of StepHHH's event ascension once Vince stepped down.... While he has maybe changed his mind and wants to still be involved, the reality is
that he dumped his stock for a nice chunk of change, StepHHH has been entrenched as the heir apparent more so than when he left, and if he came back
to get in line to run things on paper from an ownership/voting power standpoint he'd be pretty far down the list. That's not to say him
being Vince's son couldn't see him still come into a tidy pile of the big stock again, but that's not where we are right now.
*The whole backstage discord thing is.... well I don't know what to call it, but it's important to note that this is all coming several
rungs removed from the primaries involved in this discord, and like I said above, we're dealing with family here where the 1001 times they do
agree throughout the day goes unnoticed because it isn't salacious enough. I mean it's like this.... My company is almost a 2 billion
dollar company, and there is zero chance that our president is going to come bitching to me, a guy a dozen or more rungs down from her on the
corporate ladder, about her VP's and the board of director.... I might happen to find myself riding an elevator with her while she's on
her cell, or with one of the VP's, but all I'd hear then is out of context snippets that do not a complete picture make.
*Vince cuts the cheques, and owns the business.... what he says goes, and everyone knows this ie there is ultimately no war within the WWE.
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posted on 3-21-2016 at 08:44 AM
The problem Shane & Steph had, is that no matter how big a corporation like WWE is, you can still only have 1 person at the top, and you can only
really properly groom a small number of people for that top job from within. So if due to her relationship with HHH, the decision was to train
Stephanie from
Within, it'd make sense for Shane to step away.
Shane's interests lied more in the digital media / IT side of things, so he went and worked with some massive companies in that area, and for
all we know, his work with You In Demand may have paved the way for the WWE Networks very existence.
I don't buy the "tension" for 1 minute. Everything they've done makes sense from personal and business points of view... But of course
that doesn't make you click an extra 5 links a day now, does it.
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posted on 3-21-2016 at 12:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by First 9
It is one of the more complete cards they've had in a while isn't it? Last year we had both midcard Titles defended in meaningful matches
for the first time in years, this year it's the all the Titles.
If that happens, it'll be the first time all the titles were defended on the card since Wrestlemania 19. And that's only if you count
pre-show matches, as the World Tag Team Titles match was on Heat. If you don't, you have to go all the way back to Wrestlemania 14.
CCharger
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posted on 3-21-2016 at 02:02 PM
I don't know if the McMahon drama is real but I would like to point out one thing. From the dirt sheets, it sounds like it is more of a rift
between Vince/Kevin Dunn and StepHHH. The return of Shane is not really related except. Both the lack of promotion for NXT: Takeover Dallas and the
massive re-writes of the Mania card are both being blamed for that.
The point is that rather than an issue between Shane and StepHHH for control of the company. It would appear to be Bucky the Beaver getting in
Vince's ear and pissing off StepHHH. Shane's return is coincidental and irrelevant.
ETA: As has been reported in the TNA thread and elsewhere, both Bobby Roode and Eric Young were granted their releases and are now free agents.
Meltzer is reporting that both departures are WWE-related and that we could see both of them in NXT soon.
[Edited on 3-21-2016 by CCharger]
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posted on 3-21-2016 at 05:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by merc
Whew, I'd like to thank you all for MOFO HUGE LAUGHS! (Except the Neville info ).
Time to remember that what you see on TV is FAKE. Made the fuck up, by fairly poor writers conveying direction from some group of leaders who may or
my not be visionary. To theorize on power structure based off of the televised program is awesomely funny. Thank you all!
I'd guess, this storyline provides opportunity for Stephen & HHH to learn other parts of what has become a major business, whilst letting number
one son reacquaint himself with production.
Sorry for any buzz kill. Please resume
This has been a gift that keeps on giving. 😂😂😂
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posted on 3-21-2016 at 07:51 PM
* new clip from upcoming WWE Studios epic
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posted on 3-21-2016 at 08:21 PM
It's surprising that it took them this long to make a movie based in the WWE using WWE stars as not-WWE stars. Considering how bad WWE has been
getting over the past few years, maybe this is the point where they finally jump the shark as a company?
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